Justin Amash to Boehner: You Are Not Doing a Good Job, and Are Not Welcome in My State
The fight over the four congressmen (Reps. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) and Tim Huelskamp (R-Kansas) from the House Budget Committee, Reps. David Schweikert (R-Ariz.) and Walter Jones (R-N.C.) from Financial Services Committee) booted from committee positions for, they say, being uncooperative with the GOP on spending (wanting to cut it too much) is getting personal.
Amash tells House Speaker John Boehner that he is not welcome in Amash's Michigan:
"If Speaker Boehner wants to come back to my district, he's not going to be met with very much welcome," Amash told reporters this afternoon.
Amash, who was elected in 2010, was recently booted off of the budget committee by House Republicans. Amash blames Boehner for orchestrating his removal.
Amash added that he has little faith in Boehner's negotiating tactics.
"I spent a lot of time saying, 'Speaker Boehner is doing the best job we can do.' I did that for a year, a year in a half. But we're not doing the best job we can do," Amash said. "We need people who are going to be bold, we need leaders."
"This is about who's fighting for the American people," Amash said. "I want to speak out now because I want to encourage my colleagues to be more outspoken."
The grassroots may be rising in their defense; conservative site RedState is rallying the troops to call/harass their congressmen to find out if they supported the demotions and to demand reinstatement for the Fantastic Four (if this name for them catches on, royalties please.)
These signs of not laying down on the part of these congressmen is heartening, but it does limn the fact that the Party as a whole is not only unreliable on fiscal discipline, it is prepared to punish those who are. We'll see how many phone calls change that.
I blogged the other week about Amash's first wave of anger over this.
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My current rep is a Democrat, otherwise I would harass him.
Harass him anyway. He's a rep. He deserves it.
When I lived in Tallahassee, harassing Allen Boyd was a hobby of mine. I'd make sure to call his office with some suggestions at least once a week, but sometimes I'd call a few times in a day if I was bored.
shouldn't you harass him because he's a Dem?
I should have also mentioned that he's on his way out in three weeks, so he probably cares even less than usual.
harass the new one; never too early to start building a relationship.
I think his reasoning is that he's more likely to get results from a Republican, as Tulpa's (or a lot of commenters') harassment is probably a bit more Republicanesque than Demmy.
That, and I don't think the minority party's opinions really matter when it comes to selecting the Speaker or populating the majority seats on committees.
so a couple of Repubs have decided to represent the fiscally conservative wing of the party. Too bad those who had the chance weren't this vocal when the GOP held both houses AND the Oval Office. Maybe we would have been spared No Child. And Medicare Part D. And Homeland Security. And its evil spawn, the TSA. And maybe they wouldn't have been so quick to hop on the TARP bandwagon.
The first step toward being taken seriously is to act seriously. Perhaps Amash has some cover here but he seems outnumbered within his own ranks.
And Homeland Security. And its evil spawn, the TSA.
Why do you want Al Qaeda to win, wareagle?
/typical GOP voter
Yeah - WHY WON'T WE JUST INVOKE SHARIA LAW NOW, "WAR"CHICKEN!!!11!
Too bad those who had the chance weren't this vocal when the GOP held both houses AND the Oval Office.
I don't disagree with your general point, but other than Ron Paul were there any actual fiscal conservatives in congress during that time period?
good point...evidently, most of the rest were playing fis-cons on t-v.
An Ohioan is not welcome in Michigan? Shocking development.
In a related story, an Ohio state trooper pulled over and ticketed a vehicle with Michigan license plate that was doing 2 MPH over the speed limit...
Yeah, I kind of got the feeling that he would lose exactly zero votes over the remark on that basis alone.
That's my rep - thank goodness.
...and to demand reinstatement for the Fantastic Four (if this name for them catches on, royalties please.)
I'm pretty sure someone already owns the copyright.
Lex Luthor?
I think it's disgraceful that he would steal from the pockets of an 89 year old man.
demand reinstatement for the Fantastic Four (if this name for them catches on, royalties please.)
Fuck that noise. Stan Lee is already raking in more than he deserves.
Stan Lee is already raking in more than he deserves.
Really? And just how much does he deserve and who makes that determination?
With great power comes great assholishness.
They are Assholio!
They need TP for their bungholes!
Bunggggggholio!
^^Worst haiku evarrrrrrrrr.^^
ARE YOU THREATENING ME!
I AM CORNHOLIO!
The Fiscantastic Four?
The Fiscal Four works.
The Fiscalicious Four?
These signs of not laying down on the part of these congressmen is heartening, but it does limn the fact that the Party as a whole is not only unreliable on fiscal discipline, it is prepared to punish those who are.
In what sense has the GOP ever been "unreliable" in lacking fiscal discipline?
"America The GOP is a whorehouse... where the revolutionary ideals of your their forefathers... are corrupted and sold in alleys by vendors of capitalism cronyism..."
Winner.
I'm sure that, should the GOP not want them, the LP would be happy to welcome its first congressmen.
It's congressperson, CN. Jeez, what's next? Are you gonna refer to the women in the House as Congresscunts?
No wonder libertarians aren't taken seriously.
Tim Huelskamp is a chick? I did not know that.
That's how I refer to everyone in Congress.
Seriously, Amash. Just tell the GOP to fuck off. Sure, you'll probably lose the next election, but then so will your GOP opponent.
I like this idea. +2
Given how relatively pissed off the Tea Party is with the establishment Republicans I am not so certain that Amash would lose if he really stood up to them and was still a reliable conservative voter.
He might even gain some votes from those who would never otherwise vote Republican
Perhaps the he could pick up some of Libertarian vote in that district, which was 4%
Not so sure of the latter part. If the Libertarians (the party) were serious, they would well consider beating the drums for the fiscal four. If things pan out the way I expect there is a very real opening (not huge, but there) for the Libertarian party to actually break out into national prominence. I mean imagine this scenario - just one of them flips to Libertarian. Boehner folds to Obama like a pet show dog. The economy tanks. Tea Party v. 2.0 breaks out. Boehner and the mainstream Republicans are now toxic to them because they voted for Mr. Obama's recession/depression. The Tea Parties go Libertarian. With Tea Party support (and the advantage of incumbency), the defecting congressman wins re-election and a couple of additional Libertarians get elected. That, in turn, triggers a wave of flips by a number of Tea Party congressmen and possibly Sen. Paul, maybe Sen. Cruz (we'll see). Now, you've got the recipe for a major U.S. political realignment.
Not saying this is a given. Just a scenario. There's a lot of ifs there. But, not a lot of very big ifs (once the prior if comes to pass). The biggest ifs in the bunch are the Tea Parties go Libertarian (and one of the fiscal four defects. But, that's something Libertarians can have a say in. Making that come to pass is their job.
"We found the body face down with a knife in the back. The handle had a strange sticky orange dye all over it, not blood, the lab is stumped."
...somewhere
a Speaker
is weeping.
And somewhere
a king has no wife.
And the wind
screams, "Mary!"
That's twice in 2 days Reason has printed the alleged word "limn". Word-A-Day calendars only explain one of those instances. WTF are you people smoking up there?
WTF are you people smoking up there
Dollars to donuts they're shacked up in Colorado getting "medical treatment".
Dollars to donuts they're shacked up in Colorado getting "medical treatment".
And many of them would probably take that bet, if you know what I mean, and I think you do. /munchies
Reason is headquartered in LA. No need to travel long distances, to cold climates...
I guess you don't read many Michiko Kakutani book reviews. She's known for ridiculous overuse of "limn."
I don't know about you, entropy, but where I come from, them is fightin' words.
Actually, my pet name for her is "cuntface." She sucks.
This is why nobody takes libertarians seriously.
Amusingly, my real-life bff, also female, is the one with whom I call her "cuntface."
You keep that up and Ken will accuse you of not being a real woman.
Just like you're not really a multi-ethnic, multi-racial, linguistic genius who allegedly only lives to fling poo at demonstrable Islamo-Religionista-Nutbars and mock our hip, young, beleaguered President?
According to Kendoll Shulz, Keeper of the The Libertarian Ark of the Covenant, where now The Jacket symbiote slumbers, and Self-Appointed All-Around-Dispenser-of-Dogmatic Purity?
My! Nicole, you are clearly fronting a girl-grape flavoured false-consciousness. That mansplains everything!
Actually, my pet name for her is "cuntface." She sucks.
I see what you did there.
Ugh. Life's too short to read Kakutani.
I made a really good joke about her on Twitter once and no one cared. Let me find it...ah yes, regarding her overuse of The Word and general suckiness: "We are our own suffering. She merely...limns it."
Now no one can care here as well, but I'm still proud.
Well, we all have our favorite words.
For English, mine is "behoove".
estoppel
But I like, never get to use that shit. It's just awesome.
"congruent"
An all time favourite of mine.
Well, it behooves you to find situations to use that word, or you might be estopped when someone counterclaims that it isn't your favorite word.
You probably would have had to become a lawyer to use it, so good on you.
That was for nicole, btw.
Albeit, caveat, and fuck.
Good name for law firm.
I lol'd. It works on so many levels!
dodecahedron - friend dropped that when we were playing "Word Disassociation" in college (stoned, of course) and I laughed so hard I almost choked to death.
Still funny. I think it's a 13 sided - no, 12 sided - object, IIRC (he was a math major).
Oh man. I did not know about this game. I have use for it.
BP, thanks. And CN, the law firm thing is genius.
Sphygmomanometer. I actually call it that at the hospital. It really irritates some people; that's why I continue to call it that.
Tergiversation, a WFB word.
Any votes for "cromulent"?
I have no idea who that is. For a second I thought maybe you were talking about Michio Kaku, but he's a dude and I've never heard him say 'limn'.
She's the NYT's lead book reviewer.
"The stupidest person in New York City is currently the lead reviewer of fiction for the New York Times." -- Jonathan Franzen
They just kneel down on the linoleum floor boards, flick a lighter to it, and huff the linseed rosin from the rising smoke. It isn't pretty but it gets the job done.
OT: The fuck? I thought we were there so long because we had to make sure that women could go to school and didn't have to wear burkas. Now we can't even tell Afghani people that kid-fucking is wrong?
So you're saying they probably shouldn't talk about thick libertarianism then?
Well, from what I've seen, they like their girls to be a bit zaftig over there, so I think we're still good.
That's just so they can haul more firewood while the men are busy raping children.
...because backing down to barbaric bullies always works so well.
So Jerry Sanduskey's prison job is ghost writing manuals for DOD?
Up next, suppression of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MReV9dkAVhY
Terribly insensitive...
Now we can't even tell Afghani people that kid-fucking is wrong?
Depends, goats or humans?
Soldiers and Marines never read handbooks - except those directly relating to weapons or enemy order of battle.
That's twice in 2 days Reason has printed the alleged word "limn".
It's a real word. Just in case you weren't using the word alleged sarcastically or ironically or something.
WTF? That was supposed to be in response in to entropy. I blame the squirrelz.
It's a stupid word.
Not it's not. You add it to a rum & Coke to make a Cuba Libre.
I thought you put it with the coconut and shaked it all up?
Oh, you mean limon?
I don't think there's much question that Boehner has been thoroughly and utterly pwned.
The current situation has the Republicans in a box, and anyone thinking ahead should have seen this box coming. The debt ceiling deal suckered the Republicans into being the party opposing tax cuts, and has split the party, all for nothing.
Guess what happens on January 1? The tax increase Obama wants (and a bunch of others) goes into effect, and the Dems can start campaigning as the party of lower taxes, push a bill to reduce taxes to the Bush levels for the 98%, etc. I'm sure the Dem operatives gamed this out back when the deal was made, and the Repubs must have failed to do so. Boehner failed on that front.
Then, he opens the negotiations here be selling out his base (splitting the party) by proposing MOAR REVENUE! and saying there's no way he'll let the country go off the cliff. If you aren't willing to walk away from a negotiation, you aren't negotiating, you're begging. And he's begging to do something his base hates.
As for spending, well, entitlements will not be cut as part of the cliff, per the original deal that Boehner negotiated, so the Dems have nothing to lose. Defense will, so the Repubs do. And, it sets Obama up to restore (some of) the defense cuts, thus posing as not only a tax-cutter but also as pro-military.
The Repubs are fucked, and its Boehner's fault. Personally, I hope it wrecks the party to clear the decks for a new more-libertarian party.
In other words, there's a reason the Repubs are called the Stupid Party.
several reasons, actually
At this point, there are 2 goods that can come of the cliff:
1) We go over it and have a wee reduction in spending
2) More importantly: wrecking Boehner. This is a writeoff moment for the GOP and conservatives (I know we aren't them but still). They've lost and that's that. The goal of Amash and others like him in the GOP is to make Boehner's life suck so he can tossed out and replaced with someone that can field for the really important battle: the next debt ceiling raise.
Kudos to Mr. Amash! It's nice to know there will still be someone in the House who still has a pair between his legs after Ron Paul retires.
What the fuck does "limn" mean?
"What the fuck is a limn job?"
If they are not doing a good job, then FIRE them!
http://www.AnonSurfit.tk
When you've lost a, literally, anonymous person on the Internet, it's time to pack it in, Boehner.