Mandatory Drugs Tests by Record Companies, Media Scoldings, and Other Helpful Suggestions for Preventing Further Whitney Houstons
Creepy media-leech/medical professional Dr. Drew Pinsky has been covering the death of Whitney Houston because that's just what he does.
One of Dr. Drew's recent show guests suggested that record companies start mandatory drug testing. Drew said "I love that."
It's never as offensive when it's just two people talking, instead of people who get to enact destructive drug laws laws, but still, any actual effects of that benign-sounding policy (say who is going to institute it and how when label folks want to sign and retain major musicians who may not be interested in pissing in a cup) were breezed by as they often are when people are trying to fix the unfixable. Drug warrior and certain media folks tend to be big fans of social engineering.
So is Bill O'Reilly, who got into an argument with Matt Lauer on The Today Show about celebrities and drug use.
According to the Fox News blog, said O'Reilly:
"This is ridiculous, Whitney Houston killed herself. Do we all understand that? You don't use hard drugs for decades, decades. You don't spend $100 million on them not wanting to kill yourself. So why aren't we telling the truth to young people in America?"
Bill noted that there aren't any celebrities putting out public service announcements telling kids not to do drugs. He said all we see are "creeps" like Snoop Dogg and Willie Nelson who are celebrated for getting high. "There's no one in the media saying this could lead to death and if it doesn't lead to death, 75 percent of all child abuse and neglect is done by substance abusers," argued Bill.
O'Reilly loves his moral outrage. Celebrities are obligated to just say no, media is obligated to shame and scold, and somehow a 25.6 billion (federal) dollars a year drug war, including millions spend on propaganda campaigns and $7million spend on a "Prescription Drug Monitoring Program", is not "telling the truth" to the kids? What facts exactly are being shielded? What does O'Reilly suggest? A mass-shunning of all famous people who also have used or abused drugs so that the kids don't get any ideas?
Possibly. Now let's look back at that awkward moment when musician Sting seemed less repellent after he and other celebrities participated in the Drug Policy Alliance's no more drug war video. Here's O'Reilly debating Ethan Nadelmann from the DPA last year over that PSA and drug policy in general:
And please enjoy Jacob Sullum — the man who eats drug warriors for breakfast — debating with O'Reilly, with much disdain on the pundit's part towards Sullum, who not only supports legalization, but even wrote a book called Saying Yes: In Defense of Drug Use.
In June 2010, Sullum noted that the 70-80 percent of child abuse cases involve substance abuse statistics that O'Reilly clearly favors when it comes to arguing drug policy, are bunk:
Sullum:
According to Childabuse.com, "Among confirmed cases of child maltreatment, 40% involve the use of alcohol or other drugs." According to Childhelp USA, "Nearly one-half of substantiated cases of child neglect and abuse are associated with parental alcohol or drug abuse." According to the Child Welfare Information Gateway, "Substance abuse may be a contributing factor for between one-third and two-thirds of maltreated children in the child welfare system." Furthermore, these estimates refer to "substance abuse" generally, the vast majority of it involving alcohol, not "narcotics." Finally, the causal interpretation of these associations remainscontroversial, so O'Reilly's assumption that more drug use means more child abuse is unsubstantiated.
Over at Slate, meanwhile, there's a piece which cuts straight to the heart of this media hand-wringing in which O'Reilly angrily and Dr. Drew sorrowfully engage. The piece is headlined "Did We All Kill Whitney Houston—Or Did We Prolong Her Life?"
We remember all those creepy-awkward "crack is whack" jokes, and the tabloids also seemed particularly hungry for Amy Winehouse to kick the bucket, but still, writes Danial Engber:
The case against the American public ignores the fundamental benefit of having tabloid headlines and network TV shows and all the other trappings of celebrity. Being famous—whether it's the good, Star-Spangled-Banner kind or the bad, rapid-weight-loss kind—is worth a lot of money. And money is, broadly speaking, very good for your health. Speaking on national television in 2002, moments before her infamous declaration that "crack is wack," the freshly-rehabbed diva made a revealing statement about the nature of her addiction: "Crack is cheap," she said. "I made too much money to ever smoke crack. Let's get that straight." Yes, she'd been taking drugs, but she'd been doing it in the way that a rich person does.
Drug abuse has much more dire consequences, on average, for those who live in poverty. Epidemiological studies have repeatedly shown that the higher your socioeconomic status, the less likely you are to die from your addictions. Low-income users are more likely to share needles and cookers; they're more likely to take speedballs; they have higher rates of HIV and lower rates of treatment for it; they tend to inject their drugs in shooting galleries; and they lack the friends and family-members who might encourage them into treatment or even cart them off to the ER in case of overdose. If you're an addict who's stuck on the street, you're more vulnerable to all the morbidity and mortalitythat comes with your disease.
To the extent that a public fascination with Houston's drug use kept her in the newspapers and on television, it also kept her income from dropping to zero even during her darkest days. Before Saturday, who's to say how many times her platinum records and celebrity status had already saved her life?
The rest here.
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How about mandatory drug tests of RIAA lawyers. Daily. Using a spoon to draw blood.
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Mandatory drug tests of pop stars?
ROTFLMAO
Man, I can't believe he said that!
Yeah. Economic suicide if your a record company.
Never mind that -- Did O'Reilly actually claim that Whitney Houston spent $100 million on drugs? What does he think she was smoking, Lamborginis?
For all the mockery Dr Drew's comment will get here, it's ironic that in a different context many of you would use the same argument as a libertarian solution to drug addiction. If businesses have a problem with (legalized) employee drug use/abuse, those who voluntarily work for private companies would voluntarily submit to testing, with financial incentives not to fall back into addiction. But we'll forget that sort of thinking right now because it's more fun to mock. However, look for suspiciously similar arguments to be made in the next "drugs should be legal" piece.
lol, I think everyone should be tested, weekly.! EVERYONE!
http://www.anon-dot.tk
Sheesh.
That is all.
Ok, who is the biggest mouth breeder mouth breather, Bill O'Reilly or Sean Hannity?
Hannity by a retarded mile.
"Creepy media-leech/medical professional Dr. Drew Pinsky"
I find reason.com very refreshing.
What word comes to YOUR mind while watching Bill O'Reilly?
Asshole
blow hard.
If we get two words, I'll go with fucking asshole
Dr. Drew is one of the biggest bloodsucking quacks I have ever seen.
Wow...if there's ever a poster for the total rejection of logic and conflation of opposites, it's in that Bill O'Reilly piece. And to think that people continue to take this man seriously.
Mandatory drug tests by record companies?
If you think music sucks now...
Dr. Drew's views on drugs are definitely skewed by his profession, but outside of that he has pretty libertarian views. I've heard him make statements multiple times that the government needs to leave everyone alone. I would even venture to guess that if pressed on it, he would agree that it's not the government's job to protect people from drugs. He is convinced that drugs are evil though.
Dude, I actually like Dr. Drew in spite of his wrongheadedness on just about everything, but I have *never* heard him make even libertarian-LIKE statements. I want an example.
He all but declared support for Ron Paul on the Carolla podcast last week.
The next time Bill O'Really comes to Texas he better have at least a dozen hired bodyguards. Willie Nelson's a cultural icon here and we don't take too kind to some media loudmouth carpetbagger referring to him as a 'creep'.
Murdering someone for what he said about a singer you like is a completely reasonable response.
I could believe in a Just God if a TSA agent were to find 200 grams of MJ or even 50 oxycontin pills the next time Bill O'Reilly goes through an airport scanner.
You know, I understand the "social costs of prohibition are worse than the social costs of somewhat higher addiction" arguments. Absolutely. Those make sense. It's why I agree prohibition should be repealed.
What I don't understand is how anyone thinks they're going to be taken seriously when they argue that really, being addicted to drugs isn't so bad. It might even be good for you! All it takes is knowing one person who accidentally got addicted to painkillers after a surgery and had a hell of a time kicking them to know that this claim that drug addiction is just a lifestyle choice, like choosing what kind of shoes you like, is a bunch of BS. Or know a family member who's tried to quit smoking dozens of times and can't. Or known a few non-functional alcoholics.
Acknowledging that meth is actually really, really bad for you and ridiculously addictive is not the same thing as agreeing that it should be illegal.
Epidemiological studies have repeatedly shown that the higher your socioeconomic status, the less likely you are to die from your addictions
I'm glad they listed the non-financial reasons for why this is the case. This type of connection is often trouted out to suggest that more zeros on a bank account inherently improve life for people in ridiculous ways.