Will ObamaCare Hurt Democrats in 2012?
When Democrats made the final push to pass ObamaCare, part of the case they made to wavering legislators was that even though polls showed the law as unpopular at the time, public opinion would eventually come around. A while back, Politico collected a handful of examples of this sort of optimism: As early as August of 2009—the month that opposition to the law started to generate big headline—former president Bill Clinton could be found making the case that the law's popularity would go up "the minute the president signs" the bill. Obama pollster predicted that not only would Americans come to like the law, Republicans would be the ones to face negative political consequences. A White House, communications aide, meanwhile, promised The New York Times that Democrats would run "aggressively" on the law.
As it turns out, in his final State of the Union speech before the 2012 election, Obama barely mentioned the health care care overhaul. And the poll numbers have yet to turn in its favor. Via a new USA Today poll, a majority of voters support repealing the law, and it may be hurting the president in key contested election states like Ohio, Florida, Colorado, and Michigan:
In a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll of the nation's dozen top battleground states, a clear majority of registered voters call the bill's passage "a bad thing" and support its repeal if a Republican wins the White House in November. Two years after he signed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act— and as the Supreme Court prepares to hear arguments about its constitutionality next month — the president has failed to convince most Americans that it was the right thing to do.
…Though the law has avid supporters, especially in the president's Democratic base, the net effect among middle-of-the-road voters is negative for him. What's more, the issue unites the GOP when the party is fractured among competing presidential contenders.
Republicans, however, may find this advantage minimized if they nominate Mitt Romney, whose Massachusetts health care overhaul provided the model and basic framework for President Obama's national plan.
This is one of the conundrums of the Romney campaign: On one hand, many GOP voters have indicated that they favor him in large part because they view him as the most electable nominee. On the other hand, he's the candidate least well positioned to gain from one of the Republican party's biggest political advantages, and to press the president (and Congress, for that matter, should he win the presidency) on a top policy priority.
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Universal pollution is good.
Universal birth defects are good.
Universal asthma is good.
Universal Health Care for the victims, well, that's bad, see.
SUCK MY TAILPIPE, KOCHsuckers!
What the hell would capitalists do if they were held personally responsible for things that are their personal responsibility?
All this from a guy who refuses to wrap his head around the fact that primitive man burned the land twice a year and had a murder rate in excess of 15 per hundred.
It's just like an intellectually-bankrupt Fibertard to equate Rape and Making Love, just because penetration took place. Similarly, you're conflating ecological catastrophe and gardening.
Fire can be a gardening technique too. For instance, the Amazon Rainforest is largely a human made artifact - a garden of Eden.
the Amazon rain forest may be largely a human artifact
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By Charles C. Mann
March 2002 ATLANTIC MAGAZINE
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/a.....1491/2445/
American Indians burned parts of the ecosystems in which they lived to promote a diversity of habitats...Hardly ever did the various tribes purposely burn when the forests were most vulnerable to catastrophic wildfire. Indeed, for some Indians, saving the forest from fire was crucial for survival.
Native American use of fire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.....se_of_fire
...that I like! And a hell of a defensive lineman.
If your political philosophy is so awesome than why is the chief promoter on this site for it such a sniveling cunt?
Did it turn you into a sniveling cunt, or being a sniveling cunt turn you on to it?
Before I give it any consideration for adaptation, I have to know these things. Will it turn me into an airport moonie annoying the fuck out of everyone like you do on this site if I believe like you do?
Which one are you?
24 Types of Libertarians
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ObamaCare will be referred to as "giving Americans the right to health care, a right that Republicans want to take away", and Obama will win.
The way the issue is framed is going to determine how people react to it, especially people who don't bother doing much research before voting (ie, most of the voting population). It's disappointing how well-received the "cutting off access to women's healthcare" version of the contraception mandate has been, but that's politics, I suppose.
people who don't bother doing much research before voting (ie, most of the voting population)
Well, to be fair, most congresscreatures don't bother doing much research before voting on legislation, so it's kind of a wash.
You have to pass the legislation to find out what's in it. Pelosi told me so!
How about a right to be free? A right to make your own decisions about your life? A right to own property? A right to participate in an affluent, growing economy?
Liberty is scary.
How are you supposed to know what to do without authority giving orders?
How can people do things without authority giving permission?
How can you have a right to property and claim to the property of others?
Only government can resolve these issues, take away responsibility and consequence, and make us truly free... like children.
"I said, sweep the leg!"
http://blogs.the-american-inte.....lake-city/
New York begins the process of turning into Detroit.
Justice.
Is it really fair to put Romneycare on par with Obama's? Statewide isn't the same as nationwide.
At the very least, it shows that moderates are Mensheviks who clear the way for the Bolsheviks which is pretty much the opposite of what they view themselves to be, that being shrewd pragmatist who prevent the inevitable take over of a market through compromise.
Yes, it's fair. Both implemented a terrible health insurance/care law to the limit of their authority.
No reason to believe Romney wouldn't have signed the Obamacare bill.
Romney's so bland, even pictures of him acting stupid aren't funny.
Voting for a nominee because he's "electable" is pure partisan bullshit. What good is it to get "your guy" in if he's practically identical to "their guy?"
by itself sure. But I'd take a guy who only partially improves things but can get elected over someone who will improve things fully but inst electable. Its a question of whether than electable guy actually will make
some impoverishment.
R C'z Law, looming large.
On balance, the electable guy is going to fuck up as much as he improves. All you accomplish by having him in office is validating the legitimacy of these assholes micro-managing your life for you.
The problem is that only one, maybe two people in this race can effectively state the following fact: "Health care is NOT a right...and if it was, it would have been available a long time ago." That is how you shut them up...state facts...not opinions.
Oh, Mitt-san. I thought I smelled failure.