The Republican Future: Maybe It Has to Be About Ideas, Not Just Technology
Alex Saitz-Wald at Salon writes an entertaining "let's you and him fight" story contrasting two Tea Party Senate leaders, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Ted Cruz of Texas.
Some excerpts and comments:
The National Review notes that "Cruz is rapidly becoming one of the most public faces of the [Tea Party] movement," a status he had earned even before even getting elected. Last summer, he was feted in a massive arena-filling, Glenn Beck-headlined, Freedomworks-sponsored rally for his election in Dallas. "There is a great awakening that is sweeping this state, that is sweeping this country," Cruz told the assembled masses. "New leaders who will stand and fight for liberty."….
The rapid ascent of the well-spoken Cruz has pleased many conservative activists hungry for more. "We salute you, Senator Cruz, and we're calling for backup," a much-shared RedState post read.
But it may not put any smiles on the face of Sen. Rand Paul, who is himself trying to become the de-facto leader of the very same movement and who helped get Cruz where he is today.
Endorsements from the Kentucky senator and his congressman father, Ron Paul, were critical in a primary race where the GOP establishment lined up against Cruz and behind Texas Lieutenant Government David Dewhurst, an arch-conservative whom the Tea Party nonetheless made out to be a moderate. But Cruz didn't return the favor by endorsing the elder Paul's presidential bid….
And while other Paul-endorsed candidates like Utah Sen. Mike Lee have kept a fairly low profile after getting to Washington, Cruz has been eager to upset the apple cart, threatening to upstage or even supplant the man who helped bring him there. He's been called the Ivy League Marco Rubio and the Republican Barack Obama, but perhaps a better epitaph would be the Purer Rand Paul.
Cruz is certainly trying to fill a specific space in Republican media/fan culture, the belligerent loudmouth against whatever the Enemy (the Obama administration) is for, for war and giving it to immigrants good and hard.
That's a great radio space and will doubtless earn Cruz many fans. But contra Salon, while that makes him a "pure" something or other, but not "purer" than Rand Paul about that quaint concept Cruz is quoted as standing for--"liberty" or even a part of liberty Tea Partyers are supposed to value, shrinking government size and expense. Given the expense of war and immigration enforcement--especially the cost in liberty of needing your government-issued papers to get job--Rand Paul is purer on any actual ideals that supposedly attach to the Tea Party label, if not the often unfortunate sociological team playing sometimes attached as well.
There's a big point about Paul too many people miss, weirdly given his father Ron Paul's career: he's not just a super-right-winger; his libertarianism is a distinct thing, that sometimes matches standard red-meat GOP feelings and sometimes does not.
Seitz-Wald is at least intelligent in analyzing the Republicans' national 2016 future in ideological terms, even if he isn't always clear on what the ideas are. The New York Times on Sunday spent many thousands of words by Robert Draper talking GOP troubles and front ending it all about technology, and the Republicans' inability to swing Reddit and online ads effectively to their side.
This is part of a general attitude about political messaging and ads that feeds worries about "money in politics," the implicit assumption that if you pay a lot of money and use the right tools you will get people to vote for you, regardless of your message.
Later Draper gets to narrating a focus group where people slam Republicans for their outmoded social views and concludes that "No one could understand the G.O.P.'s hot-blooded opposition to gay marriage or its perceived affinity for invading foreign countries." He then spends time with people who think of themselves as moving the GOP to a more viable future by not caring about gay marriage but are still obsessive hawks.
Draper quotes an unnamed GOP digital consultant:
And almost to a person that I've talked to, they say, 'Yeah, I would probably vote for Republicans, but I can't get past the gay-marriage ban, the abortion stance, all of these social causes.' Almost universally, they see a future where you have more options, not less. So questions about whether you can be married to the person you want to be married to just flies in the face of the future. They don't want to be part of an organization that puts them squarely on the wrong side of history."
Politics is not just about communicating--it's about communicating something people want to hear. Libertarians of the Rand Paul variety have a different challenge, though his father Ron embraced it more openly--educating more people to want the views they are selling.
Despite much recent chatter that acts as if digitial communication tools or some irreducible facts of ethnic or gender identity that have non-white-men leaning against the GOP are eternal and unchangable, that sort of ideological change can happen to ethnic minorities and the web savvy as much as to anyone else. But whether they get better at tweeting and redditing or not, the Republicans won't do well in 2016 unless they seem to be facing the issues and challenges of that era--which are likely to be problems caused by government overreach, foreign and domestic, and not solvable by getting people mad at Obama, gays, overseas Muslims, or immigrants.
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No one could understand the G.O.P.'s hot-blooded opposition to gay marriage or its perceived affinity for invading foreign countries.
But they can understand Obama's?
Jesus, Epi. That was what I was going to post. Verbatim.
PWN'D
It might finally be time for that checkup.
They know he doesn't mean it in his heart, unlike evil Republicans who would like to drop the gays on foreign countries while raping women and forcing them to carry to term.
Whenever I discuss politics with any leftists from now on and Obama comes up, and they say 'You don't like the President?', I'm going to say 'You mean Captain Dronebot?'.
I've done it a couple of times already, and the immediate state of confusion this puts them in is priceless. Then they go from a sort of cautious frown to a very cautious smile. Really, they can't figure out if it's a joke, an insult, or some strange form of compliment.
The right-wing radio/CIA propaganda machine has long been pro "liberty" (except when it limits government power to fight crime or enforce conservative social values, which doesn't leave much else), pro "smaller government" (as long as you don't cut military spending, or anything too quickly) and pro war (except when a Democratic president starts it, but even then it's usually fine). It's not surprising they would jump behind Cruz, hoping they can pressure him to cave in on spending, like they have Ryan.
Govt hasn't been in a position to enforce conservative social values (at least the ones that liberals don't share) for a long time.
I don't want govt to be going around interrogating people about whether they prefer to sleep with men or women, or govt to force people to pray, but if you look at where liberty is on the ropes, it's not on conservative social issues. Liberty is on the ropes on govt spending and excessive economic regulation (as well as the various Wars On X, which have bipartisan support). So, for the time being, it's the leftists who need to be rhetorically beat up by the lovers of liberty.
I see Rand Paul as sharing most of Ron Paul's ideas, but trying to sell them without offending conservatives (which Ron Paul often did, intentionally and unintentionally), and with a willingness to compromise, as long as it's in the right direction. It's a good test case to see how far a libertarian-leaning politician can get by trying to play politics rather than preaching the ideology.
Dewhurst an arch-conservative? Silly Slate.
Just like John Boehner is an insane radical antigov libertarian cutter.
Why do you hate the orange people, Gladstone?
Dewhurst? Arch-conservative?
That would mean he has some ideology, hell, some ideas, other than "What's in it for Dewhurst? Will this line my pockets? Advance my career?"
Yeah. Its sort of like calling Charlie Crist of 2010 an arch-conservative.
Isn't it funny how the left oversimplifies things? They can't think outside of their own little box. Just because they think in such a hive mentality way, they think everyone else is exactly like them.
They can't possibly see that the GOP and Tea Party are now made up of factions with far differing opinions on some things. Holy Bejeebus, they are the fucking Borg!
Yes, it's only about who the great leader of the Tea Party might be, not about whether Cruz and Paul will vote lock-step on every single issue. It's all about Team!
This writer from Salon sounds exactly like most of the writers at Politico. I couldn't read the entire thing, I stopped reading anything at all, at Politico a long time ago, and I will never start reading Salon. Gawd, I fucking hate collectivists with an unbridled passion. I need a beer.
Deep breaths, Hyperion, deep breaths.
Fuck deep breaths, it's past that time, it's BEER FUCKING O'CLOCK!
We are all collectivists. Humans have a dual nature. We perceive ourselves as unique, individual selves. But our survival depends on interdependence. A decent society finds a good balance between these dual aspects of human nature.
If only there was some way for people to work together without anyone being forced to participate. Some kind of non-coercive collaborative framework of free exchange and enterprise.
You're being silly, Virginian. Tony knows too much freedom is bad for you, and if you don't want to be part of the collective that is too damn bad because the collective requires your participation. If you can't love it, you'd damn well better fake it. Just give them what they ask for, and someday when you need help (you must need help eventually, no?) it will be there for you, because others will be forced to on your behalf.
Collectivism and freedom are not mutually exclusive. To the extent that I support collective action it's to enhance individual freedom, period.
I was unaware that only through government can people act together toward a common goal
When people use the word collectivist, they're talking about more than people being interdependent (which is trivially true). A collectivist is somebody who thinks the individual exists to serve the collective.
You will be assimilated.
If only people weren't born as helpless infants, then your no-coercion fantasy world might be slightly less fantastical.
A fair percentage outgrow the helpless infant stage. Sorry you can't seem to let go.
All are born that way, but only those who choose to stay that way.
If only people weren't born as helpless infants
You mean the ones who somehow avoid getting sliced and diced in the womb due to policies you and your leftist pals cheer on?
Sickening. In a matter of seconds, an entity goes from a lump of cells that Tony will gladly allow to have its skull crushed if another person feels like it, to a "helpless infant" whose protection leftists will use to justify every encroachment on the liberty of adults.
What he said.
Wow, Tony, how incredibly deep and insightful. And meaningless. You fucking idiot.
Conform! Conform!
Conform! Conform!
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Irony that rich should be fattening.
Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live; it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. And unselfishness is letting other people's lives alone, not interfering with them.-Oscar Wilde
It's Bush's fault.
A decent society finds a good balance between these dual aspects of human nature.
And the society you espouse forces it.
Fuck off slaver.
Of course we are Tony.. no libertarian ('cept maybe them crazy Ayn Randroids...) denies that we are social creatures that are inherently interdependant. Absolutely a decent society balances this, thus why we have Unions, Businesses, Trade Associations, Non-profits.. all exist whether government is present or not. We are mostly benevolent, charitable, social enterprising creatures, isn't this an argument in favour of Voluntary Society rather than aginst it?
And does so without infringing upon the rights of one group to the benefit of another.
Actually, I think T is thinking more along the lines of
"A decent society balances these dual aspects of human nature by forcibly subsuming expressions of individualism and independence that I find distasteful."
A decent society finds a good balance between these dual aspects of human nature.
Meaning, I can't get a real job because I went and got a worthless liberal arts degree so that I could become a feminist activist, and really thought someone would pay me for that, and now I have no skills. So, can I pweaaseeee be interdependent with you, mister, pweeasse, even though I am really creepy troll? Mommy is threatening to throw me out of basement. Can't you feel sorry for me???
What collectivists cannot conceive of, is that everyone on this planet can have a very high standard of living. While that can never be brought about through big centralized government and statist policies, it can be a reality through technology.
More equality will never be achieved through statist policies, it will only make things worse. It will greatly enrich a ruling elite class and impoverish all the rest of us. Technology and free markets are the only ways to improve the condition of humans. But big powerful centralized governments must have their power greatly reduced, or they will ruin everything. One of the main things they rely on to keep their huge amount of power is scarcity or the illusion thereof.