Hong Kong Clashes as Cops Remove Protesters' Barricades


The situation in Hong Kong is heating up today. Pro-democracy protesters are struggling with both the police and violent bands of masked men.
AFP reports on law enforcement dismantling barricades set up by demonstrators in the city's financial district:
"There was no warning in advance whatsoever. It was nasty," [said] student protester Lanny Li.
Li said the occupied area is shrinking making it more vulnerable.
"This is the last line of defense for the people near the government offices," said Cherry Yuen as she sat in front of metal barriers 50 meters from police lines.
"The police just want to trick us again. We won't move and I'm ready to get arrested."
"The police refuse to communicate with us, they just do what they want," said Wong King-wa, 25.
According to The New York Times, "More than 50 protesters rallied and prevented officers from taking down barricades."
Protesters want Leung Chun-ying, Hong Kong's chief executive, to step down and for mainland China to allow the people of Hong Kong to vote for their representatives. Leung has promised talks with the protesters, but has since cancelled them. He insists that the protests are "out of control" but have "almost zero chance" of changing China's control over Hong Kong's leadership.
Protest leaders issued a joint statement countering that "in fact, it is our government that is out of control—a government that fires tear-gas at unarmed citizens and unilaterally terminated dialogue with the students."
But, the government isn't the only problem for protesters today. After the police cleared some barricades, people opposed to the students' demonstrations began attacking.
The Economist reports that "masked men" and "a cavalcade of taxi drivers, angered by loss of business, drove up to the barricades and honked their horns, accusing student protesters of 'chilling out in tents' while the working class struggle to make a living."
"Hundreds of people opposed to the pro-democracy demonstrations here attacked the protesters' main camp on Monday, trying to tear down street barricades," says the Times.
By contrast, the pro-democracy students' civil disobedience has been, well, pretty civil: They clean up messes, recycle, and stay off fresh-cut public grass. Although their numbers waned last week, they surged again on Friday, and are in the "tens of thousands."
Chinese state-run media blames the U.S. for the pro-democracy sentiment and unrest.
Euronews got some footage of today's scuffles:
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Are any of the usual news outlets reporting on this? Aside from here I haven't boo on it anywhere else.
It's like that explosion in Iran. It seemed like it got next to no domestic coverage. Weird.
I heard something about it on NPR this morning.
Why do we care?
C'mon Homple, there are serious libertarian issues involved here. Just like Rotherham, hence the extensive coverage from Reason on that as well.
Well that, and there are actual Hong Kong libertarians taking part in the protests.
Was Hong Kong Phooey taking part?
Of course! He's their number one super guy!
Restoras, to clarify, I should have asked, "What do we intend to do about it?"
Oh, well that's diff'rint.
Drones? Or alcohol?
Your lunch time derp: auto-tuned Muslim propaganda songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3xjz4nxzGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOG9L4_dbdM
Muslims have progaganda? I didn't know they were so political, I thought either you convert or they chop off your head, no silly and time consuming propaganda needed.
ISIS takes time to explain, in English, why they are justified in keeping sex slaves: "One should remember that enslaving the families of the kuffar -- the infidels -- and taking their women as concubines is a firmly established aspect of the Shariah, or Islamic law," the group says in an online magazine published Sunday.
The title of the article sums up the ISIS point of view: "The revival (of) slavery before the Hour," referring to Judgment Day.
The fourth edition of the group's English-language digital magazine called "Dabiq" said that female members of the Yazidi sect, an ethnically Kurdish minority living mostly in Iraq, may legitimately be captured and forcibly made concubines or sexual slaves.
Well, at least this conflict has clear bad guys.
As usual, CNN cannot help but lie:
"(CNN) -- In a new publication, ISIS justifies its kidnapping of women as sex slaves citing Islamic theology, an interpretation that is rejected by the Muslim world at large as a perversion of Islam."
Oh really? Someone should have told those Ottoman sultans that sex slaves are un-Islamic before they kidnapped women for their harems.
Well, that and the fact that Saudi Arabia only got around to abolishing slavery de jure, de facto ISIS got nothing on the KSA as thousands of Bangladeshi, Indonesian, and Filipina maids can attest, in 1964.
To be fair, they are talking about the Islamic world at large now, not 100 years ago. I have no idea what the Islamic world at large really thinks about sex slavery, but being an optimistic and charitable person, I imagine they are probably largely against it. But I really don't know.
Still, it is silly to make a blanket statement like that about Islam. It is not exactly a unified religion.
Let's just say it is a continuing debate.
I will not argue with the experts and adherents of their respective religions.
According to The New York Times, "More than 50 protesters rallied and prevented officers from taking down barricades."
Does anyone else find it odd that entities like the NYT always want to support freedom movements overseas, but do the exact opposite and shill for the police state here at home?
OT question. The Fed is supposed to "end QE in October". We're mid October...when exactly is the fed supposed to stop QE? They have about 17 days.
October of what year, Paul? Of what year? There's an election in November for God's sake.
Markets are down fourth day in a row after all the 'good' news on the Fed's meeting minutes-- which I think turned 'bad' when people digested what they're saying. So if they do end stimulus and the economy goes into recession because we no longer have the electrical leads attached to its nuts, do we go to negative interest rates?
A lot of people are hoping the Fed will continue to artificially prop up the market and fear the time when that will end. Because a lot of savings are sitting in that market.
A lot of people are hoping the Fed will continue to artificially prop up the market
So... continue QE and not end it in October?
Yep. Talk to the contrary appears to me to be an attempt to bolster the idea that we're in some sort of raging recovery. Look, unemployment as we now define the term is lower! The market is up! Best economy ever!
So the teabagging crackpots will be right again, and QE will head into yet another round?
I'm beginning to think you're right because when I search for news stories on QE ending in October, all I can find is stuff from the middle of the year, and a few articles in September. Given that we're minutes... MINUTES away from QE ending, you'd think the talk would be heating up. If they do end QE, what's your over/under on negative interest rates?
It shows exactly how bad the left is on economics. They think a few good numbers mean everything is lovely. They don't get economics at all. A lot of people are out of work. A lot of people are working part-time jobs who were working full time not that long ago. A lot of people are noticing stores closing and not being replaced with new businesses.
This is not a good or healthy economy. It's a sick one, infected by a massive parasite.
There is no way they'll end it. In too deep now, might as well keep digging.
QE(insert infinity symbol) is here to stay.
QE(insert infinity symbol) is here to stay.
Well, reality will step in with a plague of locusts or zombie apocalypse that will eventually end it.
Look, unemployment as we now define the term is lower! The market is up! Best economy ever!
This is what Weigel believes.
No offense to Dave, but if that's true, he's got issues. Frankly, what illusory economic health we do retain seems to be mostly smoke and mirrors. If the rest of the world weren't having its own problems, I think we'd be facing economic disaster right now.
We already have negative real interest rates. They can absolutely get more negative.
I assume you're talking about effective interest rates based on how our wealth is growing vs inflation, cost of living etc.
Yeah, probably.
I'm just talking about the Fed rate which has been at its historic zero percent for the longest time in history.
David Wood dissects some Obama and Affleck derp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47JmO28nYxU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwv9Vum3QB0