Tonight on The Independents: Millennials Abandon Dems, Suderman-Computerman on Obamacare, President John eBolton on "chickenshit," Julian Sanchez on the White House Cyber Attack, and a New Enemy of Freedom That Rhymes With "Yost off 'is"
Tonight's episode of The Independents (Fox Business Network, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT, with re-airs three hours later) starts with a lively discussion about the flagging war on ISIS, featuring Party Panelists John Bolton (former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations) and Joe DeVito (comedian). The duo will also discuss Chickenshitgate, and the various Ebola-quarantine nonsenses being debated.
There's a big-deal new Harvard poll showing that likely Millennial voters are more likely to vote in the midterms for Republicans than Democrats (!); we'll discuss. Beloved Reason Senior Editor Peter Suderman will assess what a GOP victory in the Senate might mean for Obamacare. Cato Institute scholar and former Reasoner Julian Sanchez will analyze the cyber attack against the White House. And we'll name our weekly Enemy of Freedom. Hint: J.D. Tuccille's not a big fan of it.
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What is Tuccille a fan of?
Deep dish?
Pasta, and people keeping their mouths shut. Just a guess.
Snark?
Gluten free
Doctors?
Ass sex? Pot? Mexicans?
Wait, that's us.
Millenials?
Mafia libertarianism.
He is a glutam free, organic vegan deep dish fan if I have ever seen one
Artisans cheese, of course
Artisinal *
ArtisANAL
Fuck my phone!
Concrete galoshes?
Offers you can't refuse?
Flaming boogers?
Giants up 2 after 2. Hell yes.
Not so fast 2-1
Tied.
Dammit! This will be a nailbiter.
Two good teams; I'm afraid the Giants are one reliever or one bat shy of the trophy.
Giants fan? Die in a fire, bitch.
Piss off shitball.
Also, do not die in a fire but remember that you are fat.
Can you see your dong in all that fog?
The Giants will prevail. Mark my word doybird.
And it ain't that foggy tonite. I see my ding just fine.
I'm sure you've been a fan your whole life.
Just started. Giants win. Do not die by any painful means.
Ohio state trooper coercing sex and taking pix.
http://www.nbc4i.com/story/271.....ng-charges
Of Ohioans? Yuck.
Dammit, none of the pics are there!
That's what Internal Affairs said.
Columbus has a cop school and this shit hole is bursting with cop thugs... literally a volcano of the worst cop fucks ever. These slimey bastards serve at a lot of the restaurants around the west of Columbus and they make for fuckin jacked up servers....
Oddly.. Columbus ohio is the 7th smartest city in "Murica...
I thought it was in the world?
STOP UNDERTIPPING! BANG BANG
do NOT make me love your fuckin GKC bootay...
This is why you NEVER speed in Ohio.
"John eBolton"? Nice.
INDEPENDENTS CONVOKE!
Convoke is worse than muster.
Wait till Friday.
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/19896/
Prog indoctrination apparently is having an effect. College student increasingly support post birth abortion.
Ahem...Riiiiiight.
Two is a trend.
Depends on how quick it went from one.
RTFA. It lists more than two examples
Yeah, I read it. I must have missed the part that actually talked about numbers or methodology.
I am skeptical for two reasons.
1. I have a hard time believing it because it is so outrageous.
2. The sources there are all pro-lifers. I need to see the supporters say it themselves and I need to see polls showing increasing support beyond just fringe loonies.
I should add that I know in principle that nothing is over the top for progs so if solid evidence were produced I would not be surprised.
Well when they asked people last year they found 10 nutjobs to answer yes. This year the found 11.
Peter singer supports it and is tenured at Princeton so it's not like it's unheard of
Peter Singer is also a fucking sociopath who wraps his psychosis in pseudo-academic jargon. What's the number of people who have actually been influenced by Singer's arguments? Are there more than 12 of them and do they exist outside of academia?
College student increasingly support post birth abortion.
I agree. When can we get them to start volunteering for there post birth abortions? They're clearly not going to get productive jobs with gender study degrees. No revenue? Abort!
Exactly. I was going to say they should start with themselves.
""While the number of students who believe it is OK with killing children after birth is growing, the number of students who accept that life beings at conception is also growing, and that is growing at a larger and faster rate than those who accept infanticide," [prolife activist Kristina] Garza said."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Yeah, thank God the people 'reporting this' are such impartial observers who would have no reason to lie in order to advance a narrative.
This hackjob of an article keeps getting more hilarious:
She said, not explaining where this number came from.
Incidentally, they mention some crazy fucker from Ohio State named Devin Deitsch who actually does support infanticide, so I googled him. It's a goldmine:
MORE DEVIN:
This guy is hysterical:
This man is mentally ill.
Welch apparently got smashed after the filming of the show, because there is no other plausible explanation for that word-salad above.
We expect there to be some Kumetai-level bloodsport in the Suderman v Sanchez attire-battle
Prediction: Black
Oh! Lou Dobbs?
Well, her glasses are mulatto.
Is luu dobbs black? Sorry bro... my fuckin face is full o' paraphenialiax
Dude's got coke all over his goatee.
Where is Michael Weiss? What is Michael Weiss doing while all this is going on?
The comedian gets it.
KURDS ARE AWESOME.
Fun fact: A buddy of ours was Kurd growing up.
A buddy of ours
Is that like the Canadian version of being mobbed up?
He knows a guy.
/narrows gaze. Takes shot of hootch. Wipes lips.
I was a Whey growing up.
Grrrrr
"Fun fact: A buddy of ours was Kurd growing up."
So what did he grow into?
I recognize it wasn't grammatically perfect...but admit you were waiting for me to slip up, right? Heh.
Shucks! Caught me!
Many Kurds are commies. They just look awesome next to the scum that surrounds them.
I love kurdish milfz...
SOMALIA DOESN'T HAVE A GOVERNMENT.
Libertopia!
And no roadz as an extra bonus!
Arabs and Persians are pretty civil. Great hospitality. Their governance are retarded.
Wait, you mean you don't believe that governments are a completely legitimate representation of the soul of a people?!
We are teh gubmint. Teh gubmint is us!
My feed is not working. WTF, Comcast?
Happens.
Call Comcast support. I KID, I KID!!!
You better be...cause that's like a death threat otherwise. Comcast customer service operatives can cause persistent vegetative states in unwary callers.
Get a teeeveee.
OK, my feed is working...
Why does Suderman have flop sweat?
What are Republicans going to do about Obamacare? Talk about it. NO! Fuck, you mean they aren't going to do anything? Gawd, it's so pathetic how libertarians could never have predicted something like that.
Welch and Suderman should be happy.
Conservatives will conserve whatever the Proggies/Dems have done. It's right there in the name.
Something about foreseeable consequences not being unintended...
Now I can see why Hitler grew that little stache. Kennedy, please slap this guy.
The funny thing about the Hitler stache is he absolutely ruined that look for all time for dark haired whites. The only ones I see get away with it are old black guys.
Libertarian moment!
Someone hit Suderman with a tranq gun.
That's what bourbon is for?
You asking or telling?
Ah, may gawd, meu deus, sweet jeebus, not millenials again...
So they're indecisive retards.
+/- 20 margin of error
If they believed in hope and change, then they're useful idiots.
The Independents Attire Review, 29 October 2014
Sharp Medicine-Edition
- Kennedy: Yesterday Pink...Today Blue? We confess to a strong conservative bias in preferring girly colors on girly girls. As far as Blues go, we tend to like Navy better than this type of 'powdery'-pastel thing. In fact, we even prefer the nutty space-thing she was wearing Monday. Its not *bad* per se, its just not tickling my fancy-bone.
- Matt: New Purple Tie - god we (#*$@ love it. And the blue shirt gives it a better platform than white in our opinion. I'd make the case its the best overall style match with this suit, even though its not as bold as either the Red w/white or Navy w/blue. Those things are formulaic - this has personality.
- Kmele: We always love any monochromatic combinations, and Kmele is a ninja with this sort of Grey-on-Grey layering thing. The splash of color with the hanky is a master-class touch proving our point. We like Kmele in the 'tieless sportcoat' arrangement as a visual alternative to Matt, who stays pretty regularly-suited all the time.
- Sudermandingo: The short-collared shirts still make Peter's head look huge; but not a major problem because his former jacket-fit-woes seem to have have been solved... yet replaced with a horrible wrinkling across the shoulders? I like the 'rumpled' look sometimes, but here it looks unintentional.
Grazie a tutti
Christ, is this a fukin Gilmore bazooka fired into the brains of the hopelessly fucked up..?
Comment on Matt's tie; I love it too, but either tie it right (tighter, not see button) or wear it looser (much looser).
He seems to prefer the 'lazy 4-in-hand' / aka 'Schoolboy knot'
I've suggested he try the half-windsor, which comes off much more 'triangular' than 'tubular'
but i don't think its happening.
Gilmoratopia sufferage.. like Gilomora FUKIN topia needs a FUKIN windsor YA fuckin trite whore.
I swear that coat hangs fine until I sit down. And then it's like it's made of paper mache.
So stand up?
Clue? Republicans?
HAHAHAHAHA!
For fuck sakes, nothing suggests to me Millennials are free thinking independents.
Do you knot love the millenial virgin? He likely would slather his fast hair onto your stiff dick 'till jackolation.
I have no idea what this means, but am at half mast at the thought of it.
Clap your hands if you believe!
Winstion should cook fish... and then shit... and the live a live smashed.
'An opportunity for the Republican party if they have any clue'...
You're kidding, Matt, right?
Since Matt opposed the shutdown then "getting a clue" means more of the same.
Winston emailed me... he loves le' shape o' Hyperion dick...
I want nuttin to do with this mad sexy nonsense.....
Dem presidents: Let them eat public school cake.
School cake killed nazis you fukin twat munchie
You know who else was a Nazi?
George soros?
What's so healthy about ham?
ham is the buttfuk o' chez
My gawd, Kennedy, that was fucking great. I still love you.
i'd love to fuck you and Kennedalicious.... o sweet delish Resonoin opinon...
Ha, ha. He's a regular Rodney Dangerfield.
Chicago can vote as many times as they want. They're going to get a Democrat no matter what they do.
Isn't that just like a Wop? Brings a knife to a gunfight!
The Weaving Dead.
Fuck you Independents! I posted both of those on the A.M. links. Where's my national TV hat tip!!!
Kennedy an le' witchy Lenore have earned le' coupons for my slippery hands upon their hot bods...
There was nothing uncreepy about that.
Molest Me Elmo?
Yeah, Manufacturing Marvels, let Pennsylvanians try to walk out of places with a 6-pack under their arms. See what happens.
^^^ Fan of Manufacturing Marvels and thanks The Independents for bringing it to him several times a week.
What a fucking asshole.
Fuck you, you fat fuck!
Your belly is a 49 whish means super fukin loser UNhealthy
Your belly is a 49 whish means super fukin loser UNhealthy
I believe that you just slurred your writing. A tip of the top hat to your ability to post remain conscious while so inebriated.
Kennedy was pretty awesome with the wookie diss and then the Times Square thing, so I'm thinking about stopping my call for Matt locking her in the Reason Dungeon again.
Why does Hype baby donut gettin pissy about girls suckin his ass make rockets fly?
I nominate this comment as an early frontrunner for Best Comment of 2014
John Bolton has looked Ebola in the eye and seen the future of terror!
The military, risk averse? Naaahhhwwwww!
Yeah, Kennedy. Support our tent-bound troops!
Does Kennedy want her sweet lips around a fist dick?
Who doesn't? It's my dick that's sweet.
If someone wanted a biological weapon, why not anthrax or a mutated strain of smallpox? Just saying, why Ebola?
Aids is a biological weapon.
Smallpox practically doesn't exist anymore outside of some very well guarded laboratories at the CDC, or at least a storage room their old storage room, but still, you have to have a custodian key to get in there. Or a credit card, maybe. Anthrax isn't as contagious person to person. Ebola really might be as easy as getting it and deciding to spread it.
So, tell me why Ebola is more contagious than Smallpox? I mean, I'm sure if we could wipe out smallpox with the tech we had back then, we can equally wipe out Ebola. They're both just programs, right?
Pretty sure it's virus vs bacteria.
I don't get it. Smallpox is a virus as well as Ebola, right?
Oops.
In which case, let me pry this foot out of my mouth.
We still have an effective vaccine for Smallpox. Smallpox is actually a lot more contagious than ebola.
No such luck with Ebola, yet.
Anthrax can be treated with Cipro.
Was he symptomatic at the time?
Bolton channeling Greg House.
Take the fight to them before they bring to the fight to us?
Kmele, you rock!
The military is being ordered to go there; everyone else is there voluntarily...
So fuck their complaining.
Kennedy wants to drown the Ebola doctors in Hawaii lava.
Lava is an effective anti-viral. Just sayin'
Lava is a bobarian ass fuck?
First time drinking, buddy?
First time formulating sentences.
anti-viral... not pro-viral. Sheesh. Can no one hold their licker anymore? Kids these days.
*shakes .45*
Good news. We can cure you of ebole.
Bad news. We have to throw you in lava.
But will Pele approve?
Here's the thing =
While i revile against excesses of authority by the State...
...!@#*&$@ quarantining someone? sorry, no sympathies at all. Its temporary, its preventative, its purely as a risk-mitigation process. Yes, we know 'you're only contagious if you're symptomatic'. Well guess what? We don't want you to discover your symptoms *on the goddamn subway*.
So if states choose to require people to spend a few weeks in relative isolation? *(via their own choice to go play Dr Quinn in the Hot Zone) I don't think that's anything that anyone has the right to bitch about.
Patient: So, where were you the last couple of months?
Nurse: Cleaning out the Ebola shed in Africa!
Patient: Oh... really?
Nurse: Yep... so, just lie back and we'll start the blood transfusion.
Should been in on the clusterfuck that was the nurse quarantine thread. You, Lady Bertrum and I are severely outnumbered on this one.
http://reason.com/blog/2014/10.....s-clutches
It's calmed down.
This situation is bullshit (disclosure: I'm generally for having a quarantine policy for returning Ebola healthcare workers) primarily because it's being pushed by politicians, not any medical officials.
"..!@#*&$@ quarantining someone? sorry, no sympathies at all."
Gilmore, check here:
http://reason.com/blog/2014/10.....nt_4865506
Someone (DK) seems quite knowledgeable, and is calmly answering questions.
I'm trying to get a handle on it...
Can you just tell me the point?
I don't care if the complaint is, "uh, science says there's no risk until you're bleeding out the eyeballs"
The fact is that 'accidents happen' with the 'self monitoring regime'. The NYC doctor proved that. This isn't a situation where the cost-benefit is on the side of 'wait and see'
GILMORE|10.29.14 @ 9:59PM|#
"Can you just tell me the point?"
I sure wish I could. DK has what seems to be good data, but I don't see a slam-dunk either way.
I got this link from a different Reason thread last week or so. It's a great read on the subject:
http://www.theatlantic.com/nat....._page=true
Sanchez looks like he's sticking his head through a cardboard cutout of someone wearing a suit.
Watch as Sanchez backs as far away from Snowden and Ars Technica as quickly as possible.
I heard a rumor. I'm here for the Agile Cyborg bender/meltdown. Let's go!
I'll get the beer and popcorn.
You're late.
I've noticed that Fridays are best for that. No offense meant to Agile Cyborg, of course. I'm assuming his drunken perverted ramblings are completely consensual.
I thought that first post by Agile... well I wasn't sure. But I just went upthread. Pretty sure dude is trippin.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. I'm sure it all makes sense to him at the moment.
(i pretend to not notice its insanity. best for everyone concerned I think.)
DIRTY SANCHEZ - MASTER OF STYLE
- Shows Matt how Level II of the Purple Tie con Blue Shirt can be employed.
- Knots his tie with *intent*
- Microstripe suits? I tend to think they're a little 'late 90s', and go better with solid ties, but Sanchez regularly rocks different patterned suits and seems to have made them part of his basic arsenal.
- Overall the basic formula of 'grey suit, purple tie, and blue shirt' is one of the great ones, and JS spices it up in his slightly off-kilter way. Spotted tie, stripes on suit, plaid hanky. He dances on the edge of 'wrong' but comes away looking like a pro. That sort of thing only comes from years of practice and failure. And he has often failed *dramatically* only to emerge here today, *Styling As Fuck*.
Victory = Sanchez
Your fashion posts are the only thing keeping my alive any more, GLIMORE. That and knowing they ALWAYS put your handle on TWICE every Two Minute's Hate.
You're doing the Lord's work - God bless you!
They're welcome to look at my AAA renewal notices.
Wow. Missed the whole show - AGAIN. #IHazASad
There are some things I like about the USPS. And they are somewhat useful.
I can't say either of those things about the wookie or Jersey Fats.
On these points, I agree with you entirely.
AH! Lou Dobbs.
Wait, my understanding was that the USPS is data mining all mail already (to-from-when, where, etc.)
You can't erode a freedom you don't have.
DERBS!
Kennedy in a panda onesie.
Damnit! I clicked that because I was expecting to see Kennedy in a tight fitting panda suit. What the fuck is that!?
GAAAHHHH!!DOBBS
DERRBBBZZZ!!!!
Fuck you, Obama, you idiot.
U.S. postal now? And you guys make fun of Canada?
Well, yes.
So why is it that Suderman, Welch and Gillespie quite rightly attack the Republicans for being statist fucks who pretend to be in favor small government but when they give actual policy advice to the Republicans it's to be the same old statist fucks?
http://reason.com/blog/2014/10.....about-obam
Getting invited to the right cocktail parties has it's price.
Can't tell if sarcasm.
Whether it's sarcasm or not (It was) it's true no matter.
http://reason.com/blog/2014/10.....en-they-wi
This is what Gillespie considers sound advice:
What Republicans can't do is spend their time trying to chop chunks of government, obsess on the spending side, cut holes in the safety net, perpetuate cronyism or let paranoia gut anti-terror measures (e.g. drones, NSA).
Gillespie loves nothing more than opposing what Republicans are doing so that he can claim to be super duper independent. As such, when Republicans are statists, he is a radical libertarian. When Republicans are opposing the state, he assures us that they're being too radical and ensuring Democratic victories.
When Republicans are opposing the state, he assures us that they're being too radical and ensuring Democratic victories.
Strange how so many libertarians end up no different from the Republicans they claim to hate.
That's also a reason (drink!) I'm skeptical of the "libertarian moment" since libertarians will have to moderate themselves in order to get elected and they will soon end sounding exactly like the Republicans.
Or worse, the Democrats.
*shudder*
^a billion times this. Weird how the prevailing assumption seems to be that hypothetical libertarian candidates wouldn't have to be pragmatic or political to win.
and it's not a matter of preference. It's just the reality.
Can't forget Welch and Suderman on the shutdown. I guess Boehner is too strong-willed for them(!?)
I love Matt Welch in a totally platonic way. But I disagreed with him super-duper strongly on the whole shutdown.
Shut it.. the fuck...down.
Quit trying to get positive airplay on NPR. Shut... it... down...
My favorite was the time that Lew Rockwell attacked Bush for "not believing in government". His argument seemed to be that since the Republicans "don't believe in government" they are a bunch of crooks and statists and since Democrats "belive in government" they are willing to actually roll back the state.
Went back to check on the "Ebola Nurse" and "Sorority Girls" posts for the lulz....look who I found at the latter....
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Agile Cyborg|10.29.14 @ 9:14PM|#
Females and alcohol create society rot. Nothing good comes from girls drinking booze. Nothing. So it makes sense for the greater good that bitches be UNboozed.
/I'm fuckin' wid ya'll... I love drunk babes... so does my wife who loves hot studs...
jes sayin for a dude who loves mmf's.
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Agile Cyborg|10.29.14 @ 9:38PM|#
Finaly... it is wise to let women drink what the fuck they wish...
periodiso...
Are women weak shits? Uncapable.. . Childlike or minors?
Are women dumb and stupid?
I see woman as my equal... rahter horrified that all this shit even exists... sorry for being fuked up wit h boooze and maybe some coke
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Bolding mine. This man....pardon my cis-assumption....is a national treasure. A national, fucking, TREASURE.
I knew ?. ? was a friend of mine. Agile Cyborg is no ?.
You deserve combat pay. Mystery: SOLVED
So, if you mistook and old, black guitar player for another old, black guitar player, and called him by the wrong old, black guitar player's name...oh, and if he were Canadian....might he say, "I'm not your Buddy Guy!"
/prolly too long a setup
Giants gonna win this! I need any bit of hope living in my occupied city.
Fingers.....................
crossed.
I'm not on your side. We can be friends tomorrow.
Hey, I've been watching two really good teams. Go Giants, but if they lose, they lose to one of the best.
Enjoy the noise outside of your residence tonight. And the traffic during the parade..... SUCKER!!!
PB is also a Giants fan, you want to be associated with that?
Shoulda been a St. Louis-KC World Series.
Also we can thank Senator Symmington for the Royals.
The teams were pretty damned equal - 89 wins versus 88, won the league from the wild card spot - the Giants have Baumgartner, the Royals don't. That was the difference.
I'm really amused that R.U.R., the play that coined the term robot, was about robots rebelling against humanity. Hell the term robot itself is a metaphor for serfdom. So the notion that artificial intelligence being like slaves and them rebelling and killing humanity are extremely old
Has there been a gay Mexican pothead named Juan on the show yet?
So is John Tory the ultimate libertarian? He supports gay marriage, immigration, isn't a penny pincher and doesn't want to repeal Obamacare. 2 out of 3 is good.
OK. I'm really tired. I'm going to be soon. One of you needs to stay up late and hold back Agile Cyborg's hair while he pukes. Anyone?
hold back Agile Cyborg's hair while he pukes
What's Walter Block's take on this issue?
No. I may roll him over on his side if he passes out on his back, though.
So why is 10 PM eastern the libertarian curfew?
Libertarians have jobs. Explain yourself.
I would have thought that Reasonoids would have uploaded their minds into some robots that don't need to sleep.
Why is that asshole wearing ski googles? Sevo? Papaya? Anyone care to defend him?