Puppycide

Don't You Dare Criticize Officers For Shooting Dogs, Whines SLC Top Cop

Maybe animals that can't speak for themselves evoke greater sympathy than men, women, and children--though not from the pompous cops that abuse them.

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Police Chief Chris Burbank
Justice for Geist

Perhaps feeling a bit besieged after dog owner Sean Kendall posted a video of his impassioned confrontation with Salt Lake City police after one of their fellow officers entered his yard and shot his dog, Geist, Police Chief Chris Burbank stepped in front of a camera—and acted pissy that anybody would dare criticize his officers.

"Evidence shows that the dog was extremely close, in fact within feet of the officer," he insisted, immediately after stating that he wouldn't insert himself into the review of the case.

Well, OK. Let's give him that one. After all, Officer Brett Olsen, the shooter in the incident, had barged into the dog's yard at the time, while searching for a missing child in the neighborhood. He hadn't sought permission, and he apparently made no effort to back out. But he was there.

Then Burbank went on to refer to Olsen as a "seasoned officer" and a "hero" of the Trolley Square mall shooting before getting pissy about the public's angry response to the shooting of Geist. He read infuriated letters suggesting that Olsen deserved the same as he'd inflicted on Geist, and then went on to berate the public at large.

"It is extremely disappointing. This police department has worked tirelessly to ensure that the process that exists within our city for people to protest, for people to bring forth issues, for people to address problems and concerns with the police department, that avenues exist that we can move together and resolve problems…

Individuals will be held accountable for their actions as they always are. Not held accountable to this ridiculousness."

He went on to demand, well, that people respect his officers' authoritah.

"I ask only one thing, and that is that this community continues to approach interactions with the police department in a respectful manner." 

Maybe this world just isn't good enough for you and your officers, Chief Burbank.

Justice for Geist rally
Justice for Geist

The chief's resentment at public criticism didn't seem to to take with those outraged by Geist's shooting. Yesterday, organized by Justice for Geist, somewhere between hundreds and thousands of protesters rallied outside the Salt Lake City Police Department to demand that Olsen be fired.

The Salt Lake City council also, rather gently, urged the police department to work with the Humane Society and consider less-lethal means of dealing with family pets. Even implied criticism of that sort toward the state's enforcers is rare from politicians.

Burbank did get one thing right when he marveled, "after 23 years in law enforcement, I haven't seen this sort of public outcry when certain human beings have lost their lives."

Militarized, aggressive and abusive policing is not a new thing, and innocent humans are often the victims, not dogs. But maybe animals that can't speak for themselves more easily evoke sympathy than men, women, and children.

Below, Sean Kendall confront police after learning of the shooting.

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  1. Well, OK. Let’s give him that one. After all, Officer Brett Olsen, the shooter in the incident, had barged into the dog’s yard at the time, while searching for a missing child in the neighborhood. He hadn’t sought permission, and he made no effort to back out. But he was there.

    Uh…how on Earth is it not a violation of the property owner’s Constitutional rights for a cop to be in his fenced in back yard without a warrant?

    Burbank did get one thing right when he marveled, “after 23years in law enforcement, I haven’t seen this sort of public outcry when certain human beings have lost their lives.”

    I like that his defense is “Hey guys, we’ve killed a shit load of people too and you didn’t care about that. Checkmate, peons.”

    1. +1 dropped mic

    2. And for a missing child? It’s one thing to cut through while in a hot pursuit, but he was just looking for a missing child? Could the cop barge into your house and say, “Step back, looking for a missing child”?

      This should be a huge controversy regardless of the dog.

      1. The missing kid was also found sleeping in her own basement.

        Clearly it was necessary for cops to violate the fourth amendment rights of the neighbors in order to search for a child before checking her own fucking basement.

      2. Could the cop barge into your house and say, “Step back, looking for a missing child”?

        Damn it, MJ! Stop giving them ideas!

      3. EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES!

    3. Uh…how on Earth is it not a violation of the property owner’s Constitutional rights for a cop to be in his fenced in back yard without a warrant?

      Well it was a yard, which has soil that could potentially be used to grow crops, which could then potentially be sold, some of which could potentially be transported across a line on a map, and, man, those potential crops could potentially be resold on the other side of that line, so, Commerce Clause. Given that these potential crops could potentially be illegal drugs so you have War on Drugs. Drugs are a known source of income for terrorist organization so, War on Terror. Also there was a child missing who could have potentially kidnapped for sex slavery so, Human Trafficking, too. Given how thin the federal government is oppressing protecting the masses the totality of the circumstances makes clear that the local law enforcement heroes pitch in at a suitable union wage to assist in guarding against all these potential threats. Makes perfect sense really.

      Oh, and FYTW.

      1. ROTFLMAO. Good post Dances-with-Trolls.

      2. Yeah… And since that back yard is subject to property taxes, the City/county/State actually owns it anyway. They just humor ‘property owners’ with a deed, it’s kind of a running joke… Those ‘owners’ should just be thankful they were allowed to build anything there in the first place.

        1. That’s why they call it a “building permit”.

    4. That officer needs to be sued endlessly,, along with his department. I hope the dog’s owner gets his pension.

      Also, where the hell us PETA on this one?

      1. PETA loves killing dogs.

      2. Ha, a LEO held personally financially liable for his conduct! What a kidder. Government is just a name for dogs we all shoot together. Now pay up.

        1. Government is just a name for dogs we all shoot together.

          This is… it’s so beautiful. Anyone insane enough to be on Facebook, please PLEASE post that to wind up your proggy friends.

      3. PETA is a dog’s worst enemy…..Even worse than acop on an adrenaline rush.

    5. Exigent circumstances. He also knocked on the front door, no answer, and continued to search. Every backyard would be a searched area, and no warrant needed for a backyard that is not locked. Until the investigation is concluded and states that he needed a warrant, you are just another loud mouth who needs to learn about your criminal justice system better before talking shit.

      1. TIWTANFL

      2. Exigent circumstances. He also knocked on the front door, no answer, and continued to search.

        I was unaware that not getting an answer at the door meant cops didn’t have to get a warrant. Also, a possible disappearance somewhere in the community is not exigent circumstances to search every home…especially given that the girl was found in her own basement. You don’t get to claim exigent circumstances when you were too much of a fucking moron to search the basement.

        Every backyard would be a searched area, and no warrant needed for a backyard that is not locked.

        The Fourth Amendment ensures that for the most part, your home and its “curtilage” (the attached areas like a backyard) are shielded from police searches that do not involve a warrant. So when does this rule not apply? Let’s say for instance that some suspicious items are lying in your backyard, but in a spot that the public can view it. In this instance, an officer could defend a warrantless search. Or they might simply use this information to get a warrant to search the place. It all depends on the specifics of a case.

        Unless the cop saw the girl in his backyard, he had no right to search there because it was ‘curtilage’ which is protected by the 4th amendment.

        You’re a mendacious moron.

      3. Fuck off pig.

      4. Civil trespassing is now legal?

      5. Get wrecked liar.

      6. I hope you never get No-Knock raided.

        1. No, actually I hope this piece of shit gets no-knock raided and they burn her fucking house down with a flash bang!

      7. Dear Mrs. Bailey,

        Go fuck yourself. Better yet, brush up on property laws, crumble some asbestos into a bag, and inhale deeply.

        Exigent circumstances would apply if he saw the child in the window, or if he chased a person holding the child into the yard. Exigent circumstances don’t apply because the home in question happened to be in the same rough geographical area as a missing child, you fuckwit.

        A cop knocking on a door and not receiving an answer is not an invitation for said cop to make himself at home in the yard, just as a cop knocking on the door of an empty car is not an automatic go-ahead to search said car.

    6. “Certain human beings” was obviously his dig at nobody caring when cops get killed.

      1. Can’t be. Cops aren’t human beings.

      2. Weird, I took it as a backhanded accusation of racism, as in, “So where were all the cries of outrage when we were shooting young black men for holding cell phones in the dark, huh? Tell me that, smart guy?”

  2. “I ask only one thing, and that is that this community continues to approach interactions with the police department in a respectful manner.

    “In Surprising Twist, Burbank Agrees To Work Gratis”

    1. How about respecting the public, toots?

      1. I was thinking that we should respect them as much as they respect us. Then I realized that basically amounted to shooting on sight and probably wouldn’t fly.

        1. Shooting on sight doesn’t leave much room for tasering, choke-holds, or beatings; along with infringements on anyone of numerous constitutionally guaranteed freedoms.

  3. after 23 years in law enforcement, I haven’t seen this sort of public outcry when certain human beings have lost their lives

    You know, I actually wonder about the exact same thing. It’s fucking repulsive that people will ignore an actual human getting shot, but a fucking dog gets shot and that’s what they care about? It’s fucking disgusting.

    1. Well, if humans would stop barking and lunging at police officers it wouldn’t be a problem…

      1. I saw a story the other day about how a cop was fatally mauled by a dog while searching for a missing child. Oh wait. No, I didn’t.

    2. People always assume that humans “Did Something” to deserve what happened. People can be bad! People do wrong things.

      Dogs don’t know any better, and generally aren’t a threat to one’s life unless you’re 5yrs old and you’re dealing with a rabid Cujo.

      When you put it in a direct comparison, people’s apparent relative lack of concern for human life is galling.

      However, the fact is that it is easier for people to translate ‘inhumane’ behavior meted out to animals as ‘utter disregard for life in general’ in a way that killing of humans is not.

      It is easier to witness ‘callousness’ when there is clearly no justifiable case for killing. When a person is shot by a cop, there is always the assumption that the person is by default ‘a criminal’.

      It is easy to point out the most cynical interpretation; its equally easy to accept that people are only easily able to express this sort of compassion for life when it is abstracted in the form of a ‘pet’.

      1. People always assume that humans “Did Something” to deserve what happened. People can be bad! People do wrong things.

        Two reasons for that spring right to mind. One being that people themselves generally don’t run the same mental software that the king’s men do. They find it hard to emotionally comprehend that level of power-love and casual sadism and so reject the thought and settle on something more understandable, even if it is erroneous. Two is that facing the reality that more and more we live in a society where members of the elite class can execute you with about the same consequences faced by a 16th century samurai who can do it for about the same reasons would leave people too terrified to exit their homes, so, denial.

    3. In the film Roger & Me, there is footage of police killing a crazy man on Dort Highway in Flint (probably justified) – in the theater In Chicago where I saw it, there was no reaction.

      In another part, when a woman who sells rabbits for food (or pets) whacks the rabbit to kill it, the place erupted in shrieks of terror and outrage.

    4. Burbank is actually one of the more sincere police chiefs when it comes to dealing with human beings.

    5. That’s just inane. The homeless man that was beat to death by cops had millions of people cared enough to try to hold the cops responsible. But as always the cops are given a by because they are… cops!

      1. Kelly Thomas? He’s an outlier.

        1. Yeah, also nobody really gave a shit about the case outside of a small section of the blogosphere and the cops got off completely scot-free. The fact that it took (probably more like thousands) of people to even get a case brought to a grand jury where it was killed in the cradle is further proof of exactly how fucked up this is.

    6. People should be protesting outside city hall for every dog that gets shot by cops. And for every person, even the criminals.

  4. I don’t normally get worked up over most typical animal cruelty cases, and I can at least usually empathize with cops who are threatened by aggressive dogs in the line of duty, but the details of this case – cop trespasses into some dude’s yard in a non-urgent situation and shoots the dog and doesn’t even try to avoid it – is just sick.

    I agree there should be a whole lot of questions asked, regardless of the dog itself.

    1. Someone should find Olsen’s non-listed address and show it on the internet.

      1. That would be disrespectful!

  5. “It is extremely disappointing. This police department has worked tirelessly to ensure that the process that exists within our city for people to protest, for people to bring forth issues, for people to address problems and concerns with the police department, that avenues exist that we can move together and resolve problems…

    I think perhaps the most important part of such a process would be having someone on the other end of the process that responds to the problems and concerns of the people. It is more than a little ironic that he makes this observation during an address where he completely negates any notion that the department is responsive to problems and concerns of the people.

    Maybe if Alanis Morissette ever decides to rework her song “ironic” to include actual examples of irony she could include this guy.

    1. It is more than a little ironic that he makes this observation during an address where he completely negates any notion that the department is responsive to problems and concerns of the people.

      The Chief obviously means *real* problems and concerns, not this kind of frivolous crap.

      1. I know, right? I mean, we want to see real concerns, like telling us when your neighbor is having another poker night. We just got a new Stryker vehicle and we haven’t had a chance to use it.

      2. ^This^

        Yeah.. Those fickle mush-heads should really be protesting his departments lack of funding, lack of tanks, armed drones and machineguns, lack of NSA grade eavesdropping equipment, lack of Mk19 teargas grenade machineguns, and those goddammed constitutional constraints that make officer and public safety virtually impossible… Peoples priorities are soooo fucked up!

  6. So: the Cheef is ok with this kind of thing happening. That means if some LEO busts into the Cheef’s backyard and shoots his dog, the Cheef won’t have an issue. This is good to know.

    Note to fuckhead Cheef… It is the *entire* incident that people are angry about; not just that your hero managed to shoot a dog without harming anyone else in a three block radius.

    1. your hero managed to shoot a dog without harming anyone else in a three block radius.

      Let’s not undersell that rarity though.

      Here’s a good way you can tell that cops probably don’t actually feel all that threatened in the majority of situations where they shoot dogs: the panicky motherfuckers have about a 45:1 miss-to-hit ratio when firing even at unarmed humans who they have decided constitute a “threat”. I’ve yet to read a dog shooting story that goes “Officers on the scene fired 63 shots, dog hit once in the leg”.

      1. in fact within feet of the officer

        Precisely. The animal was such an unnerving threat that the distance was closed to a few feet before discharging.

    2. Yeah, you know I clip a squirrel in the ass at 30 yards with a Red Ryder and I’M a bad neighbor, but a cop shoots a friggin’ dog at six feet with a 9MM and he’s a hero?

  7. “It is extremely disappointing. This police department has worked tirelessly to ensure that the process that exists within our city for people to protest, for people to bring forth issues, for people to address problems and concerns with the police department, that avenues exist that we can move together and resolve problems…”

    Thank you glorious masters.. thank you, for arbitrarily allowing and casually recognizing our natural, and constitutionally protected rights to free speech and peaceful assembly… when we aren’t criticizing your departments actions. We should also be thankful that avenues exist that allow you to hand down a FYTW vindication of your officers, and departments actions from some vague and obscure internal process, any time people and animals are killed by those hired to protect and serve impose the states will… I feel better already.

  8. “Evidence shows that the dog was extremely close, in fact within feet of the officer,”

    Within feet… WITHIN FEET this pooch approached. Do you have ANY idea just how many officers are severely maimed or killed by dogs every year? Do YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? Exactly.

    Your authority is not recognized in Ft. Kickass!

    1. The dog SHOULD have torn out Olsen’s throat. Still would have been euthanized but he would have gotten a murderer off the streets first.

    2. I believe the number in question is, in the entire history of law enforcement in these United States of America…0.
      That’s the number. Zero.
      Zed, for our European friends.

    3. “Evidence shows that the dog was extremely close, in fact within feet of the officer,”

      By that logic, they can shoot your dog if you walk by on the sidewalk.

  9. “after 23 years in law enforcement, I haven’t seen this sort of public outcry when certain human beings have lost their lives.”

    The Kelly Thomas beating must have happened 24 years ago.

    1. “We haven’t got a radio…”

    2. If the article is correct, and “hundreds” showed up to protest, it’s conceivable there was a larger outcry than with Kelly Thomas. Although the prosecutor did finally throw us a bone by filing charges, and twelve members of that ‘community’ tipped its hat to those charge by fully acquitting two cold-blooded murderers.

      1. WTF is a “Rodney King”?.. and why is L.A. on fire?

        1. *Pedant on*

          Rodney King was beaten in March of 1991, which was 3 months more than 23 years ago.

          Rodney King also wasn’t killed.

          *Pedant off*

          1. **Golf clap**

            Thanks Bo…

            1. Thanks Bo Tulpa…

              1. That is the worst name anyone has ever called me.

                1. Well then.. I hope you’ve learned your lesson…

                2. Wait until they start calling you Nicole.

                  1. oooof!

        2. Hmm, I have shamed my self by refreshing too infrequently.

          1. Don’t worry about it. There are a lot of other ways in which you shame yourself. :-p

            1. You’ll get no argument from me on that front.

          2. “refreshing too infrequently”

            that’ll kill your lovelife

    3. LA Riots were 22 years ago. He’s technically correct since Rodney King just got beaten.

      1. And in addition, there was a racial component. Race trumps everything.

        Amadou Diallo got quite an outcry and got round-the-clock coverage on NPR. I may have heard one, maybe to brief mentions of Kelly Thomas on NPR.

        1. In this case, I’m pretty sure the dog was black under that fur.

      2. I’m so glad I was studying in St. Petersburg, Russia that semester.

        1. We’re wise to you, Comrade Ted…

    4. how dumb are you. A few years at best.

  10. There’s a reason why a dog shooting evokes more sympathy than when a cop shoots a person.

    Unless the dog was behaving rabidly or viciously attacking a person, which is highly unlikely and often refuted by evidence, everybody knows the dog is innocent.

    When a cop shoots somebody, most people assume the guy shot deserved it, or at least that the cop legitimately feared for his life. Continued employment as a cop should put the burden of proof on the shooter, but it’s just the opposite in reality.

    1. +1 All dogs go to heaven

    2. I’ve never wanted to shoot a dog.

      1. I’m ambivalent about that annoying little yappy creature that lives behind us and runs loose most of the time (including at night). On the one hand, I could shoot it. On the other hand, I could “accidentally” let it get under our fence and into our yard, where our real dog (110 pounds of fur, teeth, and attitude) would make a snack out of it in seconds. Root cause analysis tells me to just shoot the careless owner, but that might involve too much paperwork.

        Decisions, decisions.

        1. I have a similar problem. The neighbor yappy dog has actually snapped at my granddaughters on a couple of occasions. Currently I just pelt him with stones (I have wicked good aim from a mis-spent youth) but if that “kick me” lays one actual tooth on my girls he’s getting a bullet.

          1. Don’t wait until your grand kids get bit.

            Talk to the owners now and if he doesn’t fix it then progressively get bigger rocks until it is fixed.

          2. As the owner of a dog who was once nippy, I give you proxy permission to slap the fuck out of the little shit. Believe me, you’re doing the owner a favor.

      2. What about dozens of Cats?

  11. Shooting on New Orleans’ Bourbon Street injures 9 people, 2 critically

    “‘Somebody’s mama knows who did this,’ New Orleans police superintendent says of Bourbon Street shooting”

    Superintendent Episiarch took no further questions.

    1. Yo mama knows who did this so much, that the bitch was subpoenaed “ad testificandum“.

      OH SNAP!

  12. It would be a shame if something horrible happened to Officer Olsen, or one of his family. Just a shame.

  13. Do you know who else had a stupid looking mustache and was an asshole?

    1. Mr. Whipple?

    2. George ‘Pornstache’ Mendez from Orange Is the New Black?

    3. John Bolton?

      1. Roose Bolton

    4. Everyone with a mustache is the answer.

      1. Ron Swanson and I disagree with this statement.

        1. You always need exceptions to make the rule.

    5. Ann Coulter?

      1. Careful, she will kick your ass.

        1. Can’t, she hates soccer.

          1. -1 penalty kick.

      2. Rosie O’Donnell

    6. Super Mario?

    7. Kaiser Wilhelm?

  14. I think the police are in trouble with this long term. Incidents seem to be on the rise, and there’s no way they’re winning a PR battle against dogs.

    1. Against dogs? No.

      Against “pit bulls”? Certainly.

      1. Yeah, no shit. I’ve got two adopted pitties, an SKS and a Remington 870. The latter’s purposes are to protect the former, because god knows the biggest threat my dogs pose to a human being is olfactory in nature.

    2. I’m not sure they care. It seems to me that governments and their goons pretty much think they can do whatever they want and we can all go fuck ourselves if we don’t like it. Not sure what it’s going to take for that to change. I’m pretty sure whatever that would be won’t be pretty nor will the aftermath.

      1. Not sure what it’s going to take for that to change.

        A bloody, long-lasting insurgency.

        1. Just the credible threat would be enough to bring them to their knees…

  15. every time a cop gets shot an angel gets her wings

  16. OT: Boko Haram Spooked By “Mystical Bees” and “Mysterious Snakes”

    Boko Haram fighters fled Nigerian forests recently after a series of deadly bee stings and snake bites. The fighters believe the ghosts of their victims were turning into snakes and bees and killing them off.

    1. In a just-world..

  17. This was a PR disaster. Chief Burbank should have taken a deep breath before walking into that room. He failed every citizen in SLC and most of all Sean Kendall and Geist. What ever shred of decency he had was lost that day. He is now after several SLC incidents become to hot to handle. The citizens of deserve better. Chief Burbank is the one that needs to go FIRST, followed by Officer Olsen.

    There is no second shell casing. I will bet a million dollars Olson had that gun drawn when walking into that yard. A witness statement supports all the neighborhood dogs were barking due to the activity, Geist would have been no different. Close? Of course that is why it is a head shot. Failure to communicate? Yes, the child had been found prior to the shooting.

    When searching for a missing child it is NOT protocol to have your weapon drawn. Fact. As to aggravate a possibly dangerous situation if you were to confront someone with the child.

    Fire Burbank and Olsen. It’s time to clean house. The create new laws at a state level and standardize them on a national level. Human Society? Pffft. Why are they not working with other Police Depts. to find out their protocols?

  18. It is simply silly to compare dogs and humans. There have been PLENTY of cases where a person has been treated wrongly by a cop and the community and social media backed that person. What would have happened if this cop would have walked into this person’s yard and he was cleaning a gun and the cop surprised him? What would have happened if this cop missed the dog and shot a person? This could have been handled differently. There is no excuse for this. We buy our pets, take them to the vet, feed them, walk them, teach them and love them. It takes a lot of time, effort and money to get a dog from a know-nothing pup to a solid citizen of a dog. No cop should have the right to come on private property, without a warrant and shoot a dog (or person or any other type of animal). It’s supposed to be protect and serve, not objectify, terrorize and get away with it.

  19. I’m not going to watch either video because I’ve been drinking. I’m having another to ease the pain.

    I think it would be wise of me to not say what is on my mind about Chris Burbank and Brett Olsen.

    1. I’m just commencing my drinking now. Got a cooler full of Mojito for the beach.

    2. Makes me really glad to know that I don’t live in these places because I don’t think I could contain myself.

  20. Boy, a couple of things jumped out at me in that video.

    1) “Where’s the officer that shot my dog?” “He left.”
    Well, I hope to God this guy is not either of your guys partners, for when the crap hits the fan, he folded like a card table and scurried off, leaving you guys to take the flak. What kind of gutless wonder is he?

    2) “Why did he (Olsen) shoot? “He was threatened by the dog.”
    Christ’s blood man, do you guys ever listen to yourselves? That lame azz excuse is the best you can come up with? That’s what dogs do! They are territorial animals. Don’t they teach that at the academy? Haven’t you guys ever heard about dogs and mailmen?

    “Serve and Protect” has become “Intimidate and Shoot”. That kind of attitude started when the old “Peace Officers” retired and the Newbies became “Law Enforcers”.

    I don’t know if the courts will award any money to the owner, but what the hey, it’s only taxpayers’ money. If they started deducting the award monies from the Police department’s budget, or better yet, out of their retirement fund, these shooting would stop overnight.

  21. This sign should be posted in that owners neighborhood;
    http://i1108.photobucket.com/a…..564e39.jpg
    and this one in the police Ready Room:
    http://i96.photobucket.com/alb…..662dfa.png

    1. LEO’s ARE pussies. They prove it every-frikin-day!

  22. “I ask only one thing, and that is that this community continues to approach interactions with the police department in a respectful manner.”

    Hey fuckstick. Respect is earned. What you and your department have earned is not respect. You seem to have forgotten who you work for. You have forgotten your place. You are just the fuckin’ hired help. Those people complaining about your criminal behavior? Those people are your boss. They don’t owe you respect. You owe them. Now do as you are told.

    1. Amen.

    2. True Dat

  23. FUCK YOU PIG

  24. Isn’t “Geist” the German word for “ghost” or “spirit”?

    1. No, and Jim Jarmusch demands you refrain from any further allusions to his excellent film, Ghost Dog

    2. Yah,Geist ist deutsch fur Ghost

  25. Shooting dogs shows that these thugs (police) have terrible judgement and shouldn’t be allowed to use deadly force.

  26. this is why i prefer cats. i’m shocked there are still dogs alive anywhere….for the time being.

    1. Cats would be harder to hit, and cops are lousy shots.

      1. That’s why you always send the Humane Officers out for kittens. A lot of them moonlight as SWAT snipers.

        1. I have zero heart for cats. If someone showed up with a box of cats and asked me to take care of them, I’d have to clarify if they want them back alive.

          It takes a special kind of cold *and stupid* to shoot kittens right in front of the kids.

  27. The protectiveness of the dog toward his domain was evidence a child was not in the yard.

    The presence of a fence, and the presence of a dog, is evidence of an intention to prevent intrusion. Last week, in a case related to cell phone records, the US Supreme Court upheld the principle that a warrant is required when an expectation of privacy exists. Even WITH a warrant, you don’t shoot an animal as you enter his domain, just as you would not shoot a deaf person who did not obey a spoken instruction.

    A citizen who shoots a neighbor’s dog can spend 20 years in jail. This cruel and calloused violent crime demands criminal charges, and civil penalties, which should cost the City hundreds of thousands of dollars. The police did not shoot this pet in self-defense, but because he was a deterrent to breaking and entering without a warrant.

    It is not disrespectful for the public to hold police responsible for violent criminal behavior. Respect is owed to police when police are doing their duty.

    Killing the beloved pet of an innocent family, especially after breaking and entering without a warrant, or even reasonable suspicion of a crime, is not only the right, but also the duty of the public, to demand justice.

    Calling public outrage over a crime an example of “disrespect” is outrageous.

    1. Well said!

    2. just as you would not shoot a deaf person who did not obey a spoken instruction.

      Looks like somebody doesn’t know about the New Professionalism.

    3. It shouldn’t cost “the city” a dime. The criminal who shot the dog should be imprisoned and have to pay the dog’s owner restitution.

  28. Why didn’t this stupid pig just look over the fence? If he’s looking for a little girl he could just look for her. Everyone knows that entering a dog’s territory will provoke it and it may attack. Pig Olsen should be held accountable – clean out dog cages in the pound for the next 10 years.

  29. Fuck that chief. He deserves every once of shit that is flung at him. Sometime, somewhere, karma will balance the scales. Even if it is just some literal shit thrown at him.

  30. Cops are like Luis Suarez (and Zidane). Incapable of wrong doing.

    They’re outright bloody sociopaths.

  31. I bet if you shot a police dog and claimed self-defense you would go to prison if you were not dead with 100 bullet holes in you.

    1. K-9 officers, just like their human counterparts, are OFFICERS OF THE LAW! How dare you compare the life of an ordinary prole to that of a sworn heroic OFFICER OF THE LAW!

  32. objectify, terrorize and get away with it.

    OTGA, FYTW.

  33. Had a police charity call this morning looking for $1000 (gold level) $750 (silver level) or $500 (bronze level). I badgered the caller about “clicker or ticket” BS. In hindsight, I should have brought up shooting the two women that did not look like Chris Dorner, flash-ban hinging a toddler and this. I’m still probably now in some list (if I wasn’t already).

    1. You need to bring up local shit otherwise they can deflect the criticism as not really about them.

  34. It’s amazing. We have non lethal ways to take down humans. But we have to shoot a defenseless dog. He’s a real friggin Hero.

  35. Militarized, aggressive and abusive policing is not a new thing, and innocent humans are often the victims, not dogs. But maybe animals that can’t speak for themselves more easily evoke sympathy than men, women, and children.

    Actually, that really pisses me off as well, and I’ve brought it up here many times before. There should have been about 50,000 of these assholes storming city hall and hanging the mayor over, for one possible example, the Kelly Thomas beating. Nobody gave a flying fuck about some mentally ill homeless dreck getting senselessly beaten to death on video while pleading for his life. Because he probably had it coming for being weird and icky, amirite? It’s hard to put into words just how morally bankrupt and outright fucked up it is to place more value on the life of a dog than a human being. Just a moral and legal refresher for everybody: your pets aren’t people, they are your property, and anthropomorphizing them makes you mentally ill.

    1. ” Just a moral and legal refresher for everybody: your pets aren’t people, they are your property, and anthropomorphizing them makes you mentally ill.”

      We have a winner. Most illogical comment of the day. Congrats, mate.

      Do you even know what “anthropomorphizing” means? People who care about the lives of innocent creatures are not “anthropomorphizing” them. They are merely defending their right to NOT be killed by a twitchy cop.

      And for the thousandth time, compassion is not a zero sum game. One can empathize with both the death of a human AND the death of a dog. At the same time. Really. It’s totally possible.

      If Chief Burbank spent less time mewling to the media and more time training his officers, perhaps we wouldn’t be having this conversation right now. SLC sure is lucky to have such a thin-skinned police chief in charge.

    2. The Kelly Thomas case made it to trial, thanks to massive popular protests.

      That the cops managed to intimidate the jury into a not-guilty verdict isn’t an indictment of the people in that town.

      Nor is the fact vigilantism didn’t happen (people know what would happen if they tried).

    3. Wow. I think the idiocy of this remark is worsened by the validity of your point about Kelly Thomas.

      I think most people understand that their dogs or cats aren’t humans, you condescending prick. What you seem to have trouble understanding is that a person can respect a living creature, particularly a creature adopted into one’s care as a part of one’s family–for which, by the way, you don’t get to determine the qualifications–and object to the murder of same.

      And, shit, I’ll go you one further. I place as much value on the life of any creature that can make a decision as any other. Meaning, frankly, there are plenty of people I’d have no problem running down in the street because of shitty, harmful things they’ve done to me or my loved ones, whereas the number of dogs on that list is pretty damn low and tends to not grow as fast.

  36. What if instead of the dog, it’d been the missing child in that yard? I think we’d be looking at a shot child.

  37. “He hadn’t sought permission, and he apparently made no effort to back out. But he was there.”

    Because in this case the officer wasn’t required to do either. The courts would back up the police 100% of the time if they are going door to door asking people about the possible commission of a crime. Going inside your house is one thing, going up to your door is another. And an officer doesn’t have to retreat. They can do so but they aren’t required to do so.

    Now did the officer make the right decision in shooting? No idea, I wasn’t there, didn’t see what the officer saw, nor how things unfolded.

    1. The child was found before the officer entered the yard.

    2. Wrong. It wasn’t on his front porch. It was a fenced back yard, with an expectation of privacy. And a child missing is not a crime.

    3. The cop had no warrant, exigent circumstances did not apply, and he’d already ascertained that the homeowner was either unwilling to answer the door or not at home. By any reasonable standard, the cop had a duty to leave the vicinity at that point. Poking around the yard without a warrant becomes trespassing at least if not an illegal search.

  38. Police consider dogs to be property – to no more consequential of life than a bug to be stepped on. Hypothetically they claim that if they back away then if the pursued should get away and do more harm that it will reflect badly on them, the PD, and could result in an loss of innocent (human) life. The only way to stop them (for they won’t constrain themselves) is to create a law that makes shooting innocent dogs in pursuit of a suspect against the law. Additionally, continued outcry and calls for disbanding police as well as people declaring that they won’t call the police when they see a neighbor being robbed (no good turn goes unpunished) will result in the police changing their policies as they begin to worry that without local support they may not get their next pay raise.

    1. Shooting your neighbor’s dog is already against the law. Just apply the penalties to the cop who shot it.

    2. But they don’t consider ALL dogs property. K-9s, for instance, are treated as police officers insofar as penalties for assault against one are concerned. So, it’s just YOUR dogs that are property.

  39. From the Justice for Geist facebook page linked in the article:

    http://www.change.org/petitions/salt-…..ncounters#

  40. I have an issue if this is even an officer. After speaking with dozens of on the job and retired Los Angeles Police officers, and we have seen our share of animal shootings, they all come back with this was a bad call. They have reviewed the press conference which they found to be laughable. Common response was “what not to do in a press conference”.

    So I am going to call b.s. on this piece unless he can produce documentation.

  41. I’m tired of police investigating themselves and finding everything they do to be “justified”. We don’t let criminals investigate themselves. We need citizen review boards to stop this nonsense. Growing up, we almost never heard of pets being killed. Once in a blue moon, a rabid dog would be shot. This is out of hand!

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