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Joe Manchin Complains to MTV About New Reality Show Based in West Virginia, Lack of Serious Programming

Bemoans the lack of substance on MTV without a hint of irony

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MTV is producing a "Jersey Shore" style reality show based in West Virginia called "Buckwild," set to premiere in January,  and West Virginia's junior senator, Joe Manchin, is not pleased. So displeased was he that he sent MTV's president a letter.

Wrote Manchin: "As a U.S. Senator, I am repulsed at this business venture, where some Americans are making money off of the poor decisions of our youth. " Profiting off the poor decisions of youth? Sounds like the bread and butter of what some politicians do. In Manchin's view, though he's never actually seen the show, MTV "preyed on young people, coaxed them into displaying shameful behavior".

What would Manchin have preferred? MTV producing an infomercial for West Virginia, or maybe a propaganda film? Manchin continued: "Your program offers nothing about the major issues of our time: how we move our country forward, how we prepare young people to lead this country and take responsibility for themselves and how we put our finances in better shape for the next generation."

MTV's programming may not offer real talk about the country's future. But it is MTV, it's silly to expect that from them, even if they may have used to do it. Instead, Manchin ought to look at his fellow senators, many of whom who have remained as silent as MTV on the issues Manchin says he cares about. The Senate, for example, hasn't passed a budget in more than 1,200 days. And, unlike MTV, it's their job.

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  1. If I want to see rednecks doing redneck things I’ll just look out my front window.

    1. True enough. The more you treat people like babies, the more they act like babies. Even when my kids were small they acted more like adults than most of the “of-age” people on TV. They knew how to play, but they also knew how to act in public, and when to get serious.

      1. More importantly, put a camera in front of a bunch of redneck teens, and they’re -guaranteed- to do something stupid.

        1. “Hey ya’ll, watch this!”

          1. “Hold my beer and watch this.”

        2. More importantly, put a camera in front of a bunch of redneck teens, and they’re -guaranteed- to do something stupid.

        3. More importantly, put a camera in front of a bunch of redneck teens, and they’re -guaranteed- to do something stupid.

          I mean, c’mon, its not like redneck teenagers have a monopoly on stupid.

          1. No, but they tend to have access to things, and just enough mechanical ability, which allows them to do really stupid stuff.

            1. Ah the perrenial argument. Which is more dangerous: redneck engineering or hippie engineering?

              1. I’d say redneck on average. They tend to have access to more guns and large machinery. Hard call, though.

              2. Uh, amateur bomb-making vs. amateur bong-making?

    2. If I want to see rednecks doing redneck things I’ll just look out my front window.

      Are they attractive not fat rednecks?

  2. Well, if it’s anything like ‘Jersey Shore’ they will set out to confirm the very worst stereotypes about West Virginia, and will import idiots from out of state to do so.

    1. From what I’ve seen of the preview trailers (hah!), it looks a lot like growing up in NC, except for instead of making a swimming pool out of a dump truck we used pickup trucks.

      1. Was this because you had no dump trucks available or are North Carolingians not very good swimmers?

      2. My favorite was using a tractor tire inner tube for a floatation device. Only problem was those bastards would scorch your ass if you didn’t flip ’em over every few minutes.

        1. That’s not true redneck there though… in my day we tied two o’ dem inner tubes together, slapped a screen door on it, and walla — we had ourselves a new fishin’ boat!

  3. As a U.S. Senator, I am repulsed at this business venture

    WHERE’S MY CUT?

    1. “As a U.S. Senator”

      This preface is disturbing:
      1. Are his objections more valid because of his job?
      2. Does he think his stupid opinions are made magically smart when he waves his Senator’s wand?
      3. Is he threatening the Producers with his Senatorial power?
      4. Is he looking to intimidate the Producers to set them up for some future benefit for the Senator.
      5. Shouldn’t he be prohibited from saying “AS a Senator” when commenting on things that are not his Senatorial beeswax?

  4. “Your program offers nothing about the major issues of our time: how we move our country forward, how we prepare young people to lead this country and take responsibility for themselves and how we put our finances in better shape for the next generation.”

    Guess what, Joe; if you don’t like this “Jackass” ripoff, you really really wouldn’t like a show about that other stuff. Not if I had anything to do with it.

    1. …and how we put our finances in better shape for the next generation

      There is no way to do this as a “reality” show.

  5. It looks more like Laguna Beach in West Virginia to me. But then I don’t watch this shit. I have never watched a single episode of Jersey Shore or Laguna Beach.

    Buckwild Cast

  6. Rural teens get rowdy and act like fools because there’s nothing else to do?!?! That’s never happened before in the history of the world!!!

    1. Footloose: The Documentary.

  7. Congresscritter postures for his own publicity, film at 11.

    1. Shouldn’t there be plenty of stock footage of this phenomenon by now?

    2. More like Congresscritter worried that camera might show who he actually represents, and start people thinking that maybe, just maybe, West Virginia oughtn’t to have 2 US Senators. Didn’t they used to be part of Virginia?

  8. “Your program offers nothing about the major issues of our time: how we move our country forward, how we prepare young people to lead this country and take responsibility for themselves and how we put our finances in better shape for the next generation.”

    This should just be sent as an open letter to all the people who run TV. Seriously, does this guy own a TV? Has he ever watched anything on it?

    1. how we prepare young people to lead this country and take responsibility for themselves and how we put our finances in better shape for the next generation

      I dunno, maybe it’s just me, but it seems to me like the way we are ‘moving our country forward’ is a complete contradiction to responsibility and better finances for the future.

      1. And “as a US Senator”, maybe he should stay clear of talking about responsibility and finances for a while.

  9. Let’s just face it. Toothless rednecks from WV are more interesting than a bunch of androgynous or metrosexual droids from NYC.

    1. “Toothless?” Heck, most of ’em got at least four! Just ask their dentist, Floyd, down at the barber shop.

      Hear the WV Governor’s house burned down? Yep, right down to the axles.

      1. If the toothbrush was invented in any state but WV, it’d be called the teethbrush.

        1. WV, where murders go unsolved since there are no dental records and everyone’s got the same DNA.

          1. I laughed.. hee haw

  10. “Your program offers nothing about the major issues of our time: how we move our country forward, how we prepare young people to lead this country and take responsibility for themselves and how we put our finances in better shape for the next generation.”

    Duh, it’s fucking Television.

    Next this jackass will be complaining that people aren’t who they say they are on the internet.

    1. people aren’t who they say they are on the internet

      Say whaaaat?

      1. My SO was watching a show about this the other day; apparently people develop relationships online fully believing the other person.

        I was dumbfounded. I seriously could not believe people are this stupid.

        1. A guy I used to work with met his wife online. Last I knew they were still married.

          OTOH, I went to a gathering of a bunch of FIDOnet people years ago. Online one of these guys was the biggest jerk, calling me all sorts of anti-semitic (my ancestors were 18th Century Jamestown protestants) names and all sorts of stuff. In person, he was the nicest guy. Back on the echo, he was back to verbally hacking at me.

          1. I have a friend who got his wife online from Russia. Still married, happy.

        2. People online aren’t particularly trustworthy, but they also aren’t less trustworthy than people you don’t know in the real world. If inability to trust a stranger is a reason to avoid building relationships, you might as well go be a hermit because you’re never going to have a relationship with anyone.

      2. Wait until we find out that Sloopy is actually an alumnus of the University of Michigan.

  11. At least they won’t have orange skin.

    1. Bad spray-on tan reference?

      1. I assume that the Jersey Shore morons have spray-on tans. And John Boehner.

        1. Ah! Never watched Jersey Shore. Or Jackass. Or Buck Wild. I’d rather have a kerosene enema. Lit.

          1. I’ve only seen Jersey Shore filtered through Beavis and Butthead. And that’s all I need to see.

  12. I think we’ve reached the point where half the stuff on TV is the producers trying to get criticized by U.S. Senators to get better publicity.

    The other half is taking edgy new programming ideas and, just to be on the safe side, adding enough sex comedy to make the program like all the others.

    1. Because the only thing sustaining *Big Bang Theory* is making desperate attempts to keep it in traditional sex-comedy territory.

      1. With Dr. Sheldon Cooper playing the part of LCDR Spock.

        1. “Your method of lovemaking is not logical, but it does have its attractions…”

      2. A friend of mine calls Big Bang Theory the Amos & Andy of geeks.

        1. Someone on H and R once made the analogy

          Big Bang Theory:Nerds::Black Face:African Americans

          That seems to hit the nail on the head.

          1. That analogy doesn’t hold up. Where are all the humorless white intellectuals telling us that the type “nerdface” seen in the Big Bang Theory is never funny and no decent person can ever defend it for any reason.

            Then it would be like blackface.

    2. I think we’ve reached the point where half the stuff on TV is the producers trying to get criticized by U.S. Senators to get better publicity. Peak Derp.

      ftfy

      1. And just when you think we’ve reached Peak Derp….here comes TEEVEELand to up the ante once more.

        1. This show doesn’t even ante the ante, much less up it.

          Honey Boo-Boo is the current peak of herp-a-derp.

          1. Until James Cameron raises the bar.

            “James Cameron doesn’t do what James Cameron does for James Cameron, James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is James Cameron.”

            1. I loved that episode.

    3. If the self-appointed guardians of virtue in the media had a clue, they’d learn about the Streisand effect.

      1. The point of covering a scandal story is to alert the public to something kinky going on in real life or popular entertainment, but with an overlay of moral outrage for the benefit of viewers who might be jealous.

        1. real life *and/or* popular entertainment

  13. Manchin continued: “Your program offers nothing about the major issues of our time: how we move our country forward, how we prepare young people to lead this country and take responsibility for themselves and how we put our finances in better shape for the next generation.”

    We may as well look to MTV to address the major issues in a serious fashion, since we know perfectly well that the Senate won’t.

    1. Thanks, Manchin, for giving this show free publicity and causing even more people to watch it.

    2. Maybe they could do the classics. It would sort of be like the old PBS show, Wishbone, but instead of an adorable dog playing Jean Valjean, the characters are played by the illiterate cast members. And just like the dog was surrounded by humans, we could surround the Jersey Shore/Buckwild people with Shakespearean actors.

  14. MTV (or C-Span) should do a similar ‘reality’ show focusing on the lives of the wealthy children of Senators. I doubt there’d be much difference in the essential character of the participants. The only difference would be the level of their vocabulary and the quality of their surroundings.

    1. Certain groups (New Jerseyans/the Snooki Class; and Appalachia) are acceptable targets for bigotry and denigration.

      SWPL types like the wealthy children of Senators aren’t.

  15. “As a U.S. Senator, I am repulsed at this business venture, where some Americans are making money off of the poor decisions of our youth

    What the fuck is this guy talking about? We have a president currently sitting in the white house as a direct result of the poor decisions of our youth.

    1. Not to mention the piss-poor decisions of the young people who signed up for the military.

      1. You mean the ones not assigned to drone, uh, …squadrons?

    2. some Americans are making money off of the poor decisions of our youth

      That probably describes about, what, a quarter of the economy?

  16. Jerry Springer started 25 years ago and you’re ONLY NOW complaining about TV shows making money trading on social stereotypes of redneck white trash?

    But seriously …
    My personal view is that it’s been socially acceptable for a LONG time to be essentially bigoted against white southerners and constantly portray them as uneducated redneck hicks on television, in a way that would be considered blatantly racist if it were done with respect to blacks or asians. Everyone knows this. It’s not even really an insight.

    What’s interesting to me is that I feel that in recent years there’s been some lessening of this stereotype. You see films coming out like ‘Tucker and Dale vs. Evil’ that make fun of it, and it’s started to get a little bit lame to trade on redneck stereotypes and make redneck jokes. It’s tired and boring.

    And reality TV is also getting tired and boring. So, in a way this whole show is the tail end of a dying trend of both reality TV and redneck-baiting – which is the sort of thing that happens when trends die. They get broader and grosser and stupider. So, in reality, what’s going on here isn’t reality breaking new territory or crossing some line that previously existed, it’s a reality TV retread chasing old territory that has gradually become off-limits as the culture has changed.

    1. My personal view is that it’s been socially acceptable for a LONG time to be essentially bigoted against white southerners and constantly portray them as uneducated redneck hicks on television, in a way that would be considered blatantly racist if it were done with respect to blacks or asians. Everyone knows this. It’s not even really an insight.

      I think this is true, but only because rednecks don’t generally give much of a shit.

      1. Or the Irish. We can take it.

        1. We just know it’s true. All of it. Every time.

        2. Ummmm…..

          The “Irish” about as bitchy about being stereotyped as any ethnic group can get.

          1. Dunno. I’m part-Irish and don’t get my panties in a bunch about racist comments about that portion of my ancestry.

            1. If the Irish were truly sensitive, St. Patrick’s Day would be condemned as a giant minstrel parade and “paddy wagons” would never be uttered again in polite company.

              And if the Irish were concerned about how people perceive them, they would arrange to have Boston nuked from orbit.

              1. And if the Irish were concerned about how people perceive them, they would arrange to have Boston nuked from orbit.

                Do you think we could talk them into that?

        3. Or the Irish. We can take it.

          “Alright, we’ll give some land to the niggers and the chinks, but we don’t want the Irish!”

      2. It’s more that rednecks, being culturally marginalized couldn’t do anything about it, and eventually embraced the stereotype and turned it into a ‘Redneck Pride’ kind of thing.

        Much like gays reclaiming the word ‘queer’, the word ‘redneck’ went from being a slur to a positive self-description.

        I don’t think it’s so much the “not caring” as it is using the same tactics that every other marginalized group has used to turn stereotypes around on the person using them.

        1. Plus they get to lord it over people when they need their car fixed or, I don’t know, to be rescued from rattlesnakes or something.

        2. I think it’s more that just “redneck pride” or embracing the stereotype. It is also just cultural difference. A lot of things that “rednecks” would do are made fun of by others, but they are still awesome things to do. There’s nothing wrong with drinking expensive coffee and eating arugula or with making a swimming pool in a dump truck. But both activities get made fun of a lot.

          1. I love being a redneck. I love the whole “I don’t give a shit” attitude. I am pretty sure that my Tampa co-workers believe that I go out cow tipping every Saturday night and that is fine by me. While they’re trying to act far more sophisticated than they really are at the Blue Martini I’m having a blast at a little beachfront bar that no one but us Ruskinites even know about.

      3. Us white people don’t get upset by negative racial stereotyping because deep down we “suffer” from a superiority complex.

    2. You know a trend is over when the US Senate starts talking about it.

      1. I thought it was when it was covered in WaPo and WSJ?

        What do I know – I’m from flyover country…

      2. The kids now-a-days with their cartoons like, what is it, Beaver and Buffcoat?

    3. When you see a program like this, you see what the producers would *love* to do with blacks or Asians or Jews if it were PC to do so*, but which they are content to do with “rednecks” because – for a brief cultural moment – they’re legit targets.

      *And if the producers happen to be black, Asian or Jewish they’re probably thinking of a way to do their own group and cash in, not to mention pissing off good old Mom and Dad (or Grandma and Grandpa).

      1. Right. And I don’t think anyone would be complaining about it right now if it weren’t starting to get a little bit un-PC to start doing it to “rednecks”.

        Which is a good thing in the larger scheme of things.

      2. Did you not see Flava-Flav’s ‘The Bachelor’ reality rip-off? It was popular with the blacks who identified with it and the white trash, for whom it reinforced their racial stereotypes.

    4. My personal view is that it’s been socially acceptable for a LONG time to be essentially bigoted against white southerners and constantly portray them as uneducated redneck hicks on television, in a way that would be considered blatantly racist if it were done with respect to blacks

      You’ve never seen a gangsta rap video? Or any sitcom with a majority-Black cast? C’mon son!

      1. Good point. It’s done with Jews all the time too.

        1. Of course, what do people think Steinfield was about?

      2. Should also point out that a black “red neck” woman is in the picture of the show above…

    5. So, in a way this whole show is the tail end of a dying trend of both reality TV and redneck-baiting – which is the sort of thing that happens when trends die.

      You sound far more optimistic about that than I am.

  17. “Your program offers nothing about the major issues of our time: how we move our country forward, how we prepare young people to lead this country and take responsibility for themselves and how we put our finances in better shape for the next generation.”

    No – that’s why we have South Park – GET A CLUE, MORAN!

  18. Your program Senate offers nothing about the major issues of our time: how we move our country forward, how we prepare young people to lead this country and take responsibility for themselves and how we put our finances in better shape for the next generation.

    And at least one, maybe two, of those is the Senate’s actual purpose in life.

    1. My what? Come on man, don’t leave me hangin.

      1. Effin’ HTML.

        I blame the skwerlz. And Bush.

        1. HTML worked fine until that damn Bush came along.

  19. “Your program offers nothing about the major issues of our time: how we move our country forward, how we prepare young people to lead this country and take responsibility for themselves and how we put our finances in better shape for the next generation.”

    So maybe you can get Manchin to write a letter asking MTV or other networks to give big play to Reason TV??

  20. Frankly I consider shit like this, Jersy Girl, Honey Boo-Boo, etc. to be a public service. It’s useful sometimes to have a reminder of just how stupid and useless most people really are.

    1. Until they vote. Then they suddenly receive all knowledge and wisdom, although only temporarily, as in that episode of ST:TOS. My majoritarian statist friends tell me so.

    2. Useless, perhaps, but definitely not stupid. Honey Boo Boo’s mom is cashing in, and not just by clipping coupons.

  21. Sounds like a pretty solid plan to me man. Wow.

    http://www.GetsAnon.tk

  22. Finally someone found a value in reality TV programming: showing the complete failure of state-run schools.

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