Obama's Old Law Professor Presents a Defective Case for Gun Control
In testimony this week before members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Harvard law school professor Laurence Tribe, an influential liberal academic and former teacher of President Barack Obama, told lawmakers that the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 introduced last month by Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) "clearly passes constitutional muster."
To buttress that sweeping statement, Tribe sought assistance from a surprising ally: Robert Levy, the libertarian lawyer who spearheaded the legal challenge to Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban that resulted in the Supreme Court's 2008 ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller. In that landmark case, Justice Antonin Scalia's majority opinion held that the Second Amendment secures an individual right "to use arms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense."
So what was the attorney behind Heller doing as part of Tribe's confident case for new gun control? In his testimony, Tribe pointed to a recent Washington Post interview where Levy discussed the scope of the Second Amendment in light of the Newtown school shooting. According to Tribe's summary, "Even Roberty Levy…concedes that bans on high capacity magazines and assault weapons almost certainly do not infringe the Second Amendment rights he successfully fought to vindicate in court."
I also happened to read Levy's Washington Post interview, so I was a little surprised to find Tribe citing it so favorably in his congressional testimony. That's because while Levy did acknowledge that various firearm regulations could survive under Heller, he conceded nothing resembling Tribe's broad assertion about gun control's constitutionality.
Feinstein's bill, for example, would limit the capacity of ammunition-feeding magazines to 10 rounds. Yet in his Post interview, Levy clearly stated that "a ban on any size of less than 20 rounds would meet with great, great resistance" in court. As Levy explained, "a significant number of existing firearms are configured for 12- to 19-round magazines," thereby putting Feinstein's 10-round limit in direct conflict with the Supreme Court's holding in Heller, which said that the Second Amendment protects the right to possess weapons for self-defense that are "in common use." Levy did say that "a ban on magazines of 20 rounds and above seems to me to be reasonable," but that's a 10-round difference from Feinstein's proposal and in direct contradiction to Tribe's testimony.
As for assault weapons, Levy noted that for any ban on so-called assault weapons to survive judicial review under Heller, it would have to be limited to "dangerous and unusual" weapons "not in common use." And as he explained in the interview, "There are, of course, millions of these so-called assault weapons, and they're used by millions of Americans for all sorts of things, including hunting, self-defense, target shooting, even the Olympics." Feinstein's bill would ban those weapons, though as Levy made clear, Heller recognizes the right to own such commonly-used firearms for self-defense purposes. So much for a bill that "clearly passes constitutional muster."
A closer look at the rest of Tribe's testimony reveals other substantial problems.
Consider his take on how the courts should handle most gun control cases. "Because few public responsibilities are as important to good government as legislating to secure public safety," Tribe declared, "jurists should not casually give the amendment an expansive scope nor unduly scrutinize reasonable firearms regulations."
But how are the courts supposed to determine if a regulation is reasonable or not without scrutinizing it first? Indeed, the whole point of judicial review is to ferret out whether the government has overstepped its limits or trampled on somebody's rights. To say that jurists should not "unduly scrutinize" a "reasonable" regulation is to grant lawmakers a blank check and turn the courts into a rubber stamp. That was the position taken towards gun control in the decades before Heller vindicated the Second Amendment's core membership in the Bill of Rights. Tribe's approach would have the courts turn back the clock on that rights-expanding victory.
The Second Amendment is entitled to much more legal respect than that, especially from the president's old law professor.
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Since "the People" means "everyone but you" when dealing with a public servant, clearly the 2A authorizes "everyone but you" to keep an bear arms. Besides, the word "militia" means National Guard, so the 2A authorizes the military to have arms.
You can't get any more absurd than that, but that is what the grabbers believe. Why the Navy needed no such requirement is a bit of a mystery.
Yes, "the people" in the Second Amendment means something entirely different than "the people" in the First, Fourth, and Ninth Amendments, even though they were all passed at the same time and written by the same person (James Madison).
the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 introduced last month by Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) "clearly passes constitutional muster."
She's a Senator.
WILL OF THE PEOPLE, FTW!
No wonder the Constitutional Scholar in Chief is so wise. His wonderful indoctrinators obviously did their jobs quite well.
But how are the courts supposed to determine if a regulation is reasonable or not without scrutinizing it first?
Just shut up and do as the law professor tells you, Damon. He clearly knows better than you and can lie way better than you too. Just watch his hand-waving for a while and then stop thinking like all the people who actually listen to him do.
The Second Amendment is entitled to much more legal respect than that, especially from the president's old law professor.
But goddamnit, Gabby and Newtown deserve a vote! And by vote, I mean have the demands of opportunistic Democrats unquestionably acquiesced too because they're 'common sense'.
A libertarian can correctly argue that while magazine capacity restrictions might comply with supreme court precedent that doesn't mean it is constitutional.
What is this shit with people calling themselves libertarians and then giving in to collectivist shit? Is the word "libertarian" starting to get raped as badly as the corpse of the word "liberal"?
Yes.
If Heller protects the right to own weapons "in common use," how are NY's new laws not unconstitutional? Most handguns these days are semiauto, correct? And don't most hold more than seven rounds?
By the way, I love the new trend of gunmakers refusing to sell to law enforcement in states where their guns and magazines are outlawed for use by regular citizens.
The most commonly owned rifle in the country right now are the various AR-based "assault rifles".
Enormous numbers of semi-auto handguns take "high-capacity" magazines as standard equipment.
I still don't see the Constitutional basis for giving cops, either in their professional, or in their off-duty/retired roles, special gun rights that are denied to the rest of the citizenry.
That is all.
I still don't see the Constitutional basis for giving cops, either in their professional, or in their off-duty/retired roles, special gun rights that are denied to the rest of the citizenry.
Warrior Caste, Thin Blue Line, Gang Mentality, call it what you will.
Once you're in, you're in for life, unless you violate the "code."
I think that our friend Remington 700 would have something to say about that. Smi-auto, sure, but not rifle.
Next we need the Hughes amendment to FOPA to get struck down or changed by congress.
We should have the right to the same weapons provided to soldiers and marines. Period. How else can we form an effective militia?
Eh, I'm willing to compromise on fully-automatic weapons, but an AR-15 is not an "assault rifle" or a "weapon of war," so this b.s. about "assault weapons" has to stop.
If Heller protects the right to own weapons "in common use," how are NY's new laws not unconstitutional?
They are almost certainly unconstitutional under current precedent.
"Most are semi-auto correct" - yeeees, most people don't run around with machine pistols.
"And don't most hold more than seven rounds?" - incorrect, most hold 10+ rounds, usually 14 - 19.
I'm having a hard time understand how 14-19 isn't somehow greater than 7.
Simple people can see the truth. It takes a very intelligent person to twist reality into knots.
I don't know about that. It takes an intelligent person to take a complex problem and break it down into smaller, easily solved, components.
It takes a stupid like Tony to insist that everything must be so complex that only experts can understand them (meaning that the stupids like Tony cannot themselves break the complicated problem into solvable components).
Thus when we present the simple components of a complex problem or argument, the stupids accuse us of being simple and stupid.
Kinda ironic, ya think?
Semi OT: DHS buying billions of rounds of ammo.
Hey, "spray and pray" is hard on the inventory.
"clearly passes constitutional muster."
If the Obamacare insurance mandate passed constitutional muster, there's a really good chance that Tribe is correct.
Didn't Larry Tribe once refer to himself as an originalist?
2A
It's like, so old
At least a hundred years
Can you even understand it?
Thought not.
Seems odd how Supreme Court decisions often don't rest on principle. That arms "in common usage" are protected by the Second Amendment, but "unusual" ones aren't doesn't strike me as a very useful, i.e. principled argument. If previous bans have rendered something "unusual", it is therefore not protected ? But because Glock et al developed handguns that hold near 20 rounds, and there was a time when they were allowed to become in common usage, then 20 becomes the Constitutional limit on magazine capacity ? Say a modern day John Browning develops an entirely new type of hand gun, something that doesn't exist now. I guess it wouldn't be protected because it's unusual and not in common usage.
I still don't see the Constitutional basis for giving cops, either in their professional, or in their off-duty/retired roles, special gun rights that are denied to the rest of the citizenry.
That sounds like as good an argument for individual ownership of M-16s if I've ever heard it. When every infantryman issued one, how can that be considered anything but commonplace?
Considering that Feinstein cites in support of her bill a UPenn study that directly says "Should it be renewed, the ban's effects on gun violence are likely to be small at best and perhaps too small for reliable measurement. AWs ["assault weapons"] were rarely used in gun crimes even before the ban. LCMs [large capacity mags] are involved in a more substantial share of gun crimes, but it is not clear how often the outcomes of gun attacks depend on the ability of offenders to fire more than ten shots (the current magazine capacity limit) without reloading..." I'm pretty sure that reading comprehension isn't really the gun grabbers' 'thing'.
It seems that Tribe is a victim of our government education system - he seemingly doesn't know how to think, along with many other democrats. And since Johnny can't read either, government failure in the education system is showing its ugly head in yet another way once again...
Heller was wrongly decided, as any reasonable, literate person can learn merely by taking at face value the plain meaning of the 2nd amendment's own words.
The 2nd am tells us that a militia is a right to keep and bear arms. This alters slightly the definition of a militia as it had been in Article I and Article II, but the new and improved definition of militia retains the previous definition of a militia as an organization thoroughly regulated by Congress and firmly commanded by the president. The phrase "well regulated" stresses this point about the militia remaining a centrally controlled organization of the government.
So, the 2nd amendment seeks to place with the militia a monopoly on the keeping and bearing of arms by citizens who are not government employees. In other words, government is to have a monopoly on the possession of guns by and through its agents in the militia. If you aren't in the militia, then you aren't exercising a right to keep and bear arms, at least according to the great 2nd amendment.
It's not exactly by the way that the 13th amendment, too, makes use of a rhetorical trick to endow government with a monopoly. The clause that begins with the word "except" tells us that although the government will no longer tolerate private slavery, the government itself may keep and use slaves. In other words, government has authority to monopolize enslavement.