Shikha Dalmia on Huff Post Live at 9.15 EST Discussing the Bangladesh Factory Collapse

Will imposing a global regime of workplace safety make a whit of difference to improving the safety of Third World factory workers? Click here to watch Reason Foundation Senior Analyst Shikha Dalmia discuss this at Huffington Post Live.

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[SIV]

Those Bangladeshi garment workers would still be alive if they were all drawing welfare in the USA!

[Calidissident]

Of course the only reason anyone might support open immigration is because they're a damn cosmotarian who wants everyone to come here and get on welfare.

[SIV]

Shikha Dalmia supports welfare for immigrants and has written about it here and elsewhere.

[Calidissident]

I haven't read every Dalmia article ever, so I can't say whether that's true or false, but I do know that you made this claim in an article where she was clearly arguing that immigrants aren't a huge burden on social programs or a drain on the economy. That's hardly the same thing as saying that immigrants should come here and be given welfare

[Jerry on the boat]

In what kind of crazy world do business owners actually want to see their capital being destroyed?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Where replacing it is cheaper than securing it? Either that, or a world where business owners are just as prone to playing odds as everyone else.

[AlmightyJB]

Reminds me of after Exxon Valdez, my then 4th or 5th grade daughter comes home with the poster she made in school after given the proper dosage of propaganda. Picture of the Valdez spilling oil in the animal filled ocean with the caption Stop polluting our Oceans! She was under the impression that they dumped the oil in there just to be evil.

[BuSab Agent]

It's the Captain Planet theory of capitalism...manufacturers produce nothing but pollution because apparently there's a market for that?

[heller]

1. Pollute
2. ???
3. Profit

[Archduke Pantsfan]

because you want cheap tshirts wharrgharbl derpa herp

[AlmightyJB]

OT: The "right" to be forgotten?

[Generic Stranger]

Just change your damn name.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

what did I miss?

[Generic Stranger]

I was talking about the chick in the article. If she has a problem with potential employers plugging her name into a search engine and uncovering expunged arrests, maybe she should just change her damn name, instead of suing every paper that carried the arrest record.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

I thought you were mad at JB

[Generic Stranger]

Nah, just at the sue happy moron in the article.

[Generic Stranger]

Also, suing them was stupid because now the Streisand effect is taking hold. Even if she wins, potential employers are going to be able to find her name in stories about this lawsuit, so even if she succeeds she's going to fail.

[AlmightyJB]

Yep, like a cat chasing it's tail.

[SweatingGin]

I figured it would be about people making stupid comments or posting naked pictures of themselves on the Internet.

[AlmightyJB]

OT: What When One Man Pinged the Whole Internet.

[AlmightyJB]

Happened

[AlmightyJB]

I don't understand why we can't all agree that all hot women should be allowed free pass into the country but no dudes.

[#HOLO YOLO]

This.

[SIV]

They can run fashion trucks

[AlmightyJB]

Butter face, and her hands and feet. I could live with the hair on a prettier girl.

[Agammamon]

Any dude that wants in must be accompanied by a woman - sort of like a huge orgy.

[Agammamon]

"Will imposing a global regime of workplace safety make a whit of difference to improving the safety of Third World factory workers?"

How about no? If you had the rules it wouldn't matter since the people the rules apply to would just buy there way out of compliance.

Hey, kinda like that guy who iwned the factory building in Bangladesh!

[BuSab Agent]

^THIS^ If the local politicos are bribe-able and the ones in Bangladesh and most 3rd world countries certainly are, then layering more rules just makes more opportunities for bribes.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Mother in UK forced 14-year-old to get pregnant

The judge said the woman, an American divorcee living in Britain with three adopted children, hatched the plan after she was prevented from adopting a fourth.
The scheme involved getting her oldest daughter to inseminate herself with syringes of sperm purchased over the internet from a Denmark-based company, Cryos International.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Progress!
White people need not apply

[Irish]

A new version of the ad removes the race reference, but maintains the sex and age restrictions and that applicants "must be able to carry a tune," "ability to dance or move well is a bonus," and should be "not afraid to show a silly side," among others.

To be totally frank, based on the bolded part I can see why they wouldn't want a white guy.

[AlmightyJB]

"Mamma Yamma"? Were they looking for Uncle Remus?

[Archduke Pantsfan]

I wonder if any European NBA players will now be brave enough to come out as straight?

[jesse.in.mb]

Europe has an NBA?

[Calidissident]

I'm pretty sure he's talking about NBA players from Europe

[jesse.in.mb]

Ah that makes sense. I thought there was something like this going on for basketball and I just wasn't paying attention.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

I thought that was the CFL

[jesse.in.mb]

After staring at that wondering what on earth compact fluorescent lamps had to do with anything, I wiki'd and now know that the CFL was just '65-69 while Euro NFL was '95-'07. We've now maxed out my team sports knowledge.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

The CFL is still around man

[Irish]

We've now maxed out my team sports knowledge.

More into Greco Roman wrestling, huh Jesse?

[jesse.in.mb]

The executive board of the International Olympic Committee had voted to eliminate wrestling from the Summer Games, starting in 2020

Yeah, my 2013 started off rough...

The CFL is still around man

Are you talking about the Canadian Football League? I was talking about the Continental Football League.

[RightofCenter]

OT from the OT:
I feel like a lot of folks here about the public (lack of) education system. My older boy has been home schooled for 3 years now and is doing well. My youngest has Down Syndrome, and we're planning to send him to public school in the fall. If we do that, our tax dollars at least get us some occupational, speech and developmental therapy as part of his attendance.

Today my wife showed me the BS forms they want us to fill out "for the children." They want to know if I've ever been a migrant farm worker or have moved in the last 3 years to follow a migrant job. I was like "WTF does this have to do with educating my 6 yo DSer?" Turns out they get more $ if I'm an illegal immigrant fruit picker so they're hoping I'll say yes. They already get extra cash for a special needs student.

All this to say I'm not thrilled about sending him to the money grubbers, but with his mental capacity he's not really going to be infused with their propaganda. Other option is to home school and pay even more $ for private therapy. Am I a sellout because I'm taking my "free stuff" from the school district that I've already paid for with my taxes?

[Irish]

No. Getting something you're paying for isn't the issue with 'free shit' particularly if you need to help your son. The bigger issue is businesses getting big ass subsidies and people legitimately getting things for free when they don't pay taxes.

Of course, I wish that we'd eliminate the public school system entirely and go to a straight private school/voucher system, in which case it would probably be far cheaper, since there could be special schools that specialize more effectively in kids with learning disabilities, but as things stand now, you've got to do what's right for your kid.

[AlmightyJB]

"Am I a sellout because I'm taking my "free stuff" from the school district that I've already paid for with my taxes?"

I agree with Irish. You didn't create the system that takes your money. You should get as much of of that money back as you possibly can. Vote to change the system. But you have to live within the system we have now. The media loves to throw out the canard about pols who vote against certain spending bills and how they are hypocrites if they then turn around and let their state take any of the redistributed wealth after the bill inevitably passes. It would only be hypocrisy if the people in those states were allowed to take a credit against their federal taxes for their portion of that spending and than wanted to still receive their portion of the redistribution. They are the ones taking their "free stuff" from you. You have every right to try and get it back to as great as extent possible. As far as my tax dollars goes, I would say that helping out special needs kids is pretty much on the bottom of my list when it comes to my concerns about government spending.

[prolefeed]

Will imposing a global regime of workplace safety make a whit of difference to improving the safety of Third World factory workers?

Since a "difference" can be either positive or negative in direction, then yes, a top down global monopoly on bureaucratic impositions that allegedly help workers will almost certainly make a difference in their safety levels.

By the phrasing of the above, I leave it to you to guess in which direction I think that would go.

[WomSom]

Roll that beautiful bean footage!

http://www.GottenAnon.tk

[Generic Stranger]

How is it that you haven't been banned again?

[Generic Stranger]

How unfortunate.

[Calidissident]

Yep, it's only the fault of the immigrants why this country is screwed. Had nothing to do with all the New Deal and Great Society programs, or the bloated military budget, or the regulatory state that has consistently expanded under both parties, or the Federal Reserve, etc.

BTW, why do you demonize socialism? You seem to have no problem with it as long as it is only for white Americans

[Irish]

BTW, why do you demonize socialism? You seem to have no problem with it as long as it is only for white Americans

He's quite literally an economic Marxist. He denies this every time I bring it up, but he argues in favor of socialism for the white working class, believes that the only indicator of economic success is exports, and thinks that Mexicans will form a 'reserve army of labor,' an economic concept no one but Marxists believe in.

He also admitted that he believes in Malthusian, Erlich-style overpopulation, meaning that the only people who agree with him on this issue are far left socialists.

But he isn't a racist progressive! Oh no! He's a good American conservative!

[Irish]

Oil exports might provide a small amount of a poor nation's "economy," as most of the economy is based on peasants producing rice for subsistence consumption.

This is the dumbest sentence I have ever read. If the majority of a nation consists of peasants growing rice and that nation has any oil to speak of, then the VAST majority of the economy in terms of GDP would be oil. This is because subsistence rice farming pays virtually nothing while oil pays large sums of money.

I never said the only indicator of economic success is exports.

No, but you made the ridiculous claim that Chile's economic boom is largely based on copper, and when I pointed out that copper only accounts for 6.7% of their economy you said 'B-b-but it accounts for 51% of their exports!' Which obviously shows that you overvalue exports, a common trait among zero-sum socialists.

I never called myself a malthusian, I only said that resources are not infinite and population is a problem.

You this morning:

Sure, the socialists only want to co-opt environmentalism to serve their anti-American goals. That doesn't mean the so-called "malthusian" world-view is wrong.

Of course, you never actually said 'I am a Malthusian.' But when you defend the Malthusian's argument, and say their argument may be correct, I can assume that you agree with the argument.

[DesigNate]

If population is such a problem, do us all a favor and off yourself.

[Calidissident]

Because white people don't have most of the political power in this country?

[Calidissident]

"But he isn't a racist progressive! Oh no! He's a good American conservative!"

You know what they say, today's conservatives are yesterday's progressives

[Generic Stranger]

He's quite literally an economic Marxist. He denies this every time I bring it up, but he argues in favor of socialism for the white working class, believes that the only indicator of economic success is exports, and thinks that Mexicans will form a 'reserve army of labor,' an economic concept no one but Marxists believe in.

You know who else was a National Socialist?

[Calidissident]

That doesn't mean whites don't have more power overall. And has Obama always been president? Was everything just peachy and totally not socialist until he came in office? And everything would just be great under Romney? Do the Republicans not control the House?

[Calidissident]

American really has a problem with people calling a spade a spade.

[Irish]

Tens of millions of Africans are dependent on American imports of grain because they outgrew their ecological limit and did not innovate their agriculture.

No, tens of millions of Africans are dependent on American imports of grain because their government has obliterated their agricultural sector. There has never been a famine in a democratic, capitalist nation. That tells me that Malthus was wrong. No one starves because of overpopulation, they starve because of government created famine.

Do you even think before you shoot your mouth off?

I also notice that you continue arguing that the Malthusian view is correct, a sentiment that completely contradicts your earlier argument that you're 'not Malthusian.' Way to show that you're a liar.

[Agammamon]

This is a good spoof - sounds almost like American.

[Irish]

Hitler?

Fuck. I think I did this wrong.

[Calidissident]

I would say their governments are more responsible for preventing the development of an agricultural sector, moreso than destroying an existing sector, but the effect is the same

[Irish]

They never had an agricultural sector capable of sustaining that many people for the government to obliterate.

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG.

You'll love this example American, since it involves the mistreatment of white people. This is what happened after the government of Zimbabwe forced white farmers off their land and gave that land to black farmers.

The new farmers did not have the experience or the expertise to tend the farms. As a result, this happened.

Mostly crops for export have suffered severely, e.g. Zimbabwe was the world's 6th largest producers of Tobacco in 2001.[29] It produces nowadays less than 1/3 of the amount produced in 2000,[30] the lowest amount in 50 years.[31] Zimbabwe was once so rich in agricultural produce that it was dubbed the "bread basket" of Southern Africa, while it is now struggling to feed its own population.[32] About 45 percent of the population is now considered malnourished.

Gee, that sure does sound like Zimbabwe had very good agricultural production that was demolished by governmental action.

Do you ever get tired of being provably wrong?

[Calidissident]

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CANADIAN ACTORS?

[BuSab Agent]

You did! Confine yourself to the comfy chair forthwith!

[BuSab Agent]

The squirrels thought our troll level was perilously low.

[C. Anacreon]

Along with Mr. Hilter and his National Bocialist party.

[heller]

I'm sure American will find some way to blame immigrants. See above.