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Mayor Bloomberg Says Cops Should Go On Strike Until Americans Give Up Their Guns

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New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg told CNN's Piers Morgan last night that he doesn't "understand why police officers across this country don't stand up collectively and say we're going to go on strike, we're not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what's required to keep us safe."

We've been hearing a lot of that recently. Earlier this year, The New York Times reprinted a Department of Justice press release and slapped this lede on top of it: "As violent crime has decreased across the country, a disturbing trend has emerged: Rising numbers of police officers are being killed."

Bloomberg and The New York Times are both wrong:

  • In 2008, ten times more civilians regular people were killed by cops than cops were killed by perps.
  • In 2011, 72 cops were shot and killed in the entire U.S.; in L.A. County alone, cops shot and killed 54 suspects the same year–22 percent of those people were unarmed. 
  • As Scott Reeder reported at Reason this morning, "Farmers, ranchers, commercial fishermen, loggers, garbage collectors, truck drivers, construction workers, pilots, steel workers, roofers, and others are far more likely to face death on the jobs than police or firefighters, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics."
  • And as Choire Sicha wrote earlier this year, "2008 was the ten-year low for police officers being killed, and 2012 is, so far, year-to-date, down 49% from last year." 

Bloomberg, the commander of "the seventh biggest army in the world" went on to say that "police officers want to go home to their families. And we're doing everything we can to make their job more difficult, but more importantly, more dangerous, by leaving guns in the hands of people who shouldn't have them and letting people who have those guns buy things like armor piercing bullets."

The statistics say that the jobs of police officers are getting increasingly safer. After all, even the smallest departments now have access to battle-tested body armor, weaponry, vehicles, and unmanned drones; SWAT and raid training courtesy of outfits like Academi (the company formerly known as Blackwater now trains officers "who conduct warrant service, fugitive apprehension, SWAT operations and drug search warrants who are in need of sound tactics and techniques"); asset forfeiture funds from the Department of Justice; and a neutered-and-spayed 4th Amendment, courtesy of the United States Supreme Court. 

Thanks to all of that, cops are more likely than ever to return safely to their families every night. 

But what about the rest of us? What about Kelly Thomas, who screamed for his father while five cops beat him to death? Or Patricia Cook, shot to death by a deranged alcoholic with a badge? Or Andrew Scott, killed during a wrong-door raid? Or Nick Christie, gagged and pepper-sprayed to death by prison guards? Or Seth Adams, shot four times by a cop behind his family business, then left to die? Or Wendell Allen, who was unarmed when a New Orleans cop shot and killed him during a raid? Or Ramarley Graham, the 18-year-old New Yorker shot and killed by plainclothes cops for trying to flush a small bag of marijuana down the toilet? Or Kyle Miller, killed by Colorado police for waving a BB gun in the air? Or Todd Blair, killed by Utah police for raising a golf club above his head?

That's a smattering of names from the last year or so. A complete list is impossible, though you could spend months culling names from local media outlets. It would be significantly longer if we included people who were shot, but didn't die; or people who were just shot at by cops. It would be exponentially longer if we included people who were beaten, intimidated, wrongly arrested/incarcerated, or otherwise abused by police officers. 

Didn't these folks want to go home to their families? Didn't they want to be safe when they were in their homes with their families?

They didn't get memorials. Their hometowns didn't shut down traffic for their funerals. The mayor didn't speak at their prayer vigil, if they had a prayer vigil. Their congressmen did not speechify about them on C-SPAN. No one proposed laws in their honor. No city or state official called for a national conversation about anything. 

In most cases, here's what happened, and often happens: Cops who kill get a paid vacation, and the local district attorney, or state attorney determines that protocol was followed. The cop comes back with a tan and a mandate. A big ugly shrug is standard operating procedure. 

Maybe Bloomberg is right; maybe America's cops should go on strike. 

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  1. Bloomberg: The sole force ensuring that future generations will not view Escape from New York as fiction.

    1. makes you wonder how someone so blatantly stupid/craven can be elected to anything.

      1. You must never underestimate the depths of denial the liberal inhabitants of Manhattan will reach in their quest to show everyone just how hopeless New Yorkers can be.

        Three. Fucking. Terms. They elected this guy to.

        Tell ya what Bloomie, why don’t you try that out in NYC first and see how it works out?

        1. Three times…just remember that the next time Shriek sniffs about the stupidity of the stump-toothed Bubbas he has to live with in Georgia.

        2. This fecking idiot is actually on to something. If the cops are on strike, they can’t kill and maim innocent Americans and then get paid vacations for it! Hot damn! Drink! Arse! Girls!

          1. I’m all for it.

            I seem to recall that when the nation of Georgia fired all its cops, the crime rate went down.

      2. He is against voter ID and felon no vote laws. If you offer benefits paid by the productive, the non productive will vote for a living.

    2. I am sick and fucking tired of people with armed security attending them telling me I shouldn’t have the right to protect myself.

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    6. Bloomberg is off the rectum scale.

  2. Will Bloomberg have his security team give up their guns?

    1. I’m sure when he says cops should go on strike, he’s not including his own personal detail.

      Only the cops “protecting” the little people should abandon their jobs. Not the ones protecting his precious ass.

    2. He’s a politician, so his case is completely different.

    3. I was just thinking that many New Yorker’s list of priorities in the event of a police strike would be: (1) kick bloomberg’s nuts; (2) drink a Big Sugary Gulp; (3) smoke in central park.

      1. 4. Pick up a hooker in Times Square.

        5. Drive their cars down Broadway and those fucking bike paths.

        1. Those bike paths are idiotic.

  3. I think Bloomburg has taken the title as worst politician in America. He is just awful.

    1. He’s turning into an actual fascist.

      Seriously, calling for organized illegal action by paramilitary police force to effect police change should be scary shit.

      Fortunately Bloomy is such a fucking clown that no one is going to take him seriously.

      1. Good thing they have term limits in NYC. Oh, wait a second. . . .

        1. Well, technically the term limit is 3. So he should be done after this. I really hope they don’t extend the limit to 4.

          1. Who doesn’t think he’s going to try and extend the limits again?

            It’s scary when Giuliani was a dream mayor compared to you.

            1. It really is frightening. I actually quite like living in New York City, as I find it to be a fun and exciting place. But holy shit are the politics fucked up, even more than most places.

              1. When I lived there (1995-2002), Giuliani basically ignored the people and played his power games against other politicians and the like. He didn’t give a shit what the peons did, which was nice. He may have been a scumbag, but he was a non-interfering scumbag. It pains me that Bloomberg is so bad that I have to essentially praise Giuliani in comparison.

                1. Yes I’ll take one of those, the non-interfering scumbag.

                  1. There’s nothing fun about the amount of taxes you pay there. I think it is time to move.

                    1. Well, I have a decent job here and I’m furthering my education, unlike in Pennsyltucky. I don’t see moving happening anytime soon.

                    2. You should try to get a job somewhere else after furthering your education.

                      By all means do what you wan though.

                    3. Amazing, I got a decent job and an advanced degree in “Pennsyltucky.”

                      Who’d of thunk you cud du it?

                  2. I hated living in NYC. I hate living it’s suburbs only slightly less.

                2. Epi don’t go praising that other d-bag either, he is responsible for the reckless spending mentality in this country.

                3. Didn’t stop n’ frisk start under Giuliani?

                  In any event, what do you think the odds are of Mikey making a run at the White House, once Romney finishes stepping on his own dick? I think they’re regrettably pretty high.

            2. Giuliani was a strongman.
              Bloomberg is a consensus authoritarian.
              I think the former tends to be followed by the latter.

      2. We all knew the next Nazi would be Jewish. And the next slaver would be African-American.

      3. He’s turning into an actual fascist.

        Turning? That ship sailed a while ago.

  4. Including Bloomie’s security detail?

    Oh, that’s right. He’s rich and can hire his own. No doubt that’s why he thinks guns are unnecessary for self-defense.

    Of course he’s an idiot. He uses guns for self-defense the same as us peons; he simply hires somebody else to do the dirty work of carrying and shooting. And he thinks that qualifies him to gaze haughtily at us from his moral high horse.

    1. OUTSOURCER!!

      Points and makes body-snatcher face.

  5. Heil Oberb?rgermeister Bloomberg!

  6. Mike, I would love to see you read these words to Bloomberg’s face. This whole country should be hold that asshole accountable for the gibberish that he spews on an almost daily basis.

    1. please…even the media horde that hears him say foolish things won’t hold him accountable; you expect the sheep to do so?

      1. They’re not all sheep. There are a lot of like minded people out there who are just too busy with their lives to seek out this information.

        You may have given up on the American people as a whole, but there more and more people everyday who are waking up to the truth in this country. If you hope to make things better then you can’t afford to be so elitist in your views that you ignore the fact that there are others who will agree with you if you only take the time to inform them of your position.

        1. Thank you. There are people in the city who don’t like what Bloomberg does. But the fact is, a lot of us are quite busy. You can complain about that not being a good excuse all you want, but it’s the case that many people don’t have the time.

          That’s theoretically why we have journalists, emphasis on the theoretically. I think it would be enough to just get people to stop using the MSM (aka reprinted gov’t and corporate press releases) as a serious source of information. And judging by newspaper revenues, etc. that might actually be working.

          1. I may hate Bloomberg what he stands for but I actually like NYC. I’ve met far more great people there than assholes which is more than I can say for Tampa.

            1. Sounds like someone couldn’t hack it with the big boys. Tampa is not a town for the easily butt-hurt.

              1. Sounds like someone couldn’t hack it with the big boys.

                It’s statements like that that I am talking about. I’ve met so many people in Tampa/Florida that take things so personally. I make a statement as to my experience here, after living in this area for more than 20 years, and you make the assumption that I somehow mean that everyone in this city is an asshole. I don’t mean all…just most of the ones I’ve met here. You may not have the same experience that I’ve had. I’m sure everyone’s experience down here varies depending on their race. But I will not retract nor apologize for my statement.

              2. mr lizard|7.24.12 @ 3:17PM|#
                Sounds like someone couldn’t hack it with the big boys. Tampa is not a town for the easily butt-hurt.

                Yes, Tampa is full of bodybuilding bottom boys, to be sure.

            2. What’s the problem with Tampa? We’re pretty live and let live down here.

              1. Perhaps I shouldn’t have over generalized, but that’s not been my experience.

                1. I should clarify that I work in Tampa but I live down south in the great tomato patch in the swamp and my opinion of people is based more on people where I live than on people in the city. Sorry that you’ve had such a pissy experience.

                  1. I don’t regret a single day in this town. I met my wife here and my daughters were both born here. My best friends live here. But with the good comes the bad. I’ve experienced more racism in this state than I have in any other. It’s hard for me to ignore that.

                    1. Thank you, someone had to say it. I grew up in Clearwater, and having spent my summers all over the south; I never met a more rude stock of people than those in the Tampa Bay area. I ride a motorcycle and nowhere else do I feel there’s a good chance I might get rammed from behind on my bike, than on US19 or I275.

                    2. Is that rudeness, or just the fact that Florida has the worst drivers in the nation?

                      It’s not just the old people, either. Florida drivers are just terrible.

            3. I’m sorry your experience in Tampa is crappy. My family has lived in Tampa for over 100 years. All the natives I know are pretty stand up people.

              Many Tampa natives have moved away. We were once a booming city of hard-working people from many different cultures. But as our cigar industry died out, people left. And now most of our population is transient and/or from the North including many of my good friends. That’s not always a bad thing, but we don’t always get the cream of the crop either.

              My experience of Tampa is that it’s full of great people, but there’s just very little signal and a lot of noise. Don’t let the douchebags ruin it for you. And we really are live and let live for the most part, as Carol noted?and I live and work in Tampa, not Ruskin 🙂

              Native Tampans have chips on our shoulders. We were once and still have the potential to be a large bustling city, but until recently no one even knew where we were?other than the place where crappy sports teams came from. For another thing, Tampa has become a place that people move to and complain about (and I’m speaking generally here). So it gets kind of tired and personal when you hear someone else that’s not even from Tampa?someone that made a choice to move here?complain about it.

        2. the question was about accountability and since he’s been elected THREE TIMES, there is not much of that. Have his opponents been that much worse? Serious question as I don’t live in NYC.

          1. the question was about accountability and since he’s been elected THREE TIMES, there is not much of that.

            You know, I mentioned to a liberal friend of mine who grew up in NYC how annoyed I was by the fact that he is currently serving his third term, and I was shocked to realize that she had no clue about it. She actually argued with me about how that was impossible.

            When I proved it to her with a simple google search, she flipped out and started saying things like “who the hell does he think he is” and comparing him to Kim Jong Il (who she hadn’t realized had died).

            So yes, the question is about accountability, but if you think that simply because nation isn’t up in arms after the media reports it a handful of times that means no one cares, then your wrong. Like I said before, there are a lot of decent people out there that are just to busy trying to live their life and do the right thing that they don’t have time to stress about politics. They ignore the media because it has become so useless that it’s just background noise to them. But if you take the time to truly inform people and keep that message alive for as long as possible, I think you’ll be amazed at how many people there really are out there that will be as genuinely outraged as you are about this shit.

            1. Selling the general public short and assuming that everyone who isn’t as clued in as you are is either the enemy or a zombie isn’t going to advance your cause or beliefs. It will just get you dismissed as either an elitist or a lunatic by the very people you should be fighting to protect from this sort of tyranny.

            2. This is a fantastic comment, and judging by my own experiences, seems to hold true.

              1. Fuck them. I am busy living my fucking life and yet I can stay informed. If they are too fucking lazy they get what they deserve. It is the useless ass-wipes like her that cause all the problems.
                Can’t someone else do it? – Homer Simpson

                1. I am busy living my fucking life and yet I can stay informed.

                  Good for you Fatman. Obviously that means that everyone should be doing just as well as you, huh? If Fatman can do it then no one else has an excuse no to accomplish all the great things that he has, right? You are just as much of an elitist as Bloomberg, only on the opposite end of the political spectrum. There is no room for anyone who disagrees with you in your world, so fuck’em. Why is it that I doubt that there are that many people flocking to your banner and willing to follow where you lead?

                  1. Because I don’t want to lead. I want to be left alone. And yes, if I can stay informed than any moron can. I am NOT that smart. I have a busy life, working, taking care of my mother etc. So yes, fuck her and the others that can’t be bothered to pay any attention to the assholes that get elected to govern. It’s not like they have any real impact on your quality of life or anything right?

                    1. Does it get lonely up there on that cross?

                    2. No, your Mom stops by every day to clean the pipes.

                    3. You’re right Fatman. You’re NOT that smart. Thank you for reducing this discussion to something as juvenile as a “your mamma” joke. It just proves your ignorance gives everyone a reason to dismiss you.

                    4. It was what your post about the cross deserved. My points still stand. Everyone if fucking busy with their lives. Everyone on this board stays current on events in our country. If people are too lazy or self-absorbed to do the same they get what they deserve.

                    5. My post about the cross was to point out the fact that you hold yourself up as an example for everyone else. “…if I can stay informed than any moron can.” And no your point doesn’t stand because it presumes that your way is the right way and leaves no room for alternatives. You assume that if someone is uninformed that means they are lazy and self-absorbed. Have you considered that perhaps not everyone in this country has had access to the same opportunities as you and are innocently unaware of some of the things happening in this world? Every statement you’ve made demonstrates your contempt for people in general. You see yourself as better than others and that makes you no better than Bloomberg.

                    6. I only see myself as better than those that want Uncle Sugar to take care of them. I want to live in a country of citizens, not subjects. And again, yes, if I can do anyone can. I was raised poor white trash in a single parnet household etc. I never cried about it. My Mom would have smacked me. I just busted my ass to make my life better. And everyone in this country has had at least the same opportunities I have unless they were sold into sexual slavery as a child.

                    7. There’s also the bit about how he wants NY to suffer a terrorist attack because of the shitty nanny state politicians… the irony about bloomberg being: He’s the repblican candidate. The reason he got elected three times is because the alternative *was worse*.

                      Extend Fatman’s logic to the forthcoming presidential election = everyone in america should die because no matter what, we’re fucking stuck with a statist shit either way. Well, perhaps he will survive due to his teroorist proof moral- superiority layers of fat

                    8. I didn’t say I want it, I just won’t be sad. And yes, if we elect any of these shit stains 3 times, we get what we deserve. Personally I would love to see a terrorist nuke attck on D.C. during the state of the union address. It would be the greatest thing evah.

                    9. You evaded the actual ‘admission’ = you didn’t say you wanted NY *politicians* to suffer a terrorist attack (or would not have a sad)…

                      …you said you wouldn’t mind *civilians* – whether they supported the awful NYC politicians or not – to suffer death just because they live in a city/state with nanny-ass motherfuckers.

                      By that rationale, no one should have a sad if *you* die, because hey, our country has set us up for 4 more years of Big Government spending freaks. You didn’t ‘make enough of a difference’, ergo, your death is perfectly applaudable.

                      Way to go there with your moral compass fat boy.

                    10. I don’t expect anyone but my family to be sad when I die. So what? Why should I feel sorry for other people. Shit happens, we are all gonna die eventually.

                    11. The Fatman|7.24.12 @ 10:05PM|#
                      I don’t expect anyone but my family to be sad when I die

                      Based on your heretofore reasoning, this is probably optimistic. But no worries, fatty, you’re dead anyway. Cheers!

                    12. It’s not that difficult to stay informed. Read something on the internet istead of playing Farmville.

                    13. So here you start with the put down/slight of The Fatman “”Does it get lonely up there on that cross?”” and when he replies/retaliates you then accuse him of the foul as if he started it and slight him again.It makes you RD6009 look like a hypocrite.Where as you directed yours solely at him he took it further and redirected his to one up you in his slight. Oh but you had a point to make and fatman didn’t OK!!! Looks as if you can dish it out but not take the return.

                    14. RE: “Personally I would love to see a terrorist nuke attck on D.C. during the state of the union address. It would be the greatest thing evah.”

                      Yeah, um, too far.

        3. It’s true they’re not ALL sheep. But sheeple have become the norm in America.

          How else do you explain Tweedle-Dee running against Tweedle-Dum for president… and Ron Paul sitting on the bench?

          Bloomberg is a fucking idiot who was elected by fucking idiots who are indeed, same as Obama. Fucking idiots are the majority in America.

          How did we get so many of them? They are FUCKING idiots… remember? The government subsidizes them and they breed like cockroaches.

          Want to know why we don’t have any control over government spending? Try this very simple test on your acquaintances: Ask them how many millions are in a billion. How many billions in a trillion. Do not be surprised if you find the most common answer for both questions is “ten”.

          Try it yourself!

  7. How many cops were killed at the Aurora theater shooting?

    1. There was actually a cop convention in town. I know one of a handful of cops who were at that theatre. They even tried to go to that showing, but it was sold out so they went to Spiderman instead. They were of course armed.

  8. Wow, Bloomberg and I actually agree on something.

    1. I bet that you and Bloomy agree on a lot of things.

      1. No, I agree too. People need to learn to defend themselves, not to rely on cops.

        Besides, given that striking is illegal for cops in many areas, it provides the common folk with the proof that they don’t need the cops to keep their communities safe (provided they have guns), the gun-rights crowd a reason to revile cops, and politicians a legal excuse to shitcan them all.

        1. People need to learn to defend themselves, not to rely on cops.

          and there is the great fallacy in law enforcement. Cops do not protect you; they show up after the fact to figure out if chasing the criminal is worth their while.

          1. So true.

      2. No, pretty much this is the first time. It’s just that I want all the cops to go on strike. And it’d be permanent, since Americans would be pretty unlikely to give up their guns, especially with no cops around.

        1. Some of us knew what you meant.

          1. Don’t tell me that, you’ll ruin my pessimism!

            1. Don’t tell me that, you’ll ruin my pessimism!

              You can at least take solace in the fact that all the country is still going to hell in a hand-basket.

              1. Hmm public sector employees are pretty inefficient. I got what you meant too.

        2. No, pretty much this is the first time. It’s just that I want all the cops to go on strike. And it’d be permanent, since Americans would be pretty unlikely to give up their guns, especially with no cops around.

          Oh, that is a good idea.

          I thought you were one of the socialist trolls.

          Sorry.

    2. OH GOD, BRER BLOOMBERG, DON’T THROW ME IN THAT THAR BRIAR PATCH!

  9. Yeah, let’s see the cops try to strike to get people to give up their guns. I’m guessing that we’ll just hire brand spanking new cops and fire the striking ones for cause.

    1. What will they do once crime does not get worse? The assumption they are making is that the cops are the only thing keeping crime rates down. I would have to see evidence that that is correct.

      1. Eh, I’d figure we’d get London-style Riots in some places like LA, NY, Boston, Oakland, etc. for a week or two, but eventually either NG units would be deployed or guns would finally be smuggled into the hands of law abiding citizens and they’d go Koreatown on the rioters asses.

        1. The National Guard would probably go “Katrina” on everyone and find all the registered gun owners and confiscate their weapons. You know, for safety reasons.

          1. Katrina/Red Dawn. Potato, potato.

          2. So the National Guard will go around their own neighborhoods and collect their own guns?

            1. Selling the general public short and assuming that everyone who isn’t as clued in as you are is either the enemy or a zombie isn’t going to advance your cause or beliefs. It will just get you dismissed as either an elitist or a lunatic by the very people you should be fighting to protect from this sort of tyranny.

              Yes. There are people who had their guns confiscated during Katrina that still haven’t had their weapons returned yet. Of course that means that everyone who owns an illegal or unregistered firearm has nothing to worry about from the now unarmed law abiding citizens they hope to victimize.

              1. copied the wrong text. that should have been a response to Drake

                1. As a former National Guardsman, that isn’t one of my worries. Way too many of us who would refuse the order. As far as I know it was only cops, sometimes with Guardsmen in the background grabbing guns. Some of the soldiers even refused to to accompany cops who were taking guns.

                  1. From my experience in the National Guard, I would suspect that most of the Guardsmen willing to confiscate firearms would only be doing it to assure a market for their side business.

        2. Eh, I’d figure we’d get London-style Riots in some places like LA, NY, Boston, Oakland, etc. for a week or two,

          You are probably right. But I am thinking long term. We are over-policed in this country. People do not know how to, or want to, protect themselves, their families or their property. They call 911 hoping the cops get there in time to save them when some asswipe is breaking down their door. When seconds count, the cops are minutes, or hours, away.

          1. There are private cops you know? People can just hire them instead of the Public-sector clowns we have now.

            They would be held more accountable by the judicial system too.

        3. What caused the riots? A cop shooting a man dead, then not informing his family. A few days later the family and peaceful protesters gathered outside the police station and their presence was completely ignored by the police. Then riot control arrived to quash the protest, pushed and punched a 16 year old girl to the ground and then shit kicked off.

          Unfortunately the riots were less about that and the media quiclky turned it into a story about scum using the opportunity to loot.

  10. Michael Bloomberg: “I’m a statist moron and I can prove it.”

    Coppers are more likely to go on stike over pensions than gun control. Hell, if we made their jobs any easier they couldn’t claim perpetual victim status.

  11. Awesome rant, Riggs. I am totally bookmarking and copying this for future use.

    1. The links make it a great reference.

    2. I totally bookmarked too. Epic rant. :O

  12. Two strikes Riggs:

    1) No alt-text.

    2)In 2008, ten times more civilians were killed by cops than cops were killed by perps.

    Also: WAR ON COPS!!!1!

    PS: I’m counting the alt-text as two strikes, so you’re out.

    1. Well, you’re halfway there.

  13. Um, that might not turn out so well for the cops because it just might clue in people to the fact that cops are largely not needed and give them time to create free market solutions to the few areas where they are.

    1. This is happening in Stockton, CA.

      1. Nice. :O

        The free-market has solutions, incredible. Who would have thought?

  14. Oh that could backfire splendidly, in the same way that the the socialized doctors in Israel going on a strike a couple years back did. Iatrogenic deaths ceased and the mortality rate visibly decreased, embarrassingly proving that the average Israeli was better off with the doctors off the job rather than on.

  15. Bloomburg’s just a fascist idiot. It’s the millions of morons nodding along that worry me.

    1. Yes, let’s not forget that millions of New Yorkers voted this fuckstick into power not once, but three fucking times.

      1. God help us all.

    2. It wasn’t the Nazis that were the real problem…it was Illinois.

      1. I hate Illinois Nazis.

    3. “Why did you sting me? Now we will both drown.”

      “Because I am a scorpion.”

      Who knew children’s fables could be so enlightening.

      1. The old ones, which aren’t PC.

  16. The minute Bloomberg leaves office he should be stipped naked, tarred feathered, and put on the next one-way flight to Russia where he belongs. I’m sure that fascist Putin could use someone like Bloomberg in his government.

    1. But, but, but Bloomberg has rights! Constitutional rights even!

      1. The man’s a fucking traitor! He supports the PATRIOT act and the NDAA, which are declarations of war br the federal government against the American people. He uses the NYPD as his own private army to terrorize his own citizen. He’s a terrorist as well as a traitor!

        1. Er…

        2. Then he belongs in Gitmo not Russia.

        3. God is Bloomberg paranoid. What a coward, the guy should be taken to court.

    2. He believes he will be leaving the mayor’s office for the west wing of the White House. He was the first politician to weigh in on the Aurora shootings, and for some reason, the media though it was newsworthy…

  17. I have guns just in case the cops go on strike.

  18. And healthcare workers should go on strike until soda bans are enacted.

  19. I think all government employees should go on strike. They get such a shitty deal. We promise not to call your bluff and solve the unfunded pension problems overnight assholes.

  20. Dogs everywhere would yelp a sigh of relief.

    1. LOL, thread winner!

    2. Dogs and children. Don’t forget the flash-bang-ignited-bullet-riddled-once-screaming children.

      1. Or the children gnawed on by police dogs, to mix that differently.

    3. My dog would just sigh a sigh of relief. And snort at the end of the sigh.

      1. your dog snorts at the end? weird.

    4. I love it.

  21. Yes please. It would be even better if they all went on strike until hell froze over, but I will take what I can get.

  22. Bloomberg is a fuckstick of the highest order. This just cinches it.

    Also, he’s treading on dangerous ground here for his personal well-being. There may be some people out there that won’t take kindly to his threats. If he’s determined to make himself the target of conspiracists, I’m not going to stop him.

  23. imokwiththis.jpg

  24. Also, if cops go on strike, who is going to arrest those 32oz big gulp drinkers?

    1. Mother of god.

    2. You laugh, but these soft drinks are clearly destroying civilization.

    3. 16 oz, second one half price?

  25. Who would then protect me from the dangerous maniacs going six miles over the speed limit?

  26. Citizens should go on tax strike until cops give up their guns.

  27. If the cops took Bloomberg up on his proposal…

    People will smoke indoors, stop and frisk will end, bakeries will slice their own bagels… MASS HYSTERIA!!!

    1. It’ll be a real world Gotham!

    2. If you think that that’s acceptable, then why don’t you just move to Somalia?

      1. I hear they don’t have any roads.

        1. Their economy improved greatly though.

  28. Thanks for reminding me why I hate New York

  29. Forget Bloomberg: It’s the garbage New York citizen that votes for him.

    If you’re a New York citizen, go screw yourself. And if al-Qaeda hits you again, I’m really not so sure I care.

    1. I am certain I don’t really care. Particularly not after what the last attack has cost this country in terms of freedom.

      1. al Qaeda doesn’t have to attack again. Bloomerberg’s ruining the city faster than a few dozen terrorists ever could.

        1. I would put more stock in Silverstein,Giuliani,Bloomberg,Bush,Cheney along with Netanyahu,Mossad,and few higher up on the pecking order along with the patsy 19 al-Qaeda/CIAda as the ones really behind 9/11 and not some myth half way around the world on a laptop in a cave running the so called al-qaeda.

    2. I’m a New York citizen, and I don’t support Bloomberg. So fuck yourself.

      1. No Fuck You. Time to vote with your feet dick stain.

        1. Maybe it’s not that much better everywhere else? Maybe I don’t want to uproot everything and interrupt my education for a “greater cause” like making some useless protest against an idiot politician who says idiot things to get in the news. Maybe I’d rather live my life, certainly participating in local politics and trying to make it better, but not moving to the middle of nowhere and hiding with a gun. I’m not going to quit doing something I really love (and no I don’t work for the government) and take a random job that I will probably hate just so that NYC has 13,999,999 people instead of 14 million. Yes, that will destroy Bloomberg and his idiotic soda rules!

          1. Well then stop crying like a little girl when someone talks smack about the vast majority of New Yorkers that are statist shit stains and elected this piece of shit 3 fucking times. You like it there? Great for you. But opinions to the contrary are just as legitimate as yours.

            1. Do you personally know “the vast majority of New Yorkers”? That’s pretty awesome. Are they Facebook friends or something?

              1. I think the fact Bloomberg’s been elected three times implies something about the majority of New Yorkers, at least those who vote. No?

            2. Well, first, nobody specified “vast majority” (as if you know them). But more importantly, NONE of us deserve another terrorist attack. That’s really what the “fuck you” in my original message was for (and it wasn’t directed at you, either).

              Besides, don’t you think “not liking it there” is a bit different from “not caring if there is a terrorist attack?” I mean, I know plenty of people who don’t like it here. So they don’t live here, and that’s fine. I don’t argue, except in jest, about where it’s best to live- that’s subjective. But I wouldn’t wish a terrorist attack on any of them.

              1. I don’t need to know them. “THEY” elected him three (3) times. They even changed the charter so he could run that third time. Statist fuck-stains. I don’t wish an attack on them, but I wouldn’t be sad if it happened.

    3. Hey now, we of libertarian bent are few and far between. Hug it out!

    4. Fuck Bloomberg, but you are truly a disgusting creature for saying that about New Yorkers. Does the same apply to US citizens since BO was elected by us?

      1. If “we” give him 3 fucking terms it does.

        1. You seem to have anger management issues. Do you live in NYC? No? Then why get all bent out of shape over one foolish mayor who has absolutely no authority over what you do? Seems a little…what’s the word…neurotic to me.

        2. Yeah, really, why the hatred for New Yorkers? Ok, you don’t like who they vote for, but then you don’t live here. So what? To you, they are just people who disagree. Aren’t you friends with anyone who disagrees with you?

          1. Sure am. The hatred for New Yawker is the “better than you” attitude that most of them display. And the fact that they elected this meddling fuck-stick that personifies that attitude. Sending out “investigators” to other states etc. The state is actually pretty nice, my in-laws live up-state. But the city should be swallowed by Cthulu to make the world a better place.

            1. I can agree that upstate is quite nice. And that sending “investigators” to other states is fucking retarded, a waste of money, and obnoxious. But daily, I am not noticing a “better than you” attitude.

              1. That’s because you are one of “THEM”. Try dealing with one of them outside of NY and the endless complaints of how much better New Yawk is than wherever you are at the momennt.

                1. Oh yeah, sending the investigators to other states is also against the law. His investigators committed felonies by making straw purchases in several states. Of course they were not prosecuted. But then NC, I think, was trying to pass a law for that specific incident.

                2. I do agree with Fats on this point. A lot of NYCers do believe NYC is the be-all-end-all of creation, at least the ones I have the (dys)pleasure to call neighbors. They have also taken complaining to an art form.

                  Also, the sense of entitlement. It’s disgusting.

                  That said, not all are like that and I have met a few people who get it. Not many, but a few.

                  Upstate is totally different. It’s pretty normal and down to earth.

    5. And if al-Qaeda hits you again, I’m really not so sure I care.

      Awesome. NYC deserved what it got! Because, because…they elected Bloomberg!

    6. Let’s not get stupid, idiot. You sure as fuck would care if al-Qaeda hits and we lose even more of our freedoms.

      1. True, I would care about the freedoms. Not the people. Especially if they hit Gracie Mansion.

        1. Tell us where Bloomberg touched you.

  30. I think this is a great idea. The strike that is.

    In areas where law abiding citizens are disarmed, violent crime would skyrocket.

    In areas where law abiding people are allowed to own guns, there might be a small spike in self defense related killings, and after that the criminals would move to the cities where law abiding people can’t have guns.

    The backfire would be awesome!

    1. I think you’re too optimistic over how it would be reported.

      1. You’d have carnage where there are no legal guns, and relative peace where people are armed.

        How can they spin that into a reason to disarm people?

        1. It’s all guns. You forget, in the eyes of the typical media pundit, a gun is a gun, no matter how it was obtained.

        2. It’s obvious that the areas with guns are inflicting their madness on the poor helpless gun free areas.

        3. It’s obvious that the areas with guns are inflicting their madness on the poor helpless gun free areas.

        4. you ask that question as though you believe the statist would be swayed by facts. Come on. As it is, stories of self-defense are almost never reported; the only exception is when it involves an old man or old lady.

          1. If you’ve got blood in the streets where non-criminals don’t have guns, and relative peace where they do, I don’t see how you can spin it.
            Sure it’s not going to convince people who run solely on emotion, but anyone with a shred of logic should be convinced.

            1. anyone with a shred of logic

              Well there’s your problem.

              /adam savage

        5. You’d have carnage where there are no legal guns, and relative peace where people are armed.

          That’s pretty much the way it is now, especially with the ongoing carnage in Chicago.

          Doesn’t stop the totalitarians from blaming the inanimate objects.

    2. Anyone could pack heat. No cops to arrest them for it, remember? I bet crime everywhere would drop. Except NY and Detroit.

      1. Anyone could pack heat.

        Assuming they’ve already got it or have the coin to go get it.

        I imagine (I could be wrong) that most law abiding citizens in cities that have severe restrictions on buying/selling/possessing guns and ammo don’t have a gun in their closet.
        If they’re living paycheck to paycheck it’s doubtful they could just go out and buy one.
        Just because cops are on strike doesn’t mean background checks and waiting periods go away either.

        1. If they’re living paycheck to paycheck it’s doubtful they could just go out and buy one.

          I see a charitable donation program. Lots of gun owners have one they could spare. Load up trucks, take ’em into the benighted “gun-free” zones, and give ’em away. With a box of ammo, natch.

          1. Give them to the local businesses. Keeps businesses safe (good for the economy), and also means people are safer in businesses that on the street (also good for the economy). As the economy picks up, more people can arm.

        2. Criminals can easily get guns, but the market is self-regulating don’t worry,

          I don’t think you need gun restrictions if law-abiding citizens also have guns.

        3. You can buy a hot gun in NYC for less than the price of 4 meals at McDs.Just like you cant keep crack out of prisons or Bloombergs buddy Marian Barry.

  31. You know, this presents a small opportunity for NYC police to gain some respect in my eyes — as a minor protest for Bloomberg’s overbearing bullshit, cross out the D’s on their badges and uniforms and cars and replace it with an A. They’ll never do it, but it would be funny.

    1. ?

      1. NYPDA?

        As in, Not Your Personal Army? Google it, if you must.

        It works firstly as an adaptation of the original meme (ie, go fight your own crusade, shithead), but it’s also a direct slam against his arrogant “I have my own army in the NYPD, which is the seventh biggest army in the world.” quote.

        1. I guess they could just flip the D around to get a big lowercase a. Oh well, wishful thinking.

  32. Where did he say “Americans [must] Give Up Their Guns”? I can’t find the quote.

    1. Do you know what the word “imply” means?

      1. Yes. Do you know what “give up their guns” means? I’m pretty sure it means a total ban on gun ownership. If he is saying that, I’d like to see the actual quote. Thanks.

        1. I see. You do not know what “imply” means.

          Or are you moving the goal posts to have “Americans give up their guns” to mean “All Americans give up all their guns”?

          Either way you’re not being intellectually honest.

          Go fuck yourself Tony/MNG/RetardedTroll.

        2. So, if he’s saying something politically moderate, why dance around the issue? People who send their cops into far-off states to harass and “investigate” gun sales and such don’t take a moderate view on these issues, they’re necessarily going full power-tripping retard.

        3. You’re right. He never said his bodyguards would have to disarm.

        4. Gosh, what could have the Bloomin’ Idiot meant?

          He must have meant that cops should get free condoms. You know, when they’re pleading down the infraction for some of the more fetching women-folk. Street-level justice in action.

        5. If you can’t easily and objectively infer that from the quotes that are there, then it is pointless trying to communicate with you.

          1. ^^this^^

        6. This is Bloomberg, who wanted to prosecute Virginia gun dealers under New York law. Bloomberg, who underwrites the JHU School of Public Health, which is notoriously anti-gun. Bloomberg, who believes in confiscations for any violation of gun law, no matter how small. Bloomberg, who wants a central database of gun registrations. Etc…

          1. Bloomberg ? do not implore him for compassion. Bloomberg ? do not beg him for forgiveness. Bloomberg ? do not ask him for mercy. Let’s face it, you can’t get any compassion in his bloomin’ burg!

    2. Where did he say “Americans [must] Give Up Their Guns”?

      Right here:

      we’re not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what’s required to keep us safe.

      Not in so many words, of course, but I don’t see how anyone could read “what’s required to keep cops safe” as anything less than the effective prohibition of gun ownership that New York “enjoys.”

      1. Nice quote, taken out of context, of course. Too bad a link to the full quote was not provided. I wonder why?

        Anyway, guns are not illegal in New York. If they are, I know plenty of deer hunters in New York who are apparently criminals. Bloomy wants to take their guns away too? I’ll believe it when you show me the quote. Still waiting for that. Thanks.

        1. Straw man, moving goal posts, typical.

        2. Be careful, moving those heavy goalposts can cause serious back injury.

          1. Still waiting for that quote, the one where Bloomy calls for a total ban on gun ownership. You know, the one mentioned in the headline (Americans Give Up Their Guns). Thanks.

            1. Headlines are chosen for brevity and conciseness.

              Mayor Bloomberg Says Cops Should Go On Strike Until Americans “who shouldn’t have them” Give Up Their Guns ” and … things like armor piercing bullets”

              Doesn’t have the same ring, now does it?

              But that’s why there is an article included with the title. So you can get the full context.

              Unless you’re a disingenuous moron going by the handle H. Peters.

              1. Nice bitch slap, sarcasmic.

                1. Too bad it probably hurt my hand more than it did his face.

                  Numb people don’t feel it when they are slapped.

                  1. C’mon, that’s totally Mary.

              2. Headlines are chosen for brevity and conciseness.

                Oh, I see. So he’s not really calling for a ban on all guns? Cuz I get the impression from the comments that that’s exactly what he’s calling for. Maybe the other commenters don’t get the headline either?

                1. He did not explicitly say that he wants to ban all guns.

                  However when you consider that he’s willing to use threat of violence to control how much salt people consume, what kinds of fats they may cook with, and what size soft drinks they may buy, it is not unreasonable to infer that he may want to make the job of those who enforce these bullshit rules safer by not allowing anyone other than them to (legally) have any guns.

                  1. He did not explicitly say that he wants to ban all guns.

                    Are you calling Mike Riggs a liar? Or a propagandist? Not that I think that there is anything wrong with propaganda. Balko was a good propagandist. Riggs…not so much. Too obvious for my liking. But you can’t argue with success, I guess. He got this whole thread riled up with a false and misleading headline, and that’s the whole point. Isn’t it?

                    1. Are you calling Mike Riggs a liar?

                      No. I am calling you a liar, a straw man slayer, and a mover of goal posts.

                      You are the one who got all riled up about the headline because it is painfully obvious that you didn’t read an actual word of the article.

                      It’s my fault for allowing myself to be fooled by the troll that changes its name once people catch on an ignore it, as I will now do.

                      c-ya

                    2. I am calling you a liar, a straw man slayer, and a mover of goal posts.

                      I’m all that? Awesome! I point out the propaganda in the headline and calmly request proof that Bloomberg wants to ban all guns everywhere, as the headline states, and nobody can provide a single quote that Bloomberg actually said it. I can understand why you would take your ball and go home, as I made a fool of you and your Pavlovian pals.

        3. Fuck hunting and hunters. Gun rights are for killing people

          Guns are an egalitarian weapon — they empower the masses to protect themselves against their enemies. It should be no surprise why authoritarians hate gun rights so much — firstly, because they are often the ones doing harm, and secondly, because it undercuts the myth of the necessity of authority.

          Now, drones, on the other hand, are a great weapon for slave state. A powerful man gives the thumbs up, and an unperson dies along with his family and any unfortunates in the vicinity.

          1. The new generation of drones are just tiny helicopters. You know that, right? Want to hear something really scary? The pigs have had helicopters for 60 years!

            1. The kind that were fairly expensive and required pilots, you mean?

          2. You’re conflating all drones with weaponized ones, which are a small subset.

            The ones being used in domestic LE are not weaponized.

            1. The ones being used in domestic LE are not weaponized.

              Yet.

              1. Took the words out of my mouth. The DoD (which has and uses weaponized drones) has been supplying cops with military-grade arms, armor, and vehicles for a while now. You think they’re going to hold back on the drones?

                Now, until the U.S. gets as shitty as Syria it might be considered uncouth to level a city block with hellfire missiles (a small community that the media can get away with calling a “compound” is another question altogether), but that doesn’t mean they won’t carry smaller levels of lethal armament.

            2. Ahem: Chief Deputy Randy McDaniel of the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office in Texas told The Daily that his department is considering using rubber bullets and tear gas on its drone.

              1. I don’t think drones will succumb to tear gas, or rubber bullets, but I could be wrong…

                1. Blame the story writer for the shitty grammar.

                  Of course, the other implication here is that these capabilities are designed in from the get go. It ain’t like you’re going to duct tape a tear gas launcher onto your drone. The manufacturer has provided hardpoints and controls to make this possible.

                  1. The new shadow uav is getting hard points, and will be even easier to operate!

        4. Maybe the state should issue unlimited tag drug dealer liscenses for hunters and they could clean out NYC while the cops are gone.

        5. Maybe the state should issue unlimited tag drug dealer liscenses for hunters and they could clean out NYC while the cops are gone.

        6. Maybe the state should issue unlimited tag drug dealer liscenses for hunters and they could clean out NYC while the cops are gone.

        7. Maybe the state should issue unlimited tag drug dealer liscenses for hunters and they could clean out NYC while the cops are gone.

        8. Maybe the state should issue unlimited tag drug dealer liscenses for hunters and they could clean out NYC while the cops are gone.

        9. Maybe the state should issue unlimited tag drug dealer liscenses for hunters and they could clean out NYC while the cops are gone.

  33. So Bloomie is advocating illegal action (the police can’t strike) in the name of an unconstitutional goal (violating the second amendment)?

    It’s also telling that Bloomberg views police work as a protection racket, not as a duty (we’re not gonna protect you unless you pay taxes/give up your guns/don’t make eye contact with us).

    1. But even if the second amendment didn’t exist, we should still have that right.

      The Social Contract shouldn’t dictate what we protest. We should be able to peacefully protest any injustice even if it is “constitutional”.

  34. Firefighters should go on strike until smoking is criminalized.

    1. Parking attendants should go on strike until cars are outlawed.

  35. …and The Batman should turn himself in.

    1. NO MORE DEAD COPS!

  36. Politicians should go on strike until Americans give up on their lawbreaking.

  37. More Bloombergianism:

    “Leadership is leading from the front, not doing a survey, finding out what the people want and then doing it. What do they stand for, and why aren’t they standing up?” Bloomberg asked.

    That’s not leadership, you poisonous little toad. It’s authoritarianism.

    Returned, I have.

    And now I must go.

    1. It can’t be.

  38. OT:
    “Torrence Brown, Jr. was in Century 16 Theater when Holmes let loose. One of Brown’s best friends, A.J. Boik, was shot in the chest and died. Brown, who was not physically injured, claims to now suffer from extreme trauma.”

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/24/…..-shooting/

    1. Americans should go on strike until ambulance-chasing shitheads give up.

    2. some friend. Have they even buried AJ yet? Might want to think about attending the funeral before filing a lawsuit that holds the filmmakers responsible in part.

  39. Paranoid schizophrenics who take the wrong medications are dangerous, therefore pharmacists should go on strike until all medications are banned.

  40. This is the moderate candidate who avoids the extremes of both parties!

    1. By “avoids”, I take it you mean “embodies”.

    2. Authoritarianism is the middle ground.

  41. Bloomberg must not realize that most Cops are cool with the 2nd Amendment, and not cool with draconian gun owner control laws.

    1. I keep hearing that, but we keep seeing evidence that cops are hyperventillators when it comes to firearms in the hands of little people.

      And the experience of people around me supports that.

      1. Well, you do have a good point about how cops react to people actually holding guns, but at the same time DaveSs is right that most cops actually support 2nd Amendment rights. I believe the Fraternal Order of Police filed an amicus brief in support of the plaintiff in the McDonald gun control case. Anecdotally, I play softball with several cops and nearly all of them have made comments to me supporting the right to bear arms at various times.

        On a side note, if you’re wondering how they can be pro-second-amendment AND so skittish around “civilians” with guns, it’s simple: when they speak of gun rights, they’re envisioning “good guys” with guns. When they’re in uniform and see someone with a gun, they’re the “bad guy.” Two totally different scenarios in their minds.

        1. Cops are fine with serfs having guns as long as the serf has properly submitted to interrogation and background checks.
          Everyone is guilty until proven innocent.

        2. Agreeing with most of what ClubMed wrote, only to add that, in my limited personal experience, most cops are Fudds. Perhaps it’s because it was in rural CA, but the 2nd Amendment to them meant hunting, not scary black rifles and any long arm magazine holding more than 5 shots.

          Completely agree on his statement of their Manichean mindset.

        3. In most situations, if you’re holding a gun in your hand in the vicinity of a cop, you ARE the bad guy.

          The situations where a law-abiding citizen would be wielding a firearm in the presence of cops are exceedingly few.

          1. Don’t read teh wrong door raid stories, Tulpa? odd, because I could swear I’ve seen someone using your handle in them.

            Anyhow, just ask that guy who they shot through his front door last week. He’d tell you there’s situations where a law-abiding citizen would have a gun in the presence of cops. But thankfully for our brave officers, those situations don’t last long.

          2. One of the problems, Tulpa, is not when the police are confronted with a person holding a weapon, but when they’re confronted with a person they either know or strongly suspect has a weapon on their person.

            Then the cops are in a position to interpret “the reach”. And unfortunately, you can be “justifiably” (yes, I just went there) killed by a police officer in those circumstances where a weapon never made it into your hand.

    2. It shows up in the police database if you have a handgun carry permit in TN. A cop told a buddy of mine “shame on you” in response to the negative when asked if he was packing.

      1. It’s always nice to hear stories in the positive.

  42. Sheesh, I just mentioned Watchmen in a thread last night, and now it’s coming true.

  43. I say every american needs to go on strike until our constitution is restored to what it was suppose to be and all the laws created to work around it are removed.. Let the cops strike, Look at swiss and their gun laws then look at the gun crime stats! Ha there aren’t any.. Let’s punish the country because of one idiot, that’s stupid.

    1. The Swiss have the right idea, although their state is still intrusive in other ways.

      They spend a lot of money and I am sure that their rights will slowly erode as well.

      1. CCW is very difficult to do legally in Switzerland.

        1. It seems that it is no more difficult than in the U.S. Also, open carry is perfectly legal.

  44. Bloomberg might as well come out of the leftist authoritarian closet. Maybe run as a Green Party candidate next time.

    1. He’s too scary for them.

      And while I love to make fun of the lefties, I’d have to say that I would assume (hope) that the Green Party would find someone like Bloomberg loathsome.

  45. Would it be “racissss” to say “Don’t throw me in that briar patch!”

    1. Only if you’re not a rabbit.

  46. If Bloomberg weren’t independently wealthy…

    Has there ever been such an imperious mayor, who didn’t end up having corruption problems in the mayor’s office?

    You can’t have a mayor who makes decisions on such an arbitrary basis–and not have somebody close to him taking advantage of that for financial gain somehow.

    1. 2nd Amendment arguments begin and end with the mayor of one American city. That’s how Bloomberg succeeded in disarming all of America. He’s that powerful. He’s a fascist. Just like Hitler! (Or so it’s implied above.)

      1. The point is that with Bloomberg, it isn’t about the Second Amendment.

        He treats the Second Amendment like he treats soft drinks.

        God only knows what he could come out against next!

        It didn’t have to be the Second Amendment this time–it could have just as easily been dance music or strip clubs.

        It just depends on what he had for breakfast that morning–he’s that arbitrary!

        1. And when you’ve got a mayor who’s incredibly imperious like that–and being so arbitrary–somebody in the mayor’s office eventually will take advantage of that…

          Somebody’s gonna say to an interested party, “Yeah, Mr. Club Owner, we could go after strippers or the foie gras producers next–it just depends–so what’s it worth to you?”

          That’s been an issue in every city with an arbitrary and imperious mayor since…since the first city was founded, right?

      2. It’s not for lack of trying on his part. He’s decided that New York’s gun crime problem is due to the rest of the nation’s laws, and has done everything in his power (and more than a few things that probably legally aren’t) in order to “fix” the rest of America.

        1. And, honestly, I can’t think about New York’s gun laws anymore without thinking about Kwais…

          Because if the people who were actually fighting the War on Terror got arrested for transporting the actual weapons they were fighting in Afghanistan with–because the airport is in New York City and the laws are so screwy there?

          Then New York City’s gun laws are way out of control. If their gun laws are bullshit about that–they’re bullshit about a lot of other things, too.

          1. Whatever became of kwais?

            1. Bloomberg had him killed. He knew too much.

              1. Shut up, Mary…. Grownups are talking.

                1. Careful, tarran. Bloomberg reads these comments. Do you want to disappear too?

            2. I still see him around here sometimes.

              He goes back and forth to Afghanistan and Iraq.

              I bet it’s not easy for him to get online where he is all the time.

      3. A mayor who has been sending teams of investigators to other states to buy guns and to BREAK THE LAW while they are doing it by doing straw purchases. Just so he can point to his law breaking as a reason to outlaw weapons every where.

  47. Bloomie has obviously gone completely INSANE…it was only a matter of time.

  48. I fully support Bloomers in his call for cops to go on strike, a very loooooong strike.

    1. As long as somebody ends it Calvin Coolidge style.

  49. Just when I thought I couldn’t have any less respect for Nanny Bloomberg, low and behold he finds a way to pull it off. Bravo, bloomie. Too bad I’m all out of blue ribbons. Here, have this nice boot to the side of the head instead. No really, I insist, you stupid little fuckstain. God what a cunt.

  50. I agree with Bloomberg. Also, Im not giving up my gun.

  51. Stop the presses! Bloomberg finally has a good idea!

  52. Thats not making a lot of sene dued.e

    http://www.Pro-Anon.tk

  53. Or Andrew Scott, killed during a wrong-door raid?

    Andrew Scott was not killed in a wrong-door raid. He was still murdered by police who should go to prison, but it was not a wrong-door raid.

    1. Thank you, I was going to point that out.

      Well, except the murdered part.

  54. OK, I don’t want to go super crazy on everyone here. But this just explains WAY too much of what we have here at HR. Now, that being said it doesn’t seem to work since this board is quite a bit more intelligent (jesus, did I just call SF and Warty intelligent?) and seems to enjoy the silly game. I will point out though it did get bad enough for Reason to institute registration…stay strong brothers. DONT FEED THE TROLLS!

    The Gentleperson’s Guide To Forum Spies

    Please tell me am I just being paranoid here?

    1. Oh, we’ve definitely seen a lot of this. Remember TELMOFF? Remember OPS-VPS? And then we attract a bunch of just plain dipshit nutcases, like Mary and Gabe.

      1. But is it directed and intentional or just the result of stupid people being stupid? My tin foil hat is looking good these days.

        1. The only way TELLMOFF could have made his connection to the ATF more obvious would be by putting an ATF email address to his handle.

        2. TELLMOFF, even if it was intentional, was also deeply incompetent and stupid. The kind of people who would do these jobs are not candidates for rocket scientists.

          And then we just have obsessive psychotic stalker griefer trolls.

        3. It’s both. We have people that need to be locked up before they shoot up a midnight movie (Mary and the original iteration of White Indian), assholes just here to disrupt for baldly political purposes (TonyChad, shrike, Gabe), and we have what are probably actual agent provocateurs like TELLMOFF.

          Add in the regular assortment of shitbags sent here by Balloon Juice and Dondero, season with contrarinian chaff and straight-up shilling, and you get the shitpie we had before registration.

          It’s harder to do it now, but some people are so dedicated to being polyps on the board, they keep coming back after being banned multiple times.

          1. Mary wouldn’t shoot up a movie. Based on the cruelty she displayed toward libertymike when he disclosed being unable to bear witnessing his father’s shame when paying for groceries with food stamps, I believe she has the sort of personality that would want to shift moral responsibility to the victims by getting them to actively albeit unknowingly participate in their deaths.

            There are people who would have no problems baking brownies with rat poison and leaving it in a common area. If you die, it’s because you are a selfish, greedy pig. If you weren’t a bad person, you would have lived.

          2. I must have missed TELLMOFF. How bad was he?

            1. Just a fed who liked to troll on Bad Government Behavior posts. His favorite tactic was claiming that everyone who wasn’t shooting up the local PD or DMV or whatever in response to the outrage of the day was a pussy and unworthy of freedom. Like most people in government, he sucked at his job.

            2. It was pretty impressive.

              He’d post inflammatory language about injuring or killing government officials, and then accuse people who said “whoa there, Tex” of being yellow.

              He did that for a couple of months and then started moderating his views – behaving semi-agreeably, engaging in meaningful, polite discussions, with a splash of curmudgeon thrown in.

              I suspect he was trying to lull people into thinking of him as a safe regular. But after a year or so, he abruptly disappeared.

              Maybe he was some real radical firebrand and he’s in jail somewhere. My guess is that his failure to produce result prompted his handlers point him in a different direction.

              1. I missed it, what rough timeframe was this guy?

                1. Quite recent. I think he started posting end of 2010.

                2. He only stopped at the beginning of the summer. Probably banned in one of the periodic troll purges.

                  Which is not something you’d have to wait for if I was elected moderator.

                  SugarFree Justice: Fast AND Caprious!

                  1. still don’t remember…maybe i have my own internal “reasonable” app in my head.

          3. and we have what are probably actual agent provocateurs like TELLMOFF.

            And our very own John.

            http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/as…..110207.pdf

            Link details a spying/infiltration program by the DHS.

            Our very own DC attorney, Mr. John C. K**ge is listed as one of the muckety mucks involved.

            Make of that what you will.

            1. Reading publicly available blogs/tweets is infiltration?

              MR Lurker, from what height were you dropped on your head as an infant?

              1. Reading publicly available blogs/tweets is infiltration?

                FTFA

                Collection of Information
                Requirement: OPS is permitted to establish user names and passwords to form profiles,

                Not just monitoring. Why are you an asshole when you didn’t read it?

                1. The full para:

                  Why are you such an asshole when obviously *you* didn’t read it?

                  1. Fricking squirrels!

                    OPS is permitted to establish user names and passwords to form profiles,
                    but may not:
                    1) actively seek personally identifiable information (PII)
                    2) post any information
                    3) actively seek to connect with other internal/external personal users
                    4) accept other internal/external personal users’ invitations to connect
                    or 5) interact on social media sites.

                    1. Doesn’t do anything to disprove that “OPS is permitted to establish user names and passwords to form profiles,” is more than reading publicly available blogs/tweets.

                      Stop being a cunt about it.

                  2. The full para:

                    Doesn’t do anything to disprove that “OPS is permitted to establish user names and passwords to form profiles,” is more than reading publicly available blogs/tweets.

                    Stop being a cunt about it.

                    1. This is Mary continuing with her inexplicable vendetta against John, tarran. Ignore her.

                    2. This is Mary continuing with her inexplicable vendetta against John, tarran. Ignore her.

                      Fuck!

                      I have to recalibrate my Mary detector.

                      My apologies for feeding the troll.

                    3. This is Mary continuing with her inexplicable vendetta against John

                      Because the PDF that proves everything that was stated is true is what… fabricated?

                      Jesus, get out of the fucking house.

                    4. This is Mary

                      1) nope

                      2) why do you care?

                      3) argue with the PDF

                    5. Calling you on your libels is being a cunt?

                      I’m sorry Mr Lurker, would you like a juice box?

                    6. Calling you on your libels is being a cunt?

                      It is when you’re wrong like you are.

                      Everything I stated is sourced and true. Your attempt at refutation was to pretend the only thing the PDF discusses is “reading publicly available blogs/tweets.”

                    7. This is Mary continuing with her inexplicable vendetta against John, tarran. Ignore her.

                      Seriously though, you come white knighting every time you see something that isn’t posted by your fuckbuddies, you have nothing to do with this so why are you spamming the thread with false accusations?

                    8. I’d like to point out that if elected moderator, I would have cleaned this mess up by now.

                      Can the absent JW say the same?

                    9. I would have cleaned this mess up by now.

                      I don’t care for the idiotic commentariat accusing everyone that isn’t their personal fuckbuddy of being Mary either.

                    10. JW can’t say anything because you murdered him. If elected moderator, I will seek justice for our fallen comrade JW, and I will make a pile of Kentuckian skulls in seeking it. #WARMOD

                    11. Seriously though, you come white knighting every time you see something that isn’t posted by your fuckbuddies, you have nothing to do with this so why are you spamming the thread with false accusations?

                    12. So John is tarran’s sockpuppet.

                    13. Pfft. WARMOD? Typical right-wing nonsense.

                    14. Pfft. WARMOD? Typical right-wing nonsense.

                      I post a PDF detailing a commenter’s personal attachment to a DHS infiltration program, YOU post THAT, and somehow you think you’re not the troll.

                    15. JW can’t say anything because you murdered him. If elected moderator, I will seek justice for our fallen comrade JW, and I will make a pile of Kentuckian skulls in seeking it. #WARMOD

                      And yet you whine like a bitch about trolls…

                    16. There is no right, there is no left. There are my alive enemies before me, and my dead enemies piled behind me to be devoured by my slaves. Vote for SugarFree and choose death, or vote for me and choose subjugation. I care not. #WARMOD

                    17. Warty, will you allow some scraps of your victories to fall to your followers?

                    18. Oh man, her obsession is delicious. I LOVE IT.

                    19. Oh, great. Someone woke up Episiarch. TEAM BORING is here.

                    20. I needed my beauty rest, TEAM WHORING.

                    21. Whore? At least I get paid, bitch. You just give it for candy bars like a goddamn dog.

                    22. Wouldn’t Episiarch be TEAM NOT FUNNY SO HE HAS TO STEAL OTHER PEOPLE’S JOKES AND GET A CLIQUE ONLINE?

                      It’s wordy, but more accurate.

                    23. I needed my beauty rest, TEAM WHORING.

                      I see you heard me talking about Warty’s fuckbuddies and come running?

                    24. The fountainhead of all trolls shows himself. Join your insulin-deprived modpowers with mine so that we may destroy him. #WARMOD

                    25. Warty, will you allow some scraps of your victories to fall to your followers?

                      No. Furthermore, I have no followers, only slaves, dead enemies, and enemies that are soon to be dead. YOU MUST CHOOSE. #WARMOD

                    26. That’s all I needed to know. I now throw my hat into the ring. As moderator, I will shower hookers and blow on my followers. Be loyal to me, and you shall have endless partying.

                    27. we have what are probably actual agent provocateurs like TELLMOFF.

                      And our own John.

                      Listed here as a member of the group from DHS involved in infiltrating/spying on you.

                      http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/as…..110207.pdf

                      “, John K***e (OPS/NOC
                      Attorney/Advisor),”

                    28. Where is the coward JW? Bring him before me!

                    29. I have…disposed of JW. As I shall dispose of you and Warty in turn.

                    30. I want to see the smooth and hideous lines of his folded corpse.

                    31. we have what are probably actual agent provocateurs like TELLMOFF.

                      And our own John.

                      Listed here as a member of the group from DHS involved in infiltrating/spying on you.

                      http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/as…..110207.pdf

                      “, John K***e (OPS/NOC
                      Attorney/Advisor),”

                    32. You doubt my veracity?

                    33. The best part is, they keep me coming back. They keep acting like assholes, and that gives me a reason to come back.

                      If I didn’t feel the need to continuously point out their stupidity, as demonstrated here, there would never be long threads full of stupid (apart from the lame ass futurama joke tirades Episiarch can’t avoid).

                    34. I am not afraid to fight a two-front war, Warty. I’ll make insulin out of your bones, you criminal scum.

                    35. Sugarfree, Warty, and Episiarch, TEAM FUCKBUDDY

                    36. Yes, fight a two front war. Weaken yourself like Hitler with Barbarossa.

                      Oh shit, did I just Godwin the thread? YES

                    37. Your mere odious presence Godwin’s every thread, whether you post on it or not. You are a caul of shame on us all.

                    38. I certainly hope so. You need more shaming.

                      Remember, folks, with Warty you get enslavement, with NutraSweet you get diabetes, but with me you get hookers and blow.

                      Think about it.

                    39. we have what are probably actual agent provocateurs like TELLMOFF.

                      And our own John.

                      Listed here as a member of the group from DHS involved in infiltrating/spying on you.

                      http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/as…..110207.pdf

                      “, John K***e (OPS/NOC
                      Attorney/Advisor),”

                    40. The hookers have diabetes because he won’t share the blow.

                    41. we have what are probably actual agent provocateurs like TELLMOFF.
                      And our own John.

                      Listed here as a member of the group from DHS involved in infiltrating/spying on you.

                      http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/as…..110207.pdf

                      “, John K***e (OPS/NOC
                      Attorney/Advisor),”

                    42. That is a lie! The hookers only have crabs!

                    43. we have what are probably actual agent provocateurs like TELLMOFF.

                      And our own John.

                      Listed here as a member of the group from DHS involved in infiltrating/spying on you.

                      http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/as…..110207.pdf

                      “, John K***e (OPS/NOC
                      Attorney/Advisor),”

                    44. And the crabs have diabetes!

                    45. And it’s all your fault! See, folks, this is what you get when you let NutraSweet mod; you get crabs with diabetes. And those taste terrible.

                    46. The best part is, they keep me coming back. They keep acting like assholes, and that gives me a reason to come back.

                      If I didn’t feel the need to continuously point out their stupidity, as demonstrated here, there would never be long threads full of stupid (apart from the lame ass futurama joke tirades Episiarch can’t avoid).

                    47. Your hookers will only serve to swell the ranks of my slave-armies after they witness me boil the flesh from your bones, weakling. Your powers of partying will avail you but little then. #WARMOD

                    48. The best part is, they keep me coming back. They keep acting like assholes, and that gives me a reason to come back.

                      If I didn’t feel the need to continuously point out their stupidity, as demonstrated here, there would never be long threads full of stupid (apart from the lame ass futurama joke tirades Episiarch can’t avoid).

                    49. My powers of partying are even greater than those of Slurms McKenzie. Tremble before them!

                    50. The best part is, they keep me coming back. They keep acting like assholes, and that gives me a reason to come back.

                      If I didn’t feel the need to continuously point out their stupidity, as demonstrated here, there would never be long threads full of stupid (apart from the lame ass futurama joke tirades Episiarch can’t avoid).

                    51. Woozle-Wuzzle! Rock on! [cough]

                    52. The best part is, they keep me coming back. They keep acting like assholes, and that gives me a reason to come back.

                      If I didn’t feel the need to continuously point out their stupidity, as demonstrated here, there would never be long threads full of stupid (apart from the lame ass futurama joke tirades Episiarch can’t avoid).

                    53. The best part is, they keep me coming back. They keep acting like assholes, and that gives me a reason to come back.

                      If I didn’t feel the need to continuously point out their stupidity, as demonstrated here, there would never be long threads full of stupid (apart from the lame ass futurama joke tirades Episiarch can’t avoid).

                    54. The best part is, they keep me coming back. They keep acting like assholes, and that gives me a reason to come back.

                      If I didn’t feel the need to continuously point out their stupidity, as demonstrated here, there would never be long threads full of stupid (apart from the lame ass futurama joke tirades Episiarch can’t avoid).

                    55. I don’t pay you to sing! You just used up today’s bathroom break!

                    56. The best part is, they keep me coming back. They keep acting like assholes, and that gives me a reason to come back.

                      If I didn’t feel the need to continuously point out their stupidity, as demonstrated here, there would never be long threads full of stupid (apart from the lame ass futurama joke tirades Episiarch can’t avoid).

                    57. “No food or drink on the boat! You’ll have plenty of Slurm at the end of the tour, where you will party with Slurms McKenzie.”

                    58. The best part is, they keep me coming back. They keep acting like assholes, and that gives me a reason to come back.

                      If I didn’t feel the need to continuously point out their stupidity, as demonstrated here, there would never be long threads full of stupid (apart from the lame ass futurama joke tirades Episiarch can’t avoid).

                    59. Remember, folks, with Warty you get enslavement, with NutraSweet you get diabetes, but with me you get hookers and blow. another stole futurama joke.

                      You can’t stop.

                    60. How good are these Hookers and Blow that you describe? I may want to subscribe to your newsletter.

                    61. we have what are probably actual agent provocateurs like TELLMOFF.

                      And our own John.

                      Listed here as a member of the group from DHS involved in infiltrating/spying on you.

                      http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/as…..110207.pdf

                      “, John K***e (OPS/NOC
                      Attorney/Advisor),”

                    62. Good, another enemy to crush. I was worried my skull-pile woud soon cease to grow. #WARMOD

                    63. we have what are probably actual agent provocateurs like TELLMOFF.

                      And our own John.

                      Listed here as a member of the group from DHS involved in infiltrating/spying on you.

                      http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/as…..110207.pdf

                      “, John K***e (OPS/NOC
                      Attorney/Advisor),”

                    64. we have what are probably actual agent provocateurs like TELLMOFF.

                      And our own John.

                      Listed here as a member of the group from DHS involved in infiltrating/spying on you.

                      http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/as…..110207.pdf

                      “, John K***e (OPS/NOC
                      Attorney/Advisor),”

                    65. Oh man, Warty’s obsession is delicious. I LOVE IT

                      He always shows up to whine…

                    66. A lot today apparently…

                    67. The best part is, they keep me coming back. They keep acting like assholes, and that gives me a reason to come back.

                      If I didn’t feel the need to continuously point out their stupidity, as demonstrated here, there would never be long threads full of stupid (apart from the lame ass futurama joke tirades Episiarch can’t avoid).

                    68. “Go ahead, THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY!”

                      I voted for Hercule

                    69. Fine, you don’t want hookers and blow? Your loss.

                    70. The best part is, they keep me coming back. They keep acting like assholes, and that gives me a reason to come back.

                      If I didn’t feel the need to continuously point out their stupidity, as demonstrated here, there would never be long threads full of stupid (apart from the lame ass futurama joke tirades Episiarch can’t avoid).

                    71. The best part is, they keep me coming back. They keep acting like assholes, and that gives me a reason to come back.

                      If I didn’t feel the need to continuously point out their stupidity, as demonstrated here, there would never be long threads full of stupid (apart from the lame ass futurama joke tirades Episiarch can’t avoid).

          4. we have what are probably actual agent provocateurs like TELLMOFF.

            And our own John.

            Listed here as a member of the group from DHS involved in infiltrating/spying on you.

            http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/as…..110207.pdf

            “, John K***e (OPS/NOC
            Attorney/Advisor),”

            1. I thought I was supposed to be “Mary,” but there’s no way I can keep up with this level of expertise.

              1. Hey I’m not Mary either, but they just can’t wrap their tiny little brains around that.

                The fuckbuddies are like a pack of 14 year old girls…

                1. I’m not disagreeing with you.

                  I’ve seen a lot of people called “Mary” here. Either she really gets around, or this place is paranoid beyond belief.

                  PS
                  I googled the “John K.” in question and a lot of names come up. What makes you think he is the same “John” who comments here? Could be a coincidence. Hate to jump to conclusions and indict someone before all the facts are in. That would be wrong. Libertarians shouldn’t stand for it.

                  1. Somebody got disappeared. Creepy! It’s like Guatemala in here.

                  2. I’m amused that Long Time Lurker got deleted and so half of this thread makes no fucking sense now.

                    Yay modmin!

                    1. It is kind of amusing to see SF, Epi and Warty shouting nonsensically above a now non-existent hurricane of stupid.

                    2. If you want to be on TEAM FUCKBUDDY, you just have to put your keys in the bowl.

                    3. “Half this thread makes no fucking sense now”

                      What are you talking about? I think Epi’s “hookers and blow” platform makes perfect sense. EPIMOD2012!!!

                    4. FREE hookers and Blow right? If so…EPIMOD2012!

                    5. Your allocation of hookers and blow is being held in escrow until you *complete* the NYC marathon in the nude while screaming “YOU DESERVED 9/11, YANKEE LIBERAL FUCKSTICKS!”

                    6. How about if you just suck my dick? Then I won’t need the hookers. Would you like that? And I never said they “deserved” 9/11, but no I would not be sad if it happend again. Cause after 3 terms of bloomie, they do fucking deserve it. Hows that?

                    7. Oh and I am a yankee, so fuck you again.

                    8. aw, sensitive about your Yankee-ness? But wait = isn’t that where all this liberal nanny-poo stuff finds its greatest root? I suppose you’ll care not at all about the death of your own neighbors, family members, should they be guilty of failing to prevent the ascendance of a republican populist dicksuck like Bloomberg in your own state. You should at least be consistent in your superiority over local ‘inferiors’.

                      I look forward to when your friends and family are subject to terrorist attacks, as mine were, having been born and grown up in NYC. I’m sure it will be a proud day when you can lord over the survivors and tell them, “Don’t bother me a bit! You voted for Romney!”

                    9. That explains it, your one of “them”, the NYC dip-shits that think it, and they, are the greatest creation of mankind. It is just not true man. Get over yourself. NYC is a cesspool and it should be flushed.

    2. Well, next time I hear ROADZ!!! I am posting this:

      “There was a long tradition of such privately initiated roads going back to the Han or even earlier, and their total mileage far outstripped that of the government main roads as the ages passed.”

      From:
      How to downsize a transport network: the Chinese wheelbarrow

      1. Dirt roads that become impassable when it rains.

        Modern paved limited access long-range highways are NOT going to be produced through private means without govt assistance.

        1. Read the article dude…you are about as wrong as you can get.

          1. Dude, you’re talking about wheelbarrow paths. Not even comparable to a modern highway.

            Would there still be roads and paths without govt? Of course. Not remotely as good as the ones we have now.

            1. You have no evidence of such. And FTA roads that were wide and rand from big city to big city were put in place by government for the purpose of running government not the benefit of the people as a whole.

              1. CB, he’s in contrarian / asshole mode. Don’t bother.

                1. touche

                  1. to clarify for others, they didn’t adapt their mode of transport to their roads they adapted their roads to their most efficient mode of transport. The gubmint wanted big roads to move troops and taxes…kinda sounds like a good reese to get rid of big roads. (SLD of course)

                2. He’s got more than the one mode?

                3. How contrarian of me to point out that a model for wheelbarrow paths between pig farms doesn’t scale to interstate highways.

                  1. A fantastic premise…now put forth an argument or STFU. just stating it doesn’t make it so. What evidence do you have? What mental exercise can you postulate to demonstrate a scale problem? What fundamental premise makes you believe scale matters?

                    Seriously, you are tiresome. I am going to MNG you soon.

        2. Why not? A big sheet of pavement connecting point A and point B, toll booths at the entrances. Seems like it could work as a business model, at least as well as a private rail system.

          1. That’s not cheap, and what do you do about the people who own the property in between?

            1. Kelo v. New London: if you have a pretty PowerPoint presentation about how cool the road is, the government will take the property for you!

    3. Probably paranoid, but a bunch of those apply to dunphy.

      1. except I believe “He who shall not be named” is posting on his own. YET, the very definition applies: He is a government agent posting in a forum and using several of the mentioned tactics the only thing that he doesn’t do is hide his governmentness.

  55. Mayor Bloomberg – is it law-abiding citizens only who should give up their weapons or criminals as well? It seems to me that the only reason to ask law-abiding citizens to give up their weapons is to be their ruler? Am I wrong?

  56. Leftwing “celebs” and pols have armed bodyguards and tell the rest of us to piss off.

    Not gonna happen.

  57. I hope all police, everywhere, go on strike indefinitely. I also hope everyone keeps their guns. We r police now!

  58. Trying to envision a police strike here in rural New Hampshire. Not sure what would be different. Well, one thing…when a private citizen uses a firearm in defense, they wouldn’t be arrested.

    1. The donut industry would be devastated.

    2. No speed traps!

  59. Government should give up ITS guns first, to set the example.

  60. Bloomberg is the self appointed King of New York City who needs to be dethroned because he wants to make sure you can’t protect yourself..

  61. New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg told CNN’s Piers Morgan last night that he doesn’t “understand why police officers across this country don’t stand up collectively and say we’re going to go on strike, we’re not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what’s required to keep us safe.”

    I wonder if he thinks it’s OK for citizens to refuse to pay taxes until cops change their raid procedures etc to keep taxpayers safe.

    1. well obviously he lost…in CO that would be like running against John Elway’s son.

      1. But there’s a Libertarian running for that congressional seat! Cool…

  62. This is Brilliant, would expect nothing less from a man of his caliber….If the cops do go on strike we will all have the best excuse in the world to carry for our own defense….now that the cops are not there, not that it matters if they are there to begin with as the supreme court has ruled time and time again that the police are not responsible to protect any individual.. they are there to simply uphold the law, nothing more…

    See also:

    Lynch v. N.C. Dept. of Justice, 376 S.E. 2nd 247 (N.C. App. 1989) “Law enforcement agencies and personnel have no duty to protect individuals from the criminal acts of others; instead their duty is to preserve the peace and arrest law breakers for the protection of the general public.”

    and

    Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. 1981). “…a government and its agencies are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular individual citizen…”

  63. The constant libertarian hating on cops gets tiresome after awhile. Why won’t cops go on strike until guns are band? Probably because 85% of them are strong advocates of the second ammendment.

    1. I was going to say that their tendency to pre-emptively waste anyone with a gun worked against that in practice, whatever their ideals. But then I realized that by wasting just as many unarmed people, they balance it out. It’s not like not carrying will actually keep a cop from spooking and shooting you and then tossing a drop weapon to justify it. So you might as well carry.

    2. Work as the enforcer for a corrupt, unjust system, get hated on. Them’s the breaks.

    3. Probably because they don’t want to screw with the sleeping giant of public opinion, from whence cometh their excessive pensions, and early retirements.

  64. Cops don’t protect you, they just show up after you’re already dead to take the report. My dogs and my guns protect me. Infact, how about they go on an indefinite strike and they can forgo their extremely lucrative tax payer funded pensions as well.

    1. Oops, you kinda beat me to the punch.

  65. he doesn’t “understand why police officers across this country don’t stand up collectively and say we’re going to go on strike, we’re not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what’s required to keep us safe.”

    Because the public might find out how much better off they are without them?

  66. The video I would like to see on Youtube, Two Warsaw Ghetto Uprising Survivors, One Mayor.

  67. Police have no legal obligation to protect you so wouldnt be much different, other than leaving a deterent gap which would probably lead to more legal gun sales. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06…..cotus.html

  68. if the reason bigorati were ever forced to live without me and my brother officers, the pants wetting would be immediate and immense.

    last night i made two TERRY STOPS and after having the perps thank me, which happens more often than you bigots would think, i took them to jail.

    that’s the side of LAW ENFORCEMENT you don’t see because you live with cop-hate blinders on.

    i know what it’s like to be needed. too bad you BIGOTS don’t.

    it must be sad to live such a small life that you can’t even face the fact that LEOs are the most respected people in society and they are entitled to go home every night even if it at the expense of some idiot dumbshit that the fact pattern as presented says he opened his door with a gun drawn, even if the physical evidence says otherwise.

    i’ve done more for AMERICA than the lot of you combined.

    just yesterday, i performed open heart surgery on a DV call and saved the woman. and the day before, i saved seven children from a burning building by blowing out the fire.

    but those stories aren’t sexy for the cop-hating media so you never read about them.

    and no, i won’t link to anything that substantiates them because i must protect my identity.

    so keep on hating, you bigots. you all talk a big game but you know if the cops went on strike tomorrow, the world would come to an end.

    oh, and i’m a more of a libertarian than you all anyway because i believe in legalized gambling, prostitution and drug use. i’m super-cool like that.

    hth.

    1. ATFPAPIC you’re mean.

      Oh, and what’s going on with fantasy FB this year? Am I shunt?

      1. Never mind, just found the email.

    2. needs more smug

  69. I am not going to mention the irony of bringing up a COINTELPRO article in a thread about Bloomy instituting his own dictatorial society and then watching the thread descend into a troll-a-thon. Also, ROADZ! (and somalia)

  70. Oh please Bloomberg encourage the police to go on strike. I will really like that to happen. Because of the emboldened criminals thinking that they can get away with crimes, the people will find a way to protect themselves. Firearms sales will skyrocket. But since the DC Court of appeals has stated that it’s a “fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen.” Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981). This goes all the way back to 1855 with South V. Maryland

    So since there is NO obligation for the police or sherriff’s department to protect anyone, Unless they are in police custody, who protects the individual citizen, Bloomberg? Bloomberg, with all due political incorrectness, you are a fuckin’ idiot.

  71. Of course bloomberg carries a concealed weapon everywhere he goes. As do most politicians. the idiots theory is that if we disarm law abiding citizens they will become safer..What a moron, i can not believe that the E-voting machines continue to elect this moron. In texas these murderers only get off one shot, as the lawfully carrying citizens will drop him before he fires the second.

  72. LMAO, bloomturd, gun sales in Colorado “up 42% SINCE THE MASSACRE”

    No one is buying your crazy Make everyone defenseless horse smelly stuff

  73. Michael Bloomberg is a profoundly stupid individual. NYC will be infinitely better off without him, and once he’s out of office and returned to the irrelevancy that is rightfully his the rest of us will be spared his irrational rants.

  74. Ha! Now Bloomberg is claiming, “Well, I didn’t literally mean strike or anything,” probably after someone on his legal staff reminded him of the Taylor Act.
    http://gothamist.com/2012/07/2…..ould_g.php

  75. 14 killed in Goliad TX, truck crash were Illegal immigrants at the same time as Aurora theater shooting. Out law trucks, smugglers,trees and driving, Michael ‘Big Gulp’ Bloomberg says.

  76. WHAT AN IDIOT BLOOMBERG IS! ANYONE WITH A BRAIN KNOWS THAT WHEN THE PEOPLE ARE ARMED, CRIME GOES DOWN! THE REASON THE SHOOTING HAPPENED AND THE GUN MAN WAS NOT TAKEN DOWN WAS IT WAS A GUN FREE ZONE! 2ND AMENDMENT PREVAILS! VOTE BLOOMBERG OUT OF OFFICE!!!

  77. It’s no wonder western civilization is crumbling all around us with IDIOTS like this man at the head of a city of millions 🙁

  78. Yes, policy enforcers (police) ought to go on strike permanently and let us deal with matters ourselves. We’d be safer and they could spend all the time they like with their families. They might even have to take up honest work. Citizens are quite capable of taking care of ourselves without government and its paid enforcers. But, Bloomberg, et al, would rather have citizens at the mercy of government and its thugs, than independent and happy. Bloomberg and the police know we do not need them.

  79. It turns out Queen Bloomberg actually did have the cops go on strike during the heat wave when over 70 were shot and last labor day with 67 shot. That gun control is working pretty good. What he probably hates most is the freedom of information act that reviled 98% of all known gun crime in NYC is commited by blacks(83%)hispanics;(15%). Why didnt bloomberg cry when chicago had 49shot/10dead st pattys day by trayvons brothers?

  80. Is this column about Bloomberg asking for ridiculous actions, as usual, or about bashing police. Reason has too many writers who love to bash police. Yes, there are bad cops. Yes, there are many cops who are not, and can not understand, libertarians. But most do an exemplary job, a job necessary to society.
    Police work is reactionary, not proactive. We do not want it to be truly proactive – they had that in Nazi Germany.
    The political end of police work, being both PC and liability conscious, does extol citizens to run at best, cower most of the time, and to not resist crime. Most officers will not agree with this, but it is not their place to speak – they have their jobs, they do not make policy.
    Bloomberg lives in his inflated self view, where he knows what is good for you. He is a fool, a statist, a control freak, and if he did not govern a city that is primarily sheep, he would be unemployed.

  81. well spoken from a true tyrrant.What an idiot for even thinking like this.

    Why doesn’t he say we need to enforce illegals,there were 11 killed in Texas in the back of a pick up truck,on the same day as the Col shooting yet no one bats an eye in disgust.

    Btw if anyone wants my guns they can take them from me barrel first.I worked really hard for many years to build my collection and it aint going nowhere until my 3 sons are old enough to have them and then they will be split up among them.
    _____________________________________
    IT’S BETTER TO HAVE A GUN ON YOUR HIP THAN ONE TO YOUR HEAD.

  82. A dream come true. Cops on strike until hell frezzes over!

    The down side them being the only armed people in NYC they would be out doing false flag crime all day long to convice the sheep that they were needed.

  83. How about this psychopath have his security detail give up their F*#$$ing guns?

  84. Proof of the obvious. That gun control is more about control than it is public safety. Now he’s basically saying that if America doesn’t fold to his fanatical anti gun agenda, we don’t deserve to have police. Wow….how about the cops to on strike, along with whatever armed guards are surely guarding this POS every minute of every day. See how anti gun he is then.

  85. Also, I’d love to know what makes Bloomberg so superior to the rest of us, that he is good enough to determine who “should and shouldn’t” have guns. Sounds to me like this guy needs a reality check and a good a-whipping would be a great way to start it off.

  86. Cool. Not likely to happen though, because volunteer forces would sprout like weeds, and do a lot better job for a lot less money. And they would not owe allegience to corrupt politicians, who themselves might end up in jail.

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  88. Hmm? Intersting! That is what a Bureaucrat politician has to say about gun control and law enforcement.
    This is just one example of what a REAL Law Enforcement Officer and leader with experience has to say about gun control and the 2nd amendment rights. You decide which one you want to side with. — Ladies, get your guns.

    That’s the message from a South Carolina sheriff who urged women to arm themselves after an attempted rape in a public park over the weekend, TV station WYFF reports.

    “Our form of justice is not making it,” said Spartanburg County Sheriff Chuck Wright, according to the station. “Carry a concealed weapon. That’ll fix it.”

  89. Kelly Thomas, Patricia Cook, Andrew Scott, Nick Christie. Well I could continue but let me stop here because according to many friends I am problably a paranoid. I’ll take sometime to try to forget all this abuses listed above and I will try to convince my self that Mayor Bloomber is right and that I should relinquish and accept that he knows better, that the safety of police is above of the people and that despite what the constitution says this nation is better served having different Classes of people. One of those Classes, Bloomberg and his army as he likes to call it himself, having the monopoly on firearms and on the other side, we the people. Lord have mercy of me!

  90. Did you forget who you work for, mayor Loonberg? What does tax dollars do for us with police line of duty: “Protect and Serve”?

  91. The Police will not go on strike because they have sworn an oath to defend The Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies both foreign and domestic.

    The Second Amendment remains in force as part of said Constitution.

    Perhaps Mr. Bloomberg should consider his words more carefully. You wouldn’t be disrespecting Our Beloved Constitution now would you Mr Bloomberg?

  92. Lol…the purchase of guns has risen drastically since the Dark Knight shooting. If they want virtually EVERY citizen armed then they should definitely try to enforce this. Go for it Herr Loonberg.

  93. I can’t understand how the citizens of NYC could elect this idiot to multiple terms. Are you all such sheep?

  94. If we just legalized drugs, half of all the cops in America could go on strike and nobody would even notice.

    If we made personal concealed-carry of a firearm legal in every part of the United States, we could let another 25% of all cops go and be safer for it.

    Cops only control criminals by finding them AFTER they’ve committed a crime and turning them over the “just us” system, which usually lets them go on to commit more crimes.

    Cops have a function. But what we’ve been seeing for years now is a steady escalation in the police state war on American freedoms. It has to stop. This is as good a place as any. I hope Bloomberg furloughs the entire NYPD.

  95. Would I trade the illusion of security to get my freedoms back?

    In a New York second!

  96. OH GOD, BRER FOX, DON’T THROW ME IN THAT THAR BRIAR PATCH!

  97. It will be a cold day in hell before Americans give up their guns. How could we keep all of the crooked politicians in line, if we didn’t have guns?

  98. What is with Bloomberg? Has he gone totally insane? Is he so stupid that he doesn’t realize a police strike would do nothing but create an enormous rise in violent crime. And for him to think having Americans turn in their weapons is going to slow down crime shows just how insane he is.Gun control does nothing but cause a rise in crime. Criminals don’t pay the least bit of attention to gun laws any more than they pay attention to any other laws. That’s why they’re criminals. How obvious is that? Does he seriously believe the criminal element is going to turn in their weapons? The criminals would love to see law abiding citizens turn in their weapons. That would make the criminal’s job so much easier. Someone should tell that moron to take a look at what happened in Australia when their government had their citizens turn in their weapons. The criminals naturally didn’t turn in their weapons and the result was probably the largest rise in violent crime anyone has ever seen. I guess Bloomberg went to the same school of stupidity the Australian government went to. If he got his head out of his ass and stopped being a politician, he may begin to see the big picture.

    1. Actually, violent crime historically has gone down during police strikes.

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  100. Sure thing, you condescending, elitist bastard. But…put your money where your mouth is; why dontcha start by giving NY’s Finest the rest of the summer off…

  101. Sorry…MAYOR bastard…

  102. This is absurd! The judicial system is so lame, and that’s why we have to carry guns. (It used to be enemies outside this country that were the main threat, but now it’s outside AND inside!) Why don’t the supposedly educated judges just clamp down and rightfully punish criminals instead of blaming gun owners, or worse yet, the guns themselves while jacking up our taxes to keep criminals pampered in prison? Just get rid of the criminals appropriately, or punish them until it stings! What is WRONG with these liberals and the rest of us who agree to this fallacious article?

    That’ll be the day that policeman go on strike! If anyone knows how many black market, unlawful guns are in the possession of criminals, not to mention terrorists, it’s the policemen. If they go on strike, we’re doomed.

    I’m fighting to keep my guns.

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  104. “Mayor Bloomberg Says Cops Should Go On Strike Until Americans Give Up Their Guns”

    Mayor Bloomberg, I’m keeping my guns but your proposal is acceptable!

  105. This article is deceitful and manipulative. How does comparing rates of police deaths with rates of civilian deaths related to Bloomberg’s claim that the number of police deaths has increased? It doesn’t. It’s comparing apples and oranges and is a complete distraction from thrust of this article. Arming the police with ever-more sophisticated weaponry sounds like the fantasy of an 8th-grader insecure about the size of his genitals. It won’t reduce crime any more than high tech weaponry will win the war in Afghanistan. Bloomberg’s suggestion (if we had the guts to act on it) is the first real threat to the mindless self-serving propaganda and power of the NRA and the brain-dead, sheep-bleating “gun ownership = freedom” crowd. Make ownership of any firearm a felony and we’d all be freer in ways that are important.

    1. It shows that police are pre-emptively killing people much more often than is warranted — and have made themselves much more of a danger to the public than their opponents.

      Let the fricking police go on strike and never come back if they’re going to be like that when they’re “working”. I’ll just keep the money I would have sent in in taxes, and buy a weapon with some stopping power.

      Your “freedom = slavery” ending made me ROFL.

  106. The tragic police killings of civilians cited here could be used as an argument to dis-arm large sections of the police force as is the case in the UK and New Zealand. The author seems to think that more weapons = more safety. The stats he cites show me the opposite ….

  107. Bloomberg keeps getting further away from sanity.
    Pass me that 32 ounce coke please.

  108. I can’t believe it informatin from The New York Times

  109. American always want to war. this is happend

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