Tonight on The Independents: Obama's Foreign Policy, Snowden's Spycraft, Jared Polis on Email Privacy, Adam Sandler's Cinematic Racism, Ferret Freedom, Videotaping Gun Sales, the Drone-Memo Switcheroo, Plus After-Show!

Tonight's live episode of The Independents (Fox Business Network, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT, repeats three hours later) will feature a Party Panel of Washington Free Beacon staff writer Lachlan Markay and Newsday columnist Ellis Henican, who will argue about most of the following topics:
* President Barack Obama's big foreign policy commencement address today at West Point, during which he slayed more strawmen than a pyromaniac, implied that the "drone strikes like those we've carried out in Yemen and Somalia" only come "when we face a continuing, imminent threat, and only where there is no certainty—there is near certainty of no civilian casualties," and gave ammunition to just about everybody who does not appreciate his foreign policy.
* Edward Snowden's revelatory NBC interview, and reactions thereof.
* Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel's idea to require videotaping of gun sales.
* Adam Sandler's allegedly racially offensive new movie.
Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.), no stranger to either The Independents or Reason, then comes on again to discuss The Email Privacy Act, which he has co-sponsored with Reps. Kevin Yoder (R-Kans.) and Tom Graves (R-Ga.), which would require law enforcement to obtain a warrant before scrounging through the six-month-old emails of private citizens. Darin Selnick of Concerned Veterans for America will be on to talk about the damning report released today by the V.A. Inspector General. The co-hosts will have plenty to say about New York Mayor Bill de Blasio's attempt to repeal the city's notorious ferret ban. And did you hear the one about White House officials seeking extra redactions in that drone memo Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) helped pry out of their reluctant hands? Of course you didn't: because David Barron is already safely confirmed, thanks to the Senate votes of alleged civil libertarians who were bought off with the promise of full disclosure.
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I say we boycott < i The Independents until they give us reliable commenting. WHO'S WITH ME?
Swings sickle.
Dammit I've had it!
/throws Horseshack's scarf over shoulder.
Sounds like you're a Blackhawks fan.
*Spits on ground*
I'm my own fan and hero.
/narrows eyes.
Nobody, given how well this comment has worked in the past.
You were able to comment, so the threat worked. You're welcome.
Serious & I were trying to figure out what you guys were on about all day -- neither of us has had any issues.
It just goes to show that love conquers all, even squirrels.
THAT'S BULLSHIT. I'M NOTHING BUT LOVE.
Self love doesn't count.
"I hear that. I spent most of my teen years loving my body. 'Course it was tough love, but..."
We were debating sending you a fruit basket (for talking him into taking the train), but couldn't decide if that was microaggressing you or not.
Fruit basket? I've had just about enough of your homophobia, young lady!
If there are enough pears I will make this. and parlay it into sex.
Walnuts and pecans will be met with violence, or anaphylaxis, not entirely sure yet.
I will refer him to this thread when his plane lands so we can select the perfect way to murder you. Er, thank you. I definitely meant thank you.
Whenever we're silent...shoot a squirrel for us.
It's a few days I can't comment.
It's a few days I can't comment.
I love Canadian. I don't hear it much anymore, now that the winter birds have gone.
Not that anyone misses it.
In Canadian.
I haven't been able to comment all day. Let's see if this gets through.
Ellis Henican. I liked him better when he was Roger Sterling from Mad Men.
+1 doppelganger
Having finished the show, that man is no Roger Sterling.
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel's idea to require videotaping of gun sales.
Rahm should come out from the back during each sale, like Chris Hansen. "Why don't you take a seat over there?"
How about we videotape all of Rahm Emanuel's meetings.
No just the ones where people come to buy him.
Almighty had it right.
Like the one where the donks ask him to be the standard-bearer in 2016? Before they hold the primary that Hilary doesn't run in and Elizabeth Warren plays Howard Dean.
Independents is still on?
...which would require law enforcement to obtain a warrant before scrounging through the six-month-old emails of private citizens.
Jared Polis, in the pocket of the judicial rubber stamp manufacturers lobby.
Edward Snowden's revelatory NBC interview, and reactions thereof.
NBC News edited the interview to include a 911 call in which, when the Bill of Rights told Snowden they didn't need him to gather information on unconstitutional activities, he called the president "a fucking c**n."
You're consistently brilliant, Fist.
I have a lot of pent up brilliance thanks to today's commenting shenanigans. It exploded all over my keyboard.
I do love that fucking is not censored, but coon is.
...thanks to the Senate votes of alleged civil libertarians who were bought off with the promise of full disclosure.
I doubt that's what they were bought off with.
So people will just buy their guns in stores outside of Chicago, right?
Don't they already since there are almost no gun stores in Chicago?
I don't know, I've never been there. So what's the point of the videotaping? I guess to drive whatever stores are in the city out of business, and also CONTROL.
Yup, pretty much. And because fuck you that's why.
You no longer really need gun stores there thanks to the black market. Bonus of no waiting period and no background checks. Illegal gun dealers would like to thank Chicago city government for all their cooperation.
http://bit.ly/1mpWati
He was takin' care of business?
You ain't seen nothin' yet.
Hey you! Life still goes on.
Hopefully Markay or Henican will explain how Glenn Greenwald is a traitor who should be drawn and quartered. I want to see Foster get riled up again.
So we won the Cold War? Is that the president's message?
Give us time.
I would think the West Point plebes would be pro-drone to keep their asses from the permanent Hell of the VHA.
"require videotaping of gun sales."
I kinda actually like this idea. Could we get a greatest hits collection. That look on my face when I got my first 1911 was priceless. Like a little boy looking at a Playboy for the first time. It was beautiful.
GUN GRABBERS GONNA VID!
Go fuck yourself.
Respect your elders, you goddamn little shit!
Where's Sevo when you need him?
Oh and go fuck yourself.
Good idea. I'll make sure to have a boner next time.
I see you got the extended slide model.
I got the HK USC kind. Very extended.
Oh my, me likey.
This was my first.
http://www.stiguns.com/the-sti-spartan-v-2/
Question =
What do you think would be more expensive and time consuming?
Porting the barrel and building an integral suppressor that doesn't require SBR (someone possibly does this as a kit/project), or SBRing the thing and getting a suppressor?
because suppressed 45 carbine sounds like fun.
The former. I know of a place. They also do USC to UMP conversions. Illegal in CA, but whatever.
I think I should have said "less".
because I assume that's the question you answered? is the DIY route really more expensive than the ~700 in taxes and then suppressor & barrel-chop?
What kind of platform are you looking to built a suppressed .45 carbine on?
The HK USC could be a good candidate, but theres a half dozen other things out there (few of which I'd trust much) from Taurus, JRC, HiPoint, Masterpiece Arms, and some retired/discontinued models from Ruger, Marlin. Don't know what pistol caliber carbines are the most reliable (I think Nutnfancy has a vid out on the topic, though)
Could also probably do 9mm with a Sub2K like the below, for reliability and price. My main interest would be to suppress it.
This is all just speculation at the moment, something I'm curious about but never actually looked into that seriously.
The .45, .380, and .32 acp are all generally sub-sonic, and great calibers for suppression... A marlin camp carbine would make an interesting platform for integral suppression.
"because suppressed 45 carbine sounds like fun."
Absolutely
That's bolt action, surprisingly. I know there's some .45 semi carbines out there, but none integrally suppressed.
What I was wondering is why something like this ...
http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.....G0240r.jpg
...needs to cost $2000+ or so when you factor in the tax stamps and suppressor, etc., when all it is a Glock action with a stock and a can on it. (in this case, a Keltec sub2K with a can, but you get what I mean)
In reality, its something a gunsmith should be able to whack together in a day or two, except for all the freaking laws telling them 'not to, or else'.
The Glock version here
"What I was wondering is why something like this .. needs to cost $2000+"
The WOD/WOT, and runaway police armorer budgets, subsidized by the federal gov...
Only what you see, pal.
Nice night for a walk, eh?
Wash day? Nothing clean?
Paxton's best work to date. Except for the bug hunt.
What about Chet in Weird Science?
How 'bout a nice greasy pork sandwich served in a dirty ashtray?
Holy shite. I completely forgot about that. And I didn't think it was a whale's dick, honey.
What, 'Near Dark'?
America's Funniest Gun Buyers
Dr. Dre sells Beats Electronics to Apple for $3 billion
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ent.....z333r2xDHn
So what?
This happened like 2 weeks ago. Buttplug is less relevant than Charles Oliver's Brickbrat
Beats By Dre have done a good job marketing their headphones as a luxury item/status symbol. Probably a good fit with Apple.
Too rational. This is H&R. You're supposed to conjure up some whacky conspiracy theory.
So what?
Are you still a big Truther?
Still? What the fuck are you talking about?
I'm asking why anyone should care that AAPL bought a headphones company. i.e. why should we care?
Go fuck yourself demfag.
"Adam Sandler's allegedly racially offensive new movie"
Thank god we're not going to be spending more than 5 minutes on examining the ridiculousness of Obama's 5Billion$ Anti-Terrorist Sweepstakes, and will instead devoting that appropriate time to "24/7 Celebrity Racism News!!! (Not Your Grandfather's *Yesterday* Celebrity Racism News!!)", which is really what I sit through an hour of screeching Kennedy for.
Really, someone decided after the Donald whatshisname of the LA Clippers thing (*OLD RACISM!! FORGET THAT!! THINK ABOUT JAY Z IN AN ELEVATOR, OR MARK CUBAN! FAST!) that 'Racism' was trending well on Twitter and therefore The Independents needed to include at least 16 minutes to it nightly.
Excuse me if I go blow my nose instead.
Adam Sandler makes nothing but terrible, cynical movies now.
Holy shit, Grown Ups.
I loved Grown Ups. Didn't like 2.
Holy Shit, Adam Sandler is still making movies?
INDEPENDENTS ASSEMBLE!
(late)
It's OK. There's hockey on. Important hockey.
Important hockey
Oxymoron
It involves Los Angeles. It's a BFD, we have no football team.
Because you don't deserve one!
Worst fans ever.
You can't tell me Bettman isn't engineering it so the two biggest television markets in the United States are going to the Finals.
I dunno. Mtl. is annoyingly able to beat NYR. What an egg the Rangers laid last night. Ridiculous.
I don't want to live in a world where the Habs bring the Cup to Canuckistan.
1916
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You're under 21?
...again.
Not only that. 8 other finals and all those legends. Montreal is hockey. The city bleeds it like no other except for maybe Toronto.
The criticism against the Habs is silly.
It happened in the Lakers vs Blazers series years ago. The refs were in on it.
Hawks can't keep up with LA.
Wow, are they strong.
Apparently, they could.
http://www.commentarymagazine......w.facebook
Got this from my friend who is somewhat of an authoritarian Republican.
" I don't find myself saying this much these days, but: John Kerry is right. As NSA defector Edward Snowden has become increasingly insufferable (a condition magnified and exacerbated by his decision to speak through the rage-clenched teeth of Glenn Greenwald), the secretary of state and his diplomatic corps have visibly lost patience with the delusions and deceptions of Russia's newest intel asset."
I find myself saying this constantly these days, but: John Kerry is an insufferable fucking retard.
Prediction: Hoops.
Kennedy flashing more shoulder and arm it seems.
/smirks.
How's that workin out so far?
Beats the weasel. You're doing God's work, Kennedy.
Narrow ties make Foster's head look HUGE.
Still with the teleprompters, eh?
God, I'd be so proud as a soldier to have Obama speak at my West Point commencement.
Poor bastards.
I thought progressives like him HATED unilateral action.
The President doesn't believe anything he says.
He's just talking. Yapping. You can sense he wants to finish up and do something else.
Huge wars? Really? Huge?
Congress helped him remember his plan to not intervene so quickly.
Against complexity?
That's a first.
The camera guy nodded off there for a second.
My guess was epileptic seizure, but it was a quick recovery.
Obama's Doctrine: Black Man's Burden.
Man up? This from a gigolo who married into Ketchup.
Because going through the "appropriate" channels for a whistleblower has worked out so well in the past.
The Obama Administration is at its worst when it's trying to marginalize its political enemies.
Come come so we can throw you in a rape cage for being a patriot.
Fuck you Kerry.
Come come home
Fuck this guy too.
Like an oath to the Constitution and its 4th Amendment?
No, fuck both the guests.
Wow. Who is this pompous ass?
Fuck him.
Can't have people deciding what is right or wrong on their own!
I'm sorry, can we please let Kmele talk for THREE SECONDS?
Markay is making shit up.
Confession: I like Huey Lewis and the News.
I just think of American Psycho.
Their early work was a little too 'new-wave' for my taste, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own - both commercially and artistically.
Yeah, that was a good, fun album.
In '87, Huey released this, Fore!, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. [rapidly, as if agitated] But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself. [raises axe above head] Hey Paul![he bashes Allen in the head with the axe, and blood splatters over him]
TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT DORSIA NOW YOU FUCKING STUPID BASTARD! YOU FUCKING BASTARD!
Psycho.
I Want A New Drug
Huey Lewis = Cornell Graduate
Sports was a great fucking album.
Huey's too black sounding for me
That's back when she was "Crewmember".
Kennedy throws out so many pop culture references that Dennis Miller would be confused and embarrassed.
Hard-hitting news from ABC: Short men are less attractive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR3YR1ZTonc
DAT 80s!
At least someone is reading my emails.
Whilst wearing hazmat suits, yes.
You're thinking of my chat logs.
The NSA team has to be changed out regularly and treated for PTSD, so...
Good Job!
Terrorism can be found in your spam folder.
Over his head that went.
So you can't open my snail mail without a warrant, but email is different.
Fuck the government.
DUDE I TOTALLY WANT TO GOOGLE HANGOUT WITH CONGRESSPEOPLE
http://www.killmenow.com
Yay, Stossel!
Is the captain on a remote feed from the 1970's?
Its a roller disco
Is that polyester?
When I think sane people with opinions that matter, I think MONTEL WILLIAMS!
Money Mutual, or the drug stuff?
The Independents Attire(d) Review, 28 May 2014
'On With The Show'-Edition
- Kennedy: Clearly Kennedy is dressed like a blooming cotton boll, and you know what Cotton means, right? = SLAVES. Clearly this is intended to send a message about how black men are a threat to white women. Despite the blatant racist overtones of Kennedy's sleeveless top, we appreciate bare flesh as much as anybody. We also think a plain white tank top and Daisy Dukes would be perfectly OK to wear on the show. Why the hell not? At least it will distract us from...
- Matt: We've already prayed for the death of the 3-button black suit. Maybe if Matt continues to drag it out someone besides me will tell him that it looks like shit. For the love of God, just let it die. And also toss the pink shirt for a few months to at least regain your senses. Rehab, dude. You can't rely on people like Jared Polis to keep making you look 'less awful'.
- Kmele: The Man of Many Sport Coats brings out another unseen one. The lapels here are super-narrow to the point of being almost 'odd'; that he manages to pull it together with a similar skinny-tie and short-button collar just goes to show that Kmele can take almost any combo and find its Feng Shui happiest-place.
ARE YOU TOTAllY AMPED FOR HOW RACIST ADAM SANDLERS THING IS OMG ME TOO?!
Thank You
The senior staff isn't causing the problems...
The lack of profit motive is causing the problems.
Altogether now.
FAKE.
SCANDAL!!!
Have I mentioned I love Kmele?
So disappointing to see the USA - a society so proud of its military heritage - treat its Vets like this. Canada is barely better - if at all.
Looks like soldiers are disposable.
I read about a Canadian guy who spent 1 day in the Army. He was inducted, rode a ferry to an induction station, flunked an eye test, and then was discharged.
He later sued for his veteran's benefits.
Gimme a few minutes to find it.
No luck yet, but I did find this article where the Canadian govt claims soldiers are not part of the social contract:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politic.....-1.2577053
No luck yet, but I did find this article where the Canadian govt claims soldiers are not part of the social contract:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politic.....-1.2577053
Yeah.
The treatment of the military by the Liberals throughout the 1990s was beyond shameful.
Yet the fucking derps on the CBC threads are acting all pissed about the conservatives on this issue. They didn't seem to mind when Chretien GUTTED the military.
Kennedy babbles for 2 mins then barely added a question to the end
How is applying "vista" to your product's name good marketing?
Welch is jealous.
Friday's theme show will be Kennedy and Welch trying to book a lane.
Who are these people they are talking about?
Yes, Foster, let them their privacy. That's what they want.
Jesus Christ, Kennedy. THE FUCKING KARDASHIANS? Fuck me.
L.A. 4 Chicago 3.
Impressive.
Skynet started out driving Miss Daisy.
Bring back the AMC Pacer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcl98aBRkD8
Fuck a driverless car.
I'll definitely have one if I can drink and ride.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=h5sOCEUpGZI
"Kernel panic... Google car crashing in 3..2.."
Well, that's embarrassing.
At least 4 bits threw better than Obummer.
BOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!!1111ELEVEnty
Guys, I'm tired of everything. Tired of working for corporations that feel like cults, tired of politics, tired of everyone in life thinking they know how I should live my life, what I should eat, who I should fuck, where I should go, and tired of everyone being outraged about everything yet solving nothing.
I cannot.be.the.only one so fatigued by this ridiculous rut our society is.in. Can we just start over or maybe get a Lunar colony or something interesting for a change?
I was at a big.company.meeting today and our CEO asked the room, "are you excited?" No, I'm mot excited, and I have a hard.time seeing.why you're excited. Let's just do business, and not worry about whether.it's exciting, okaay?
ARE YOU FIRED UP?
Nope,.just tired. Tired of playing the game. Ain't it a crying shame? I'm so tired. Goddammit, I'm exhausted.
What can we do to pull you out of this funk?
It'll probably get better when invisible furry hand posts some typically perky story about murderous fauna from Down Under tomorrow morning.
I don't know where you stand on age/position/type of work but for me, I started taking some classes in a completely unrelated field and getting involved in my field's professional associations. So nice to talk with non-coworker colleagues generally and get to know others outside of my usual orbit. And the classes may lead to a completely different career path eventually or a backup backup option.
The kool aid drinking and rah-rah is still annoying but it's much less grating. I'm also fortunate to work with a couple of people who see through the BS.
"Tired of playing the game."
That's why I quit my day job, raised my kid for a couple of years, racked up some debt and started a business, invested in another - all away from traffic.
Best move I ever did.
I hated networking and wanted to barf in boardroom meetings.
Also got tired of wearing suits.
Sounds like what I want...consulting and.problem solving is.my blood. Day in and day out corporate BS is not, by a.long shot. If I hear the word "sustainability" again in the next week I'll probably puke.
Yeah. I have almost a quarter century working for huge, global corporate entities and hear you lumpy chicken.
Today I started working with an old buddy to build his business into handling a new industry - so I'll be hustling for the next 6 months to a year minimum. I probably won't be here so often but plan to check in off and on.
Been running my own small biz for six years now and vastly prefer it to having to listen to some asshole drone on at a meeting.
I'm Tired
+1 more schnitzengruben
+15 is my limit on schnitzengruben.
Are you tired of extraneous periods? :-p
Let's face it, everything below the waist is kaput.
Nice marmot.
That was hilarious with Giuliano.
Giuliani.
Remember this is the same Kmele Foster who was all about dog fighting a few months ago. (At least that's how I remember it.)
Matt, trying hard not to 'other' ferret owners..
Ferrets and Medieval art.
http://www.doctorbeer.com/joyc.....histpg.htm
I find the gradual but steady increase in both total number and pace of bipartisan pro-civil liberties legislative efforts really heartening. It marks and further potentiates a shift.
I believe Kmele might have a neurosis involving ferrets.
They clearly reserve the quality discussion-time for Ferrets.
Because Obama's foreign policy? No, lets just babble incoherently about *that*, and then cut the discussion short at 120 seconds...
Ferrets? They can go on for *days* about those little cuties. Let's learn some Ferret Facts, why don't we?!
It feels like the Today Show, but at night!
Jack Hannah is still alive. Maybe he could bring in a real live ferret for Kennedy to pet.
Shut it. Watching Foster squirm was quite delightful.
Kathie and Hoda Lee, TV's first openly lesbian couple!
Panel Guests! Less interesting than Ferrets!
Slut-shaming gun buyers...
Better or worse than gun-shaming slut buyers?
That sounds like a confusing, fun situation.
Both are fundamentally wrong on sooo many levels, but.. *Disclaimer* I'm an advocate for the slut-buyers chamber of commerce. I don't want to be denounced as a slut industry shill later on...
I'd like him to define "hoodlum", because I'm sure it would involve some nice racism.
Did I mention this guy fuck him?
"New Orleans has horrible crime."
Because New Orleans has horrible everything?
I had guns when I lived in Chicago. I bought them in Kane Co., IL and brought them in. When I bought the first one and the clerk asked to see my DL, he said "gonna piss off Rahm Emmanuel, huh?"
Never bring Ellis back.
Fuck him.
Real "complex" thinking buddy.
As complex as herpes.
Intentions for the win.
Oh, Kmele. How do you keep making me love you even more?
Way to take such a morally courageous stand, shitstain..
Henican is trying to frame the debate and he's not doing it well.
I could kill a lot more people with incendiary devices then with guns.
+1 Molotov cocktail..
+1 can of gasoline in front of an illegal nightclub with no fire exits.
Happy Land Social Club
Julio Gonzalez,after getting his ass kicked by a bouncer, applies and ignites a couple of bucks worth of gasoline to the only exit to the club and kills 87.
If he had a gun most of those people would still be alive.
Fuck. Good going Kennedy.
He's retarded.
WHY DO YOU WANT CRAZY PEOPLE TO HAVE MACHINE GUNS!?
He did the crazy eyes to, did you see em?
Because Machine Guns and Crazy People are both a lot of fun?
Cherry-picking for the win. Utah has the lowest gun homicide rate, I believe.
Cherry-picking for the win. Utah has the lowest gun homicide rate, I believe.
I thought he was gonna pull out 'at least do it for the children.'
Man, you Peanuts are so Bad-Ass with your snarky anti-government quippery!
Go fuck yourself.
Yes. It's 'anti-government.'
And I'm gonna marry a carrot.
/rolls eyes.
Tell us again how awesome Obama is, bootlicker.
PB
94% was it?
I don't think that test was what you think it was.
DON"T YOU AGREE THAT BAZOOKAS THAT SHOOT AIDS ARE WRONG FOR EVERYONE?
Then why do you keep wanting to "reduce" our Gun Laws?!
It's like you invented it!
Booooooosh?!?!!
Nice job Kennedy pointing out the 'assault weapon' sillyness.
Point: NYC gun laws have not changed significantly since 1991 when they had 2500 homicides. It ain't the laws.
For Mr Prog, opposing new gun laws is the same as wanting crazy people to have guns. There is a phrase for this, and it rhymes with claw pan gargle mint.
You get the payoff before delivering on your side.
They're democrats
Every time.
AH! Lou Dobbs.
It seems like they try and fit like 5 minutes of 'Serious TV' into the very end of the show.
They could cut 50% of the content out, let kmele talk more, and the show would improve by 500%
That would cut into Ferret Time.
I hope they read this & take it to heart.
Foster, McInnes and Moynihan would be a hit show. Kennedy and Welch are ratings killers.
Welch is actually a great host and an idea moderator based on the week he ran the show. Kennedy is problematic as a host since she inserts herself into the discussions too much.
Welch goes all beta when Kennedy is in the house.
Agreed.
WHY DO YOU ALL WANT GODZILLA TO DESTROY AMERICA? OUR GUN LAWS ARE WORKING
Holey Fuck! That was the worst thing I've heard in a while. WTF did you spend so much time on Ferrats and barely mention that shit at the end.
C"MON!!
This one is Kodo and this one is Podo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNdGn-9W0ZY
The entire aftershow is going to be Foster losing his shit over the idea of ferrets as pets.
Wham bang, sweet Pyongyang
I'm very sorry, I shouldn't have said that.
It's whang dang, sweet Pyongyang
Wang
So, what do you guys think about, oh, ferrets, for example?
LET FOSTER OR WELCH HANDLE THIS.
So while going through the security at Tucson airport the TSA lady checking my boarding pass and ID said I did not look like my Hispanic last name or my middle name of Armando.
Was I microaggressed? I feel if I wrote an angry blog post expressing my anguish and hurt would it be something the Huffington Post or Salon picks up and runs.
You could start a lucrative side business writing articles about this sort of situation. It might pay for your visits!
Fuck you, I was accused of "probably sympathizing with terrorists because of an irish last name".
Admittedly, the person saying this was 80+yrs old, and worked in 'security' at Palm Springs airport, and I felt bad for the old guy. (everyone in Palm Springs is ancient. Its like a zombie movie without the brain-eating)
I told him I get that a lot, and we both laughed and I asked him whether there'd be a problem with sneaking alcohol on the plane. of course there was no problem, but he spent 20 mins talking about how I should hide it because he was lonely and wanted to talk to someone.
Henican can't get past the idea that Top Men aren't making all the decisions.
I.
Want.
Why is no one able to rebut retard Ellis?
Ellis = if a "lowish level' guy is in a position to *be able* to release 'crucial national security information', then the fact is that the 'national security' is being grossly mismanaged by the administration if some fucking retarded kid can get access to it.
You don't blame the kid, dumbass, you blame the candy store for having no locks on the door.
This is completely aside from the fact that *what* he disclosed is NOT information that put Americans 'at risk'
Its information about rampant violations of the constitution by the government being done in secret.
Why the hell can no one say this?
The Snowden bashing isn't really about Snowden, it is about defending this administration and the criminal actions of this government.
And our 'Oprah After Dark' crew sees no reason to dispute the guys lies.
Hell, they ought to invite Tony and let him blather all night!
This Snowden basher is a journalist?
To.
This fellow is proving, once again, that he is a tool!
Thanks for getting in the way Bob and Not.
Tanks fir natting.
And Gil.
Win.
You
This.
Are
Thread.
Welcome?
To the jungle?
Why?
Do fools fall in love?
Do birds suddenly appear?
Can't this be love?
"You lose"
Jesus. Let Welch make his fucking point.
Go, Kennedy, step all over your co-host!
"Shut the fuck up, Donnie Matt"..
/Kennedy
Again = the aftershow is 3X more substantive than the actual show.
WHAT THE FUCK
they even let each other talk!
24 already handled all these questions.
Snowden will likely never see a jury, though.
I hope Ellis gets dick cancer
Laughing quite hard at this.
Dick cancer is no laughing matter.
/And that's one to grow on...
I have found the most offensive human being on Earth.
...What's this?
Uh...
Hey, professor. What's your next project?
No. No, I'm not sure it's any good.
No! You don't say.
Well, thank God you came up with a less divisive term than slavery!
Maybe he's hoping people will hate-buy his books.
Just wondering, are white NCAA players exploited as well? And were blacks that big a component in the NCAA's early years?
Anyone who uses the term "treachery" for casual social situations is a huge douchebag.
The Art of Trolling:
The revolution begins to eat its own -
"Jody Hall owns Cupcake Royale, a collection of seven neighborhood coffee shops [in Seattle] that sell artisan cupcakes and ice cream. She employs about 100 people.
"...She was an early supporter of the Mayor [of Seattle] Ed Murray's plan to reach a $15 minimum wage within two years, with a seven-year phase in for small businesses.
"But after publicly endorsing his efforts, she is having serious second thoughts. "...this is keeping me up at night like nothing ever has."...
"But Hall's biggest issue is the possibility that an even more aggressive minimum wage package will succeed at the polls. The group 15Now is collecting signatures for a charter amendment. It would require big businesses to pay $15 an hour immediately, with a three-year phase-in for small businesses, like Hall's, and no tip credit.
"That would be devastating to her business, according to Hall. She guesses that half of her locations would close and about 50 people would lose their jobs."
http://kuow.org/post/minimum-w.....ners-night
The ellipsis should be *before* the opening quotes in "this is keeping"
HAAAAAAA!!!
The greatest cure to progressive politics is their *actual implementation into reality*
They work great when its all about shithead college kids protesting or academics fulminating in think tanks, but you give these morons the chance to Run Shit, it all blows up in their face.
The ACA is held together with string and lies. The government is still figuring out new ways to keep feeding Insurance companies money to prevent them from the inevitable premium increases that will cause the death cycle.
"OMG, you guyz, like economic regulations have like consequences on businesses and stuff?!?!?11"
Guess who else is doing a panel show?
http://thestagblog.com/politic.....tics-ep-1/
Don't talk post clips about Lucy!
As longtime H&R commenters any of us would be celebrity star guests on that panel.
http://m.independent.ie/lifest.....13620.html
Apparently now all deniers will suffer dementia
I'm sure the methodology behind it is flawless.
If nobody else is around, I suppose I'll just turn up the volume on the radio, walk around in my underpands, and post this Lincoln story -
""I Have Never Been Up"
"The persistent, powerful meme of Abraham Lincoln as a "failure at 50.""
http://www.slate.com/articles/.....erful.html
I'll stick an update of this on the morning links, but the CA state legislature tells SF it can't have an "Anti Going Out of Business Law"
http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05el.....form-bill/
Yep, landlords can go out of business just like stores!
I wonder why landlords in SF would *want* to go out of business? It has me baffled.
..."It was an interesting piece, with its tales of would-be renters spending months pounding the pavements, of dozens of desperate applicants arriving at a newly offered apartment, trying to impress the landlord with their credentials. And yet there was something crucial missing -- specifically, two words I knew had to be part of the story."
You'll never guess who;
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/06.....ffair.html
It was some former Enron advisor.
The kind of a guy who figures the old, tired rules of econ don't apply!
Debt? Who cares?
Holee Shit!
Krugnutz actually argued for a freer market? Did someone punk him?
His NYT account was hacked, they'll fix it in the morning..
Leno said. "And for no cause, for no reason, they are being evicted."
Uncle Tom Sowell might have mentioned a reason for this a time or two.
Thanks for link, Sevo.
Has anyone considered that there is software bubble? That's what drives the SF and surrounding economy now.
My wife's, daughter's, ex-boyfriend is getting payed $30/hr to write Python code for some startup company during the summer break. He attends UC Berkeley. Meanwhile, Python doesn't have a CASE statement, static data, or enumerated data types. It's slightly better than FORTRAN-IV, though.
Now I'm drinking milk straight out of the carton, dripping potato chip crumbs on the carpet, and posting Civil War articles.
"Tobey Maguire and producing partner Matthew Plouffe have acquired movie rights to Peter Carlson's book "Junius and Albert's Adventures in the Confederacy: A Civil War Odyssey."
"The book tells the story of two Northern journalists working for the pro-abolitionist New York Tribune ? Junius Henri Browne and Albert Deane Richardson ? who were caught by Confederate soldiers and imprisoned in seven different prison camps over 20 months before escaping from North Carolina in late 1864."
http://variety.com/2014/film/n.....201195348/
Hey, guess who's back!
"The world's most controversial superhero has returned to battle male circumcision, and this time the enemy is in Southeast Asia. Foreskin Man's latest adventure leads him to a hideout in the Philippines, where a group of bloodthirsty nurses are plotting a mass circumcision in an abandoned Manila slaughterhouse....
""Operation Tuli is state sponsored assault against children," said [writer Matthew] Hess. "It's an annual tradition where boys as young as five years old are forcefully taken by their parents to government funded facilities to have their genitals mutilated en masse. Promoters of this practice claim that tuli turns boys into men, but in reality, all it does is steal their innocence and leave them disfigured for life.""
http://intactnews.org/node/478.....hilippines
Dear Independents
The next time anyone brings up gun regulation, and how sad it is that we cant keep the Assault Weapons out of the hands of The Crazies, please explain to said liars/morons that
a) if that were true, its not because of 'Background checks' which are already done for every single type of firearm, 'assaulty' or not, and
b) the problem as they themselves define it is due to the fact that health records are private. They implicitly seem to assume they are not. They are = if they want background checks to also cover 'mental health' outside of actual 'commitment' or 'have a record of being violent', then that requires a significant change to HIPPA - NOT current firearms laws at all.
to REPEAT -
- We ALREADY DO background checks
- what those checks cover is an issue in HEALTH LAW
So let them go out and fight with the healthcare industry and all the legal issues therein and proceed to get their ass handed to them.
The fact that they continue to claim that "MOAR GUN LAWS"! are needed - yet can not explain how they'd actually work - reveals that they don't actually care about the problem they even define. They are using the 'mental health' canard to simply aim for MORE RESTRICTIONS on non-crazy everyone else.
repeat = they are liars who don't care about crazy people getting guns. They want more restrictions FOR ALL. regardless of crime or mental health issues.
Thank you
"repeat = they are liars who don't care about crazy people getting guns. They want more restrictions FOR ALL. regardless of crime or mental health issues."
Yeah, Tony, shreek, the road guy, commie-kid, the mass-guy; they all post here regularly.
Every one is equally a hypocrite and every one claims otherwise and rinse and repeat.
Injured wally-world guy really pissed they aren't giving him paid leave:
"Roger's family says he's sick from "smelling feces and urine all day." Carl had to pause when speaking to cameras, growing upset as he said, "I just ... sorry. I just can't believe that somebody would do that to somebody. It's just not, it's unreal to me." The family says that Roger, understandably, feels embarrassed and degraded."
And how did this come about?
"Roger's brother, Carl Digilormo, says he was hurt on the job at Walmart and was on light duty until he recovers from a shoulder injury, so instead of lighting heavy boxes, Walmart had him monitor the bathroom."
(link too long; AOL has it, so Huffpo prolly does also)
And obviously, he was in no way "forced"; he could have simply taken the time off *without pay*.
Sooo... The philistine shoppers of Wal-Mart figuratively martyred this poor man. They threw feces at him, and sprayed him with urine because he wanted a living wage... Is $25.00 an hour plus 4 weeks paid vacation, and access to the corporate condo in Barbados really too much to ask for? Can you really put a price on dignity?
Social Justice? NOW!!1!.. Anyway, what happened?
"Can you really put a price on dignity?"
I LIKE it!
"Can you really put a price on dignity?"
I went to Walmart this past Sunday, as I do once per year. I was only going to buy a gift card for my sister who is severely mentally ill. But I ended up grabbing some tennis balls that were on sale as well, a lot of them. The tennis balls and I did not make it to the check-out stand together.
"Let me get you a cart, sweety"
Oh god you're one of those people. I'll never understand why you substitute that, since it's not funny and never has been, and there are more syllables.
It's like you're actually doing more work just to show how fucking lame you are.
Rowr!.. fttt! fttt!
wally-world is ALWAYS funny.
Moose hater.
Jeeze, sorry!
We buy fifty bucks worth of puppy toys and her favorite?
A one-gallon, empty, plastic milk container.
On the bright side... that $50 bucks worth of puppy toys will remain in pristine condition when you give then away..
That is probably the one that gets the right reaction from Mom n Dad.
Yer lucky it wasn't a dead rat she found.
Is it 1984 yet? Will you know when it is?
http://www.peikoff.com/2013/08.....-national/
The list Eric Snowden scarfed is coming out. Will you be on it? What if your friend is, but you aren't?
I hope John Kerry is on it.