Mentally Ill Man Who Was Arrested, Put in Solitary for 22 Months, Awarded $22 Million for His Trouble
This is the kind of all-American human interest story never highlighted in State of the Union addresses; a federal judge just awarded former New Mexico resident Stephen Slevin $22 million for the "inhumane treatment" he suffered while in solitary confinement at Doña Ana County Detention Center in New Mexico.
Slevin, who had a history of mental illness, was arrested in August 2005 and, according to the Las Cruces Sun-News, charged with "possession of a stolen vehicle, aggravated driving while under the influence, driving with a suspended license, possession of an open container of alcohol in a vehicle and improper use of registration, according to court records."
He was then put into solitary confinement for 22 months and denied medical attention while his mental state worsened. He was briefly taken to a psychiatric hospital, but then returned to jail.
The lawsuit stated that Slevin at one point had to pull his own tooth and his pleas for medical care were ignored. It also said he now has PTSD and will have to take medication for life. If he didn't have mental problems before, it seems pretty unsurprising for him to have them now.
Slevin was released in 2007 after a judge dismissed the charges against him and ruled Slevin "incompetent and not dangerous."
The county is appealing the decision and it's unlikely that anything near that level of payout will be awarded to Sleven; They offered to settle for $2 million before the judge's verdict, but were refused. Slevin said "this was never about the money," but here's hoping he gets something substantial enough to live on for the rest of life. Or to pay his medical bills, since since he's currently fighting lung cancer.
Read Reason on solitary confinement, and on criminal justice, particularly July 2010's "Criminal Injustice" special issue
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Denied medial attention? I'd go crazy, too.
If he actually had to remove his own tooth, that is pretty monumentally fucked.
Unfortunately, if he's severely mentally ill, he might have done that under any circumstances. However, that's why you don't throw mentally ill people in solitary for 22 months.
And yet it takes a $22mil jury verdict for the government to figure that out.
Actually, on second thought, I'm skeptical this will even help them learn.
It's not like it comes out of the pocket of any individual involved in doing any of these things.
Sure it does, Barry, seven cents apiece, just like the rest of us.
No one would look at his navel.
Thank you, FoE, for being the only person who caught that.
this'll turn-out like the chapelle skit on reparations
What I'm confused about is if he was awaiting trial all that time, or awaiting arraignment, or if they had just put him in there and called it a day. Because some of the news reports make it sound like the LAST one (i.e. they put him in solitary and never bothered to try him or even allow him to go to court) and that would probably more than justify the 22 mil.
It's New Mexico. Things work differn't down there.
My question:
Stephen Slevin $22 million for the "inhumane treatment" he suffered while in solitary confinement at Do?a Ana County Detention Center in New Mexico.
What's a severely mentally ill man gonna spend it on?
Pez.
If he's not committed ("incompetent and not dangerous"), anything he wants!
Isn't he the bum that wrote "Itchy & Scratchy"?
I hope he gets a solid gold house out of this. And a rocket car.
Wait, this is confusing:
Then:
*Sigh* I'll read the sad LC Sun news article I guess.
Whoops. Noted and fixed. Sorry about that.
PWN'D
Seriously, dude?
DOUBLEPWND
Not at all, Lucy. How dare you accuse me of being serious!
I expect snarking, raping, and pillaging from you people, not internetisms my brother was found of five years ago.
Lucy, YTMND!
I don't want to live in a world where PWN'D has gone out of style. Your future is a dark place Lucy, devoid of joy.
damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
found of?
TRIPLEPWND
I expect snarking, raping, and pillaging from you people, not internetisms my brother was found of five years ago.
She's so flustered she can't even comment straight.
You really shouldn't talk with the commentariate. It diminishes your mystique, which in turn, saps your strength.
You really shouldn't talk with the commentariate. It diminishes your mystique, which in turn, saps your strength.
but here's hoping he gets something substantial enough to live on for the rest of life. Especially since
Is that an overly-dramatic pause?
This is not my day.
Thank God blogging awkwardness is distracting me from horror at America's criminal justice system!
So how come you didn't fix "medial" when I pointed it out in the first comment?
Do you WANT the terrorists to win?! Why do you hate poor/black/gay people?
Your correction was way too subtle, dude. People responded without noticing it. What, do you expect an editor to read whole words or something?
I give up on this thread. Y'all outrage among yourselves.
Lucy? Did they warn you about us or just throw you in the deep end for the lulz like they did poor marketurbanism Steve Smith?
I think I've mentioned that I used to read the comments as well as the blogs, back when I was merely the world's biggest Reason fangirl. I laughed and mostly lurked. So I knew.
So I knew.
Is that better or worse? I really can't decide. You didn't get the period of shocked confusion that Steve Smith got to luxuriate in.
"Mostly" lurked? I guess telling us your handle would leaded to too many archives searches...
It was "Lucy." But I swear, I was boring. All I remember is going "nooooooo" on the Balko goodbye post. Things like that.
How old are you, Lucy? You must have been, what, 16? 17? back in the Hit&Run; Golden Age.
24. I was reading Reason back in the supposed Golden Age, but I am not sure how often I dipped into Hit and Run.
(I'm failing at ignoring you all.)
24? I've got suits older than you.
As long as they're not suits made out of women.
If we can sit back and take an objective look at this...we honestly are a bunch of assholes.
I will agree that you are an asshole, Jimbo. Totally.
Then my mission to Earth has been a success. Unfortunately, I'm needed back on my home planet, where assholishness and intolerance are at unprecedented lows.
That's Assholi Alpha 5, right?
No, Epi, you moron. It's called Dallas now.
Actually you're both stupid and wrong. It's located in the ZOMG I have crabs! nebula.
You idiots, THIS IS ASSHOLI ALPHA 5!!!
Which shares a sun with Transexual, Transylvania.
JIIIMMMMMBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Fun Fact: Frank N. Furter was escaping the tyranny of Ricardo Montalban.
Are you not aware of the fine tradition of PWNAGE here on H&R, Lucy? EXAMPLWND
Warty, thank you for the reset. Good times, good times.
Any club is a good club when it's used to beat Dan T.
There'll be a little something extra in your paycheck for that one.
Lucy, you could have said "before going before a judge" or "before arraigned". You know, goose the outrage like a proper journalist. Sheesh.
Yep. I got bogged down in my headline-writin'.
BLOGWNED!
No, it should be HEADLIN'D!
the dreaded Blog Bog.
They put him there and called it a day. If he had gone before a judge or gotten a lawyer, he would have been out and this would have never happened.
This happens more than you think. In Atlanta a few years ago some asshole US Attorney filed fraud charges against an 80 something old man who had cashed two social security checks. The second had been sent to him by mistake and the old man thought it was his and cashed it. So for that crime, they arrested him and threw him in Fulton County. The jail then forgot they had him, never called a lawyer for him, never took him before a judge, and didn't provide him his medication. No one knew he was there until they found him dead.
The cops who work jail are even lower forms of life than beat cops. If you are just too stupid, too cruel or both to be trusted working crimes, they have you work in the jail. It is a national disgrace.
When I was first getting out of the military and wanted to continue in a similiar job (i.e. state paycheck and uniform, because it was what I was used to), I applied, and was accepted as a prison guard at TDCJ. I scored high enough on all their tests that they even promised to locate me at a looney bin prison, which is much easier work than at a regular criminal prison.
I would up not taking the job (thank god), but the guy who inverviewed me basically said the same thing. He said since I appeared to be smart and articulate, I should go be a regular cop, because frankly, prison guards tend to be thugs and the dregs of society.
*wound up not taking the job
There was a study done a while back looking at why the crime rates around prisons were higher than other areas. The thought had always been it was because the criminals' families would move close to the prison and thus increase the crime rate. It turns out that few families move close to prisons and they have no effect on the crime rate. But the families of prison guards do move close to the prison and they are the ones responsible for the increase in the crime rate.
If you have ever actually been to a prison, you quickly find the guards to be generally as scary or more scary than the inmates.
The joke around FLDOC's administrative headquarters was that the difference between which side of the bars they're on is whether they've been caught yet or not.
That is both funny and frightening at the same time.
What was the name of this man?
I can't remember. It made the papers when I was living down there.
What a shame to make such a fine beard suffer.
I imagine the people who did this to him will keep their jobs and face no criminal charges.
I imagine you imagine right. And who pays? The taxpayer.
As scams go, it's a brilliant one.
They just gave a crazy guy with possibly no responsibilities or commitments whatsoever, access to practically limitless finances. And he deserves every penny.
I'm more than willing to sell him my magic beans for merely half of his money.
He's got lung cancer, so he's got a date with death pretty soon. I'd call that a commitment.
Since they think he's crazy, there might be another kind of commitment in his future as well.
So:
Crazy
Going to die soon
Nothing to lose
Pretty much no significant consequences for anything he does
And:
22 million.
I'm just saying this guy has options on the table, when you think about the circumstances that led to this. Why does no one seem to be catching my drift?
you could make a movie...
How so?
Do they have lower ethical standards than the leadership of Penn State?
$22million in two years! It's the American Dream realized.
And think of all the jobs created or saved by his lifetime medical needs!
If he didn't have mental problems before, it seems pretty unsurprising for him to have them now.
Here's the appeal: We didn't imprison a mentally ill man, as he developed the mental illness under our care.
The cops should have just beaten him to death. It's cheaper and they get a paid vacation out of it.
No shit.
And medals! Dont' forget the medals!
Government workers are so inefficient that way.
+1
So, knowing a little something about Las Cruces and Dona Ana county in particular. I can tell you right now that they don't have $22 million. So I'm curious how this payout is gonna work.
The whole county is sent to Debtor's Prison. Or maybe Australia.
They have an insurance policy. State and local governments do not self insure.
It would be loltastic if they have let that lapse.
So, knowing a little something about Las Cruces and Dona Ana county in particular, it wouldn't be surprising if they have let it lapse.
It would be. But they didn't. I am sure that is who defended them in the suit. What is not loltastic is what this is going to do to their rates. The taxpayers will be the ones taking that in the shorts to pay for their sadistic cops.
sadistic cops
Is there any other kind?
yup. most of them.
also, jail guards are not cops. we don't consider them cops.
some sheriff's dept's (this was county jail iirc) have actual cops in the jail e.g. LASO (where deputies work in both assignments, but usually they work the jail upon hire, then work the street)... many don't
most cops i know are compassionate. whoever is responsible for the crimes against this man should be punished, and with more than civil penalty imnsho
"we don't consider them cops."
The law does asshole.
You lose.
The taxpayers will be the ones taking that in the shorts to pay for their sadistic cops.
If they shared a common border, they could just merge with Washington State.
If they shared a common border, they could just merge with Washington State
They share a common border with Mexico. That's who they should merge with. New Mexico could use the cachet and street cred. Trust me on this.
Looks like you pre-emptively answered my question. Loltastic!
It is indeed so haha funny that their insurance rates will be through the roof.
Why should an insurance company get to not cover this if the county doesn't have insurance? Pre-existing judgements is not a valid reason to deny coverage.
They have an insurance policy. State and local governments do not self insure.
I'm guessing there's going to be a rate hike after this one?
I think that is a pretty good guess.
in what universe
simply wrong on the facts.
king county, WA (where seattle is) for exampe, self insures
You'll take a check? Hell, I thought you wanted real money.
This is the dumbest jury verdict I've heard about since . . . this morning, when I found out a jury awarded Garth fucking Brooks $500k in punitives because a hospital to which he donated money didn't name some facility after his mom like they said they would.
Breach of contract is srs bznz. If he still gave a shit about his image, he'd donate all of that to some childrens charity, but he doesn't have to. Just go to the mailbox 2x/year for royalty checks.
Garth Brooks owes everybody punitive damages for Friends in Low Places so fuck him. Until I get a check from him, he can piss off.
If you came of age at a certain time, it was a great indicator of when a girl at the club had enough in her to be ready to go. As a nearly non sequiter, fuck line dancing.
AFRTS played that song once an hour for 6 months while we were in country. I hate that song with a passion, along with Bob Seger's Turn The Page.
Mark Chesnutt does a much better version of it, but I still can't stand to listen to it.
Ah yeah. That would be fucking Hell. My memories are mostly of getting drunk in HS and going to the kicker night clubs, hoping that I didn't lose the wingman lottery when there was a table with four girls, 3 of which were wearing Rockies 5 sizes too small and the one hot one in Levis and a tank top.
Squirrel chaser.
Why is it dumb? They agreed to do something when he gave the donation and failed to honor that contract. He's entitled to the money.
His music, on the other hand, sucks bog hairy donkey balls.
He's entitled to his money back. I agree. That's not what punitive damages are. I would think having to give the money back would be a sufficient slap on the wrist for the hospital; taking extra money FROM the hospital to give it to a terrible and terribly rich entertainer seems excessive to me.
punitive damages, by definition, are to PUNISH. therefore, it shouldn't matter that he's rich. it's completely irrelevant. they are not to offer redress/recompense for the victim/plaintiff, they are to PUNISH the respondent.
having to give the money back is hardly much of a slap considering that's what they were obligated to give ANYWAY. the fact that they denied that, and thus he had to take them to court means that an actual slap must necessarily involve something more.
we can argue about the AMOUNT, but whether or not brooks is rich or dirt poor should not play any part whatsoever
bog hairy donkey balls
BLOG BOGGED!
That was meant to read hairy donkey Borg balls.
How is it a dumb jury verdict? I would say $22 million is about right or probably on the light side.
Fuck. I meant to say that what the state did was stupid, and then for some reason my fingers went on auto-pilot and said the complete wrong thing. I completely agree with the jury's verdict here. I stand by my statement that taking half a mil from a hospital, beyond making them give the money back, is excessive.
I would take the money from the hospital and then donate it right back to them writing off on my taxes. That way only uncle Sam pays not the hospital.
And that hospital deserves punitive damages for being stupid. Why would you fuck over a big donor?
Yes, that Garth Brooks verdict is the stupid.
I guess Lucky # Slevin is 22mil.
Or is it an overrated movie? I can't remember.
Dear lord, honey. Lucky #Slevin? You digged deep into the vault for that one.
Vault. Septic tank. It's a matter of semantics, I suppose.
Dig it - you can bet your last money, it's all gonna be a stone gas, honey.
/Don Cornelius
I got dragged to that piece of shit movie by a chick. She was not nearly hot enough to make it worth it. I don't think any woman is hot enough to make it worth it.
I know one that is...
You really need to get over your Sarah Jessica Parker fetish.
That case of beer I plan to drop off in April just turned into a 12-pack.
Dear god, that looks atrocious.
I mean, I pounded her extra angrily afterwards, but it was still not nearly enough.
Twenty fuckin' two MILLION DOLLARS? THAT'S CRAZY!!!
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
PWN'ED!
I'm not saying I would definitely not undergo solitary confinement for a month to get a million dollars, but it wouldn't be an easy decision. Sounds about right to me.
I would do solitary for a month for a million, absolutely.
I would come out smiling. And ripped from doing pushups 16 hours a day.
Sensory deprivation holds no fear for me. I can just talk to the talkback commenters in my head.
it's one thing to opine that you could do x, without having actually experienced it.
kind of like some of the people who claimed that waterboarding wasn't torture and was no big deal changed their minds after experiencing it themselves.
i'd like to think i could do it for a million, too
we both probably could
but saying sensory deprivation doesn't scare you is easy to say if you've never experienced a month of solitary. i haven't, but it could be much worse than either of us suspect
if you knew you were in for it, and most importantly knew it would end, it probably makes it easier.
^this
Lucy is becoming the new Mangu Ward only she kicks you in the nuts like Balko. God what a horrible story.
Yep, I told her - she's received custody of my Balko shout, so:
LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!
PWN'ED!
Lucy has already demonstrated far more gravitas than that other writer ever has.
You leave Mangu Ward alone. But yeah, Lucy is pretty awesome.
OK, so on TNG, Season 2, they made a huge deal about Pulaski (the androidist) coming on board, but Chief O'Brien doesn't even get a fucking mention.
WTF is up with that?
*rabble rabble...rabble?*
He's a fuckin mick, and an obvious play at trying to have another "Scotty". Besides, they didn't even get into distinguishing NCOs until he was on DS9. The whole Chief O'Brian thing was dumb.
Jimbo covers the full range of why O'Brien is unimportant and a waste of time. Plus, he's a mick. Oh wait, we already covered that.
I mean, what's more interesting and exciting than a transporter operator?
I don't even get why they have transporter rooms/pads. They can and do frequently transport people from wherever they are on the ship to someplace else, so what's the fucking pad needed for?
It's called a "cheap set", Jimbo. We could go off on a multi-day tangent on stupid shit in Star Trek, but I have to modify an LRU now.
The same reason they still put traditional helms and compasses on modern ships. Tradition.
Yeah but a helm and compass don't take up a whole room that everybody has to walk to all the time except when the plot doesn't need them to walk there.
It's the site-to-site transpo that is stupid. Pad-to-pad, OK... but if you are just going down to a planet or another ship, what's rebuilding you on the other end?
My excuse is that it is more taxing on the equipment, or something, to beam with only one transporter pad, and most of all when you have to have them beam directly from one place to another. So they can do it, they just don't particularly like to.
This does not explain why, with replicators, DS9 can support a gay Cardassian/ladybug hybrid tailor, however.
In a world with replicators, conspicuous consumption would be based on one-off, antique and handmade items.
L Ron Hubbard?
The pad room could act as a quarantine station, or perhaps be converted to beam cargo/ really fat crew members?
fuck the transporter room.
why are people handing each other data pads when there's a computer available throughout the ship...
So they can read the data. In most cases, the data pads are used by medical personnel or people who do not want the answers to their queries publicized.
i get the pad as an interface...but why do they have to carry them around the ship to hand to someone who needs the data?
"Here Captain, here's that pad with the information you wanted, since you can't be expected to spend 3 seconds picking up your own pad and loading the information."
Sloopy warned me to steer clear of comments so that he could talk about Star Trek.
I see how it is.
[runs away sheepishly]
O'Brien had been on the show since the pilot episode(he's in the helmsman spot on the battle bridge when the Captain Frog surrenders to Q), he just was not given a name in his first appearances.
Does punching a woman in the face after she tells you to stop groping her friend warrant more than misdemeanor battery charges? It doesn't if you are a cop and several witnesses identified you as the groper/face-puncher.
He punched her with a closed fist. What a piece of shit.
"Deputy Love" living up to his name, I guess.
"Hey, baby, wanna get fisted?"
"Get lost, creep!"
*punch*
It would make a decent line in, say, Action Jackson.
decent line...Action Jackson
Error. Error. Does Not Compute.
Sloopy, one of these days, you're gonna really piss me off.
"Barbecue, huh? How do you like your ribs?" KABLOOM
Aw, hell. I loved that movie too.
How do you like your ribs?
DAMMIT EPI
PWN'D
"How much for just one rib?"
Somebody posts the platform shoes with goldfish yesterday and then you come with the "Just one rib" quote.
Can we go ahead and add I'm Gonna Get You, Sucka! to the list of great movies and be done with it?
Can I get a second, please?
"Can you break a $100?"
This thread needs a "Shogun of Harlem" reference or two.
Can I get a "sho 'nuff"?
"Who's the master?"
"Well, well, well. If it ain't the serious, elusive Leroy Green. I've been waiting a long time for this, Leroy. I am sick of hearing these bullshit Superman stories about the - Wassah! - legendary Bruce Leroy catching bullets with his teeth. Catches bullets with his teeth? Nigga please!"
Related!
Aw hell, sloop, now I've got the damned song stuck in my head.
Second!
"Fuck the cup, just pour it in my hands!"
Translation: He's on paid vacation pending a raise.
In the same town: Woman charged with felony battery with a deadly weapon or instrument for hitting someone with a frying pan at the assisted living center where she resides.
One's a felony and one's a misdemeanor, even though he was witnessed groping a woman and assaulting another by several people.
No double-standard, though.
This happened in Harlan County, KY?
http://img96.imageshack.us/img.....eagain.jpg
Agreed!
For teh kittehs!
I don't know, a frying pan can definitely be a deadly weapon. Now if he'd hit her with a glass, that'd be a different story.
No witnesses to the other with multiple ones in the cop's case, and the woman was arrested on the spot. No word that the cop was.
And with multiple witnesses, why was he not charged with sexual assault for the groping? Public drunkenness? Lewdness?...you know, the stuff they overcharge everyone else with when something like this happens to a "citizen."
If we're counting a grope, I've had that done to me in a bar by a cop. I was about to push him off his stool, and he pulled out his damn badge and started waving it around. The cops at the door and the bouncer wouldn't even kick his little drunk ass out. I'd have been doing 5 to 10 if I'd taken matters into my own hands.
waaaaaaaaah!
cool story, bro!
So sorry to bore you. Perhaps you'd like to regall us with more stories of your life that are actually from the movie Point Break?
perhaps you'd like to regale us with more fascinating stories of police misconduct involving coeus, the universal subject of myriad acts of police misconduct
you are like a pig magnet apparently
you are like a pig magnet apparently
1) Several cops continuously fucking with me as a teenager in a small town (pulling me over and making me get out of the car)
2) blocking my apartment a few years ago and unsnapping and screaming at me when I asked what was going on (camly and politely with my hands visible, even).
3) grabbing my ass in a bar last year and using his badge as a shield.
If you think that having 3 examples of police misconduct is so unbelievable that it discounts anything I say, I don't know what to tell you except:
Good luck on getting your head out of your ass, you're gonna need it. That pointy little fucker must be stuck way up in there.
Funny how dunphy's anecdotes are all true but any involving an asshole cop (like there is any other kind) are all subject to ridicule.
Hey dunphy, next time you write about how so may cops are subject to discipline for their misdeeds, I want some links.
Prove it.
Otherwise I will assume it's all bullshit, just as you assume any story by one of us of a cop's misdeeds are bullshit.
Fair is fair.
Besides, you yourself say you are held to a higher standard.
Live up to your own words.
Sarc, did you miss this thread?
http://reason.com/blog/2012/01.....tcontainer
He got called out on that shit all over the place.
oh rillly?
still waiting for an example of a nonconvicted felon noncop getting 23 yrs for an assault charge like the cop did. in WA.
yup. still waiting.
a judge says cops deserve harsher treatment, then gives a cop harsher treatement. and i get evasion and running away from the bigotard
yup. still waiting.
So if we don't have a counter to that one specific sentencing term, you expect us to concede that it goes both ways and is basically equal? Despite the fact that we can (and have) shown hundreds of other incidents with the cop getting off the hook? Why in the flying fuck would anyone concede that?
I'm sure I can find an example of an innocent person getting shot in the head, going to the hospital and having the doctors discover and remove a brain tumor, saving his life. So we should just concede that innocent people getting shot in the head is no big deal, and things always even out?
troll - o - meter : .001
Dude, you're the only one trolling this thread. You've gone completely pants-on-head retarded.
"possession of a stolen vehicle, aggravated driving while under the influence, driving with a suspended license, possession of an open container of alcohol in a vehicle and improper use of registration, according to court records."
Improper use of registration? WTF is that? Did he fold it up into a paper plane or something?
That guy looks like Rasputin.
I was thinking Sasquatch.
After I got my $22 million, I pay for a round of hits for everybody.
It would not even be news if he did not win the court case. To read about current unreported government crimes, search for "New police weapon against homeless" and also "Historic coverup of FBI and police crimes currently taking place". A Masters degree will not protest you from those in power determined to take away your rights.
Are we to assume Mr Slevin was an imminent threat to authorities? Was he a maladjusted prisoner? Or was he simply the victim of a capricious local jail that relished in punishing him and or others like him? Or worse was Mr Slevin a victim of a systematic attitude amongst authorities towards those who find themselves locked up? What then does this suggest about the way crime and punishment is applied? Or is this just a one off case whereby the criminal system would normally work hand in hand with the rights of those incarcerated?
http://scallywagandvagabond.co.....2-million/