Comic Artist Burns Copies of Book He Got Kickstarter Funded Rather Than Mail Them, Because Capitalism is Bad
For those who think Ayn Rand was just crazily overwrought in the "unrealistic" characters she created to dramatize the anti-capitalist mentality, you might want to see this addendum to the Kickstarter page of comic artist John Campbell, who raised over $50,000 on Kickstarter to publish a book of his comics Sad Pictures for Children.

He got tired of having to mail the books he promised, apparently (believe me, I know that's a drag) and so decided to burn a copy for every person who asked about where the book they'd been promised was.
The page has a video of him doing the burning.
He has elevated the annoyance of mailing 127 packages to an anti-market rant of marvelous proportion. Excerpts, though whole thing is worth reading, after he talks about how rich people he knew as a kid mistreated a pet rat:
I got a lot of requests from backers to get books sent before Christmas, which I was able to do for some people. I could not do this for other people before leaving for the holidays, and many of them asked for refunds.
I refunded them with money I got from selling the original art I made for my webcomic from 2009-2012. This was money I planned to ship orders with. After this happened, I could have made another update explaining I had issued refunds and then tried to sell more things or asked for more shipping money. Instead I thought for a long time about what has been happening…
If you would like a refund, please contact a fan of my work directly for your money. This is where the money would come from anyway. I am cutting out the middle man.
I refunded some of the preorders I received through paypal in addition to the kickstarter orders, but I will not be refunding any more….
You could try to obtain refunds through kickstarter or paypal, through your bank or credit card company. You could try to harass me or inconvenience me or tell other people negative things about me or this kickstarter in the hope that this will affect me negatively. Be aware that each attempt to contact me about this book will individually result in the burning of a book until the books are gone…..
Why? Society is fucked up, man, and someone owes me a living:
All right: I want direct funding for my living necessities. I want to establish relationships with a group of people who can pay for my baseline needs like food and rent. I am looking for people who do not feel they need to see any "return" on their "investment." I am looking for people who understand that money is a bad joke we use to hurt each other. I'm looking for people who like me were born with a lot of privileges but who have had the awareness and emotional stability to keep their bucket under the faucet when the money comes out.
I am not looking for the support of anyone who wants a book, or wants to see me put stick figure comics on the internet. I do not need the support of anyone who thinks that I will deserve to eat and sleep only after I have fulfilled some standard they've chosen to hold me to. I am looking for people who believe that if you spend your life in a small room thinking, you deserve to live and breathe the same amount as someone who spends their life doing intense physical or mental labor, or who has money that "makes money."
When I have established a means for a small group of people to directly meet my needs, and I know that the people involved understand the value of what they are doing and would continue without me, I will transfer these relationships to someone else. This will provide for the basic living necessities of a person who would not usually have the opportunity for their needs to be met by strangers on the internet. They will not be asked to do anything to keep these relationships going. They will simply have their needs met.
Mr. Campbell seems distressed about things above and beyond that some people like to trade value for value, to be sure, with intimations of trouble with medication and gender identity (I think), but:
I am confident that I can find a handful of people who will help meet my needs, and then someone else's needs. Because the truth is, that is not very much money, for a lot of people. We don't need much. The truth is there's more than enough money and resources for everyone to have their needs met, without worry, every day….
….if I can't find people who want to make this happen, why would I continue to interact with the internet? I put stick figure comics on the internet for about a decade, and now I won't. If I make stick figure comics, then I should….live? If I ship your book, then I deserve to eat and sleep? If I don't interact in a particular way with the post office, that makes me immoral?
To give Campbell his due, he is not calling for a forced state solution to his problem of wanting other people to take care of him, merely that he hopes to find them somewhere out there. Best of luck.
I wrote in 2012 on people who hated Kickstarter for lacking enough central cultural control.
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You really can't fix stupid....maybe this guy is Tony.
My first impression was: "No one but Tony could be so pathetic."
That or the Butt Plug
jibbity jibbity and a rat-a-tat-tat.
This is the same rational that BO employs.
Stop being so nice and just go ahead and say it: The guy is an asshole.
He's a kid in a grown-up body who wants strangers to volunteer to support him in his continued mental adolescence.
Good luck with that, pal.
He wants to enslave all those around him. He thinks it's wrong that people should expect something in return when they pay him for promised goods and services. But he doesn't think it's wrong that other people should give him their money for nothing at all. I wonder how much of his own wealth he freely gives away to anyone and everyone.
If you want a good stick figure comic, go here.
Seriously epic.
I love me some OOTS.
If you want a good stick figure comic, go here.
Seriously epic.
Did I mention the entertainment value of this stick figure comic?
I love me some OOTS.
Dang it! I made the mistake of reading past the first two strips. It's going to be a long night.
I was like, "No way that Durkon turned evil against his will." And I was RIGHT!!!
Also, Tyrion dies in the fifth book.
Oh, *Spoilers*, I guess.
You'd better be joking.
he kills the girl so he can feed and save his dog
Also in lord of the rings and the hobbit it is the eagles that save the day....
I am pretty sure Tolken is trying to say is that all history can be explained by Eagles procrastinating rather then just fixing the problems when they come up.
I love me some OOTS.
http://www.angryflower.com/
money is bad, but please send me some so I don't have to work. The internet allows people a whole new platform for being dicks
I would love for someone to send him some money, with the only caveat being that since money is only a bad joke, they only send money that they made themselves with crayons.
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I use white powder for money.
Envy is an ugly thing.
Envy is an ugly thing.
You know what else is an ugly thing?
Hitler?
I can't understand what he means. I mean, I get the gist of it--he wants strangers to give him money and not have to give anything in return--but I can't parse the specific words here.
Language is like an arbitrary construct, man
Same here. I get that he objects and wants something for nothing, but I can't figure out why.
I can't figure out why
Because he's just that damn special, that's why.
Giving a reason would be capitalistic, dude.
That clicking the link to and reading the original story would yield the term "Lovesong of the Gatekeeper" alone made it worth reading this article
No. thanks.
He's not even a stupid man's Andy Kaufman, presuming this is some sort of stunt for *cough* art.
The response to this guy has already been written in the movie Interstate 60. Where is Mr. Cody when you need him?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWe_IScqzeM
Yup. I've given money to guys with "Why lie? I need a beer signs." Because I can respect that. "Will work for food?" Probably wouldn't work for cash.
What the hell just happened
Biggest asshole in the world, or biggest asshole in the universe?
The universe is like, an arbitrary concept man
Meh. He did something that people weren't willing to pay for, and now he wants to get paid for it. I don't see how he's any different than any artist getting an NEA grant. More honest, maybe.
Nope---he did something people explicitly DID pay for, and decided mailing them was too much trouble. He raised over $50K.
I don't know why he couldn't handle mailing the books. He clearly has a lot of free time.
People WERE willing to pay for it, he just didn't want to deliver to their satisfaction.
Oh. Shouldn't've skimmed. I just got the part about him having drawn stick figures for a long time and retroactively wanting money for having done that. Because rich people are greedy, and somebody else doesn't really need that money anyway, and stuff. Yeah, I guess if he had contracts that he broke, he's slightly more of a dick.
Yeah, it's not so much protest or art as fraud, really.
That's some weapons-grade special-snowflake syndrome.
Seriously, there needs to be a new Oscar category for Best Neckbeardery.
I do not need the support of anyone who thinks that I will deserve to eat and sleep only after I have fulfilled some standard they've chosen to hold me to that I agreed to.
He kinda overlooks that part, no?
Weapons are like, an arbitrary concept, man.
VERY arbitrary.
So Jesse Myerson is a comic in his free time huh.
I almost think this is all part of the "art" because it's so patently absurd. If it's not, he will be in for a rude awakening when he needs $5 million dollars to buy J Crew skinny jeans after 40 years of inflation.
I thought about how little I needed any of that money at all.
So refund it to the people you are stiffing, asshole.
I think its time to contact this guy and ask for a refund for the book. That I didn't order. Many, many times.
Is it Nazi to facilitate someone else's book burnings?
In the very same kickstarter post where he tells people he's not going to honor the agreement he made to send these people the books they paid for he says his landlord should fix the place up if he wants to get paid.
Oh, Where?! Oh, Where?! Oh, Where?! Oh, Where?! Oh, Where?! Oh, Where?! Oh, Where?! Oh, Where?! Oh, Where?! Oh, Where?! Oh, Where?! Oh, Where?! Oh, Where?! Oh, Where?!
Towards the bottom:
I have stopped paying rent. I have stopped paying most things. I am keeping my phone plan for now which is $50/month. I cook all my meals at home and spend very little money.
The space I live in is falling apart, did not cost much to rent anyway, and is run by a landlord who chose not to help in any way when a roommate who refused to move out threatened me repeatedly with violence. In part because that roommate followed through with his threats, and because I have spent sleepless nights managing the leaking roof he refuses to repair, I don't mind taking this time to show my landlord that money is not a discrete, discernible object but an expression of the values present in human relationships. I am interested to see how my life progresses in the next few months.
But that white man with multiple pieces of property and multiple streams of revenue is expecting your money! You can't just not give rich people money they're expecting!
Oh, you can't, why didn't you tell me. He might get frustrated. He might make a noise with his mouth that sounds like "debt." He might be forced to change his life a little, make some sacrifices, he might have to do the thing that he asks me to do when he asks me to pay the rent. It helps that the building is not a legal place of residence and I have never signed a lease, so he will have a hard time getting the law involved.
His landlord is a white man , so that does help to justify not paying his rent. Even though dude is a white man, cause like he is an artist, and sits in, like, a small room all day drawing stick figures.
The landlord has a shitty property that he likely is unable to afford to maintain, and this pretentious piece of shit assumes he is rich. He is so detached from the real world it is sickening.
Someone needs to send the link to his landlord.
Let's see what happens when his landlord finds out what a douchbag isn't paying the rent this month.
Christ, what an asshole.
I know, total showoff, right? Like its *hard* to get crucified?
Also a reference to this.
If I don't interact in a particular way with the post office, that makes me immoral?
Yes.
Yes, it does.
The time to give this fucking pussy speech was BEFORE you went on Kickstarter and told people you would send them comic books for money.
If sending people comic books is too much trouble, the way to avoid having to do that is to avoid telling people you will send them comic books for money. Post office problem, solved.
Looking at the cast of characters, I would say the comics reflect clear signs of microaggressive heteronormativity.
Good for him for living and working in Zacatecas, Mexico. I'm sure that's less expensive than Chicago (his current location, according to Wikipedia). But, if he wants to minimize his lifestyle (and, I assume, his carbon footprint), maybe he needs to think bigger by moving to a country with an even lower cost of living. How is Kolkata, India these days?
The voice of human evil, for your edification, ladies and gentlemen.
Almost purely unadulerated evil.
I'm not kidding. This guy is almost as evil as Hitler. He simply is less competent; less effective in his evil.
I think he just says what most leftist think "I am entitled to whatever I want".
They are only small, paltry wants. You would have to be some time of monster to argue that he should have to keep the terms of a promise/contract he made.
This guys statements remind me of existentialism, particularly "The Stranger".
He's still as asshole though.
Existentialism is childish foot-stamping in the face of (objective) reality. Your statement is *quite* applicable to this fucking pussy-ass loser.
"All right: I want direct funding for my living necessities. I want to establish relationships with a group of people who can pay for my baseline needs like food and rent."
It just so happens that I'm in the market for a slave. But this guy will have to do much better job of selling himself if he expects me to buy him.
Did you not read him? He doesn't want to, indeed doesn't even thing he should have to, do any work, or indeed anything whatsoever, in exchange for his basic necessities. He's offended that anyone would demand such.
If you are ever walking in the wilderness and come across a starving man, step over him and do not, under any circumstances, help him.
Why shouldn't you help him? Because of the non-zero chance that it will be this guy.
This guy's existence - the fact that he's alive, and that he can think these thoughts and articulate them, and be defiant and judgmental about it to boot - is the ultimate refutation of the philosophy of altruism. Rand could have saved herself the effort of writing Atlas - it wasn't necessary. We just had to wait for this guy to be born and learn to write.
If this guy does, in fact, find people who will send him money in response to this, there is no level of contempt for humanity one could ever possibly achieve that would be excessive. If he even finds ONE SINGLE PERSON, that is like the fall of Adam all over again, and evidence of the possible corruption and dissolution of us ALL.
that is like the fall of Adam all over again, and evidence of the possible corruption and dissolution of us ALL.
Don't ya think you are going a little over board?
Also don't you think you are putting just a slight "burden of community" on all of humanity here?
Yeah, once I get going it's hard to hold back the brimstone.
but it really is our problem, we dont act like the other animals we inhabit the earth with, the sick and dying are treated, the homeless and staving are fed and housed out of the concept of pity, but the weakness is perpetuated, none have learned how to take care of their needs other than to ask for the next handout.
Am I my brothers keeper?
even God only helps those who help themselves
"We just had to wait for this guy to be born and learn to write."
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[Looks at watch. Shakes it. Puts to ear. Scowls, winds watch. Shrugs. Looks around for place with sign saying "beer". Wanders off.]
If this guy does, in fact, find people who will send him money in response to this, there is no level of contempt for humanity one could ever possibly achieve that would be excessive. If he even finds ONE SINGLE PERSON, that is like the fall of Adam all over again, and evidence of the possible corruption and dissolution of us ALL.
Then I suggest that you not read the comments attached to his manifesto. Believe it or not, most of the suckered suckers are supporting him, and not a few are still willing to send him more money.
It's a sad, sad world we live in.
or wants to see me put stick figure comics on the internet.
Fuck that guy.
Order of the Stick is awesome.
And he does make money from his print additions and isn't a dick about his kickstarter.
Not to mention Christmas ornaments, t-shirts, and minatures.
Are you Rich Burlew?
You cut that blasphemy out right now!
Use logic, man! Would The Giant waste his time arguing with mortals?
I may of missed it, because I can only read stupid for so long, but is this walking asshole going to refund people's money? Or is he just burning the books and keeping the cash?
If he is keeping the cash, I wonder how he's going to react to the inevitable lawsuit. I predict an epic meltdown.
The indie comic book world is surprisingly "all for one" and forgiving, especially for something they can blame on "he's just mentally troubled"; I bet no one tries to do anything about it.
He wants his life funded by others, but not to have to give them anything in return...
Well, hey, it's good to want, pal.
Just spare us the rants about how it's annoying to do the things you freely agreed to do and how icky other people are for wanting you to keep your word.
(Who can imagine why people don't want to just support you?)
(That said, this guy is obviously plain ol' nuts, and deserves more pity than outrage.)
Sorry. No pity. People who intentionally harm other people, even a little, don't deserve pity.
This guy is a world class douche. The moral beauty of true free market capitalism (standard disclaimer that it doesn't truly exist anywhere) is that you can only have your wants and needs fulfilled to the extent that you can successfully fulfill the wants and needs of others. He wants to be a pet, but even dogs and cats give more in return.
The creature wrote a billion words why he shouldn't be human.
Read some of the kickstarter comments in response to this gentleman's obviously mentally-disturbed tirade. The response is split rather evenly between "fuck off and die" and "hope you feel better soon and find happiness". Quite surprising considering that most of the backers screwed out of their "investments" were the higher-tiered ones who had ordered the printed edition of his product.
The outpouring of rage and bandying of Ayn Rand quotations seems rather excessive to me simply because this gentleman is, as I said above, obviously quite mentally disturbed (and not in the way that ALL proggies are mentally disturbed, but genuinely). Certainly he reneged on his contractual obligations and certainly he should be brought to task for doing so, but it's the complete lack of sympathy for individuals like this that make the general populace wary of the libertarian outlook on life.
Moral equivalent of Bernie Madoff. He needs Obamacare.
obviously quite mentally disturbed
Not by my standards.
Being a world-class self-entitled asshole isn't "mentally disturbed." He's obviously quite functional - he navigated kickstarter, can produce comic books, etc. The clue is that he committed fraud and pocketed a nice piece of change. That's not mental illness; that's assholery.
So, he's just a world-class self-entitled asshole. Contempt is what is called for, not pity.
I did allude in my original piece to his other issues of meds and gender i.d. that he alludes to....certainly in the modern lingo, he's going thru a sort of "off his meds breakdown." But my read is that has resulted in the sort of "saying exactly what I really think and feel" outburst when "rational normality" would dictate that maybe you try to be more civilized than that. He's certainly expressing clearly and vehemently a worldview that many people hold, not ranting bizarre schizo word salad. I am not feeling bad about taking his actions and words seriously, not just writing them off as "he's crazy." I daresay HE wouldn't appreciate his serious, impassioned call for a new way of life be written off as nuts.
I think he's quite serious about having other people support him unconditionally. Most of us grow out of that, however, around the age of 16 or 17 at the latest, when we realize that we are not the only people on the planet with feelings, desires, and ideas.
He might be "off his meds," but I agree that he's stating a set of ideas that a lot of undisturbed people share. It's just that they experience those ideas as fantasies, not as a reality that can striven for and, possibly, attained.
Yes he mentions gender issues, and he mentions that he used those issues to get backers to let him get away with shit they otherwise wouldn't. He is completely conscious that he can do this, and specifically says that if he revealed his problems on social media people might have gone easier on him, which is exactly what he's now done.
He seems to have some "gender identity" issues, but that doesn't make him insane. He clearly understands that people expect to get what they paid for. He's just claiming he's above all that because he's above all this monetary stuff. He wants to opt out of this monetary system, but only after it imposes obligations on him, not while it served him.
Yes he's clearly got mental problems, but they're not the cause of his rant, entitlement is.
Abbreviated version:
WWAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
This person, and everyone who thinks like him, deserves to starve and die in a ditch.
And I mean that with all seriousness.
If I saw him starving in a gutter, I would spit on him.
He just described my cat. Though pets still provide some return on investment through their entertainment value.
I am looking for people who do not feel they need to see any "return" on their "investment."
I suggest that he try hanging out around public transportation and asking people if they can spare a couple bucks so he can get a cab to the shelter or rehab or whatever.
Cats at least have this argument: "My human pets me; he feeds me; he cleans my kitty box; he provides me with a warm house and keeps me safe; I must be a god."
Dogs, on the other hand, say: "My human pets me; he feeds me; he cleans my poop box; he provides me with a warm house and keeps me safe; my human must be a god."
Peak douche/derp?
Look, if everyone in the USA will just send me one penny--just one cent!, I won't have to worry about anything. I will have 3 million dollars. Come on, guys, do it!
This is the "fun unemployed" we were told about.
Remember, you have to pay for this guy's health insurance, so he can live his dream of being a comic artist.
Isn't it awesome we've freed him from the need to have a job?
Even he admits that his "art" consists of difficult-to-comprehend cartoons whose drawn figures are stick figures.
Robert Crumb worked a lot harder than that for his art, I must say.
No one owes this toddler a dog shit. Unless he actually paid for a dog shit and didn't receive it, in which case he is definitely owed one.
He should get a loan from the mob, then explain why he shouldn't have to pay it back.
He will find a group who will send him money to pay for what he wants until they understand the true value of what they are doing (and, presumably, stop sending him money), then he'll generate another group who will support him?
Won't he get tired of doing that after a time or two? It would be easier to go to work and get a regular paycheck. But what do I know?
He doesn't want to go to the trouble of sending people the books they ordered, but he's not going to refund their money? I guess in a greed-bound, capitalist world that would be called "theft by fraud." But in his world, who knows what it is? I just suggest that no one who has anything to do with him expect him to do anything he says he will do, or at least don't pay him in advance.
At least he's honest. I have to admit that much.
The internet allows people a whole new platform for being dicks
He seemed like such a nice, normal guy five years ago, when he was an exhibitor at a webcomic convention that I organized. (And he did pay his table fee.) Sad that it's come to this.
Maybe it's performance art?
My understanding is that Kickstarter includes contractual obligations. So we can all cross our fingers that he gets sued over this.
Not seeing why he's taking his message online, keeping a phone, and all that jazz... if you want the unfettered life of being free of capitalism and such - go live in the woods.
Oh no wait. You'll have to WORK in some form to stay alive, to feed yourself, to care for yourself, etc.
Guy shows his bank account, it has 750$. That's a lot of jokes right there (as he says money is a joke)... I'm in need of a good laugh. Send it to me why don't you?
" I'm looking for people who like me were born with a lot of privileges.. "
And would like to enable me to continue enjoying those privileges in return for nothing at all. Specifically I'm looking for people who would rather provide money to me, a adult with marketable skills, no known disabilities, and access to Western welfare state benefits than staving, crippled, third world kids. God, it's not so much check your privilege as check reality.
So let's examine the timeline. He complains that he had to offer refunds to people because he couldn't ship by Christmas.
"Funded! This project was successfully funded on May 26, 2012."
But he's not talking about the difficulty of shipping by Christmas 2012, but _2013_. He had over a YEAR to finish and he's complaining that people wanted their money back. God what a douche.
"In harmony with my tradition of rewarding the people who give me the least money, the $25 orders finished shipping about 2 weeks ago. "
This is October 25, 2013. He's not quite dedicated to that principle though since he says "Until then, I'd like to give you the option to throw me extra money for shipping and get your book out the door asap."
He has a different definition of "rush order" than the rest of us.
That was the last message that can be read by non-backers before the massive "Fuck you.". So he took the money, delayed production for months because he was nit-picky, (he admits this) and then gets angry because people actually want him to complete the contract. He can't do this because he blew the $49,000 he got.