Regulation

Oil Sanctions and the Pretense of Knowledge

Why even the best-laid government plans still backfire

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“U.S. and EU sanctions on Iran’s crude oil exports and its central bank were not supposed to affect either the volume of oil available or its price, provided markets reacted ‘rationally,’” Reuters analyst John Kemp reported this week.

Who didn’t suppose this? A biased party: the “sanctions advocates at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies in Washington” in a report called “Oil Market Impact of Sanctions Against the Central Bank of Iran.”

This was not mere academic theorizing on their part. Decisions hinged on what the sanctions advocates at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies “supposed.” Writes Kemp, “The idea that sanctions could reduce Iran’s oil revenues without boosting prices for oil-consuming countries was crucial to persuading policymakers in the United States and Europe to impose far-reaching restrictions on Iran’s oil sector.”

Well, how did that work out? If you have a car, or merely walk past a gas station on a regular basis, you know the answer.

“Backfired”

“But the policy has backfired,” Kemp writes. “Oil prices have surged, harming consuming countries and offsetting the impact of lower exports on Iran’s revenues.”

How could things have gone so wrong? Kemp tells us that “U.S. and EU sanctions were written very carefully to include plenty of flexibility to ensure they would not risk a spike in prices” (emphasis added). No doubt the best minds in the bureaucracies were on the case.

U.S. sanctions, set out in Section 1245 of the National Defense Authorisation Act for Fiscal 2012 (HR 1540), apply only if the president determines “the price and supply of petroleum and petroleum products produced in countries other than Iran is sufficient to permit purchasers . . . to reduce significantly in volume their purchases from Iran”.

Sanctions do not apply if the president determines an importer has “significantly reduced” its volume of crude purchases from Iran, and the president can waive them altogether if it is in the national interest.

The law mandates experts at the Energy Information Administration (EIA), in conjunction with the departments of Treasury and State and the head of the intelligence community, to review the availability of alternative supplies every 60 days. [Emphasis added.]

Smart Folks

So how could it miss? The president, a smart guy advised by a slew of other smart folks, is empowered to determine all this stuff. And then experts review other important stuff.

Can’t miss, right?

Except it did. Kemp:

Two things have gone wrong. First, sanctions are interacting with other supply disruptions (in South Sudan, Yemen, Syria) to reduce supplies and exhaust the cushion of spare capacity Saudi Arabia holds. [Oops!]

Second, the thicket of sanctions on Iran imposed by the European Union and United States is now so complex it is becoming hard to conduct trade that is supposed to be permitted. [Oops!!]

Now people will proffer myriad sophisticated theories for why sanctions on a major oil producer affected supply and price despite the experts’ best effortsâ€"expect to see the terms futures markets, hedge funds, and money managers thrown aboutâ€"but the real explanation is fairly simple.

The “experts” don’t know what they’re doing. They may think they do. They surely want us to think that. But they’ve got a problem: The matter they are grappling with does not permit the kind of knowledge they would need to design a plan calibrated to produce the results they seek. They’re up to their eyebrows in data, but what they need more than data they haven’t got, and there’s no way to get it.

The Problem Is People

Rube Goldberg had it easy. He had only to arrange a series of inanimate objects and an occasional parrot to create his problem-solving devices. The expert who tries to calibrate sanctions to harm only Iran, but not oil consumers, have to deal with people. He seems, Adam Smith wrote in The Theory of Moral Sentiments,

to imagine that he can arrange the different members of a great society with as much ease as the hand arranges the different pieces upon a chess-board. He does not consider that the pieces upon the chess-board have no other principle of motion besides that which the hand impresses upon them; but that, in the great chess-board of human society, every single piece has a principle of motion of its own, altogether different from that which the legislature might chuse to impress upon it.

F. A. Hayek had something similar in mind in his 1974 Nobel lecture, “The Pretence of Knowledge”: “[I]n the study of such complex phenomena as the market, which depend on the actions of many individuals, all the circumstances which will determine the outcome of a process . . . will hardly ever be fully known or measurable.”

Belief to the contrary is what Hayek called “the scientistic prejudice,” or “the superstition that only measurable magnitudes can be important.” This is no innocuous error, Hayek said. On the contrary, based on this “pretence of knowledge,” “far-reaching claims are made on behalf of a more scientific direction of all human activities and the desirability of replacing spontaneous processes by ‘conscious human control.’” That is, the fallacy engenders a preference for force over freedom, the slave principle over the self-ownership principle.

Expectations

Another Austrian economist, Hayek’s student Ludwig Lachmann, elaborated on a critical factor that is beyond the reach of what Smith called “the man of system”: people’s expectations. To act, Lachmann explained, is to pursue a purpose embedded in a plan for the future. An individual’s plans are intimately related to her expectations. But expectations are not data available to bureaucrats. They are subjective, indeterminate, and often unarticulated. A sanctions regime calibrated to effect a precise outcome must fail because the designer cannot anticipate what expectations individualsâ€"entrepreneurs and consumersâ€"will form as they confront various situations.

Two individuals in the “same” situation may form widely divergent expectations. Any “experience, before being transformed into expectations, has, so to speak, to pass through a ‘filter’ in the human mind, and the undefinable character of this process makes the outcome of it unpredictable,” Lachmann wrote in “The Role of Expectations in Economics as a Social Science.” No wonder the bureaucrats fail.

Hayek ended his lecture with a moral lesson and an uncharacteristic bluntness:

The recognition of the insuperable limits to his knowledge ought indeed to teach the student of society a lesson of humility which should guard him against becoming an accomplice in men’s fatal striving to control society â€" a striving which makes him not only a tyrant over his fellows, but which may well make him the destroyer of a civilization which no brain has designed but which has grown from the free efforts of millions of individuals.

Sheldon Richman is editor of The Freeman, where this article originally appeared.

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  1. How did it happen? OPEC cut production significantly – that is why.

    I swear I am the only fucker here who pay attention to markets (well, Mo does too.)

    Now we EXPORT a net 439,000 barrels of petro product a fucking day.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/…..-2011.html

    Conservatives know NOTHING about markets – no doubt. The top capitalists prove it regularly.

    1. WHY SUPPORT THE AGRICULTURAL CITY-STATE, SHRIKE? WHY?!!!

      1. Who would have known?

        Only Nemesis.

        1. RAPITY RAPITY RAPITY

          1. or one of her gentle female children

            You Know It.

            1. Christians believe in the Father. That’s dumb.

              Mother Earth is sad.

            2. Lions and tigers and bears. They’re just gentle little children. They hurt no one.

              1. Just the right kind of goverment we’ve never seen before. They’re just gentle little children. They hurt no one.

                1. I put words in libertarians’ mouths. I mean, what would you do to reach utopia?

                  1. I didn’t put those words in any Fiberarians mouth. They pray for them every day. Deliverance from evil.

                    Oh god, our father ?
                    our furtherer
                    our evolutionary integrity unfolder
                    who are in heaven ?
                    who art in he-even
                    who is in everyone
                    hallowed (halo-ed)
                    be thy name
                    (be thine identity)
                    halo-ed —

                    the circumferential radiance
                    the omnidirectional aura of
                    our awareness of being
                    ever in the presence
                    of that which is greater,
                    more exquisite
                    and more enduring
                    than self ?

                    1. In addition to his regular thermodynamic crises he suffers from gender dysphoria.

                      I remember those evenings around the fire where he….okay where she would scream at us to address her only as White Squaw!

                      Geez there’s one in every small tribal band!

                    2. meow

                    3. Yep. I just can’t help putting words in libertarians’ mouths. What wouldn’t you do for the Original Affluent Society?

                  2. Oh god, our father ?
                    our furtherer
                    our evolutionary integrity unfolder
                    who are in heaven ?
                    who art in he-even
                    who is in everyone
                    hallowed (halo-ed)
                    be thy name
                    (be thine identity)
                    halo-ed —

                    the circumferential radiance
                    the omnidirectional aura of
                    our awareness of being
                    ever in the presence
                    of that which is greater,
                    more exquisite
                    and more enduring
                    than self ?

                    haloed be thine identification
                    which is to say
                    the omnidirectional
                    vision and total awareness
                    is a manifest of your identity
                    which name or identity is
                    most economically stated as:
                    truth is your identity ?

                    […]

                    A transcription of
                    B U C K M I N S T E R F U L L E R ‘ S
                    THE LORD’S PRAYER
                    http://www.brampitoyo.com/bucky.html

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                      again!

                    2. Stoopid libertards. They may not say the shit I claim they say, but I know they think it! I have a pretense of knowledge, you know.

                    3. Glad to see the 900 character limit has worked to decrease the amount of nonsense around here.

                    4. The only nonsense it has decreased is the cut and paste 6000 word Albanian translations reposted in 39 variations. I am not sure what the Ideal solution is;in an Ideal world we wouldn’t need one and in the Real world we will never have one.

                    5. So I guess we are left with our imperfect fallback solutions;rational discourse with the adults,scorn and ridicule for the children.

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          again!

    2. Petroleum and post-refined ‘petroleum products’ are different subjects. The Bloom article you speak of HAS to be about refined products, not raw oil (what OPEC does).

      United States pumps ~9 million barrels a day I think. Burns up or otherwise consumes ~20 million. Physics suck Shrike.

      1. Math is hard for me.

        1. in his holy-roller Christian Skool Education.

      2. Dieoff
        http://dieoff.org/

        Same as fiat money.

        Let’s blame Bernanke for our sins. Hell, let’s blame White Indian for warning us.

        1. CONFIRMATION BIAS FEELS SO GOOD!!!

          1. really, like a greek tragedy

            The realization of the eventual but inevitable collapse of city-Statism is the reason for all the myths of apocalypse.

            The Book of Revelation is pure myth; however, there is more truth to myth than you suspect.

          2. really, like a greek tragedy

            The realization of the eventual but inevitable collapse of city-Statism is the reason for all the myths of apocalypse.

            The Book of Revelation is pure myth; however, there is more truth to myth than you suspect.

            1. Christians believe in the Apocalypse. That’s dumb.

              I believe in the Apocalypse. I’m smart.

              1. The map is not the territory. ~Alford Korzybski

                (the Book of Revelations is an extremely poorly drawn map, but John did see the territory)

                1. The Christian Apocalypse hasn’t happened. But I know it’s a myth.

                  Civilization hasn’t collapsed. But I know it will.

                  1. Not literally, word for word. (As Fundamentalists believe, quite stupidly.)

                    But literarily (as evidenced by archeology,) it has, many, many times, as documented by:

                    Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed
                    by Jared Diamond
                    http://www.amazon.com/Collapse…..0670033375

                    1. One civilization collapses, another takes its place. I know it’s because of agriculture.

                      Richard Manning told me so.

                    2. Or Issac Newton.

                      Study it yourself.

                    3. You know I might listen to your preaching if you would only post a link once and awhile!

                  2. That’s true.

                    Literally, stories of nemesis are a myth.

                    Literarily, they’re quite true.

                    1. Anthropologists who disagree with my worldview are dumb. I mean, look at this city-statist cunt below:

                      http://books.google.com/books?…..q&f;=false

                    2. If you think gravity is just a theory, yeah, you’re pretty stupid.

                      If you think Statism is separate from agricultural city-Statism, yeah, you’re pretty stupid.

                      If you think tornadoes are possible in dry weather, or much freedom is possible in city-Statism (civilization,) you’re pretty stupid.

                      Stupid is as stupid doesn’t check premises.

                    3. He points to empirical studies that contradict what you believe about prehistoric man, WI. Maybe you should check your premises.

                    4. Wow, proving gravity is not at all the same as trying to prove the existence of a social-construct. Sociology is not science. Now that doesn’t mean it’s useless, but you can’t do double-blind controlled experiments with two million years of human history.

                      Stop confusing the two.

                    5. Correction: You don’t wish it was a science.

                      Non-thinking is an act of annihilation, a wish to negate existence, an attempt to wipe out reality. But existence exists; reality is not to be wiped out, it will merely wipe out the wiper. By refusing to say “It is,” you are refusing to say “I am.” By suspending your judgment, you are negating your person. When a man declares: “Who am I to know?” he is declaring: “Who am I to live?”

                    6. So if I disagree with you, it’s because I’m not thinking?

                      How perfectly self-aggrandizing.

                      Yes, empirical studies in the social sciences are about as close as they can get to the physical sciences. But you can’t recreate two million years of human history in a controlled setting, much less repeat the experiment using the same parameters.

                      Hell, true science is never really “settled.” Theory does not mean “This is the exact truth, and that will never change.” It’s just that certain theories, like gravity, have been observed over and over again in controlled settings and through mathematical observation.

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              again!

        2. Oil, made out of thin air like fiat money.

          Totally analogous.

          1. Suit yourself, I won’t stop you.

            1. White folly. That’s my middle name.

              1. Any middle name you choose is yours. Own it.

                1. You can’t own a name. That’s Privation Property, for Gaia’s sake!

                  1. Government enforced property.

                    You know, the city-STATIST who say:

                    “WE NEED GOVERMENT TO PROTECT OUR ____ RIGHTS.”

                    Fools. 2 million years of non-state society prove it.

                    1. I like anthropologists who agree with my worldview. Those who don’t are just city-statist apologists.

                      Because I said so.

                    2. Seems to be your principle world view. Read too much Rand? 😉

                    3. Do we have sufficient data that cover two-million-years-worth of human prehistory? As far as I knew, it’s still being studied extensively. You claim you know exactly how humans interacted over that long a time period, even though we’re still researching it.

                      And there are studies out there that suggest what you believe is inaccurate, or just totally false, like the one above.

                      That right there is enough to make me suspicious of your worldview.

                    4. Negative, ghostrider.

                      But you wish all the emprical evidence away.

                      Non-thinking is an act of annihilation, a wish to negate existence, an attempt to wipe out reality. But existence exists; reality is not to be wiped out, it will merely wipe out the wiper. By refusing to say “It is,” you are refusing to say “I am.” By suspending your judgment, you are negating your person. When a man declares: “Who am I to know?” he is declaring: “Who am I to live?”

                    5. I claim my ass is sore.

                    6. Anal is Anal!

                    7. Uh, no.

                      I know how to think, WI. I’ve presented empirical evidence that argues against the Nobel Savage theory. You accuse me of something I do not do.

    3. Damn!

        1. “Professor Dennis Stanford from Washington’s Smithsonian Institution, and Professor Bruce Bradley from Exeter University believe that the ancient Europeans travelled to North America across an Atlantic frozen over by the Ice Age.”

          Who knew?

          from telegraph.co.uk

          1. “…between 19,000 and 26,000 years [ago]…”

            Who’d have thought?

            1. Fundamentalist Fibertard

              What’s the difference?

              1. make me

              2. What’s the difference between any kind of fundamentalism?

                1. The uniforms you’re expected to wear.

    4. Shrike said:
      How did it happen? OPEC cut production significantly – that is why.

      I swear I am the only fucker here who pay attention to markets (well, Mo does too.)

      February 29th, 2012: “OPEC oil output rises to more than 3-year high”
      http://in.reuters.com/article/…..onomicNews

  2. WHY ARE WE RAPING MOTHER EARTH?!!! WHY?!!!!!! RAPITY RAPITS RAPING!!!

    1. Ask yourself quietly. Instead of being a damn Pharisee with your prayers in sackcloth and ashes, like 2000 years ago.

      Agriculture = rape. (Research the Greek mythology of the goddess Demeter, and her daughter Persephone, the deity of grain and agriculture.)

      It’s no worse facing your sins than the sins you want liberals to face.

      We are all one.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG-GedlU-JE

      1. RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISTS.

        They’re dumb. They sin against Mother Earth.

        1. Sin

          “Sin lies only in hurting other people unnecessarily. All other “sins” are invented nonsense. (Hurting yourself is not sinful – just stupid).” Robert A. Heinlein

          THOU ART GOD, mocker, if thou desirest to be.

          1. Sin lies only in hurting other people unnecessarily.

            Robert Heinlein told me so.

            1. Attributing quotes to the originators a kindness.

              You could figure it out too, just like Heinlein did.

              1. You agree with something someone else says, and that ends the debate.

                Fascinating.

          2. You can be just like God, if you desire. Really.

            1. …the force who has the power to destroy the earth.

              Humans are there.

              Humans are doing it.

              It’s time to steer 15? left and avoid the iceberg and Titantic scenario.

              Not all the difficult, unless you’re too stupid to predict or see icebergs.

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                again!

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    3. RAPITY RAPE RAPE RAPE!? STEVE SMITH HAPPY TO HELP BRING ABOUT THE APOCALYPSE….STEVE SMITH RAPE WHITE IDIOT ANY TIME HE WANT.

  3. The idea that they could restrict supply from one of the world’s leading producers of a commodity, and not effect prices of that commodity, is ludicrous. Once again, it’s hard to tell if they we’re deceitful, or merely ignorant.

    1. It’s deceit and a depraved indifference; if the serfs suffer, it’s no big deal to aristocrats like Obama.

      1. This is the same reason the Koch brothers fund anti-global-warming hack writers.

        1. This is the same reason governments fund pro-AGW hack writers.

          1. So 98% of the scientific community are hacks? That’s a damn convincing argument.

            1. Since when did consensus become science?

              1. …become an alternative to science?

                1. Fuck off rather!

                  1. …become an alternative to gentlemanly argument?

                    Francisco d’ Anconia goes to Argument Clinic
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

                    Francisco d’Anconia added one more comment to the reasons
                    for his arrival. “I wanted to witness the farce,” he said.

                    “You are the farce,” replied White Indian.

                    His long, thin face looked as if it had shrunk inward, with the exception of his mouth and eyeballs, which were left to protrude as three soft globes. He was the editor of a magazine called The Unknown Ideal and he had written an article on White Indian, entitled “Non-cityState Society Mothers Have Pendulous Breasts and listen to Mozart.”

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                      again!

                    2. When did infantile petulance..|3.2.12 @ 9:03PM|#
                      …become an alternative to gentlemanly argument?

                      Wow, I almost can’t believe you wrote that. Fibertard this and city-statist that.

                    3. to the Fibertard level, cw?

                    4. keep going until your ass bleeds

                    5. C’mon, dude. You’ve stooped to an ungentlemanly level all on your own. You misrepresent what libertarians believe on a regular basis.

                    6. I mean, just look at an example on this thread. You called Francisco d Anconia’s comment, Since when did consensus become science?, “infantile petulance.” What he asked is valid. Why would you call that infantile petulance?

                    7. The irony is causing my head to explode.

        2. Turns out they don’t fund that.

          It was another bullshit story made up by fanatics who will do anything but discuss things openly.

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            Hardiness Zones
            See Changes From 1990 to 2006
            http://www.arborday.org/media/map_change.cfm

      2. Government is just middle management for the “real owners of this country.”

        George Carlin
        The real owners of the country
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oBo8CJxatQ

        Even a comedian gets it. But not Fibertards! NO!

        1. Never once to I attack liberals like The Derider. Nope.

          KOCHS = real owners of this country.

          George Carlin told me so.

          1. But I have been a libertarian. And I know the language and views.

            So take my critique like a man, and quit whining.

            ~White Indian

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              again!

            2. I don’t know if I believe you were ever a libertarian. To go from “private property rights are the foundation of a just society” to “private property rights are evil” is a great example of a complete 180 in someone’s worldview.

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  5. My favorite quote – ‘I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken.’

    Experts are never mistaken, they have a thousand excuses after the fact for why things didn’t work out the way they said they would. No matter how many times in a row they fail, it deters them not the least from making the next attempt. Thomas Sowell calls this “the conceit of the anointed”, Hayek called it “the fatal conceit”. In any case, it is hubris of a breathtaking magnitude to not only think you can command all of humanity but to think that you should.

    1. I’m an expert on stuff. You’re not. I read books. You don’t. Therefore I know what’s best for you.

      1. …you too might be as timorous as White Indian’s Friday evening detractor.

        1. I think he’s saying you’re conceited. You assume that, because libertarians don’t agree with you, they must not be as well-read as you.

          It’s one thing to argue someone’s wrong. It’s quite another to resort to ad hominems.

  6. He’s an idiot. I wouldn’t trust the man to wax my car.

    1. George McFly: Uh… now Biff, I want make sure that we get two coats of wax this time. Not just one.

      Biff Tannen: Just finishing up the second coat now.

  7. Why does Obama always seem to get everything exactly backwards?

    You want to see Iran move its security interests more in line with the United States? You hit ’em with a free trade agreement, not sanctions.

    As a general rule, free trade creates cooperation, and trade barriers create more division–even if that runs contrary to Obama’s faith.

    1. “Free” traders are bullshitting city-Statists.

      The state controlled human labor, and material goods indirectly through that medium. Civilization rests heavily on specialization: specialists in crafts, specialists in religion, specialists in defense, even specialists in bureaucracy ? the elites themselves….Once again, it is an elite activity ? trade ? which drives agriculture.

      Thesis #10: Emergent elites led the Agricultural Revolution.
      http://theanarchistlibrary.org…..html#toc16

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        again!

      2. I had no idea agriculture started in Polynesia and spread outward…

      3. Traders are city-Statists.

        This is just silly. If two people meet to exchange items, they are engaging in trade. Are you claiming prehistoric men never traded among themselves? That’s just laughable.

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    again!

  9. Best Fibertard retort, ever!

    Do you realize now, dimly, why you can never, ever, get to even 1% of the voice of the free-market of ideas in politics?

    Glad to say I’m not one.

    (Go ahead, add your clever retort onto here, if it makes you feel better.)

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      again!

      1. Just like any sufficiently domesticated Ultimate Resource.

        Say “moo.”

        1. hard when my rectum is gushing blood

    2. hUrrr Durrr Fibertarians don’t much get vote LULZZ!

      uber-luddites crush Fibertarians in elections harrrr!!!

      WUT NOW??

  10. “The nature of White Imbeciles to fling shit when they are startled and exited has been a special area of study for me,” so says Dr. Kimberly Clark after a study of White Imbeciles in the wild.

    Since it has been known through empirical studies that White Imbeciles are animals, their behavior in the wild has been the subject of intense study by several researchers, including Dr. Clark.

    “What we found is that White Imbeciles engage in very repetitive behavior, clearly a manifestation of instinct and not much else, but the most fascinating aspect of this behavior is their flinging of shit everywhere.”

    “Studying White Imbeciles In The Wild,”
    Dr. Kimberly Clark
    University of Clark County Press
    1972 Pages 230-320

    1. Best Libertard retort, ever!

      1. …when somebody other than a KOCHsucker does it.

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          again!

        2. So, real references that contradict your worldview, are those fraudulent?

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      again!

  11. “The nature of White Imbeciles to fling shit when they are startled and exited has been a special area of study for me,” so says Dr. Kimberly Clark after a study of White Imbeciles in the wild.

    Since it has been known through empirical studies that White Imbeciles are animals, their behavior in the wild has been the subject of intense study by several researchers, including Dr. Clark.

    “What we found is that White Imbeciles engage in very repetitive behavior, clearly a manifestation of instinct and not much else, but the most fascinating aspect of this behavior is their flinging of shit everywhere.”

    “Studying White Imbeciles In The Wild,”
    Dr. Kimberly Clark
    University of Clark County Press
    1972 Pages 230-320

    1. Best Libertard retort, ever!

      1. …when somebody other than a KOCHsucker does it.

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          again!

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      again!

  12. Here I go again! ..THIS time twice as many DEviled egG recIPe links!…FiBERTarians lie! Proof of the LIBtard anti-mustache GamBol lockdown here! http://www.incredibleegg.org/DeviledEgg …Or click on this one http://www.deviledeggs.com Libtard cITy/statists CAN’T answer this one either can you? CITY/STATISTS lie about EVerything! Why can’t FiberTARians debate me ON my intellecTUAL level? OBVIOUSLY I am in a BAttle of the wits with unARMed opponents.

    1. tell me all your thoughts on God

    2. u forgot the []

  13. Cut and paste spamming protocol to follow…..

    1. ever wipe your ass and find a whole pea? Then wonder why you bothered eating it

  14. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAjZojWpNqo City/statist Paradox?Libtards stuMPed aGAIN?

    1. happy now?

  15. Actually no,I can only spoof WI for a short time before migraines set in. And he won’t share any of his Walter White Super Meth so you can’t look forward to the 12 straight hours of pure gibberish that that would produce.

    1. rats

  16. So how’s that pre-registration thingy comin’ along?

    1. just marvelous darling

      1. …blame it on others.

        just marvelous darling

        1. who shit in your oatmeal and called it brown sugar?

        2. I think commenters here are tired of the way you repeatedly and maliciously misrepresent what libertarians believe. Others and I have posted links to empirical studies that contradict your worldview.

          Then you just keep posting the same references, like they somehow end the debate.

          I don’t blame people here when they make fun of you.

          1. I agree.The purest most virulent strains of stupidity are the kind most deserving of our scorn and ridicule. People here can cut and paste off topic gibberish and non-sequitors just as well as dipshit in response and I don’t blame them in the least. Not to mention it’s far more economical/entertaining.

  17. Kick down some of the Super Meth so we can be like you.

    1. it’s clorox. you can get some at your local chemist

  18. The People’s President Obama now invades Yemen.

    1. Sweet. That’s a war i can sink my teeth into.
      if I had teeth.

  19. Is it wrong to hope for White Indian’s death?

  20. So Sheldon, are you saying that ‘Top Men’ fucked things up?

    Top men fucking things up is so…..unexpected.

  21. Not sure why I never thought of that, makes a lot of sense dude.

    http://www.Gone-Anon.at.tc

  22. Elizabeth Warren the soft-Stalinist welfare advocate reveals herself to be a war-mongering Fascist.

    http://elizabethwarren.com/iss…..ign-policy

  23. Iran: always innocent. Yeah the sensible the thing to do is not deregulate oil production in the US but to pour money over the heads of Armageddon hungry lunatics developing nuclear weapons. Somebody please bring me a wall so I can bang my head against it a bazillion times.

  24. Dude is like totally rocking it man, I mean like wow.

    http://www.Been-Anon.tk

  25. No improvement in the level of discourse here, I see. Just checking.

    1. Seriously. This shit is past being old. I used to enjoy the commentary, even with the old set of shrike-like progs. I’m just wondering why the hell Reason keeps letting the comment section get hijacked by crazy person/White Indian/Rather or whoever it is cutting and pasting the same old we need to get back to nature screeds. Well, Reason staff?

      1. Perhaps they prefer a comment section grounded in freedom of expression.

  26. What is it about Richman that brings out the full-bore monkey house crazy?

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