Uber and Lyft Shut Down in Pennsylvania; Thousands of Citizens' Lives Made Worse
Every day, thousands of people have a pleasant and useful experience using smartphone-app ride-hailing services such as Uber and Lyft, and many drivers are able to make a living providing a useful service.
Alas, nearly every day, some bunch of petty jerks in local or state government try to do something to prevent those pleasant and useful experiences from happening, as readers of Hit and Run know all too well.
The latest such foolishness, out of Pennsylvania, reported by Pittsburgh Business Times:
Uber Technologies Inc. and Lyft Inc. have been issued a cease-and-desist order and must immediately stop operations in Pittsburgh.
In an order granted Tuesday, Judges Mary D. Long and Jeffrey A. Watson said the companies cannot operate until they secure the appropriate authority from the Pennsylvania Public Utility Commissio….[N]o stay-of-order will be permitted while the matter is being reviewed by the commission.
The judges know they are being officious jackasses and making life worse, amazingly:
"We are not blind or deaf to the public opinion, at least in the Pittsburgh area, that the transportation needs of many individuals are not adequately met by currently certificated carriers. Nor are we unmindful of the potential benefits of the service proposed by Lyft," they write. "…Therefore, it may seem to some that our order here is contrary to the public interest in the ability of individuals to secure transportation in a timely manner."
It does seem that way, and it totally is!
Still, the judges maintain that a sophisticated system of realtime user satisfaction ratings is not sufficient to ensure, you know, the public safety. Only receiving a certificate from a state board of bureaucrats can do that. No one with a certificate can ever get in an accident or harm their passenger in any way, apparently.
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Libertopia on the doorstep, yellin "Lemme iiiiiiiiiiinnn!"
Funny, it usually sounds more like 'Leeeeeeeeroooy Jenkins!" to me, charging right down the path of greatest resistance.
At least I got chicken.
I'd like some citizen to Lyft their panties out of the twist they are in into an Uber-wedgie.
So that applies only to Pittsburgh, right? Not all of PA?
I would guess so, I doubt there's much of a transit authority out in the sticks.
The PUC is a state board, not local, unless I'm mistaken, so this should apply statewide. Lyft only operates in Pittsburgh in that state; Uber operates in Philly as well.
Yes, but if you live in Philly, your life is already so shitty, I'm not sure you can make it measurably worse just by taking away Uber.
That's exactly what I was thinking for Pittsburgh as well. PA: it's sort of like another Illinois.
Ugh.
Hey, nice little business you got here. Shame if something happened to it.
Yeah, they're not even entertaining that song-and-dance.
Now it's just, "Here's what's going to happen to your business..."
I wonder if PA highways sport signs giving out a phone number for "carpool information".
Good for them for ensuring public safety. One of these unlicensed hacks could pick up some drunk young girl and force himself on her while his buddies keep her friends from intervening. That's totally unacceptable in Pittsburgh.
Fixed it.
And the taxi cab drivers rejoiced.
By keeping fares waiting.
C'mon. We still have a state-owned liquor store system. Once we have a consumer-hating monopoly in place, we don't change.
Another reason to be ashamed to be from PA
1. Philadelphia
2. Political corruption
3. Liquor Laws
now this
I've been a casual 4wheeling enthusiast, and when last on the boardz, all the 4wd enthusiasts from PA said that the state patrol up there actually enforce the bullshit laws that many states have, but ignore, about things like wheel spacing, how much tire extends beyond the wheel well, how the tires are mounted on the rims etc.
"There's no better place to do business than right here in the United States of America."
-President Hashtag
President Hashtag... I'm borrowing that.
Reminds me of King Cuomo's lies about New York. Oh, wait, those are the political spam he's saturating the airwaves with.
Thousands of Citizens Lives Made Worse
For some reason, your spellchecker is correcting "Subjects". Or maybe "Serfs".
I blame the NSA.
Or maybe Bush.
I'd be interested to see the distinction between Uber/Lyft and a carpool.
You may not pay cash for the carpool. Although you might, to help with gas, etc., in which case I don't think there's any distinction at all.
Even if you don't, your carpool probably rotates who drives. That means you are still getting something of value (free rides) in exchange for when you drive.
The distinction is obscene profits!
Convenience, mostly. A carpool situation is typically set times, to one location. I don't know about Lyft, but to be perfectly honest, I don't see much difference between Uber and a taxi service, other than that the cars for Uber are always vastly nicer than any taxi I've ever been in. (Disclosure, I've only ever used Uber in the San Francisco Bay Area, so I have no idea if it's like that in other places. Also, not saying that taxis are particularly bad, just, every Uber I've been in was a stretch Lincoln Town Car or similar luxuriously appointed SUV.)
Again, I don't know how Lyft works, but Uber, you push the "I want a car" button on the app on your phone, it picks someone nearby, makes sure they know you want a ride, and once they accept the fare, tells you how far away they are and when they'll get there. They show up, you get in, you tell them where you're going, they take you, the app charges your account.
So, in terms of being "a ride at your convenience, for money", it's very simi9lar to ... well, to the *idea* of a taxi, although vastly more convenient.
None of which is to say that I think that even taxis should have to put up with the sort of BS they have to put up with, let alone that Uber should. Just that in concept they aren't very different.
All that is not PERMITTED is forbidden.
Hard to believe we used to kill people that tried to foist that shit on us Americans.
Is PA's proximity to NY, NJ, and MD somehow an irresistible motive to make PA become more totalitarian that all of those other bordering states combined? WTF is up with that state? Whatever it is, I've got the message loud and clear, stay the fuck away from PA.
Actually, we've got a few benefits. We're hands down the most 2nd Amendment friendly state of the entire northeast. And we're the only state that doesn't allow local cops to use radar, only staties, and they stick to the turnpike and highways.
And you gave up your 4th amendment rights completely, there's that. So I guess you're ok unless a cop pulls you over and decides to dissemble your car without you consenting to a search at all.
? The PA Supreme Court just said the PA constitution protects no more than the 4th Amendment; it couldn't make it protect less. So PA used to be better off, and is now just equal.
Yep. You can't take your gun into any neighboring state. PA wins on the 2nd, by losing the least in the area.
I dispute that. Vermont Carry gives most States a run for their money. NH and ME are shall-issue jurisdictions, and offer no significant practical statutory difference. The only apparent difference is Pennsyltucky society more strongly embracing gun and hunting culture. Commerce stops entirely in the central parts specifically due to the latter.
Even better, only staties are allowed to use radar, but they have to turn any traffic fines back over to the municipality they're in at the time, so they have no financial incentive to set up speed traps.
I just checked my phone and Uber still has cars for hire here in Philthydelphia. I got an e mail this morning from them advertising rides down to the Jersey Shore for as low as $29. If they are banned statewide it doesn't seem like anyone here got the memo.
Website on autopilot? You should call a car and see if anyone shows. If they do, dial 911 and watch the fireworks.
Why would I ever dial 911?
Low income neighborhoods around Pittsburgh don't even use "legal" cab services. The jitney drivers have been meeting the transportation needs of Pittsburgh residents in the areas that cab companies wouldn't even travel too. Statist can regulate all they want but they will never stop underground economies.
Black Liberty Unchained|7.1.14 @ 11:33PM|#
"Low income neighborhoods around Pittsburgh don't even use "legal" cab services."
Those hoods are ignored by city gov'ts nationwide.
There is no way you're gonna get a cab in the Bayview in SF; you're gonna have to know someone.
But the BOS doesn't give it shit; the cabbies are a source of income and votes and that's all that matters. Screw you if you can't get a cab.