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Capitol on Lockdown, Multiple Gunshots Reported

Peter Suderman | 10.3.2013 2:36 PM

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The U.S. Capitol has been placed on lockdown, with legislators and staffers advised to seek shelter. Twitter and cable news have multiple reports of gunshots near the front of the west front of the Capitol building. 

Capitol TVs right now are directing staffers to "Shelter in Place," according to a photo posted on Twitter by Huffington Post reporter Michal McAuliff:

Buzzfeed reporter Kate Nocera tweets that she was "literally dragged in by cop as he heard shots fired come over the radio." She posted this picture: 

@KateNocer/Buzzfeed

CNN is reporting "multiple gunshots."

Yahoo News reports on Twitter: "Police were chasing a black car near the Capitol building. They cornered the car and that's when shots rang out." 

Capitol Police are telling news outlets that the lockdown is no longer in effect. 

News reports indicate that the incident began at the White House. A black car rammed the White House gates, at which point a chase began, leading toward the Capitol. During the chase, use of force was authorized, and when the car neared the Capitol, the driver, a woman, was shot. The woman has been taken to the hospital, but her condition has not been confirmed. Additional reports indicate that a child may have been in the black vehicle in question. 

One officer was reportedly injured during the incident. According to CNN, the officer was driving a car that was hit by the black vehicle. 

CNN reports that all the shots fired during the incident today were fired by law enforcement. 

Video of the chase has been obtained by Al Hurra television, and is being broadcast by Fox News. (Via TPM):

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  1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   12 years ago

    Shocking. Who could possibly have a grudge against Congress?

    1. AlexInCT   12 years ago

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  2. Bam!   12 years ago

    Is the Capital a gun-free zone?

    1. Loki   12 years ago

      Probably.

  3. Being Waterboarded   12 years ago

    Uh-oh... I do hope nobody was shot.

    I eagerly await news of the shooter... Is it a teapartier, or is it a D intent on cleaning out the R's from the capitol?

    1. Brandon   12 years ago

      HuffPo reader. Possibly Tony.

      1. SugarFree   12 years ago

        It's hard to work a trigger when all you are is a giant asshole.

        1. jesse.in.mb   12 years ago

          Not even with kegels?

          1. SugarFree   12 years ago

            Even with a cybernetic grundle.

        2. mr simple   12 years ago

          Not when you're Assy McGee.

    2. SweatingGin   12 years ago

      Of course it's a teathuglican. Probably because of some crosshairs on a map or something.

      1. Mainer2   12 years ago

        Just like the time Sarah Palin shot that congresswoman in Arizona...or something.

  4. Scruffy Nerfherder   12 years ago

    Oh Christ, all we need now is another Trayvon incident and we'll have the perfect trifecta of Democratic freakouts.

    1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   12 years ago

      I highly doubt DC has armed neighborhood watchmen.

      1. Brett L   12 years ago

        Or SYG

    2. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

      *HEADS EXPLODE* from RAGE!

  5. Brandon   12 years ago

    I blame the shutdownquesterobstructlicans.

    1. Almanian!   12 years ago

      *slow clap*

    2. Rhywun   12 years ago

      Chaos in disguise!

  6. Spoonman.   12 years ago

    I predict some joker found the Capitol Police's radio frequency.

  7. Paul.   12 years ago

    The U.S. Capitol has been placed on lockdown,

    Jesus fuck this is confusing. I thought the whole government was already on lockdown. Or is this like a lockdown lockdown?

    1. SweatingGin   12 years ago

      SHELTER IN PLACE!

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder   12 years ago

      You got a shutdown lockdown
      Pick a vote to stall em
      Got a shutdown lockdown
      Pick a vote to fix

  8. SIV   12 years ago

    FALSE FLAG or furloughed federal worker?

    1. jesse.in.mb   12 years ago

      People should totally start going Postal again.

      State Departmental?

      1. Paul.   12 years ago

        Non-essential-al.

      2. robc   12 years ago

        Things were better back when people used to go Postrel.

    2. CE   12 years ago

      Someone who didn't like being called non-essential, I'm afraid.

      1. Rasilio   12 years ago

        So a Congressman then

  9. DJF   12 years ago

    Its the Zombie Apocalypse brought on by the government shutdown.

    Oh, why oh why did I not listen to Obama!!!!!!

    1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

      We. didn't. listen!

  10. SweatingGin   12 years ago

    Washington Post reports injuries and shooter arrested.

    1. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

      One of the cops in the picture seems to have a beard. What is this, the Civil War?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder   12 years ago

        Hipster cops

        1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

          Not a beard fan, but admit, the look works for cops.

          1. Muzzle of Bees   12 years ago

            Not a cop fan, but yeah, it kinda does.

      2. LynchPin1477   12 years ago

        I'm not in favor of the Civil War, but I am in favor of beards.

        1. Hillary's Clitdong   12 years ago

          That's What Tom Cruise Said

        2. Rasilio   12 years ago

          Me neither, but a little selective annihilation of mayors and government officials to create a vacuum might not be so bad.

          1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

            What's so civil about war anyway?

          2. Paul.   12 years ago

            Yeah, but you know what fills the vacuum.

            1. SweatingGin   12 years ago

              a Slash guitar solo?

            2. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

              more vacuum?

              1. Paul.   12 years ago

                No, silly, Nancy Pelosi.

      3. jesse.in.mb   12 years ago

        What is this, the Civil War?

        Too well maintained and not enough lice for the Civil War.

        Do we, uh, have a clearer picture of that cop, by any chance?

        1. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

          All I know is what I click on the Internet.

          1. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

            /cyber Will Rogers

  11. Bardas Phocas   12 years ago

    The Revolution?

    1. SweatingGin   12 years ago

      Last night's dive into the bowels of DU and Kos had me a little freaked out... Lots of talk suggesting the shutdown was a coup. If you think a shutdown is a coup, well, then, might as well start fighting back.

      1. Hillary's Clitdong   12 years ago

        DU has always been insane. Going into any discussion about Republicans is like going into a Freeper discussion about gays in the military. Mutterings about treason, open declarations of treason, and a general attitude that only dictatorial violence can save the Republic.

        1. Beautiful Bean Footage   12 years ago

          What about chancellor Palpatine?

      2. Tonio   12 years ago

        When you look into the Abyss, SG...

        1. SweatingGin   12 years ago

          I want as much warning as I can get before they start trying to put libertarians and teabaggers and anarchists into camps.

          1. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

            TRAINSZZZ!

          2. jesse.in.mb   12 years ago

            I doubt it'll be much of a surprise when they get around to it and for now you can save your sanity by not going there.

          3. Paul.   12 years ago

            I want as much warning as I can get before they start trying to put libertarians and teabaggers and anarchists into camps.

            What do you call civic leaders' demands that everyone live in a high-density, walkable neighborhood along transit corridors with ride-share programs?

      3. Paul.   12 years ago

        Last night's dive into the bowels of DU and Kos had me a little freaked out... Lots of talk suggesting the shutdown was a coup

        In a way it is. If you believe in the total state, then anything less, is going to be seen as a coup.

        1. Dweebston   12 years ago

          I fully support the posters from DU and their fellow travelers going insurgent against the United States. The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy, and I have no problem whatsoever with seeing a bunch of wannabe-revolutionaries hoping to topple the current regime and put in place their Stalinist vision of utopia incarcerated, hanged, or gunned down.

  12. Paul.   12 years ago

    Hey, in picture #2, is that a Patrol Rifle with a high capacity mag? Good thing they've got those to defend Dianne Feinstein. Otherwise, if we stuck to the originalist intent of the constitution, that uniformed member of the Well Regulated Militia would have only a musket.

  13. Being Waterboarded   12 years ago

    If only they'd had the NPS around to put up impenetrable barricades around the capitol building... that would definitely stop the shooter(s).

    1. CE   12 years ago

      I hope it wasn't a WWII vet trying to shoot his way into the memorial.

      1. Rich   12 years ago

        Or a WWWIII vet.

      2. Zeb   12 years ago

        I sort of hope it was that. Seems like a good way to go out.

    2. Muzzle of Bees   12 years ago

      Well, they have gun-free zone signs, don't they? Barricades are unnecessary.

  14. sarcasmic   12 years ago

    *Peels another string off a brick of firecrackers...*

  15. Warty   12 years ago

    Oh good, I was wondering when something would happen to make the national discourse get even stupider.

    1. SweatingGin   12 years ago

      Set course for peak derp! Full speed ahead!

      1. Ted S.   12 years ago

        You'll never make it to Peak Derp.

        1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

          Wherever you are you're always halfway there.

        2. JW   12 years ago

          In DC, we refer to it as Mount Derp.

          One simply does not walk into DC. You drive in. Shooting.

          1. Dr. Frankenstien   12 years ago

            That's only to distract the eye of Obama from the ring bearers.

        3. Almanian!   12 years ago

          It's important to have stretch goals. And Peak Retard is one of the stretchiest...

    2. Hillary's Clitdong   12 years ago

      Warty! Why aren't you out raping and pillaging like all the other good libertarians? You know the only thing holding us back from introducing our fellow Americans to non-consensual buttsex was the calming presence of the beneficent U.S. government.

      1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

        He posts from his cell. At the time he was posting, he was in transit with his next victim hog-tied in the bed of the truck.

    3. Rich   12 years ago

      To be followed in short order by "This is unacceptable. We must take action to ensure that all these things that keep happening never happen again."

  16. Juice   12 years ago

    It said that cops heard that shots were fired over the radio. If you were anywhere in the vicinity, it would be pretty unmistakable if you heard actual gunshots, no?

    1. Invisible Finger   12 years ago

      Shots fired over the radio? Is that like Moe poking Curly's eyes over the phone?

      1. Mainer2   12 years ago

        He's not a moron, he's an imbecile.

  17. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

    Some copp was injured in a car accident. My guess would be the "bangs" people reported hearing was the sound of the accident.

    1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

      Or the cop executing the other party in the accident.

      1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   12 years ago

        There may have been dogs involved.

      2. Apatheist ?_??   12 years ago

        Actually... that's what some people are reporting now. That the shots were LO.

      3. Apatheist ?_??   12 years ago

        Actually... that's what some people are reporting now. That the shots were LO.

        1. Apatheist ?_??   12 years ago

          LEO

          1. SugarFree   12 years ago

            POS

            1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

              redundant much?

              1. SugarFree   12 years ago

                I was merely correcting his spelling. No need to get shirty.

        2. Ted S.   12 years ago

          They're reporting it twice, too. 😉

      4. Loki   12 years ago

        Shots were fired... procedures were followed...

      5. CE   12 years ago

        Sounds like sarcasmic predicted it right. I wonder if the driver actually meant to hit the White House barricades, or if it was just an accident.

    2. John Thacker   12 years ago

      They're saying that the suspect jumped out of the car and starting shooting. Of course, could have been the cops shooting.

      But sounds like this was an ordinary criminal car chase that happened to go by Pennsylvania Ave. Though it may change.

      1. Loki   12 years ago

        I'm sure it was some TEATHUGSEKWESTERSHUTDOWNIKKKLAN out to try and assassinate the president and then tried to get to the capital to assassinate as many Dem congress creatures as possible. /MSNBC

  18. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   12 years ago

    Hahaha, CNN laments that the Capitol Police is short-staffed and suffering from furloughs but then reminds us that the Secret Service is fully staffed to protect the President and are swarming the Capitol.

    1. Brandon   12 years ago

      CNN also showed a couple of SS agents who were sort of slowly strolling around until they noticed the camera on them, and then they broke into the standard "we're important" suit-coat-flapping jog.

      1. DJF   12 years ago

        Dilbert as always has it covered.

        http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2013-08-21/

        1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

          I used to do that back in my high school fast food days, until a Mexican called me on it by saying "You walk around a lot but you never get anything done, cabron."

        2. Almanian!   12 years ago

          Hah! We call that "pager face" (from back in the olden days when we had pagers). Look at your phone like you got a text, make appropriate face ("SHIT!" "Uh oh" "SURPRISE!") - leave meeting.

          "I...gotta....*points at phone - exits*..."

          Works. Every. Time.

      2. General Butt Naked   12 years ago

        It's hard to get those long leather coats moving. You have to start slow.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    I'm assuming this is a House Republican with an AR-15.

    1. Hillary's Clitdong   12 years ago

      I assumed it was Joe Biden firing shotgun blasts into the air to scare off Republicans.

      1. Banjos   12 years ago

        Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

      2. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

        +12 gauge

        1. Almanian!   12 years ago

          I bet The President (PBUH) only used 20ga. Cause - pussy.

  20. Brian   12 years ago

    Someone needs to explain to this guy that only the government can legitimately use violence.

    1. CE   12 years ago

      During the chase, use of force was authorized, and when the car neared the Capitol, the driver, a woman, was shot.

      Use of force is always authorized for cops when people act uppity. It's not like they wait from clearance from HQ to use force.

      CNN reports that all the shots fired during the incident today were fired by law enforcement.

      So, not a right wing whacko, not a non-essential DC worker, not a terrorist, not a wannabe revolutionary from Judicial Watch or TNR, but a cop shooting someone for having a traffic accident and fleeing.

  21. SweatingGin   12 years ago

    "SHELTER IN PLACE. Gunshots have been reported on Capitol Hill requiring all occupants in all House Office Buildings to shelter in place. Close, lock and stay away from external doors and windows. Take annunciators, Go Kits and escape hoods; and move to the innermost part of the office away from external doors or windows. If you are not in your office, take shelter in the nearest office, check in with your OEC and wait for USCP to clear the incident. No one will be permitted to enter or exit the building until directed by USCP. All staff should monitor the situation. Further information will be provided as it becomes available."

    What the hell is an annunciator?

    1. jesse.in.mb   12 years ago

      What the hell is an annunciator?

      I'm guessing it's a bullhorn from the Potterverse.

      1. Bardas Phocas   12 years ago

        or a steampunk cellphone.

    2. Hillary's Clitdong   12 years ago

      Take annunciators, Go Kits and escape hoods

      This announcement sounds like it came straight out of Bioshock.

      1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

        I was messing around with Bioshock 2 this weekend. Can't believe it wants me to create a Windows Live account just to save a fucking single player game. Ugly ass WL interface intercedes over the lovely native Bioshock one, demanding me to create an account. I am not cooperating with that shit. Just using the respawn on death and not shutting it down. Got plenty of memory to spare on that system..

        1. Marc F Cheney   12 years ago

          Bioshock 2 : Bioshock :: Borderlands 2 : Borderlands.

          Yeah, you heard me.

          1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

            Except, it's completely backwards!

    3. Tonio   12 years ago

      What the hell is an annunciator?

      Good question.

      My best guess is that it's a specialized radio receiver so they can get the "all clear" signal. Again, just a moderately informed guess.

      But what these are and how much they cost should be followed up on after the danger is over.

    4. Tonio   12 years ago

      Escape hoods. Basically clear plastic sacks you put over your head in case of a bio or chem incident so you can theoretically make it outside while rebreathing your own air.

      Not sure whether these are actually efficacious or more of a placebo.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder   12 years ago

        Sounds like a great plot device for a horror flick

      2. JW   12 years ago

        What!? Bullets pass right through these things!

      3. pan fried wylie   12 years ago

        I was thinking black plastic, so a shooter would be less able to identify targets.

      4. CE   12 years ago

        Sounds like a good way to suffocate.

      5. Cunctator   12 years ago

        ---Escape hoods. Basically clear plastic sacks you put over your head in case of a bio or chem incident so you can theoretically make it outside while rebreathing your own air.---

        I worked in a chemical plant and our escape hoods had small air cylinders (5 min. I believe)so that you could hopefully reach a safe area. I doubt that they are referring to plain plastic bags.

    5. TANSTaaFL   12 years ago

      What the hell is an annunciator?

      isnt it that annoying guy in the office that interrupts you after you use a fancy/foreign word and says, "it is actually pronounced..."

      right?

      1. mr simple   12 years ago

        No it's your own personal Garrett Morris helping you speak to the hard of hearing.

        1. TANSTaaFL   12 years ago

          nice

    6. CE   12 years ago

      What's an escape hood? And what good does it do if you're sheltering in place?

  22. jorgeborges   12 years ago

    If anybody was wondering, here are the active shooter and shelter in place training government employees take:

    http://www.dhs.gov/video/options-cons.....ning-video

    emilms.fema.gov/IS907/index.htm
    http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/evacu.....procedures

  23. Hyperion   12 years ago

    Teabaggers! Probably paid by Ted Cruz. Let's not wait for facts, we know it's teabaggers!

  24. thom   12 years ago

    Clean out the super-mutants.

    1. Hillary's Clitdong   12 years ago

      Just three days of shutdown and they've already seized the entire Mall. Time to strap on the power armor.

      1. Ska   12 years ago

        The Brotherhood's Paladins have been furloughed and are not offering Power Armor training.

        1. Bardas Phocas   12 years ago

          Power armor is overrated anyway.

          1. Cascadian Ephor Xenocles   12 years ago

            I've still got my pseudo-chitin armor from the Wasteland days.

          2. JWatts   12 years ago

            Yes, but it sure looks a lot cooler than the combat armor mark 2.

        2. Long Range Boredom   12 years ago

          Now you've got to go all the way to Vegas for Power Armor training.

  25. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

    Someone reporting 10-15 shots fired (via local NBC station)

    1. Hyperion   12 years ago

      That's only enough to take down one dangerous medium size puppy, if he's headed straight at you.

    2. JW   12 years ago

      Christopher Dorner, was spotted on Capitol Hill.

  26. CE   12 years ago

    Should we blame TNR?

    1. Almanian!   12 years ago

      I blame Bush

  27. Paul.   12 years ago

    OT:

    On August 2, Raven-Symone, who played adorable Olivia on "The Cosby Show," indicated for the first time she is a lesbian. She first tweeted the news: "I can finally get married! Yay government!

    No word on whether Raven-Symone yelled "Yay Government!" when she was barred from marriage by the same institution.

    1. Tonio   12 years ago

      Timing, dude.

    2. Robert   12 years ago

      People think of gov't action in terms of changes in gov't action. As in "Keep gov't's hands off my Medicare."

      Meanwhile, reading this comment thread at this hour has me LOL like I can never remember LOL in HyR. My sides, sore from Valsalva maneuvering from a very hard BM days ago, are sore again from laughing.

  28. CE   12 years ago

    Yahoo News reports on Twitter: "Police were chasing a black car near the Capitol building. They cornered the car and that's when shots rang out."

    Oh no. Now they're going to blame GTA V.

    1. CE   12 years ago

      Sounds now like it was a mother with a child driving an SUV. Maybe she was frustrated by trying to sign up for Obamacare.

  29. Episiarch   12 years ago

    Fucking hell. All we need is the politicians freaking out about their own safety (because that's all they really care about). Plus this could easily be fodder for another TEAM OUTRAGE orgy, even as they are getting their outrage boners hard over the "shutdown". It'll be exponential outrage.

    1. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

      Oh, good to see you here - I was afraid it was you!

      "Police were chasing a black car near the Capitol building. They cornered the car and that's when shots rang out."

      1. Episiarch   12 years ago

        I can't go to DC. It would be like the antichrist going to the Vatican. I would probably burst into flames.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder   12 years ago

          Wait a minute. I thought the AntiChrist lived at the Vatican.

          At least that what I learned from the moving pictures.

          1. Episiarch   12 years ago

            He was only an ambassador in Omen III, dude. Get your movies straight.

          2. General Butt Naked   12 years ago

            I thought the AntiChrist lived at the Vatican.

            He does, just like the alpha-anarchist Boehner lives in DeeCee.

          3. Zeb   12 years ago

            I always sort of thought the Pope was the Antichrist.

            1. Matrix   12 years ago

              Jesus is the anti-christ

      2. Paul.   12 years ago

        By the way, has there been any confirmation at all that the shots that were ringing out were from an unlicensed gun owner? The shots could have been 100% cop shots.

        1. CE   12 years ago

          Bingo.

    2. SweatingGin   12 years ago

      This is going to be a "popping blood vessels" level of outrage boner.

  30. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    MSNBC is interviewing Peter King.

    He hasn't blamed Rand Paul, YET.

    1. John Thacker   12 years ago

      I'd LOVE to hear them ask if he now knows how Margaret Thatcher must have felt in Brighton.

  31. setTHEline   12 years ago

    Oh no, this is like Olympus Has Fallen all over again. Did anyone check on the president's son?

    1. Loki   12 years ago

      Dude, not cool to bring up such a sensitive issue! The president's son was shot in cold blood last year by that racist white hispanic (it's the white part that makes him racist) down in Florida, remember? Then a jury of Florida KKK members let the bastard off the hook.

    2. Killazontherun   12 years ago

      Still dead.

  32. Bam!   12 years ago

    Drudge: "REPORT: SHOTS MAY HAVE BEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT..."

  33. John   12 years ago

    I wonder how many orgasms Sad Beard and Joan Walsh have had in anticipation of it being a Republican!!!

    1. Episiarch   12 years ago

      They're both smoking cigarettes right now, if that answers your question.

      1. SugarFree   12 years ago

        And neither are using their mouths.

        1. Tonio   12 years ago

          They love us long time?

          1. SugarFree   12 years ago

            Titty-titty bang pow.

        2. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

          hence the term "Blowing Smoke outta yer Ass?"

          Or is this some other entry point?

          1. Zeb   12 years ago

            I bet you can figure that out on your own.

          2. pan fried wylie   12 years ago

            people used to administer enemas of tobacco smoke, so I bet that's where the phrase originated.

            1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

              It was all the rage in opium dens the world over from Boston to London, from Paris to Shanghai, in the Summer of 1887 to get your fix straight through the ass. Promoted as a health tonic.

    2. Neoliberal Kochtopus   12 years ago

      Matt Yglesias ?@mattyglesias 41m
      Capitol Police responding to shooting incident are working without pay today.

      Matt Yglesias ?@mattyglesias 35m
      To be more precise, Capitol Police will have to skip their next paycheck if the shutdown extends: http://wapo.st/17xwBl6

      That isn't being more precise, Sadbeard. That's called being wrong and then refusing to acknowledge the error.

      1. John   12 years ago

        To be more precise, this called talking out of your ass and not knowing anything.

      2. wwhorton   12 years ago

        I just heard some idiot repeat this same line twice on the Chris Matthews show as if it were gospel fact. And Fox News gets a bad rap?

    3. Loki   12 years ago

      The real question is how hard did they cum in anticipation of the news that the gunman had killed Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.

      1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

        If she turned out to be a disillusioned Obama supporter who instead of getting free shit found out she could not even register onto Obamacare would we ever hear about it in the MSM?

        1. JWatts   12 years ago

          If she turned out to be a disillusioned Obama supporter who instead of getting free shit found out she could not even register onto Obamacare would we ever hear about it in the MSM?

          Sure, but they might have highlighted other aspects of the story.

          Something like: Distraught youth is driven to seek social justice due to racist Republican obstructionism.

  34. NoVAHockey   12 years ago

    reportedly ...local crime from DC ended on the Hill.
    you have be extra dumb to end your car chase there, but here we are.

    1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

      That sounds about right.

    2. JW   12 years ago

      My first thought.

    3. wwhorton   12 years ago

      Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me. Lexus isn't a popular make among the lunatic shooters, but I've seen more than a few loced-out g's cruising around in them.

  35. setTHEline   12 years ago

    No! This is basically how Olympus Has Fallen played out. Has anyone checked on the president's son?

    1. setTHEline   12 years ago

      Repost, damnit this site is overloaded right now.

      1. Neoliberal Kochtopus   12 years ago

        No no, new guy. We always take a siesta at 3 PM.

    2. SweatingGin   12 years ago

      You have to tell us what happens, you're the only one who saw it.

      1. setTHEline   12 years ago

        And I regret watching it everyday. All I learned from it was that we should probably just bomb North Korea preemptively before they somehow fly a C51 over the white house and drive an AFV through the front gates.

  36. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    MSNBC is interviewing Peter King.

    He hasn't blamed Rand Paul, YET.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder   12 years ago

      Perfect question for King:

      We heard that the perpetrators were drunk. Do you think that somehow the IRA was involved?

  37. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Skwerlz.

    At three o'clock.

    Shift change?

  38. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

    Lockdown lifted.

    1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   12 years ago

      Get back to work!

      1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        I'm on a conference call, so technically....

        (I did forget to mute my phone, so they could hear the local news coverage in the background. Oops)

        1. Paul.   12 years ago

          Put 'em on hold. that's my favorite in a conference call. Let everyone else hear your hold music.

        2. Tonio   12 years ago

          Nice (both).

      2. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

        Get back to work furlough!

        1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

          Got another week and 1/2 til I'm furloughed, alas. I was hoping for another Vermont getaway. Maybe it'll go longer and I'll get furloughed after all.

          1. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

            I think I speak for all of us (except Tony and Shriek) when I say we hope you get a long and relaxing break in VT...

          2. Zeb   12 years ago

            Maybe you'll get lucky and they will do another shutdown during ski season.

            1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

              I got furloughed from Fannie Mae many years ago for two weeks right at the holidays. It rained in Vermont. I am a jinx on good ski weather.

              But this winter, it's gonna be Deer Valley. Yes, this northeast ski chauvinist is going to Utah of all places.

              1. Clich? Bandit   12 years ago

                You should come to COLORADO where we actually have good skiing...you know, more than three poorly planned out runs that are less than a quarter mile long. Ohh and snow too. that is important.

                1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

                  Not enough beginner terrain at the ski areas I've checked in CO. Deer Valley has pretty much everything my Pa and I want: craploads of beginner runs and no snowboarding.

                  1. RBS   12 years ago

                    craploads of beginner runs

                    I don't even know how to respond to this.

                  2. Clich? Bandit   12 years ago

                    no snowboarding

                    and I don't known how to respond to this other than:

                    YOU ARE DEAD TO ME!

                    1. Clich? Bandit   12 years ago

                      Ohh and about all that, Breckenridge is basically one big flat boring mountain for "beginners" i.e. people with no balls. And therefore has very few snowboarders. If you ever want to avoid boarders just go where there is no slope, cause we don't need no stinking poles.

  39. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    The enemy is, as we all know, us.

    1. Mainer2   12 years ago

      + 1 Pogo

  40. Bam!   12 years ago

    Fox News now saying that a car tried to ram the White House gate.

    1. Rich   12 years ago

      "SIGN ME UP FOR OBAMACARE DAMMIT!!"

      1. Hyperion   12 years ago

        Lol, I can see it. Woman waits 3 days, still no free pony and birth control. RAGE!

  41. Outlaw   12 years ago

    If there was a car chase it was probably gang-related.

    Thank god for small favors.

  42. Invisible Finger   12 years ago

    Does anyone really NEED Washington D.C.?

    1. Bam!   12 years ago

      Anyone? Sure: Politicians, news media, and leeches.

      1. pan fried wylie   12 years ago

        So many synonyms for leach, i had no idea!

  43. wakeup   12 years ago

    FALSE FLAG

    1. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

      As opposed to TRUE FLAG?

  44. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

    Latest from local NBC: some chick tried to ram the White House gate, and Secret Svc chased her in the direction of the Capitol.

    1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

      Chick bailed, supposedly fired upon cops (major grain of salt on that as we all know), then cops shot her.

      1. NoVAHockey   12 years ago

        she had a kid with her. i bet she was unarmed.

        1. DK   12 years ago

          So the cops mistook her kid as an assault weapon. Makes sense.

          1. Hyperion   12 years ago

            Kidz are assault weapons. Have you ever seen one in a grocery store when they don't get those sweeties?

            1. Tonio   12 years ago

              Those are area weapons, Hyper.

            2. PD Scott   12 years ago

              Frequently laded with germs, too, so technically a biological weapon delivery system.

            3. Dweebston   12 years ago

              That doesn't make them assault weapons, Hyp, but assault victims.

        2. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

          Seems like pretty much 99% of the time the suspect is unarmed.

        3. sarcasmic   12 years ago

          totality of circumstances ... furtive movements ... appeared to be armed ... feared for his life ...

          1. NoVAHockey   12 years ago

            apparnetly she did run down an officer.

            1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

              Give her a medal.

        4. Tonio   12 years ago

          But was the kid armed?

          1. Loki   12 years ago

            Yes... with a gun shaped pop tart.

            1. trshmnstr   12 years ago

              +1 hundred percent of your daily value of sodium and insects that got into the machinery.

      2. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   12 years ago

        A woman huh? That's an intersting twist. Well here's hoping she's like a Squeaky Fromme-type cultist.

        1. Tonio   12 years ago

          That would be interesting. It would certainly

          Dick move endangering your kid and other random motorists, pedestrians, etc, though.

          She'll probably get NGRI.

          1. Tonio   12 years ago

            It would certainly be embarrassing for the "all violence is perpetrated by white males" crowd, though.

            1. SugarFree   12 years ago

              They ignore anything that doesn't fit. Like that black shooter that announced that he was targeting white people only doesn't even get mentioned, much less them howling for hate crime statutes to be used against him.

          2. Robert   12 years ago

            Pl. of NGRO?

    2. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

      Sarah Palin?

      Zombie Ted Kennedy in drag?

      1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        My guess would be Ann Coulter in drag. In other words, her usual outfit.

        Possibly Michelle O. in an unflattering A-line dress and cardigan.

    3. Bardas Phocas   12 years ago

      She spent the last three days staring at the Obamacare website not loading. The little wheel going round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round.

      The she broke.

    4. John Thacker   12 years ago

      Hmm, so perhaps it was political then. But mostly craziness.

    5. Ted S.   12 years ago

      If it's a woman, it's obviously not a Republican. 😉

  45. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Why do I assume these MSNBC chicks are desperately hoping they can pin this on some sort of tea party gun nut?

    1. Loki   12 years ago

      Because they are?

    2. Zeb   12 years ago

      Well, they do everything desperately. And I am sort of casually hoping that it can be pinned on a violent leftist and/or non-political crazy person. So it makes sense to me.

  46. Hyperion   12 years ago

    Damn, they're saying the shooter was a woman.

    Raging feminist?

    1. Bam!   12 years ago

      Can't be a feminist: She had a child with her.

      1. Hyperion   12 years ago

        Maybe she borrowed it to late abort because no one would impregnate her so that she could get an abortion?

      2. Rich   12 years ago

        Awesome. Iconic.

      3. Robert   12 years ago

        Raging Granny, then?

    2. Episiarch   12 years ago

      If the shooter was a woman, TEAM OUTRAGE is going to be pissed that they don't have the right kind of subject for an outrage orgy. Hey, maybe they can get outraged about that!

      1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   12 years ago

        She was obviously driven to desperation by Republican cuts to SNAP, Headstart, and Obamacare. That and years of thought-rape by the Make Gazing Patriarchy pushed her towards this.

        1. Episiarch   12 years ago

          So you're saying Warty is to blame? I can buy that.

          1. Tonio   12 years ago

            Warty is always somehow to blame.

            1. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

              Agreed.

            2. Dr. Frankenstien   12 years ago

              6 degrees of separation of blame?

        2. TANSTaaFL   12 years ago

          in other words, "Any white male" is truly responsible

    3. Loki   12 years ago

      Probably out to stop the TEATHUGLICAN WAR ON WYMMENZ!!!11!!!111!!

      Hey, if the prog-tards can wantonly speculate about a Tea Party connection every time we have a shooting, why can't I wantonly speculate about a prog-derp connection to this one?

      ...oh, right, because it's different when they do it.

    4. John Thacker   12 years ago

      Some sort of crazy. Could be someone that agrees with me on political question; could be someone that disagrees, or anything in between. But definitely crazy.

    5. CE   12 years ago

      Who, it turns out, was unarmed.

  47. Bam!   12 years ago

    Just another reason why women shouldn't be allowed to drive.

    1. John Thacker   12 years ago

      Damages their ovaries, the Saudis will have you know.

    2. Hyperion   12 years ago

      This is why there are no libertarian wiminz...

      1. Bam!   12 years ago

        Because they can't make it all the way to the meetings?

  48. Rufus J. Firefly   12 years ago

    ABC reported she was 'neutralized.'

    1. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

      That could mean many things.

      1. pmains   12 years ago

        For example, she may have been highly acidic, so they dowsed her with baking soda.

        In this case, though, it just means that they killed her. That's the scoop from CNN's front page.

        1. pmains   12 years ago

          Ack. Doused her.

          1. Clich? Bandit   12 years ago

            well they could also have divined her as a water source so you may still be correct.

      2. CE   12 years ago

        She's dead, unfortunately.

    2. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

      OFFICER SAFETY!

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder   12 years ago

      Ventilated seems more appropo

    4. Rich   12 years ago

      Now "dead".

      1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

        "I executed that bitch right in front her kid! It was awesome!"

      2. JW   12 years ago

        "Police said there were no weapons found in the suspect's car."

        Surpise! Surpise! Surpise!

  49. DK   12 years ago

    Damn it! Why isn't Suderman updating the post with rampant speculation!

    1. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

      It is up to us!

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder   12 years ago

      That's our job. Don't encourage Reason to clutter their damn website any more than they already have.

  50. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   12 years ago

    Well a cop was reportedly wounded, so either she was armed or another cop shot him. Not sure which is more likely.

    1. Bam!   12 years ago

      He could've shot himself.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder   12 years ago

        5 year old stole his gun and shot him with it. Suspect got away.

      2. NoVAHockey   12 years ago

        hit by the car.

        1. Ted S.   12 years ago

          Only after he shot the woman and she was no longer able to stop the car.

    2. Rich   12 years ago

      Hey! He could have shot *himself*!

      /Rampant speculation

  51. Another David   12 years ago

    So it turns out that being locked in a hearing room for half an hour while hoping the speculation about the shooter being outside the building is in fact true, is not a fun way to spend an afternoon. At least it got me out of some work?

    1. Rich   12 years ago

      Don't forget to retrieve your annunciator.

      1. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

        And your hood.

        1. CE   12 years ago

          You know who else used an annunciator and wore a hood?

    2. Tonio   12 years ago

      So can you tell us about the annunciators, AD?

      1. pmains   12 years ago

        an?nun?ci?a?tor
        /??n?ns???t?r/
        noun
        noun: annunciator;?plural noun: annunciators

        1. a bell, light, or other device that provides information on the state or condition of something by indicating which of several electrical circuits has been activated.
        "the annunciator panel and warning lights"

        So, some kind of device that blinks or dings when the police send the "all clear" signal.

        1. Robert   12 years ago

          You're speculating on that last bit. It could alert to when Good Humor is on the block.

  52. Bam!   12 years ago

    I don't think it's good to reference Yahoo! reporters on live TV. "We heard from a political yahoo reporter."

  53. Rufus J. Firefly   12 years ago

    No matter who it is/was and what the motivation is/was, the narrative has been set on the other side and they will spin accordingly.

    1. Anonymous Coward   12 years ago

      Only ratbagging teathuglicans would dare to shoot someone in the Forbidden City...I mean, Washington D.C.

  54. Hyperion   12 years ago

    Could this be the first case of Obamacare sign up rage?

    1. Tonio   12 years ago

      We may never know since the suspect is dead.

      But if it is, it will be blamed on evil, selfish people who kept delaying this then sabotaging it once it passed.

      1. Rich   12 years ago

        "She would have left a note, if only our education system had not failed her."

      2. jesse.in.mb   12 years ago

        We may never know since the suspect is dead.

        I'm sure she posted a status to Facebook first.

        1. Almanian!   12 years ago

          "Look, Ma! I'm playin' GTA5 in DC, yo!"

      3. Broseph of Invention   12 years ago

        "Woman Dead Due To Lack of Healthcare Access"

    2. Hyperion   12 years ago

      If so, I have some good advice for the outraged free stuff crowd, or disgruntled workers, whatever. Better behave yourself, despite how special you think you are, your dear leaders goons will not hesitate to shoot you down.

  55. Rasilio   12 years ago

    "the driver, a woman, was shot and killed. Additional reports indicate that a child was also in the black vehicle in question. "

    So Barry's illegitimate love child?

    1. Almanian!   12 years ago

      "If I had a dead wife, she'd look like that driver..."

    2. Rich   12 years ago

      Why is the vehicle's *color* so important?

      Does it have one of those shoulder thing ... Oh, never mind.

      1. Almanian!   12 years ago

        DEADLY ASSAULT CROWN VIC!!11!!

        No one NEEDS a 30 round gallon gas tank...

    3. Cascadian Ephor Xenocles   12 years ago

      It was also a hooded vehicle.

      1. Almanian!   12 years ago

        So - an uncircumcised car? Good to know, even if a little TMI....

        1. Cascadian Ephor Xenocles   12 years ago

          No, I mean it was wearing a hoodie. God!

          1. jesse.in.mb   12 years ago

            You seem offended by the idea of an uncircumcised car. Have you talked with Nicole about this? She has strong opinions on the matter.

            1. Cascadian Ephor Xenocles   12 years ago

              Why are you insisting it was circumcised? Are you trying to say it was the JOOZ?

              JOOZ!

              1. Almanian!   12 years ago

                HAHA! The plot thickens!

                1. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

                  Was a deep dish pizza found at the scene?!

              2. jesse.in.mb   12 years ago

                Where did I insist it was circumcised? I was just calling you out on your culture bound fear of prepuce enabled vehicles, bro.

                Also it's ALWAYS the JOOZ, amirite?

          2. Michael   12 years ago

            Why is God wearing a hoodie?

  56. BoscoH   12 years ago

    During the chase, use of force was authorized, and when the car neared the Capitol, the driver, a woman, was shot and killed. Additional reports indicate that a child was also in the black vehicle in question.

    "Better shoot the women and children first." Signed, David Lee Roth

    1. Almanian!   12 years ago

      Sail away with someone's daughter...

    2. Bardas Phocas   12 years ago

      "Use of excessive force in the apprehension of the Blues Brothers has been approved."
      http://cheezburger.com/1573870848

  57. Almanian!   12 years ago

    So - we've established that the woman was an Angry White Male?. Any news on whether she's just plain old Tea Party or full-on Sarah Palin-lovin' NRA instructor?

  58. John   12 years ago

    If I had to bet, I bet she was unarmed and the shots fired were all cops. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a warrant outstanding, accidentally ran into the White House gate, panicked and is now dead because of it. That seems more likely than anything else.

    1. Almanian!   12 years ago

      Who are you, who is so wise in the ways of science?

      *lifts up faceguard on helmet*

      1. Mainer2   12 years ago

        Did she weigh the same as a duck ?

    2. NoVAHockey   12 years ago

      or she was just crazy.

      i find it hard to believe a women would take her kid and try to shoot it out with the secret service and/or capitol hill police.

      1. John Thacker   12 years ago

        Unless, as you said, crazy. The kid in the car makes it really nuts.

      2. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        Or high.

    3. Episiarch   12 years ago

      Dude, her brakes could have failed, if we want to speculate on innocent scenarios. They'd shoot her for that too. It's going to be interesting how they spin this.

      1. John Thacker   12 years ago

        She could have gotten lost and panicked.

        The whole situation is pretty crazy.

        Not as crazy as the two guys from Tupelo, MS and the ricin, though.

      2. John   12 years ago

        That too. All of these things make more sense than her being some nut who took her kid with her to shoot it out with Congress.

        1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

          It says she rammed a barricade, then drove off at a high rate of speed. Say she rammed it on accident. Well, she still would have sped off because at that point cops would be shooting first and asking questions later. One thing is for sure. We'll never know the truth. She signed her death warrant the moment the car touched the barrier.

          1. John Thacker   12 years ago

            Right, it's a barricade like a block away, not the "White House gates." There's multiple layers of barriers preventing people from driving right up.

          2. John   12 years ago

            She may have some warrant out for her and faced losing her kid to the state. she may have panicked. And of course once she was running, they had to shoot her.

            1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

              And of course once she was running, they had to shoot her.

              She disobeyed a lawful command. That crime carries a death sentence.

              1. Mainer2   12 years ago

                To be administered on the spot

          3. Hyperion   12 years ago

            She was just trying to make it to the Obamacare exchanges, and when she couldn't find them, thought she'd drive up to the whitehouse and ask dear leader personally. Bad ideaer.

        2. Loki   12 years ago

          All of these things make more sense than her being some nut who took her kid with her to shoot it out with Congress.

          Maybe she was a furloughed federal employee who was having trouble signing up for the Obamacare Exchanges and decided she just couldn't take it anymore. She took her kid with her because she hoping the cops would kill them both because she didn't want her child growing up in a world where racist obstructionist Teathuglicans can shutdown the government and sabotage the healthcare exchanges instead of just doing whatever the God King wanted.

      3. CatoTheElder   12 years ago

        Does the name Michael Hastings ring a bell?

  59. SIV   12 years ago

    Was she unarmed and they shot her as she was driving?

    1. Almanian!   12 years ago

      Unarmed? UNARMED??! SHE HAD A DEADLY ASSAULT VEHICLE!!! We need to bad those things. No one NEEDS four doors...

      1. Bardas Phocas   12 years ago

        Note: a BLACK Assault vehicle.
        They're ten times as deadly as silver ones.

        1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   12 years ago

          If you've seen a black assault vehicle you'll know how incredibly fleet of foot they are.

          1. Almanian!   12 years ago

            "It was coming right at me..."

      2. Loki   12 years ago

        No one needs a car that weighs more than 1.5 tons.

      3. Dr. Frankenstien   12 years ago

        As long as it didn't have eight cylinders.

        1. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

          You can have an eight cylinder engine, you just can't load more than 7.

  60. cryptarchy   12 years ago

    I saw the map of the capital building and all I could think of was the trenches and super mutants that surround the area

    1. Dweebston   12 years ago

      +3

    2. Hyperion   12 years ago

      The super mutants are really there, they're called congress critters. The trenches will be added later.

  61. Outlaw   12 years ago

    A dog was driving the car.

    END OF STORY.

    1. Almanian!   12 years ago

      -17 rounds

    2. Rasilio   12 years ago

      Commenting on this poor womans looks is entirely uncalled for.

  62. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Apparently it was a woman with a child, enraged at not being able to take a tour of the White House.

    1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   12 years ago

      Well okay then. We can blame the Teapublicans!!

    2. Almanian!   12 years ago

      I hope the Teathuglihadists are happy with themselves.

  63. NoVAHockey   12 years ago

    the capitol hill cop just declined to say the suspect opened fire.
    so, yeah.

    1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   12 years ago

      So cops get in front of car, pump it full of lead, and one cop gets hit by the car as the shot woman can no longer stop it?

    2. RBS   12 years ago

      Wait, so this is basically a standard cop vs non-cop scenario but since it's near the Capitol it's being treated like a potential "terrorist" attack?

      1. Episiarch   12 years ago

        Of course. I mean, we need to get more info but a mom engaging in a terrorist attack with her kid in the car? Are you familiar with the old robot saying "DOES NOT COMPUTE"?

        1. RBS   12 years ago

          A girl I know is freaking out on facebook. I didn't have the heart to tell her the shots fired were from the police.

          1. Episiarch   12 years ago

            No, you should just tell her that mommy just got executed by the police for hitting a barrier.

            1. Hyperion   12 years ago

              That's not a nice story. This is a nice story:

              Crazed teabagger woman goes on rampage through DC in scary black assault vehicle, tries to run down cops, then attempts to smash into the whitehouse and kill the King of America.

              Our brave boys in shining blue selflessly fling themselves in front of the car to try to stop her, but they are no match for the huge assault vehicle of death. Finally, they have no choice but to fire on her, to save the innocent child inside, and to stop the assasination attempt on the King.

              And we all lived happily ever after.

              1. Mad Scientist   12 years ago

                You forgot the part about the brave heroes working for free.

  64. John Thacker   12 years ago

    Apparently no officer was shot; officer was injured in the car chase, perhaps.

    Hmm. So the only shooting was the police, it seems. If this is tragic accident / itchy trigger finger cops, where the mother was just confused and rammed the barrier.... ugh.

    1. NoVAHockey   12 years ago

      and think that the cops managed to shoot somebody else too.
      but i may have heard that incorrectly.

  65. benji   12 years ago

    Where is Sarah Palin right now? We can't rule out another targeted attack planned by her.

  66. SweatingGin   12 years ago

    The incident has concluded.

    We're living in Brazil (the movie) at this point, aren't we?

  67. Almanian!   12 years ago

    ERMAHGERD! WERMERN ANNA BERBEE INNA KERRRRR!!!

  68. wakeup   12 years ago

    FALSE FLAG I TOLD YOU

    1. Almanian!   12 years ago

      fuck me....

      1. jesse.in.mb   12 years ago

        fuck me....

        That seems like an unwise thing to say on a board where Warty posts (NTTAWWT)

        1. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

          "That seems like an unwise thing to say on a board where Warty posts"

          Or STEVE SMITH.

        2. Marc F Cheney   12 years ago

          Doesn't matter. Warty doesn't take requests; he is a created of pure instinct.

          1. Marc F Cheney   12 years ago

            *creature

      2. CatoTheElder   12 years ago

        If Alex Jones said it, it must be so.

    2. Clich? Bandit   12 years ago

      dat dude cray cray

      1. Robert   12 years ago

        Why are you not selling anything?

    3. John Thacker   12 years ago

      By calling everything a False Flag, Alex Jones acts like Chicken Little and makes Americans disregard actual False Flags when they occur. He's the real False Flag.

      Or something.

      1. Cascadian Ephor Xenocles   12 years ago

        It's a double false flag, like they talked about in that 9/11 South Park episode.

  69. Spoonman.   12 years ago

    Is the child confirmed to be OK, or did they shoot the kid too?

    1. Sudden   12 years ago

      The kid was fine. But he will be reconsidering dressing as a dog on Halloween, I'll tell you that much.

      1. Zeb   12 years ago

        I think "fine" might be a little optimistic. Most kids who watch their mom get shot do not come out of the experience "fine".

        1. Ska   12 years ago

          They end up on TV shows with horrible series finales.

    2. SugarFree   12 years ago

      Kids are usually fine after being doused in the blood of their mother. Just ask Dexter.

  70. Paul.   12 years ago

    During the chase, use of force was authorized, and when the car neared the Capitol, the driver, a woman, was shot. The woman has been taken to the hospital, but her condition has not been confirmed. Additional reports indicate that a child may have been in the black vehicle in question.

    One officer was reportedly injured during the incident.

    Ha! Fucking ha! I knew the shots were 100% cop. I knew it!

    1. benji   12 years ago

      the black vehicle

      racist

  71. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Lone female gunperson.

    "I blame society. Society made me what I am."

    1. Bam!   12 years ago

      Patriarchy!

      1. Lady Bertrum   12 years ago

        So, is this a moment of female empowerment or.....not so much?

        The sisters are doing it for themselves
        Standing on their own two feet
        Ringing their own bell....

  72. Almanian!   12 years ago

    Sean fucking Hannity on the radio where I am - "My prayers go out to the officer who was hit by the car..."

    Really, assfuck? MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE DEAD WOMAN'S BABY (and her, God rest her cold, dead, TEAHADIST soul)...

    1. Mainer2   12 years ago

      I litereally cannot stand to listen to Sean Hannity. His show is on the same station I listen to on my morning drive, and I literally cannot change the station fast enough when I drive home. His statist cock sucking literally makes me ill. I literally can't stand the man.

      1. Episiarch   12 years ago

        Hannity is a fucking ape. He is a shit-flinging, screaming, hateful TEAM RED partisan scumbag. He is the Ed Schultz of TEAM RED.

        1. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

          RED ED? That kinda fits...

        2. Mainer2   12 years ago

          So you literally don't like Sean Hannity.

          1. Episiarch   12 years ago

            You misspelled "despise".

            1. Mainer2   12 years ago

              Just so I understand, are you saying he's not really your cup of tea. Or that the mere mention of his name literally drives you into a murderous white hot rage ?

              1. Episiarch   12 years ago

                (pulls out knife, hides behind back)

                Who were you talking about again?

                (tenses, readies killing strike)

                1. Mainer2   12 years ago

                  (strolls away, hands clasped behind back, whistling tunelessly)

          2. Neoliberal Kochtopus   12 years ago

            His abuse of the word "literally" surpasses Joe Biden's. It really does.

            1. Mainer2   12 years ago

              Actually I lied above. I play a littel game on my drive home, I leave the radio on Hannity until the first time he says that word. So I may listen to him for literally 10 seconds or so.

            2. Loki   12 years ago

              His abuse of the word "literally" surpasses Joe Biden's. It really literally does.

              FTFY. Geez, do I to do everything myself?

      2. Fatty Bolger   12 years ago

        I litereally cannot stand to listen to Sean Hannity. His show is on the same station I listen to on my morning drive

        Well, you're driving so I wouldn't expect you to stand up anyway...

        [literally ducks]

        1. Mainer2   12 years ago

          And that's where you're wrong, pedantic breath. For no particular reason, I commute in a used UPS delivery truck, so I do stand to listen to the radio. Literally.

      3. Rufus J. Firefly   12 years ago

        I know to leftists I may sound crazy here but at least Limbaugh says stuff from time to time that deserve pondering. I don't think he's anywhere near as crazy as the left paints him. But Hannity. Holy crap. That guy is the opposite of Matthews. He looks like a little shnot.

        His type of conservatism is not conservatism in my view.

        And boy they love pimping the hero cop stuff.

        1. Mainer2   12 years ago

          Sean Hannity believes deeply in your freedom to live your life in a way that Sean Hannity approves of.

      4. trshmnstr   12 years ago

        Yep, i turn over to classical music until Levin comes on. Oh Levin, how I love your yelling.

    2. Robert   12 years ago

      If it's on the radio, how can you tell Sean is fucking Hannity? Sounds like the sort of thing they'd make up.

  73. Almanian!   12 years ago

    Nothing scarier than a woman and a baby in a car. NOTHING.

    1. Mainer2   12 years ago

      Except a wounded mosquito.

      1. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

        +1

  74. sarcasmic   12 years ago

    Could have been a case of crazy, could have been a case of carelessness, but it all started with her hitting a barricade. One or more cops responded with gunfire, and naturally she panicked and sped off. At that point she had sealed her fate. There was no way it could end without her being killed.

  75. Bam!   12 years ago

    And now Fox News is blaming the lack of information on the government shutdown.

    1. RBS   12 years ago

      This is truly the most derprolific "shutdown" in history.

  76. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Goddammit. I came up here to see if it is going to stop snowing any time in the near future, and now I've been sucked into listening to all thios breathless jibberjabber about The Day Washington was Invaded By The Teathuglikkkin TerrorSwarm.

    1. Ted S.   12 years ago

      Goddammit. I came up here

      Considering your steadfast refusal to use threaded commenting, I don't believe "up" is the right word here. :-p

  77. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

    They're saying she's young - a teen. I'd say routine traffic stop = panic = death sentence.

    1. John   12 years ago

      That is what I figured as soon as I heard this. What a tragedy.

    2. Bam!   12 years ago

      They keep saying the gun shots were in rapid succession. Given that only she died, you are sadly probably right.

      1. CatoTheElder   12 years ago

        from WaPo:

        The police cars rammed it on either side, but the car got away and drove north toward Constitution Avenue, Mr. Chavez said. Shortly afterward, he said he heard a burst of about 10-12 gunshots.

        When will Americans finally rise up and approve an assault weapons ban to keep these deadly weapons out of the hands of law enforcement officers.

    3. NoVAHockey   12 years ago

      local news?

    4. Episiarch   12 years ago

      If this turns out to be the case, the cops are going to have a hard time spinning this. Killing teenagers for being young and inexperienced isn't exactly easy to explain away. I know, I know, they get away with egregious shit all the time, but this has already gone national, unlike many of the other egregious stories we hear through H&R.

      1. John Thacker   12 years ago

        I'm sure they'll explain that in the dangerous climate created by extremist Republicans, they had to make a decision, and officer safety came first.

      2. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

        OFFICER SAFETY!!!

        She hit a member of the Holy First Responder Heroes! With a deadly vehicle!!!!

      3. Ted S.   12 years ago

        "Officer safety".

        "The president could have been at risk".

        Some people will buy this shit.

        1. Mainer2   12 years ago

          Most people will buy this shit.

      4. Paul.   12 years ago

        If this turns out to be the case, the cops are going to have a hard time spinning this.

        Episiarch. Have the cops had a hard time spinning anything?

        Procedures were followed. Press conference closed.

      5. Paul.   12 years ago

        but this has already gone national, unlike many of the other egregious stories we hear through H&R.

        the only reason it went national is because there's a government shutdown. The press was desperately hoping for:

        1. Angry white anti-government male who would be protesting... wait...

        2. A poor, desperate disenfranchised public sector worker driven to an understandably violent act.

        1. Zeb   12 years ago

          I bet this woudl go national any time. Any shots being fired near the Capitol or Whitehouse is going to go national before anyone has a clue what is happening.

          1. Paul.   12 years ago

            Yes, I suppose this is true... especially if we consider the rest of the crime-ridden, shot-riddled hellhole that is DC as 'not near the Capitol'.

          2. Paul.   12 years ago

            Of course, when you consider the truthiness of the situation: "Cops shoot teenage girl within reasonable walking distance from Capitol", it gets a little strange.

            1. Zeb   12 years ago

              Oh, it's definitely very strange. And by "near the capital" I mean just what you said.

              1. Paul.   12 years ago

                I figured, and really, I should know better. You're 100% correct that a shot fired by anyone near the Capitol is going to make national news.

                I seem to remember a noisy man kind of talking to himself outside the white house during the Clinton presidency made national news.

                I believe the man was white and angry about something. So...

        2. CatoTheElder   12 years ago

          It would be very interesting to watch the surveillance videos of the "ramming" and the chase, of which I am sure there are dozens being erased and destroyed right now.

      6. Sudden   12 years ago

        Remember Epi, if it weren't for Obama and the free shit express, this poor teen mom and her child would be dying in the streets of starvation while being kicked and cattle prodded by TEH EVUL LIBERTHUGLIKANZ

      7. SugarFree   12 years ago

        They can't be punished because they were working for free.

        1. Sudden   12 years ago

          That is exactly why they're doing it. Their union contract likely stipulates that all administrative leave is paid, ergo the only way to collect a paycheck is to kill innocent teenage moms who can't operate a motor vehicle so well and get put onto paid vacation administrative leave.

  78. Mr. Soul   12 years ago

    nothing is more predictable and less believable that the phrase "isolated incident" after every event like this. Jeezoloo it down-right reflexive.

  79. Dweebston   12 years ago

    Ad from the Chicago Tribune story:

    Chinese Gender Chart
    Parents.com
    Is It A Boy Or Girl? Predict Your Baby's Gender With 93% Accuracy!

    Too soon, Tribune. Too soon.

  80. Loki   12 years ago

    The suspect was killed by cops near the Capitol following a high speed chase from the White House, along Pennsylvania Ave., the same route the president typically walks following an inauguration.

    It was obviously a rabid Sarah Palin supporter upset that her TEABAGGER idol was never elected president.

    1. RBS   12 years ago

      the same route the president typically walks following an inauguration.

      "A man was murdered in cold blood this morning. In the same neighborhood the president used to live in."

    2. Mainer2   12 years ago

      the same route the president typically walks following an inauguration.

      which is as relevant as the color of her car.

  81. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    They're saying she's young - a teen. I'd say routine traffic stop = panic = death sentence.

    "Where the fuck am I? Oh, shit, why are those guys running at me? GUNS? Mom will never let me use her car again. I gotta get the fuck outta here!"

  82. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Now that fucking shitbag Limey cocksucker is on, regurgitating the Party Line.

    1. Mike M.   12 years ago

      The one on CNN? Something about that dude makes me want to punch him right in the nose.

  83. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

    not to get all tuff gai, but really? I mean a lockdown for this - a single car with one person and a child in it?

    1. Episiarch   12 years ago

      Dude, the cops have learned that if they institute a lockdown, they get to run around and possibly shoot someone and it's all exciting and shit and they can order the peons to get back in their houses and they can feel all important and hero-y and stuff.

      Expect lockdown now for anything bigger than a convenience store robbery.

      1. Zeb   12 years ago

        And if any shots are fired during the convenience store robbery? You'd better believe that's a paddling. I mean lockdown.

      2. Sudden   12 years ago

        The great part is this appears to be something substantially less serious than a convenience store robbery:

        Inexperienced female drive dings a barricade.

        Of course, logic tells you that drawing your guns and unloading them into a car with a teen mom and her bastard progeny are the only possible course of action.

      3. Mainer2   12 years ago

        Lockdown = Boston Strong !

    2. Bardas Phocas   12 years ago

      These are the days of Blood and Iron.
      DOD contractors killing randomly.
      Long boring speeches in the Senate.
      Terroristic old men trying to break the barry-cades the the monuments.

      We're on the edge people.

    3. Sevo   12 years ago

      Lord Humungus|10.3.13 @ 4:01PM|#
      "not to get all tuff gai, but really? I mean a lockdown for this - a single car with one person and a child in it?"

      Hey, elected OFFICIALS were in danger! We're not talking about mere people!

  84. Marc F Cheney   12 years ago

    The shooting comes two weeks after a mentally disturbed employee terrorized the Navy Yard with a shotgun, leaving 13 people dead including the gunman.

    Before the disruption, lawmakers had been trying to find common ground to end a government shutdown. The House had just finished approving legislation aimed at partly lifting the government shutdown by paying National Guard and Reserve members.

    Way to throw in a bunch of completely unrelated facts, AP.

    1. Sudden   12 years ago

      Hey, they keep creating monsters and then piling on news reports of them, pretty soon they'll be able to justify the descent into martial law and the lifetime emperorship.

    2. Dweebston   12 years ago

      It's more padding than the apparel I wear around the house on Friday nights.

      1. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

        damn, libertarians are kinkyyyyyy.

        1. Mainer2   12 years ago

          True, but it's too bad there are no female libertarians.

  85. NoVAHockey   12 years ago

    i'm going to alter my walking commute to get as close to white house as i can today. if they're saying she hit the gate at treasury, and then ended on the hill, I can't figure how she wasn't stopped well before the Hill. it doesn't really make sense.

    1. NoVAHockey   12 years ago

      and if it was 15th and Penn gate, i totally get how you would accidentally turn into it if you're not a local and/or lost.

    2. RBS   12 years ago

      "Holy shit, it's that NoVAHockey guy the NSA warned us about..."

  86. Sudden   12 years ago

    My take:

    Sounding like a single mother here, so I'm gonna guess that the single mother wanted to go into the white house and personally thank Dear Leader President Obama for her free money, apartment, phone, health care, and pony. Being a woman, she can't drive well, so the front of her car taps the barricade, at which point officers begin unloading clips into her car. She flees the scene in an effrt to save the fucking child riding in her car with her, police proceed to hunt her down hitting bystanders (not innocent, as no one in DC is innocent) with rounds as they fire.

    This sounds like the ultimate truth to me.

    1. Zeb   12 years ago

      I won't be very surprised if that is exactly what happened.

    2. MJGreen   12 years ago

      So the cops just shot Julia? Does the graphic need to be updated?

      1. CatoTheElder   12 years ago

        ^THIS

    3. Mainer2   12 years ago

      unloading clips

      don't you mean magazines ?

      (that ought to put this thread over the 1000 comment threshold)

      1. Sudden   12 years ago

        Meh, you're trying to take my libertarian street cred by admonishing me for semantic disputes regarding firearms.

        I let you know fine sir that I fully support firearms ownership for the common people but simply don't handle one myself as I've outsourced my personal protection to an army of Pinkertons like any good monocle twirling industrialist. Good day, sir.

        1. Mainer2   12 years ago

          Feeling othered ?

  87. Bam!   12 years ago

    Video of the black car on Fox News. Cops had guns drawn on the car and didn't fire. She then got away and the cops pursued.

  88. Dweebston   12 years ago

    Alleged eyewitness account via USA Today:

    "I'm done trying to show the kids important things," Jennifer Arnold said. "We're going to Disney World."

    From one expensive Mickey Mouse outfit to another.

    1. Neoliberal Kochtopus   12 years ago

      Ah ha, so the Mouse was behind all this.

  89. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

    Now they're saying the cop was purportedly injured by an automatic car barrier that was raised during the car chase.

    When they say she tried to ram a barrier at the White House, it's probably that the chase was already underway and she tried to drive onto a sidewalk and the barriers were raised as she was driving over them. The cop also probably was close behind and got caught by the barrier also.

    BTW, the fucking local news is still on the air with this when it's becoming clear that it's some poor idiot teenage girl who panicked when she got blue-lighted. And they're desperately trying to find some kind of terrorist or crazy person connection.

    1. Bam!   12 years ago

      They keep saying, "tried to ram a White House barrier," framing the act as a deliberate attack, assigning motive without actually knowing her motive.

  90. SweatingGin   12 years ago

    Top rated comment on HuffPo! (two hours old, but nicely indicative of the hive mind there)

    "Hats off to our first responders who are working without pay to protect those who have taken away their paychecks while keeping their own."

    1. SweatingGin   12 years ago

      Second rated!(also two hours old)

      "Yea, more shots fired in D.C. Maybe we can get around sometime to having that "national discussion" about crazies and guns. No? Not yet? Okay. Thank you for not doing anything."

      I agree! Crazy cops with guns are a hazard!

      1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        Yep - I would welcome a national discussion on crazy cops with guns!

        1. Brian   12 years ago

          It's like Newtown, all over again!

      2. MJGreen   12 years ago

        You're welcome!

      3. Dweebston   12 years ago

        Posting the following to FB:

        When will we finally take these instruments of death and terror off the streets?

        If anyone responds, I'll explain I meant patrol officers.

    2. Zeb   12 years ago

      Bullshit. The police are still getting paid.

      1. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

        You don't need facts when you have narratives.

      2. Brian   12 years ago

        Exactly. Cops working without pay goes against union rules.

    3. Tony   12 years ago

      A hive mind hundreds of times bigger than the one here.

      1. Loki   12 years ago

        You never told us you were in a youtube video.

  91. Rufus J. Firefly   12 years ago

    Chief of Police: "Okay, guys. Let's get our story straight. Rupert!"

    Rupert:"Yes?"

    "You lost an eye in the cat incident right?"

    "Yes."

    "Great. You're a fucking hero for shooting that puppy down. Who knows whatcouldahappened to that guppy."

    "You know it, Chief."

    "So, you'll be our point man here. The woman was deranged, talking incoherently. Since we didn't know she had a baby in the back when she reached over to protect it we thought she was pulling out an assault rifle to kill you and possibly the President, m'kay?"

    "I was having ice-cream at the time but sure..."

    "Your life - and most likely the President's and all the people he loved - was in danger. Make sure you understand this."

    (looks over to muffin house across the street)"You bet. Life in danger."

    "Ready! Break!"

  92. MJGreen   12 years ago

    One officer was reportedly injured during the incident. According to CNN, the officer was driving a car that was hit by the black vehicle.

    Sheesh. I figured this would get worse the more we learned, but this is getting into bad-libertarian-fiction territory.

  93. Tony   12 years ago

    Alex Jones thinks it's a "false flag"! Waiting on report of race of suspect to confirm.

    1. Stormy Dragon   12 years ago

      Alex Jones thinks the fact his corn flakes get soggy is a false flag.

      1. Rufus J. Firefly   12 years ago

        I find mini-wheats get soggy too fast. It has to be some sort of conspiracy. I like the frosting to be thick and hard.

        Ok, that didn't sound right.

        1. Loki   12 years ago

          You know who else liked their frosting thick and hard?

          1. Rufus J. Firefly   12 years ago

            Clinton?

          2. MJGreen   12 years ago

            Tony?

            1. Tony   12 years ago

              I once had some "frosting" that literally burned my hand and left a completely irremovable stain on the wall. That guy could have been a porn X-man.

              1. Rufus J. Firefly   12 years ago

                Er, you may have to release such information with the government now. They may want to have a word with you.

        2. Rasilio   12 years ago

          I actually like them better when they are soggy

      2. Dweebston   12 years ago

        Soggy ceral is better than the glass-etching utensils that go into the bowl. Not so much corn flakes, but the myriad sugar-sculpted crap I ate as a kid was basically glass shards and broken razors until the milk mellowed it.

        1. Rufus J. Firefly   12 years ago

          Whatever happened to Boo-Berry?

        2. Tony   12 years ago

          It's a great mystery how Cap'n Crunch passes muster with the FDA despite turning your mouth into a bloody pulp every single time.

          1. Rufus J. Firefly   12 years ago

            I don't give a shit about the FDA or Health Canada.

            Captain Crunch is a-okay with me after a long night of "hard, thick frost shooting."

          2. John Thacker   12 years ago

            Because they don't claim it does anything for you.

            Cheerios actually got in trouble with the FDA for talking about health studies.

            1. Rufus J. Firefly   12 years ago

              Cholesterol was it?

              I had high cholesterol, you know what fixed that?

              Fucking Crestor. That's right. A damn pill for four months. Not effen Cheerios.

              1. Robert   12 years ago

                So you fucked someone named Crestor, who was a damn pill, for 4 mos., and that fixed your cholesterol? Would it not have worked as well if it'd been a nice person?

          3. Robert   12 years ago

            With a mouthful, I told my father my mouth was scratched up from eating cereal. He heard it as, "My mouth is scratched up from eating sewage."

      3. LilDebbie   12 years ago

        Actually, Alex Jones thinks a frazzled woman made a wrong turn, freaked out when she got swarmed by cowardly thugs, and was executed in front of her child while the whole world applauded her murderers for their heroism.

        Of course, to know that you would actually have to apply those critical thinking skills you never stop harping on about and expose yourself to contrary views, but we all know how comfortable it is in your hugbox.

    2. Sevo   12 years ago

      Alex Jones 'thinks' 911 was caused by Elvis' alien love child.
      Who cares what that idjit 'thinks'.

      1. Rufus J. Firefly   12 years ago

        Although him going absolutely batshit pre-Medieval on Piers Morgan was priceless.

        1. Sevo   12 years ago

          I wonder if Morgan couldn't cause that response in a rock.

        2. Brian   12 years ago

          That's probably the best ratings Piers Morgan is going to get.

  94. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Judging from the video of the noble Capitol Police officer on the stretcher, my first assumption was that he had had a heart attack after running ten feet in a panic.

    1. Rufus J. Firefly   12 years ago

      I don't know why, but I laughed out loud on that one.

      Gently releasing a doughnut of course.

  95. Zeb   12 years ago

    You know, if they are such a bunch of pussies that everytime anything happens they go right to lockdown freakout mode, maybe congress critters should just telecommute. Why the fuck do they all need to be in Washington spending huge amounts of money on facilities and security when they could do it all from home?

    1. Rufus J. Firefly   12 years ago

      Conference call!

      It's not like Obama talks to anybody anyway, right!

      "Conference call? Fuck dat! Fore!"

  96. Mainer2   12 years ago

    No one has asked the really important question. Did she have an AR-15 ?

  97. Warrren   12 years ago

    Outside of the woman no one can possibly have any fucking clue as to what she was doing.

    Goddamn I hate the media.

  98. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

    Video looks to be some panicked driver trying to escape, just as we've seen 1000s of times on Cops.

  99. CatoTheElder   12 years ago

    Probably just another casualty in the WOD, unusual only because of its proximity to the corridors of power.

    The perp probably took a wrong turn, got surrounded by cops, and, realizing that she was holding, decided to make a run for it.

    Nothing at all unusual about the trigger-happiness of cops, though.

    1. Brian   12 years ago

      "We had to shoot the addict, in order to save her."

  100. Matt N   12 years ago

    So I happen to be watching some PBS 'news' program on TV today and caught their piece on this 'shooting'.

    From the piece it was clear that only the cops did any shooting.

    And the anchor made it a point to say (paraphrasing), "Oh, and by the way, all of these cops are working without pay due to the government shutdown."

    My first thought was: They will probably get all of their back pay when the shutdown ends.

    My second thought was: Evil f---ers should have gone ahead and stayed home instead of 'volunteering' to work 'without pay' - that way probably no one would have gotten shot.

    What are the chances Obama will include this incident in his examples of "gun violence" ....

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  102. pennikracov   12 years ago

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  104. Rufus J. Firefly   12 years ago

    Nope.

  105. Almanian!   12 years ago

    I can see you're a busy man...

  106. Almanian!   12 years ago

    ^^this x2

  107. sarcasmic   12 years ago

    We already established that "officer safety" trumps "for the children."

  108. John Thacker   12 years ago

    And now it looks like the Capitol Police Chief is confirming that no officer was shot. Ugh, this looks terrible.

  109. Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!   12 years ago

    A GRAIL?!

  110. Almanian!   12 years ago

    Yes! Yes! You must spank us all! And then - the oral sex!

  111. Episiarch   12 years ago

    And if in the next few days she turns out to be a normal mother with no history of mental illness or radicalism, it's going to be really ugly.

  112. Ted S.   12 years ago

    Ugh, this looks terrible.

    Not if you think officer safety is paramount.

    And besides, she committed contempt of cop, which we all know is a capital offense.

  113. Mainer2   12 years ago

    I suppose I could stay a bit longer.

  114. Loki   12 years ago

    if in the next few days she turns out to be a normal mother with no history of mental illness or radicalism

    ...then that will simply "prove" that she was driven to it by the TEATHUGLICAN SHUTDOWNMEGGEDON!!!!11!!!

  115. Swamp Think   12 years ago

    liquidated

  116. Swamp Think   12 years ago

    No! It's too perilous.

  117. Mainer2   12 years ago

    I can handle the peril.
    Just a little peril, I promise.

  118. CE   12 years ago

    You didn't even need to point that out, really.

  119. Ann N   12 years ago

    black woman with a baby.

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