Remember, Kids: The Police Are Your Friends (And Might Be Trying to Entrap You into a Drug Buy)
A Temecula, California, couple whose special needs son (along with 21 other students) was arrested in a massive drug sting at Chaperral High School have now, ABC News reports:
filed a claim against the Temecula Valley Unified School District for unspecified damages, alleging the district administrators did not protect their special-needs son but instead "participated with local authorities in an undercover drug sting that intentionally targeted and discriminated against their son."
"It is shattering to our son. I don't know how he will ever be able to trust friends again," Doug Snodgrass, the father of the student, told ABCNews.com….
The young man was fresh to his new high school when:
"Our son was a new kid in August, and this undercover cop befriended him," Snodgrass said. On the second day of school, Snodgrass said, Daniel asked the boy to buy drugs. "He asked my son if he could find marijuana for $20," Snodgrass said. "Three weeks later my son was able to bring back a half joint he received from a homeless guy."….
It took the 17-year-old three weeks to procure a half joint of marijuana, according to court documents filed later in Riverside County juvenile court. After he was pressed again by the police officer, the student retrieved another joint for $20, from another homeless man, the documents said.
"During that time, he received more than 60 text messages from this undercover officer," Snodgrass said. "Our son has a real problem reading social cues and social inferences because of his various disabilities. It would've been hard for him to figure to out that he was talking to an undercover officer."
Snodgrass said his son had been diagnosed with autism, bipolar disorder, Tourette's syndrome and various anxiety disorders.
The bust was handled classily, to be sure:
"Our son went to school the morning of Dec. 11 and he didn't show up at home after school, because he was arrested in his classroom," Snodgrass said. "Police went into his classroom armed, and handcuffed our son. We were not notified by anyone, and he was held for two days, and we were not able to see him," although he said they got his medication to him the first night he was in detention through a nurse….
In January, the juvenile court judge determined there were extenuating circumstances and ruled that Snodgrass' son could do informal probation and 20 hours of community service, which would ultimately lead to a "no finding of guilt." The court allowed the student to return to school in March, however, Snodgrass said the school has continued to "bully" his son.
According to the claim filed on April 26 against the school district, Snodgrass' son was suspended for more than 10 days, forced to be educated at home and subjected to the threat of expulsion.
"Our son was cleared of the criminal charge, but the school continued to try and expel him," Snodgrass said…..
"We have now filed a claim against the school district. Part of the complaint we filed on April 26 states that they [the school district] are trying to harass and intimidate our son. I will say the teachers and students have been very supportive, it is strictly the administration."
Temecula Valley Unified School District released a statement to ABC News via its attorney, which begins: "The district continues to act lawfully and in furtherance of its mission to educate students and better prepare them for successful adulthood…."
The Snodgrass's have learned a valuable lesson indeed, Temecula Valley.
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An undercover cop in High School? I guess you'd have to entrap special needs kids in order to pull that off. WTF is this 21 Jump Street crap
That was my first thought: "Holy shit, 21 Jump Street is real!?"
It's pretty pathetic that they're now stealing tactics from lame 80s cop shows.
This shit has been going on for a long time. There are many stories from all over the country.
And guess what, they never make a big bust because high school kids don't sell massive amounts of drugs. Well, some do, but they're too smart to sell to narcs.
The pattern in this case holds true for most other ones as well. A cop befriends some kids, they can't find him weed, he pressures them for months, the kids relent and find him a dime bag, profit! I remember reading about one case where they used attractive females to find lonely kids to get them dope. Not dealers mind you, but just some kid that thinks a girl likes him and hunts down a gram or two of weed.
It's fucking disgusting. They know the kids they are busting aren't into drugs, but do it anyways. I wished I believed in justice or hell for these fucking psychopaths, but they'll just get promotions and medals.
Here's a glowing story about one such operation. Oh my, they got 12 pills! Fucking cunt deserves any terrible thing this nasty world can throw at her.
Another sucess in the war on drugs
If it were my kid, there would be a beatdown in order for the cop in question. This type of shit just pisses me off.
Just be sure to bring a gun to that fist fight, because he sure as heck will.
Be sure to bring nine or ten guys with clubs and guns to that fist fight, because he sure will.
It wouldn't be a fair fight. It would be a surprise, just like the one he had for the kid.
I'd entice him into an alley with a donut first.
You could lure him into the alley with the siren song screams of Kelly Thomas being beaten to death.
Just setup a realistic looking bullet proof dog statue and let him burn through all his ammo first.
If you construct it properly, it can throw the ricochets back at him, and you could get him to wound himself for you.
perfect
"You know there was time when we'd take guys like [that] out back and beat [them] with a rubber hose, but now [they've] got their damned unions."
...I will say the teachers and students have been very supportive, it is strictly the administration.
I don't doubt that. I have a shitload of teacher friends, and from what I can tell, between asshole parents and asshole administrators, I wouldn't want the job for anything. But school administration seems to be a growth industry. So much money is dumped into those worthless, rulebook humping automatons.
They loves them some no-tolerance policies.
Yeah but what matters you guys is that this improves the officer's arrest rate and the departments drug bust rate. The federal drug teat will keep on squirting.
What a depressing fucking story. There was a similar story on This American Life a while ago, but it was a normal, but naive kid who thought the undercover cop was a girl who he might have a chance with.
How the fuck can people do shit like that and not know that they are being totally evil? Even if you think that drugs are a big huge problem that has to be stopped, tricking some kid who clearly is not involved in any kind of trafficking into getting you a little weed and then charging them with dealing is just fucked.
I agree. If you were half a cop, you would target the kid who was actually dealing pot, not some autistic nerdburger.
For the effort required to nail a bona fide successful drug dealer, one can nail 10 socially inept kids.
Guess who gets medals? The guy who has ten arrests or one arrest under his belt?
Police are dangerous not only because there are an unusually high number of evil or sociopathic people in their ranks, but also because their organization is set up to reward sociopathic behavior.
Police are dangerous not only because there are an unusually high number of evil or sociopathic people in their ranks...
So are legislators and judges who make the laws the cops enforce.
Remove law enforcement, and Ted Kennedy would just be an out of shape fat guy. It was the police guns which made him dangerous.
Not in my thinking. Yes, the police (and now military domestically) are the arm of violence the state uses to keep the people under its thumb. However, if the state did not have a law prohibiting weed, then the state could not enforce it. And if judges enforced the constitution against the state at least some of the time, then police would be held in check.
But currently, judges and legislators worship the police, and police worship the military, although none of them have the courage to actually do what they idolize. You really have to be a sociopath or even psychopath to be successful politician. Which is more dangerous, the high school douche turned cop, or the secret serial killer/ child molester turned state representative?
Sure, Ted Kennedy's words, put into law, caused untold misery and poverty, far more than any individual cop could accomplish in a hundred years.
At the risk of sounding like a syndicalist, I nonetheless argue that people wouldn't have acted on his bad ideas without the threat posed by the police.
Ted Kennedy's words, put into law, caused untold misery and poverty, far more than any individual cop could accomplish in a hundred years.
That doesn't mean they shouldn't try!
I'm glad these working class heroes took some scum off our streets and out of our schools. You'd be glad too if your kid went to a school with autistic drug dealers (the worst kind).
more perfection
Perhaps the police have taken on the role of Lucifer in our modern society.
They tempt and then they mete out punishment when the individual falls for the trick. Satan never made anyone sin, did he? He only offered the choice.
Satan's Mob - My new name for the police.
And Barry is God right? He loves us all, so much so that he sends his only Press Secretary to die on the podium once a week.
Except he's had two press secretaries.
Reason #895,572,337 not to send your kid to public school.
Reason #895,572,338 to never ever trust a cop.
Assuming you know the person you're dealing with is a cop.
Reason #98459382 not to trust anyone
If he's not guilty after the "extenuating circumstance" of entrapment, why in the hell is does he have to perform 20 hours of community service?
Penance. Everyone needs some to do some groveling before the powers that be just so they remember who's really in charge.
Because he didn't rat out his friend to Saddam Hussein the way a loyal man would have when a friend at the behest of the security services invited him to join a non-existent anti-Saddam rebel group.
I was pulled over in Colorado a few years ago, and the cop seized my Texas drivers license and then gave me a ticket for driving without a license. I reported my license stolen to the state of Texas, and they sent me a replacement license, and I got a copy of my driving record showing my license had never been suspended or revoked. When I showed up for my court date with all that, the judge had no choice but to find me not guilty, and then sentenced me to 20 hours of community service and 90-some odd dollars for court costs, plus a 50 dollar administrative fee to schedule my community service. I talked to a lawyer, and he said we could try to fight the community service and the costs, but it would cost more than I would ever get back and there was no guarantee that we would win because it was traffic court. The lesson: Fuck the police. And never, ever go to Aurora, Colorado with out of state plates.
...the judge had no choice but to find me not guilty, and then sentenced me to 20 hours of community service and 90-some odd dollars for court costs, plus a 50 dollar administrative fee to schedule my community service.
How the fuck can someone not guilty be sentenced to anything? Other than FYTW, what is the legal rationale for this shit?
Wait, what? How the fuck does that work? Does "not guilty" means something different in Colorado than everywhere else?
A traffic judge found my guilty of running a stop sign somewhere at sometime.
Which, I guess, was technically true.
He died a few months later, so that was worth the $70.
It's easier (and safer) to entrap kids than do real work.
Entrapment should be a hangable offense.
Yes. I really think capital punishment should be reserved specially for agents of the state who use their power to harm other people.
Of course, the fact that a grown man would want a job pretending to be a teenager and attending high school strikes me as a little... pervy.
Kind of makes you wonder how many statutory rapes the guy committed during the course of his "duties."
Well, it wasn't "rape rape", because cops are an awesome force for good and everyone loves them.
hth
/dunphy
way back in the mist of time (the 1980s) - we had an undercover cop in our high school. He tried to break into the drug scene but was pretty much left out of the loop since he was a "new kid".
btw, he drove a (2.5L Iron Duke) 4-cylinder Camaro. Pretty much a tip-off right there.
Am I the only one who thinks it is odd that the parents let their mentally challenged kid hang out with homeless men unsupervised?
Unless they want to hold his hand 24/7, I don't see what they would have done about it.
Why do people continue to send their kids to government schools?
Because if they don't, and don't have the extra money or time to find alternatives, then someone will come take their kids away?
Working class heroes these boys in blue, working class heroes.
"The district continues to act lawfully and in furtherance of its mission to educate students and better prepare them for successful adulthood...."
And people continue to deny the social benefits of vigilantism.
"The district continues to act lawfully and in furtherance of its mission to educate abuse students and better prepare them for successful adulthood getting fucked over by sociopathic assholes (aka cops)...."
FTFT
he drove a (2.5L Iron Duke) 4-cylinder Camaro. Pretty much a tip-off right there.
Should've just gone with the Chevette.
There was an actual kid at my high school who drove a Chevette, 1987 with the 4 speed manual. I think he's a serial killer now.
Isn't it supposed to be illegal to arrest and hold a minor without notifying the parents and allowing them to have contact? It sure would be nice if the officers involved were at least fired, but I won't be holding my breath.
"Procedures were followed... special needs child was harrassed... passive voice was used... good police work was done."
you forgot to add 'FYTW'
I think that's pretty much implied at all times, isn't?
I think it is mostly required... like reading Miranda warnings
17 is old enough to be automatically charges as an adult in a lot of states.
But who the fuck holds someone for 2 days for a very minor pot offense? In California?
I really don't understand how these fucks could do something like that.
It should have been plainly obvious that this kid, and probably others, had nothing to do with drugs in the first place. But they keep pushing until the kid relents. How does one do that and look themselves in the mirror?
If this were a just world that cop would be in the town's square tarred, feathered and pilloried. He'll probably get a fucking promotion, though.
How does one do that and look themselves in the mirror?
A complete lack of shame, guilt, or empathy probably helps. IOW, being a complete sociopath.
Drawn and quartered seems about right to me. It's just pure malice as far as I'm concerned.
It should have been plainly obvious that this kid, and probably others, had nothing to do with drugs in the first place. But they keep pushing until the kid relents. How does one do that and look themselves in the mirror?
"This is your brain. This is your brain with a badge."
*sizzle, pop, swagger, strut*
"This is your brain. This is your brain with a badge."
*sizzle, pop, swagger, strut*
Exhibit A: dunphy
"The district continues to act lawfully and in furtherance of its mission to educate students and better prepare them for successful adulthood...."
Somehow I think they have different definitions for the terms lawfully, educate, successful and adulthood than I do.
As of posting this was just about to fall off the front page on the H+R blog and dumpster never responded.
How completely unsurprising.