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Politics

Tonight on The Independents: Red Meat Wednesday, With Katherine Mangu-Ward, TV's Andy Levy, Chris Moody on Yesterday's Election, the Co-hosts on #StandWithRand2, and Two Minutes Hate!

Matt Welch | 5.21.2014 3:02 PM

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Tonight's episode of The Independents (Fox Business Network, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT, repeats three hours later) starts off with Party Panelists Katherine Mangu-Ward and Red Eye co-host Andy Levy, who will be chewing on most of the following topics: 1) President Barack Obama's public response today to the Veterans Administration health-care fiasco; 2) the number of people who claim disability in the United States reaching near 11 million; 3) former National Football League players suing the NFL for giving them unprescribed drugs; 4) alarming news that parents are naming their babies "Kale."

The great Yahoo News political reporter Chris Moody will join to make sense out of last night's election results. The co-hosts will talk about the comparatively muted (but no less righteous) #StandWithRand 2.0, and then vote on which statement was more ridonkulous—Rep. Joe Garcia (D-Fla.) saying that El Paso's low crime rate proves that "communism works," or Donna Brazile's recent Tweet saying:

"Imagine no possessions. I wonder if you can. No need for greed or hunger. Imagine all the ppl sharing the world." John Lennon #RaiseTheWage

Speaking of hashtags, your very favorite segment, Two Minutes Hate, is back. Whom among you shall be quoted?

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  1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

    "2 minutes of hate"

    Get your comments in early, boys.

    1. Grand Moff Serious Man   11 years ago

      They're probably filming today's episode and Friday's episode right now, so too late.

      1. BigT   11 years ago

        Likely already finished when they put this up so Matt can go whoring, Kennedy can join the mile high club on her way back to VA, and Kmele can snort a bowl of coke.

        1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

          So the black guy uses coke?

    2. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

      This'll be my third straight TI miss while still in country.

  2. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    Pourquoi, Welch, perche?

    I hate you.

  3. Grand Moff Serious Man   11 years ago

    The co-hosts will talk about the comparatively muted (but no less righteous) #StandWithRand 2.0

    I suppose it's less notable because the Dems just needed a simple majority to pass cloture. I watched the vote live on CSPAN.

    Bernie Sanders and Ron Wyden both voted yes on the nomination. So much for principles.

    , and then vote on which statement was more ridonkulous?Rep. Joe Garcia (D-Fla.) saying that El Paso's low crime rate proves that "communism works," or Donna Brazile's recent Tweet saying:

    "Imagine no possessions. I wonder if you can. No need for greed or hunger. Imagine all the ppl sharing the world." John Lennon #RaiseTheWage

    Sure Donna, I'll be right over to your place today so you can "share" your stuff with me. You have a lot more than I do so check your privilege.

    1. Brett L   11 years ago

      I think we can all agree that if whatshisname said he shot Lennon because of Imagine, it would still be horrible, but not incomprehensible.

      1. mr simple   11 years ago

        "We send thousands of boys to Vietnam to fight the commies and it's a good thing but I shoot one and it's a crime?" - Mark David Chapman

      2. Whahappan?   11 years ago

        I can't remember the exact quote, but Dennis Leary had a line in his stand-up days to the effect of "six shots and not one of them hit Yoko?!?!"

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

      John Lennon's net worth

  4. Jerry on the sea   11 years ago

    Imagine no possessions. I wonder if you can.

    Alas, someone took away my mind.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    The vote seems to be between a quote about communism and a quote about El Paso.

    1. Grand Moff Serious Man   11 years ago

      El Paso proves the need for gun control and immigration reform.

      1. Soros' Wank-noose   11 years ago

        Don't forget chimp control.

      2. Almanian!   11 years ago

        Excellent

  6. BakedPenguin   11 years ago

    Damn, I've only been one TMH the one time. I need to start upping my game.

    You know why Kennedy could never be on ESPN's Pardon the Interruption? Because she never asks for pardon.

    No, that sucks.

    1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

      Sometimes the interruptions get so bad, I put the show on mute and listen to my wife.

      1. GILMORE   11 years ago

        THAT is good material right there.

        Well done sir.

  7. OldMexican   11 years ago

    Tonight on The Independents

    3:02 PM

    Aren't we getting a little ahead of ourselves, guys?

    1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

      They need material for the 2 minutes of hate. They were scraping the bottom of the barrel last time.

      1. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

        Maybe we can get them to put it on at Green Hut Cafe and we can shout abuse at the TV.

        Did you invite Shackford, BTW?

        1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

          Oops, doing it right now.

        2. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

          Done.

  8. OldMexican   11 years ago

    There are times I think that The Independents becomes the forum for Kennedy to make strange and unusual challenges such as the one she made to Rick Santorum when she dared him to cite a single libertarian that argued against the existence of government.

    Hoppe? Rothbard? Block?

    1. Christophe   11 years ago

      Maybe she just wanted to stump the bastard, even if the question does have an answer?

  9. OldMexican   11 years ago

    "Imagine no possessions. I wonder if you can. No need for greed or hunger. Imagine all the ppl sharing the world." John Lennon

    How irony-impaired must a person be to conflate the Lennon song which asks "No need for greed..." while at the same time linking to a hashtag that says "RaiseTheWage"?

    What, when people ask for higher wages it is NOT because they're NOT greedy, all of a sudden?

  10. OldMexican   11 years ago

    By the way, you should read the entry at the Rational Wiki on Anarcho-capitalism just to give yourselves a little dose of unintentional humor.

    Let's just say that the "Rational" part of the Wiki is nowhere to be seen.

    1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

      Add that to the list of words co-opted by progies.

  11. Soros' Wank-noose   11 years ago

    TI should just get it over already and have Myerson and Santorum duel to the death, in-studio, for the TMH. Maybe one of them could wear ear-hoops.

  12. Army of the 12 Monkeys   11 years ago

    Instead of hate mail, we should get caught-up on Bernie MaxSmith's trouble adapting to newly-single life. I think I read somewhere on the interwebz that he's been crashing at Gavin McInnes' place, which could well be pushing his sanity to the brink.

  13. Francisco d'Anconia   11 years ago

    INDEPENDENTS ASSEMBLE!

    1. Bam!   11 years ago

      REASON, THREAD BUMP!

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        Forget it, Bam. It's Reasontown.

    2. Grand Moff Serious Man   11 years ago

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQcUyhoxTg

      1. Max Power   11 years ago

        Relevant to tonight's episode

      2. Specail Sauce   11 years ago

        Needs more cowbell.

  14. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    Only the truly desperate are going to find the thread way down here.

    1. Specail Sauce   11 years ago

      +1 Me

    2. Slammer   11 years ago

      *sneaks in, looks around*

    3. Dances-with-Trolls   11 years ago

      After the non-stop nut-punches today's Reason has been I went looking for it. This is relief. How sick is that?

  15. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Is this an anti nut punch?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKQSPk-Egc4

  16. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Is this an anti nut punch?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKQSPk-Egc4

    1. Derpetologist   11 years ago

      Nut punches from squirrels are the worst.

      1. Slammer   11 years ago

        Claws!

    2. Dances-with-Trolls   11 years ago

      It will make anon-bot happy at least.

    3. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

      Every man's death diminishes me, for I am involved in mankind. Therefore, send not to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.

      -John Donne

  17. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Prediction: Hooops.

    1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      Not a very bold prediction. Unless you mean Cavuto in which case, fairly bold.

    2. Slammer   11 years ago

      And fake alligator skin?

  18. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    A slam poem about slam poems about rape:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wu7Ax78hXo

  19. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    A slam poem about slam poems about rape:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wu7Ax78hXo

    1. Dweebston   11 years ago

      Rape Poem To End All Rape Poems

      If only.

  20. Bam!   11 years ago

    Lizard skin is back.

    1. Slammer   11 years ago

      And nothing on underneath, I bet.

  21. Specail Sauce   11 years ago

    She's wearing a carpet.

  22. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    A tuxedo and a picnic blanket.

  23. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Hannity is not a smart man, and yet he always manages to find progs who make him look like a genius:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozR72rVR2NY

    1. NebulousFocus   11 years ago

      Hannity is fucking terrible.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    He should bite his lip, otherwise how do we know he feels our pain?

  25. Grand Moff Serious Man   11 years ago

    I actually think the purple hair works for KMW.

  26. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    What? Was KMW leaning over a pain bucket earlier today? Was she throwing up in a toilet with colored bowl cleaner? Was she huffing but doing it wrong?

    1. Bam!   11 years ago

      I didn't even notice the purple hair. I thought it was part of her shirt or a scarf or something.

    2. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

      What's a pain bucket?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        I have a cold.

        1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

          I thought it was where they collected the blood spilled during the interrogation.

          "Did you take Bob's lunch out of the fridge? DID YOU?"

      2. Pathogen   11 years ago

        You don't want to know..

  27. Dances-with-Trolls   11 years ago

    So is it me or is this the best segment that TI has ever done?

    1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      You just like that Foster has barely been acknowledged. Racist.

  28. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    No, I get it now. Her hair is chameloid and trying to match her blouse.

    1. poloniusium   11 years ago

      I'm looking forward to GILMORE's analysis of Kennedy's top.

      1. Slammer   11 years ago

        And KMW's hair...which I like.

  29. Specail Sauce   11 years ago

    Pain Bucket 🙂

    1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      Yeah.

      1. Specail Sauce   11 years ago

        I'd buy their album.

  30. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    All this wonky discussion...what about celebrity catfights?

  31. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    My old man just got in the VA system and so far he's okay with it. But he's just in the checking his health out phase.

  32. poloniusium   11 years ago

    THE GRAPH!

  33. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Is Matt going to tell me more about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints?

    1. Specail Sauce   11 years ago

      No Solicitors!

  34. Slammer   11 years ago

    Matt's jacket actually looks like a tuxedo top.

  35. Bam!   11 years ago

    Wait, was Bernie wearing cowboy boots? Did he go Brokeback after his divorce?

    1. Bobarian   11 years ago

      Why do you think he got divorced?

  36. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    Hey man, if you guys want a Canadian to clean up your mess I don't mind being told I eat babies and don't care for people.

  37. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    I hate Bernie's boots. And I don't even acknowledge footwear, that's how bad they are.

  38. poloniusium   11 years ago

    So how does the aftershow work? I kept seeing old aftershows when I went to their site.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      Well, first of all, the actual show is still going on. Second, you have to click on the "Watch Live" link. And last, this episode was pretaped back in March so no live aftershow tonight.

    2. Slammer   11 years ago

      Go here after the show, there should be a pop-up for the after show, or a link to it

      1. poloniusium   11 years ago

        oh. popup, that's probably the problem. Thanks.

    3. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      They don't do them every night. If they're not actually doing a live after-show I think you get a re-run.

    4. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      http://video.foxbusiness.com/v.....show-clips

      I use that.

  39. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Protester asks why man has a right to his own money:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD809fp6i_0

  40. Grand Moff Serious Man   11 years ago

    Anyone else think Katherine Mangu-Ward looks a lot like Maggie Gyllenhaal?

    1. Francisco d'Anconia   11 years ago

      A bit.

  41. Apatheist ?_??   11 years ago

    The one day I can watch and the thread is buried.

  42. poloniusium   11 years ago

    This guy doesn't know where he is.

  43. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    So does this guy want a singular message or not? I'm getting mixed signals.

    1. BiMonSciFiCon   11 years ago

      He doesn't have a dog in the fight, I don't think. Pretty sure he's a libertarian.

  44. Apatheist ?_??   11 years ago

    Yes, they are that lacking in principles.

  45. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Read some of the things I've said about Mitch, but he ain't getting my money.

  46. Bam!   11 years ago

    "Win at any cost?" So literal team politics; doesn't matter what happens so long as our team is the ones doing it.

    1. poloniusium   11 years ago

      It seems like it's just a roundabout way of saying that the tea party movement has been co-opted and exhausted.

      1. BigT   11 years ago

        Or the establishment just learned how to use some of the same issues, neutering the T party's novelty.

        1. Bobarian   11 years ago

          The fact that Mitch McConnell had to campaign for the primary says that the TP isn't quite dead.

  47. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    What? we're getting both? I thought we were voting on the communist quote we're going to talk about.

  48. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    What's with the beta male among all the high-powered businesswomen?

    1. Derpetologist   11 years ago

      I thought they were real estate agents.

  49. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    Why, hello there, annoying Volvo voiceover lady!

  50. GILMORE   11 years ago

    iThe Independents Attire Review, 21 May 2014

    Teenage ?bermensch-Edition

    - Kennedy: AAAHHHA!! We came expecting 'pink' - instead, we get "Attack of the Poison-Iguana Woman"?? The Chinese collar adds to the whole, 'Evil Asian Temptress' look. It needs oversized fake-gold fingernails dripping poison, a tongue spike, and a lot of incense burning around her. This isn't 'a dress' or 'an outfit' - this is "someone's going to a costume party".

    - Matt: GAHHH!!?!? A FUCKING TUX? What the hell is going on here? Opera night? Does he do Wednesday night playing in a wedding band? Maybe Kennedy and Matt are part of some amateur James Bond theatre production. Matt will have to ditch the glasses and also take up smoking if so. I hope he knows how to play Baccarat.

    - Kmele: ...uh. OK, good. Fuck, I was SO expecting something like 'a viking costume'. Instead, another variation on the 'plaid shirt sub-sportcoat'. Again, I think when he uses the mono/bi-chromatic shirts it can work really well; what I'm less crazy about are the tri-color+ plaids that get a little funky.

    - KMW: Ok, now we have a rejected member of the upcoming X-Men film. Dazzler, maybe? Something in my brain says 'Stevie Nicks' even though I'm not sure there's any logical connection there at all.

    - "TV's"-Andy: I now get the impression that maybe Kmele and Andy weren't invited to "the party".

    Any explanations for tonight's attire-oddities are welcomed.

    Dankesch?n

    1. Army of the 12 Monkeys   11 years ago

      I agree, though I would nominate Kennedy as the Bond Villain of this show. And Matt may be overcompensating for past wardrobe choices.

  51. Winston   11 years ago

    So if you had a choice between the US being turned into a military dictatorship with some soconish elements or a Communist dictatorship which would you prefer?

    1. Pathogen   11 years ago

      Cyanide...

      1. Winston   11 years ago

        Wise choice.

    2. GILMORE   11 years ago

      I'd flee to Somalia, libertarian-paradise.

    3. Francisco d'Anconia   11 years ago

      Is there a difference between the two?

      1. Winston   11 years ago

        The former might have a lower body count?

    4. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      Revoluci?n.

      1. Winston   11 years ago

        So the latter?

  52. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    The Five Stairsteps?

  53. Winston   11 years ago

    Also I would be more optimistic with the anti-cop sentiment if previous anti-cop fueled revolutions lead to something better. Like wishing for some Bastille-type rebellion which you know led to Robespierre and Napoleon...

  54. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Communists never do well when they don't control the message.

  55. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    Don't communists love building walls?

    1. Winston   11 years ago

      Need to keep the fascists saboteurs from entering and emigration that steals from the collective!

    2. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      Mr. Firefly, tear down this wall.

      1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

        With my hands?

        I kicked John Deere out of my country. I got no equipment.

    3. Pathogen   11 years ago

      Yeah, the Soviets were fabulously pro immigration, the trains to Siberia ran 24/7...

  56. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    If I find out Welch is wearing jeans with that tux jacket I will totally lose my shit.

    1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      Hammertime parachute pants

      1. Army of the 12 Monkeys   11 years ago

        Bermuda shorts and flip-flops.

  57. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    DC is full of govt employees and has an awful crime rate.

  58. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    Lennon was a jerk indeed.

    But he's lionized.

    1. Winston   11 years ago

      Only after he died. He himself predicted that!

      1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

        'Imagine' has to be one of the most over rated, over played, insufferably annoyingly grating song in the history of everything.

    2. Derpetologist   11 years ago

      Most people are reluctant to criticize a murder victim.

    3. poloniusium   11 years ago

      Like all politicians that people think well of?

    4. BigT   11 years ago

      Lennon was the true creative force behind the Beatles. Paul is schmaltzy, George dippy, and Ringo stupid.

      1. Winston   11 years ago

        He was DARK and ANGRY so he must be good amirite?

      2. Lord at War   11 years ago

        Let's compare...

        John married Yoko Ono.

        Paul married Linda Eastman.

        Ringo married Barbara Bach.

        Stupid!?

  59. Dances-with-Trolls   11 years ago

    So did the TI crew get put through some kind of TV boot camp? This has been on topic, smoothly flowing, and intelligent. Not at all what I was expecting.

    1. poloniusium   11 years ago

      It seems to depend on what cocktail of drugs the crew is on that night.

    2. Slammer   11 years ago

      Might be because it's taped.

      1. Dances-with-Trolls   11 years ago

        Ah, that explains it.

  60. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    Heh heh, J. Edgar Hoover would freak!

    "Now, sir, I'm agent Baker, heh, heh, because I'm like so baked...now, they tell me you've been smuggling marijuana...and not sharing any with your local law enforcement..."

  61. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Ha, yeah, he looked proud. Deer caught in headlights.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      Who in charity drives doesn't want to invite half the audience to turn off the telethon?

  62. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Did they steal the Gatorade logo for the Topical Storm?

  63. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    Oh, shut up Myers you fucking Leaf fan.

    1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      That is, Maple Leafs.

      1. Slammer   11 years ago

        Was he one of the Bob and Doug McKenzie guys?

        1. Bobarian   11 years ago

          NO! Blasphemer!

      2. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        It's pluralized as leaves.

        And the Habs have the worst fans in the history of the universe except for Filthadelphia.

  64. Bam!   11 years ago

    The recorder was invented to torture music teachers.

  65. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    Yeah, but not good angels.

  66. Winston   11 years ago

    I wish Loomis had killed Myers.

  67. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive.

  68. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Worldwide Recorder Concert?

  69. Winston   11 years ago

    Instead of a Topical Storm how about a Tulpical Storm?

    Get Hydra and Rollo in there as well.

  70. Slammer   11 years ago

    I hope that's not bleeped on the clips later.

    1. Bobarian   11 years ago

      It was the brown note that caused him to do that!

  71. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    IT'S A BOMB!

  72. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    I thought this was the most annoying sound:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAWoP1kncRE

    1. Bam!   11 years ago

      Knew what it was before I clicked it.

      1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

        Jim Carey's apex?

  73. Grand Moff Serious Man   11 years ago

    Hey Kennedy, are you made of copper and tellurium?

    1. BigT   11 years ago

      Forgot nitrogen.

  74. Apatheist ?_??   11 years ago

    Wait, so they can spell out Ass on screen but have to bleep it out when spoken?

    1. Winston   11 years ago

      This donkey discrimination must end!

  75. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Welch wants to punish her with an internship at reason.

    1. Pathogen   11 years ago

      Binders of interns..

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        I don't think you're supposed to talk about Lucy.

        1. Pathogen   11 years ago

          Dad.. What's a "Steigerwald"?

  76. poloniusium   11 years ago

    Did kennedy just ask us to back it up "right 'ere"?

  77. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    "Come on, Tolson*, it's good stuff, straight from the evidence room..."

    *J. Edgar Hoover's buddy

  78. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Yeah, that's why LAPD is so mellow.

  79. Grand Moff Serious Man   11 years ago

    Also Matt, the girl in question was president of her school chapter of Students Against Drunk Driving. So, you know, fuck those guys.

  80. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    Do *all* the big faceless corporations do ads with reassuring homey-sounding voiceovers?

    1. Slammer   11 years ago

      No. Some have Samuel Jackson doing a coon-ified, step and fetch, scary black man.

      1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

        All right, maybe it was an obvious point.

  81. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    In my day you rubbed dirt in it.

  82. Specail Sauce   11 years ago

    NFL is my pimp!

  83. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Sullum bogarts them all.

  84. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Maybe KMW was auditioning for the Scott Pilgrim vs. World sequel.

    1. Grand Moff Serious Man   11 years ago

      Maybe she had an interview with Ron Paul and came off down the mountain with his purple aura

  85. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Welch read in reason about reason's lack of drugs.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

      heh heh

  86. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    Honey, Peaches, Ginger and Pepper aren't new.

  87. poloniusium   11 years ago

    Baby Bourbon.

  88. Specail Sauce   11 years ago

    Coco? Racist!

  89. Grand Moff Serious Man   11 years ago

    Maple, Peaches, Ginger, and Cinnamon: the lineup at your local strip joint.

  90. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    Banana and Beets didn't make it?

    Cocaine?

  91. Slammer   11 years ago

    Cheetos.

    1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      Ringolos.

  92. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    I always pick the kmele off my pizza.

    1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      Kmele stains on my driveway are a bitch to remove.

  93. poloniusium   11 years ago

    Did KMW does say velveeta was good?

    1. poloniusium   11 years ago

      just* say

    2. Pathogen   11 years ago

      Formica Davis thought so..

      1. BigT   11 years ago

        Nosmo King

  94. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    I thought the 'K' was silent in Kmele's name.

    1. Pathogen   11 years ago

      Racist..

  95. Winston   11 years ago

    So as far as I can tell libertarians have the choice between either sticking to principle and losing while getting some minor reforms implemented or selling out and winning while getting some minor reforms implemented. Is that correct?

    Then there's the third choice of violent revolution that won't result in a dictatorship and repression of the opposition.

  96. Bam!   11 years ago

    These four panelists seem like they enjoy each other company.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

      Good chemistry, as it were.

    2. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      Yeah, no token morons tonight.

      1. Winston   11 years ago

        Heh, Heh, you said "token."

  97. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    There's plenty of time for Kennedy's daughter to work out daddy issues around the pole.

    1. Grand Moff Serious Man   11 years ago

      Given who her mom is you think she's going to have daddy issues? How do you think being constantly interrupted by her mother during discussions at the dinner table is going to make her feel?

  98. GILMORE   11 years ago

    because Kmele knows his strippers.

    1. poloniusium   11 years ago

      raycisssssssssss

    2. Winston   11 years ago

      What's the proper libertarian position of the width of the G-string?

      1. poloniusium   11 years ago

        What are you, some kind of puritan snocon? No g-strings at all.

        1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

          The market has spoken.

        2. Slammer   11 years ago

          No way, man. They're hot.

        3. Winston   11 years ago

          So you are an extremely thin libertarian?

      2. Pathogen   11 years ago

        Capellini to Vermicelli

  99. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    Yes, make the man a judge who believes in extrajudicial execution!

    1. Winston   11 years ago

      You Know which other judge approved by Democrats supported extrajudicial execution?

      1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

        Dredd?

      2. Pathogen   11 years ago

        Judge Dread?

      3. Andrew S.   11 years ago

        Dredd?

      4. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

        Consensus!

        1. Grand Moff Serious Man   11 years ago

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZEdDMQZaCU

        2. Winston   11 years ago

          I didn't knew TEAM BLUE liked Judge Dredd.

    2. poloniusium   11 years ago

      HAHA, gentleman. Kmele is a natural comedian.

  100. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Welch: Rand Paul is a perpetual loser.

    1. Winston   11 years ago

      So he isn't a sellout after all.

  101. Andrew S.   11 years ago

    OT:

    First grader gets sick and dies at school. Teachers union finds this horrible tragedy to be a great excuse to complain about staff cuts

    1. Apatheist ?_??   11 years ago

      Teachers union president Jerry Jordan said he did not know the circumstances surrounding the child's death, but said, "I do know that the building is woefully under-resourced. And now we have lost a baby. This is horrific."

      Go fuck yourself JJ. Like some school nurse would have prevented this.

  102. Grand Moff Serious Man   11 years ago

    Bernie Sanders: SINO?

    1. Specail Sauce   11 years ago

      Senile Incontinent Nambla Organizer?

  103. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    I want the Volvo lady to do the termite killin' voice over.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

      That would be awesome

  104. GILMORE   11 years ago

    Please, anyone = guesses on why the hell Matt & Kennedy are dressed like that?

    Is there an after show? Explanations are required.

    1. Bam!   11 years ago

      Occam's razor: Kennedy has dressed in that before and Matt has no fashion sense.

    2. poloniusium   11 years ago

      Cocaine's a hell of a drug.

    3. Derpetologist   11 years ago

      Matt wants to tell you about another testament of Jesus Christ.

      Kennedy wants so badly to be a Christmas tree.

      1. GILMORE   11 years ago

        Mormons wear tuxes...

        ...and you dress up lizards for Christmas.

        Yeah, see what I mean? someone's got to have a better explanation.

        1. Derpetologist   11 years ago

          His tux looked like a suit to me. Keep in mind that one of my regular outfits used to be a black wifebeater, a green trench coat, purple pants and black flip flops.

          I think I will dress up a lizard for Christmas. And I will name him Herb and walk him around the neighborhood while singing lizard carols. And I'll be wearing a black wifebeater, a green trench coat, purple pants and black flip flops.

          1. GILMORE   11 years ago

            "
            Derpetologist|5.21.14 @ 10:08PM|#

            His tux looked like a suit to me.'

            Yes, and aren't you the person who said he doesn't like suits and rocks a jesus beard?

            Satin-lapels? Tux.

            Its not subtle either.

            1. Derpetologist   11 years ago

              You cannot even begin to fathom how little interest I have in fashion, even for a man.

              I think about clothes as often as Kalahari Bushmen think about differential equations.

              One time, I torn a out the crotch in my jeans. No matter, I thought. My underwear will keep me covered. Then one of my underpants got a hole. No matter, I thought. My pants will cover it up. But one day, I worn both torn articles at the same time. I noticed my mistake when I was sitting with my knees apart on a Chicago L platform and saw my scrotum sticking out. Fortunately, I had a hat and was able to cover up that way.

              Would you like to hear more of my fashion adventures?

              1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

                Yes, please.

  105. Dances-with-Trolls   11 years ago

    Is there a business owner in America credulous enough to by that Startup NY ad?

  106. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Yeah! I got a mention!

    1. Slammer   11 years ago

      I saw! Congrats!

  107. Francisco d'Anconia   11 years ago

    Derp!

  108. Francisco d'Anconia   11 years ago

    Eddie!

  109. poloniusium   11 years ago

    Grats!

  110. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    Yes!

    1. Slammer   11 years ago

      Nice!

  111. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Caps lock, as always, cruise control for awesome.

  112. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    Burn! On Kennedy.

  113. GILMORE   11 years ago

    Matt was genuinely like, 'uh, what?'

    He's like, "I Studied With A Speech Coach!?!"

  114. Pathogen   11 years ago

    Brutal..

  115. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Colin nailed it.

    1. poloniusium   11 years ago

      I really do think there is a pharmacological component. She barely interrupted at all tonight.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        Maybe that forced time off wasn't about that production assistant she killed. Re-education.

  116. Grand Moff Serious Man   11 years ago

    I need to step up my A game of hate.

  117. Slammer   11 years ago

    The family's trust one was great.

    1. Apatheist ?_??   11 years ago

      I was disappointed it wasn't a post by Sandi about taking a dump.

  118. Bam!   11 years ago

    The best of The Independents? That'll be short.

  119. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    AH! Lou Dobbs.

  120. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Criticize my haiku, will you? You try working in a seasonal reference while criticizing a motormouth woman.

    1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      Needs more seasonzzzz!

    2. Pathogen   11 years ago

      You couldn't have worked "make me a fucking sammich" into that?

    3. GILMORE   11 years ago

      Kennedy, white skin
      Shade of winter snow falling
      Bitch just won't shut up

      1. poloniusium   11 years ago

        A true master!

      2. Derpetologist   11 years ago

        HEY BERNIE- LOOK HERE^^^^^^^^^

        I demand this poem be featured on the next 2 Minutes of Hate.

  121. GILMORE   11 years ago

    STANDING DOBBS!?

    1. Slammer   11 years ago

      'Rhoids?

      1. GILMORE   11 years ago

        He's all excited about republican primary victories, he's treating it like Super Tuesday or something.

        No one cares.

        1. Pathogen   11 years ago

          In your face TeaBaggers.. mediocrity wins again!

  122. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    All in all not bad for a live blog thread Welch didn't think enough of to bump.

    1. Pathogen   11 years ago

      Reason commenters triumph in the face of adversity...

  123. Big Chief   11 years ago

    So I think the soon-to-be Judge Barron needs an appropriate nickname for his horrific, bloody and unconstitutional beliefs. I thought Judge Butcher Baron or Bloody Barron (Potter reference), for the alliteration, but with a last name like Barron it seems like there should be better alternatives. Red Baron would be pass?. This gentlemen deserves something along the lines of Fauxcahontas.

    Suggestions?

    1. Dances-with-Trolls   11 years ago

      Judge Barron-ly Skimmed Through the Fucking Constitution?

    2. Slammer   11 years ago

      Barron Harkonnen?

    3. poloniusium   11 years ago

      The Baron of Innocents Blood?

    4. GILMORE   11 years ago

      Baron Von Killudrone

      1. Big Chief   11 years ago

        Harkonen is very good, but I gotta go with the drone reference! If it turns out Barron is a coke whore or a pedophile maybe I'd go with Harkonen.

        1. poloniusium   11 years ago

          He hasn't denied sucking cocks while fondling baby boys.

  124. Dances-with-Trolls   11 years ago

    I have to say that it's the best TI I've seen so far. Maybe there is hope?

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      it *was* better than normal.

      its because it was filmed and the 'party panel' was not retarded.

      But they were dressed like freaks. I am confounded.

      1. Dances-with-Trolls   11 years ago

        It wasn't adversarial, I think, and allowed for the panel to get into a little more detail on why they believe what they do. Not a whole lot, but far more coherent. It was an Independants show focused on what libertarians think of things rather than giving another forum to the same tired statist bull-shit artists and then arguing on their terms for four frenetic minutes at a time.

  125. GILMORE   11 years ago

    I am crushed by the fact that my repeated jibes at The Independents for being "TMZ-Light" for the FBN crowd failed to achieve Hate-Status.

    I may have to start actually *trying* now. I've been spoiled.

    1. Sevo   11 years ago

      "Oprah-after-dark" didn't get it either.
      But that was before there was a '2-minutes'.

    2. Pathogen   11 years ago

      Nobody likes a sore loser.. now, bask in Derp & GKC's brilliance...

      1. Derpetologist   11 years ago

        ? We are the champions, We are the champions! No time for losers 'cause we are the champions!

  126. Winston   11 years ago

    So how do you make the two minutes hate?

    1. Derpetologist   11 years ago

      Here are my other winning comments:

      "The purpose of the aftershow is to make the regular show look good."

      and

      "All the bullshit on the bottom of the screen obscures Kennedy's boobs. This is an outrage."

      Alas, they no longer mention my name...

    2. Francisco d'Anconia   11 years ago

      Be a witty asshole.

      1. Bobarian   11 years ago

        We're all half way there.

  127. Winston   11 years ago

    The Independents: A bunch of homo losing losers who like to lose and like the buttsecks.

  128. Winston   11 years ago

    Matt Welch is proof that former muppets do have a purpose.

    1. Derpetologist   11 years ago

      There's no such thing as a former Muppet. Muppets ride or die forever.

      1. Winston   11 years ago

        Matt Welch: the Lost Muppet?

  129. Winston   11 years ago

    This show is the most fucking shit fuck shit fuck cunt cock shitfucking sack of animal testicals since Pink Lady and Jeff.

    1. Winston   11 years ago

      This show is the most fucking fucketty shit fuck shit fuck cunt cock shitfucking cocksucking shitty shit fuckettyass fuckitty fuck fuck fuckers fucking sack of anally greased shitheaded animal testicles since Jack Lalanne.

  130. Winston   11 years ago

    I haven't such a collection of boring white old men vanilla losers since Lawrence Welk was in his mother's pussy.

  131. Winston   11 years ago

    Kennedy is proof that Lee Harvey Oswald should have packed more bullets.

  132. Winston   11 years ago

    They should stop taking clothing tips from Kramer and Disco Stu.

  133. Winston   11 years ago

    This show is so anemic that it will cause Obama's drone victims to stop bleeding.

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      He said, 'witty'

      1. Winston   11 years ago

        I'm the wittiest wit since the wallpaper defeated Oscar Wilde.

  134. Winston   11 years ago

    Kennedy is so ugly she'll make Santorum come out of the closet.

  135. Winston   11 years ago

    Kennedy is so ugly that she receives FEA funding.

  136. Winston   11 years ago

    Matt Welch is so fat and ugly that the Ex-Gays are using him in their "treatment."

  137. Winston   11 years ago

    The show is so thin sarcasmic would fuck it.

    1. poloniusium   11 years ago

      That one is good, but they won't read it because no one but us would get it.

  138. Winston   11 years ago

    This show makes Warty's rape dungeon look like Risa.

  139. Winston   11 years ago

    My ears haven't heard such screeching dissonant noise since I last listened to Nickleback.

    1. Winston   11 years ago

      The only thing worse then your child labor made monocle being smudged is listening to The Independent with the mute off.

  140. Winston   11 years ago

    Okay so that is 16. I think that is enough? How do I rate? -10/10?

  141. BiMonSciFiCon   11 years ago

    I think Kennedy is great, but I wish she didn't cut off the other Independents. I don't really care if the commie gets cut off, but Matt and Kmele?

  142. BiMonSciFiCon   11 years ago

    I think I agree with TV's Andy Levy here. The players were getting screwed.

    1. Bobarian   11 years ago

      The players were getting big money to play a game. It is really hard on your body, but everyone with more than two brain cells knows this. I have little sympathy.

      1. poloniusium   11 years ago

        It is really hard on your body, but everyone with more than two brain cells knows this

        We're talking about football players here.

    2. poloniusium   11 years ago

      Probably. I would not be surprised if the team docs lied to the players about how awesome drugs are.

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