Marijuana

The 90% THC Candy Bar and Other Prohibitionist Fantasies

Nebraska sheriff says rising pot potency shows the folly of legalization.

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Scotts Bluff County Sheriff's Office

In an op-ed piece published last week, Scotts Bluff County, Nebraska, Sheriff Mark Overman explains why he joined a lawsuit seeking to reverse marijuana legalization in neighboring Colorado. "Almost all of the marijuana that we see originates in Colorado," he writes. "The potency has increased dramatically, and so has the price."

Although drug warriors usually cite price increases as evidence that they are succeeding, Overman apparently sees more-expensive marijuana as cause for concern, presumably because it's an indicator of potency. He says "the smoking variety" of Colorado marijuana "commonly tests over 20 percent." That's misleading, since such super-strong strains remain the exception rather than the rule. Medicine Man, one of Denver's leading dispensaries, currently offers 31 kinds of buds, only three of which have THC content of 20 percent or more. The rest range from 8 percent to 17 percent. 

Overman adds that "'edibles,' in the form of candy, baked goods, and drinks, have [THC] levels as high as 90 percent." It is hard to see how that could possibly be true. A lollipop or soda that was 90 percent THC would not be a lollipop or soda; it would be THC mixed with some sugar. Furthermore, Colorado's regulations limit edibles to no more than 100 milligrams of THC per package. A legal edible that was 90 percent THC therefore would weigh no more than 111 milligrams, or 0.004 ounce. That's a pretty tiny candy bar.

Possibly Overman is thinking of the concentrates that are mixed into edibles. But his confusion raises the question: Why should we care about these numbers? Consumers generally consider higher THC content an improvement, although clearly there are limits. Otherwise, Medicine Man would sell nothing but highly potent strains such as Chem 4 and Girl Scout Cookies. For smokers, higher potency means less exposure to combustion products to achieve the same effect—a health advantage. When it comes to edibles, businesses that had catered mainly to patients and other heavy users have been adjusting to serve occasional recreational consumers who prefer lower doses. They must be doing something right, because their products dominate the recreational market in Colorado.

That market clearly offends Overman, who nevertheless says he agrees with his state's policy of treating marijuana possession as a civil infraction rather than a crime. But if people who consume cannabis should not be treated as criminals, why should people who merely help them do so? The moral logic of decriminalization eventually leads to legalization, including all the supposed horrors of mixing cannabis with capitalism.

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  1. and so has the price.

    Clearly the solution to high-priced weed is an all out ban.

  2. Sheriff Mark Overman explains why he joined a lawsuit seeking to reverse marijuana legalization in neighboring Colorado

    Did he tell the truth, that it’s because he’s a douchebag and luddite?

  3. That’s misleading, since such super-strong strains remain the exception rather than the rule. Medicine Man, one of Denver’s leading dispensaries, currently offers 31 kinds of buds, only three of which have THC content of 20 percent or more. The rest range from 8 percent to 17 percent.

    You forget that in Nebraska, pot is still illegal and hence the people smuggling have a high incentive to buy smaller quantities of highly potent marijuana. I bet he is right.

    1. True. Pot charges are based on the weight of the pot, not the potency. To the left, Nebraska wrote a stupid law and now wants to cry until Colorado fixes it.

    2. I’m no drug kingpin, but it seems the ideal solution would be to buy the cheapest stuff possible and sell it for the most amount possible on the black market. If it’s illegal, then you can demand a premium for even low quality stuff so why would I risk high dollars for medium return vs low dollars for high return?

      There is the risk of being caught, but my guess is that’s actually quite minimal for the person doing the smuggling/top tier of distribution.

      I guess you could go as a premium distributor, but then every time one of your low level dealers is busted you are out more cash, not to mention you might price yourself out of the market for most users.

      1. A happy customer is a return customer and one likely to recommend you. Word of mouth is the only marketing and branding available in black markets.

        1. yes, but in a black market where even the good stuff is shit, it’s all good stuff.

          “When we all smoke mexican dirt weed (parlance of my time in Houston in the 90s) none of use do…” Syndrome said (something like) that.

        2. also, way more people have less money than more money. I’d go the walmart route every single time.

  4. A legal edible that was 90 percent THC therefore would weigh no more than 111 milligrams, or 0.004 ounce.

    Maureen Dowd inhaled 30 of them. Literally.

    1. She still hasn’t recovered. Have you read any of her columns since that episode?

      *shudder*

      1. Retroactive pot! That’s some strong shit, man!

    2. I wonder what pure THC tastes like. I’m assuming it’s gross. How horrible would 90% thc foodstuff be?!

      1. Dab (or wax) is 99% pure, so you could find out. There’s probably nothing left to taste after it’s been purified with butane.

        Extract into alcohol tastes pretty bad, extremely bitter and grassy.

        1. Yeah it does. I had some of my THC/grain alcohol extract last night and it tasted pretty nasty even mixed into a soda.

          1. yeah, I wonder, but not curious enough to try myself. I’ll take your word for it.

        2. you mean purged not purified with butane lol but its safer to make it with dry ice or pressurized CO2

      2. My theory is that cannabis-goodies focusing on sweets is a mistake. Cannabis is not a flavor which marries well with sweets, unless you are very careful and very good. (I once made a peanut butter frosting that would knock your socks off and you could eat it with a spoon. This is, IME, not typical results.)

        It works rather well in savory goods, however. Wild rice pilaf with a pepper cheese sauce. Beef tips in gravy. Garlic-rosemary mashed potatoes. The flavor of cannabis is not offensively predominant, because it blends well with savory tastes.

        1. I bought a magic butter maker! only way to go…

  5. I’ve actually been to Scott’s Bluff. It’s where fun goes to die.

    1. It’s where fun goes to die.

      I thought this was Warty’s dungeon, no?

      1. It’s where fun goes to die.

        I thought this was Warty’s dungeon, no?

        No the word you’re looking for is ‘victims’, that’s where victims go to die.

      2. No, Warty’s Dungeon is where you realize that fun has no meaning.

        1. No, it’s where you realize Warty’s idea of “fun” is pretty much diametrically opposed to your idea of “fun”.

          1. Warty gives you an experience beyond limits… pain and pleasure, indivisible.

            1. Some call him demon, others – angel.

      3. I saw Warty there. He was at the Library (local strip joint). He was with the other corn-fed beasts of the field that were glaring at us like we were fresh pork chops ready to be glazed and served.

  6. Never let facts get in the way of a good fear-mongerin’.

  7. Nebraska sheriff says rising pot potency shows the folly of legalization.
    .
    Almanian says rising incidence of police killing citizens shows the folly of having a police state.
    .
    Two can play that game, fuckface.

    1. Almanian refers to self in third person and forgets the ! at the end of his name.

      That makes me wonder if I needn’t figure out how to pronounce it after all…

  8. DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN

    1. Last time I did that I had to go door-to-door to tell everyone I was a pederast.

      1. Just like every Christmas. You should really just throw that Santa suit out, Hugh. All it does is get you in trouble.

        1. Well to be fair it’s only half a Santa suit.

          1. eeewwww.

          2. “You want to sit on Santa’s lap little girl? And your mom too?”

  9. Although drug warriors usually cite price increases as evidence that they are succeeding, Overman apparently sees more-expensive marijuana as cause for concern, presumably because it’s an indicator of potency.

    No it’s because in typical scumbag fashion, he wants to attack the profit motive. You see high prices imply that there are fat cat marijuana growers stealing money from poor addicts. He wants to use envy, which the public has a weak spot for, to attack legal marijuana.

  10. Any good news, anywhere in the world today?

    1. The weather is nice

      1. Nearly 80 here in Iowa today, but it will be back to normal tomorrow.

      2. You think Global Warming is good news?!!!

    2. Activists Win First Round against Big Brother in Paraguay:
      Legislators Repeal Mass Surveillance Bill Evoking Dictatorship-Era Snitches

      http://blog.panampost.com/dani…..-paraguay/

    3. Yeah, they’re suspiciously, coincidentally reforming divorce law in Florida.

  11. OT: Welcome to “Libertarian Island”: How these One Percenters are creating a dystopian nightmare

    The most damning evidence against the myth of self regulation may very well be history. Before government regulatory agencies like the FDA came around, the safety of workers and consumers were both constantly at stake, as muckrakers like Upton Sinclair described so vividly. More recently, the lack of regulation in the financial industry, particularly in derivatives, contributed to one of the worst economic crises in history, and hurt many people in the process.

    http://www.salon.com/2015/03/1…..nightmare/

    1. from the comments:

      In a era where the nation state is not keeping up with advancements of humanity, wouldn’t it be better if we had thousands of localized governments, each being responsive to their citizens, rather than trying to force one system on everyone?

      Andy W j
      @RandolphH
      Tried that

      Look at Renaissance Italy for that kind of arrangement

      Do these people realize what they’re saying? Renaissance Italy had the fucking Renaissance! But I guess if you hate property rights, capitalism, secularism, moral philosophy and decentralized power as an approach to prosperity, you’d look at the success of the Renaissance as somewhat of a failure. Again further proof of why we can’t simply co-exist with these people….

      1. But Florentine invented banking! GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

        No, we cannot coexist with these ‘people’. They are too good at getting into and taking control of non-dynamic organizations (the ones that aren’t destroyed in a free market when they get rotten).

        1. the only solution is to ron swanson the shit out of them, then.

          1. I like to piss them off with sometimes highly inflammatory FB posts. See, FB is good for something.

            1. We must agree to disagree.

              I’m the ninja approach. I don’t engage until it’s time to take them down.

              1. Off of FB, we take the exact same approach.

    2. Upton Sinclair was a pink-stinko commie bastard. Also, his books are FICTION.

      1. I should probably just Google it, but who was Upton Sinclair?

        1. a pink-stinko commie bastard. he also wrote “the jungle” which was a fictional novel that people think is a work of journalism.

        2. Boring older brother of the much cooler Downtown Sinclair.

          1. No, Downton Sinclair.

            He invented the abbey.

        3. He was the 19th century’s Robert Reich.

    3. That’s on topic a few articles ago.

      1. I haven’t been around much, for which I apologize. Link?

        1. Never mind found it. Point to Welch for the ‘stated fear’ and ‘more plausible fear’.

    4. Historical illiteracy is catastrophically pervasive nowadays. Franklin Roosevelt saved the world from a permanent economic dystopia, apparently, and Vladimir Lenin wasn’t such a bad guy. And guns murder people in the depths of the dark, nighttime alleyways of our cities (sentience is a characteristic unique to firearms).

      These retards can’t tell their assholes from holes in the ground, and their ramblings are the same unbelievably moronic bullshit the majority of the human race buys into wholesale on a daily fucking basis. Reading Salon is akin to marinating your brain in hydrochloric acid.

      1. I don’t think historical illiteracy is more pervasive nowadays than in the past, it’s just on greater display. The i-net makes it easier for progs to circlejerk to their own lies. If anything, lies get fixed faster nowadays ie Rolling Stone’s rape ‘story’.

        1. Today’s progressive brand of retardation is somehow especially potent. It stings at the soul.

      2. An LTR with Jeffrey Dahmer.

    5. I can no longer read Salon.

      The average salonista wants subsidized rent and foodstamps so they can pay inflated prices for iCrap to watch hipster movies from Netflix via a “neutralized” Internet.

      They are so totally divorced from reality, that they are dangerous.

  12. I can’t WAAAAAAAIIIIT until the FDA gets its mitts on marijuana edibles…

  13. he should run for the legislature. then he wouldn’t be stealing tax dollars meant to pay for enforcement.

    1. Stealing tax dollars? For it to be true theft, you have to have some claim of ownership of the thing which you were deprived of. Which the legislature that steals all it has, does not have.

  14. What the fuck? Did his mom eat uranium while she was pregnant? How can that thing even form words?

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