Michigan: Perfect Venue for GOP Candidates to Discuss Obama's Past and Future
Editorial cartoonist and Michigan View editor Henry Payne points out today that the Wolverine State is a perfect venue for a GOP presidential debate because from 2003 to 2007 it was a veritable laboratory for President Obama's economic ideas (if you can call them that). During that time, it was governed by Democrat Jennifer Granholm, Obama's intellectual twin.
The similarities between the two are downright eerie: They are both lookers; they are both Harvard trained lawyers; they both promised to transform their moribund economies into meccas of green jobs; they both failed—miserably.
Payne notes:
Before the federally-subsidized Solyndra scandal, there was the scandalous, Michigan-subsidized RASCO fiasco.
Before Obama's $800 billion stimulus there was Granholm's 2006 $2 billion stimulus (It will "create tens of thousands of new jobs. We'll invest. . . public and private funds to develop new sectors of our economy. In five years you'll be blown away," she said).
Before there was a debt ceiling showdown threatening a government shutdown, there was Granholm's 2007 budget showdown that shut down government.
Before Obama's proposed tax hike in the middle of a recession, there was Granholm's 14 percent recession tax hike—all the revenue from which was immediately spent, leading to an even larger $2 billion deficit.
Before Obama's stubborn 9 percent unemployment, there was Granholm's stubborn 11.4 percent unemployment.
Before Standard & Poor's Obama downgrade, ratings services during Granholm's reign downgraded the Wolverine State from "AA? with a stable outlook" to "AA? with a negative outlook."
The RASCO scandal, incidentally, refers to the Granholm administration's decision to shower $9 million in tax credits on a company whose website showed that it had no employees when it filed its application—or four quarters prior to that. Why did it get the credits? Presumably, because it's name, Renewable and Sustainable Companies LLC, included the words "renewable" and "sustainable." Oh, and it promised to create 1,813 jobs in Michigan by the year 2016 and pump $22.7 million into state coffers, almost giving the Granholm administration an orgasm, no doubt.
The only problem was that when RASCO's application was granted, its CEO Richard Short, a convicted embezzler, was out on parole trying to, yet again, scam thousands of dollars from an 86-year-old Flint woman with dementia. Two days after Short shared a stage with Gov. Jennifer Granholm, he was arrested for parole violations.
None of this stopped Granholm from snagging a nice faculty position at University of California, Berkeley, and become a talking head on David Gregory's Meet the Press.
Perhaps she can give Obama a recommendation after he exits the White House, hopefully next year.
Editor's Note: As of February 29, 2024, commenting privileges on reason.com posts are limited to Reason Plus subscribers. Past commenters are grandfathered in for a temporary period. Subscribe here to preserve your ability to comment. Your Reason Plus subscription also gives you an ad-free version of reason.com, along with full access to the digital edition and archives of Reason magazine. We request that comments be civil and on-topic. We do not moderate or assume any responsibility for comments, which are owned by the readers who post them. Comments do not represent the views of reason.com or Reason Foundation. We reserve the right to delete any comment and ban commenters for any reason at any time. Comments may only be edited within 5 minutes of posting. Report abuses.
Please
to post comments
There you go confusing folks with facts. Quit it, quit it. (Holding hands over years, eyes closed) blah, blah, blah, blah, blah....Obama is the saviour, Obama, Obama, Obama...
\HEAVY Snark\
There you go confusing folks with "Diseases of Civilization" facts. Quit it, quit it. (Holding hands over years, eyes closed) blah, blah, blah, blah, blah....civilization is the savior, city-State (civilization), city-State (civilization), city-State (civilization)...
\HEAVY Snark\
...living in the grip of Satan's nasty, brutish, and short living.
How do dolphins, crows, squirrels, and elephants escape Satan's grasp, anywho?
OT: http://www.gamespot.com/video/.....ls-6344312
Awesome trollolol
Can't wait for the Wii version of the new game. When's it coming out, anyway?
I believe release date for all consoles is 11/11. Good old Armistice Day.
Yes because 11?11?11 looks really cool in the trailers.
Thieving bitches!
The elaborate staging of murder to make it look like the victim died while having sex with corn is absolutely hilarious. Considering I've only recently gotten addicted to Oblivion, I'll have to spend some time doing that tonight (after completing the last mission of Knights of the Nine since if my infamy goes up I can weild the appropriate gear anymore).
Oblivion was great in so many ways, but I couldn't get over several major issues, from the Satanically awful 3rd-person animations to the low gear variety to how obvious the highly unrealistic smallness of scale turned out. But it was a really good game.
I hope Skyrim kicks the living shit out of all its predecessors in every possible aspect.
But one thing remains certain -- I'm pissed that neither Dragon Age game (which I've yet to play), nor Oblivion, featured cloaks. What the fuck, man? It's high fantasy: CLOAKS ARE MANDATORY.
Oblivion had better written quests. I cared about my character, and roleplaying them, more in Morrowind.
I custom made a Redguard Kensai(long blade, medium armor, alteration, restoration, armorer,... can't remember minor skills, destruction might have been in there). I played it straight... warrior's nobility, etc. To put it this way: I joined the Tribunal- the first quest was to visit the shrines of various saints. I read the book for the religions, and was inspired. I did the whole pilgrimage with my in game character... sans shoes. There was no reason to go barefoot, no in game reward, but I wanted to do it as a character moment.
I never felt that way in Oblivion, so I hope they recapture it.
I only discovered the series a month ago when I got a sudden urge to rekindle my love for high fantasy. Having no frame of referenced for Morrowind, I must say that your analysis strikes me as pretty solid here. My character itself I find I'm not too beholden to (Dunmer, sign of the Thief, major skills in all the destruction, conjuration, alteration, etc.), but the quests themselves are superb. I've found myself more interested in the well-being of NPCs like those that join my Knights of the Nine that I make sure to complete quests without any of them dying (and many a save and reload necessary to do that since they charge in to fight with reckless abandon).
I gave a shit about the Theives Guild, but why is the writing for the Fighters Guild never interesting?
I also would like, "You can't advance in this guild without certain skills" from Morrowind. Also, Houses. Those were cool, especially because they
...made you choose.
Played Morrowind as a customized Scout. Forget some class details, but archery, light armor, the walk silently ability, back stab, long blade and athletics were my strengths, with no magics. By two thirds the way through the main quest I was backstabbing and killing Golden Saints and the Ascended Sleepers with one blow. I explored every where before i took any missions.
With high athletics, I loved jumping around the city of Baramora.
I have dragon age origins, but have yet to even put it on. I ordered Oblivion and DA:O at the same time about a month ago and started with Oblivion first. I probably should've gone the other way since Oblivion is such a massive open-ended behemouth that I've barely even cracked into the main story quests as I've been too busy with the Knights of the Nine expansion, dark brotherhood quests, and various other side quests.
I haven't played yet, but Origins is supposed to be pretty enormous, and the way Bioware constructed the world makes it feel a lot more open than it actually is (it's a modular game, like Neverwinter Nights).
Also, one of the main pluses of Oblivion is the mind-numbingly enormous modding community and selection of mods. Everything from armor sets to improved combat animations to custom castles. I'm probably going to order another copy of the game just to tap all that goodness.
The modding community is why you always buy TES for PC if you can.
Butting in to say that Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age II are both utter shit.
Clarify
Fail. Even if you think DA:O is shit (which is strange), saying that fails to convey how much more shit Dragon Age II is.
Hardly surprising.
Soviets were city-State (civilization) apologists too, killing off the reindeer herders in Siberia.
You can't have a debate there -- Ron Paul would contaminate it with the taint of libertarianism, and we can't have one of Dear Leader's life spots going down in flames like that!
Bolshevik Revolution
Babydoktor Revolution
50 years, any difference?
"hopefully next year"?
Going all-in on the GOP before they even have a nominee, eh, Shikha? What if it's Santorum? Murtha's economic policy plus Franco-era Spain's social policy. Wonderful.
Holy Cow, that is the best description of Santorum I've ever heard. I will steal it with glee. Well maybe not with glee, cause that's about all teh ghey kidz and that would make Santorum upset.
Anyone willing to vote for Obama to be re-elected in '12 -- over ANY conceivable opposing candidate -- simply isn't paying attention.
... isn't paying attention to the voices inside their head telling them to make a mask out of their neighbor's flayed face.
Fuck you Obama! Don't you dare mock The Jacket!
Read any history?
This is why you don't have sex with Warty.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-50.....e1.channel
"Sex with animals?!? There's no time, man!"
Don't be scared of my tumors, brah. Some of them function as penises, after all.
They are both lookers
Uhh...what? Granholm looks like some sort of rodent.
She's like an old Tracy Flick with short hair.
And a rodent face.
So who is Matthew Broderick?
Kucinich?
Nah. More like Pelosi?
Heh. 🙂
Unofficial debate thread?
What's with you and unofficial debate threads? We're all looking to you to certify a thread for debate shenanigans.
Excellent. 🙂
I'm a man of the people, that's why.
You know who else was a man of the people?
Frankly, great men don't go searching for black market debate threads. Giants such as us forge their own.
Consider it forged, in that case. Except if this shit isn't online, I'm not watching it.
"You know who else was a man of the people?"
The Human Centipede?
Yep.
You two aren't allowed to answer "you know who else" questions anymore.
"Two days after Short shared a stage with Gov. Jennifer Granholm, he was arrested for parole violations."
The Onion took over Reason's website!
This guy's name was Short, Dick? And he "embezzled" 86 y.o. ladies with dementia?
Tell me you're fucking me. You have to be fucking me!
This guy's name was Short, Dick? And he "embezzled" 86 y.o. ladies with dementia?
Tell me you're fucking me. You have to be fucking me!
Is there are place to watch this online? I'm not seeing anything on cnbc.com.
Cool another debate. I wonder how Perry will self-destruct this time.
By showing up.
We will, we will, rock you!
Did everyone hear that phat beat they laid down to open the show. I was expecting Cain to bust a rhyme. No racist.
It sounds like they're using canned applause for this.
Santorum looks a lot like Bachman Hess days. New campaign ploy?
These, not Hess.
Huntsman? Who let you in?
How will you quarantine Italy?
A dollar must be a dollar, which is just like...time keeping.
Also, STOP time inflation! An hour today is only 48 minutes long! In 1955, an hour contained 65 minutes!
"Europe is able to take care of their own problems."
Tell that to Churchill.
So, I'm just posting this here cuz I know I'll get responses:
My computer is as follows...
4GB RAM
Intel I3 processor
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4300 series (512 MB)
From all I've read, I can play Skyrim, but I am super paranoid, especially given that it's a laptop.
So, I can, right? Otherwise, I need to order 360 with release day delivery.
Seriously, motherfucker, take a goddamn minute and help a brotha out.
Dude, if you can play it on an Xbox, you can play it on that laptop. The one I'm on right now is only a little better in specs, and it plays modern stuff just fine. Worst case scenario, you have to move some graphics sliders down.
Thanks, I'm just paranoid.
just input the game title on srtest.com, and it will tell you if those specs will run the game.
OMG Jim Cramer is allowed to be a moderator? And he won't stop yelling even when it's not appropriate?
you know, CNBC had been pimping those pot-porn specials with names like "Pot, Inc." and "Marijuana USA" and "Cannabusiness" (those aren't the exact names but they're close; look it up).
But if they really wanted to use the sacred herb to get some ratings, they could always just invite a certain DOPE-ASS MOTHAFUCKA to play in their goddamn reindeer games!
'nah-meen?
Maybe they should require Brother Johnson to smoke 420 while answering policy questions. His rhetorical skills couldn't possibly be any worse.
So that's actually Cramer's default setting? Screaming?
Why is CNBC highlighting Jim Kramer as a "great mind"? Is it a bizarre form of sarcasm?
It's like the bottom 20% of your high school class thinking the guy in the bottom 30% is a genius.
Cramer...armageddon!!!!...no debt can ever be liquidated without disaster!!!
Dumb ass.
Gov. Huntsman, please define "properly sized".
Put banks on a diet.
HAHAHA GREAT question!
"Mitt, why are you such a duplicitous douche?"
I am not a 'duplicitous douche'. I value one, and only one thing: to be POTUS. If you elect me you'll see what I'm all about.
Waffler-in-Chief!
Do those trained seals clap equally for everyone, for every answer?
Dig at Newt. "I've been married to one chick for longer than six weeks".
Mitt Romney: Stagnant and loving it!
Rick Perry is telling you just how great America can zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Perry looks like Droopy Dog.
and yet I want to teh Sexxy to him.
Is that so wrong?
So Italy is too big? Does he want Naples to go independent?
Borgia 2012! Vote for the moderate evil!
The Catholic Church thought Italy should be kept in small pieces.
And now they touch little kids. So how'd THAT work out for them! PWND!
They're into small pieces, NTTAWWT.
Speaking of Italy (if you consider Sicily to be a part there of) I am reminded of this fantastic sentence by Truman Capote from Answered Prayers.
*Posted with no point in mind.
Off I went to the bathroom, stretched out in the cold dry bathtub and, thinking the thoughts necessary to me (just as Miss Langman, in the private quietude beneath her public turbulence, had been absorbed in hers: recalling? a girlhood? overly effective glimpses of the Reverend Billy? naked except for his shirt and socks? or a honeyed womanly tongue lollipopping away some wintry afternoon? or a pasta-bellied whale-whanged wop picked up in Palermo and hog-fucked a hot Sicilian infinity ago?), masturbated.
Bernanke thinks unemployment is a disaster? Then why did he cause it?
Newt Gingrich: Bernanke hunter
Perry would do better with me by starting a serious answer, then just suddenly yelling "TEXAS A&M FOOTBALL RULES!", spiking his microphone to the ground, and walking off stage.
That would be awesome.
That would actually be awesome.
"Steve Holt!"
Aww, Perry. You're actually making me feel bad for you. You did not even graze that question with whatever you just said.
Michele Bachmann:
"I would create jobs by instituting absolute Biblical rule, enforced by the death penalty for apostasy".
(what liberals hear)
Miriam Godwinson FTW.
Bachmann is out of uniform. Did the Navy discharge her?
discharged as Seamen First Class.
I see what you did there.
*sigh* I defended her at first, but her jobs answer amounted to "immigrants take jobs".
Bitch.
Santorum's still here?
"A Vote for Santorum is a Vote for Siemens!"
What's with the idiotic tweets scrolling the bottom of the screen?
The American people deserve better than to have the American people judge their potential president.
We're not putting you on trial in the court of public opinion, we're putting you on trial in the court of pubic opinion.
Is Ron Paul even there?
He actually got a early question this time. And in all seriousness a Kramer / Paul debate would be worthwhile on its own merits.
Does it end with Kramer dead?
We're choosing questions by a round of applause now.
Please god somebody say, "regulatory capture" here. Explain it to these idiots.
Huntsman is going to be president of the 110%!
OT:
"NY Candidate votes, then delivers baby at polling place"
http://news.yahoo.com/ny-candi.....38319.html
Candidates can't be hanging around polling place. Arrest him.
Huntsman is just too boring. It's like Fred Rogers is running for president. He's boring Mitt Romney.
His reelection ad would be, "It's a wonderful day in America!"
Re-organization of the auto industry? So the autoworkers union no longer exists?
The first person to pop Jim Kramer in the mouth wins the debate.
Can we replace Mitt Romney with Bruce Campbell?
+1
This is a quote fest waiting to happen, but "Let me show you my...108 point economic plan" has no ring to it.
How come you didn't keep any of your campaign promises, Bruce?
"That's just what we call pillow talk, baby!"
"Good... Bad... I'm the guy with the veto pen."
groovy
I want to make American businesses, like Amazon, successful and thrive! I will do this by forcing them to collect additional sales taxes.
Mitt Romeny actually understands what profit is. (golf clap)
"Open for business agin. "
Perry--Box of rocks.
Those are mighty bold words Newt, coming from someone IN THE 1%!!!
Newt Gingrich waits to his second question to go after the media.
Newt ingratiating himself with the media...nice!
I'm just starting, I'm assuming Kramer's microphone is designed to work the exact opposite way a microphone usually works
I probably don't have the authority, but I'm declaring this a threadwinner anyway.
Will somebody please ask Mitt about the importance of his Scientologist faith to his election chances?
So Santorum, Gingrich and Hunstman have all already had two questions to Paul's one?
It's not a competition, man. Oh, wait...
Santorum matched his tie to the background? Pretty gay, if you ask me.
Detroit, Michigan. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Hey! I work there. Them's fighting words. Somewhat true, but nonetheless...
sloopyinca and I, we soul-brotherz.
Death of the US Tax Code gets a smattering of applause.
Haha he's black and he said, "Webster".
That yellow tie reminds me of the time Herman Cain asked my wife if he could pee on her.
Well, don't leave us hanging. What did she say?
Being diabetic, she quickly identified him as being in ketosis.
Did Cain just say "sneak attaxes"?
That's worth repeating..."Sneak Attaxes".
The people will hold politicians accountable?!?! WHAT THE FUCK UNIVERSE DOES HE LIVE IN!!!
Lovin. the. bangs. Mitt! Is he running for president for auditioning for a 21 Jump Street reboot?
"Our precious dollars" = "our precious bodily fluids".
This is egregious. Paul's had one question. And this is an economy discussion.
fuck you Maria
sorry, that was not for you Amerifuntimes.
Mitt Romney: Tax Pragmatist
Is Ron Paul still there?
Nah he donned his cape to go fed hunting
Why are you idiots watching a political debate?
Morbo: Morbo will now introduce the candidates - Puny Human Number One, Puny Human Number Two, and Morbo's good friend Richard Nixon.
Richard Nixon's Head: How's the family, Morbo?
Morbo: Belligerent and numerous!
Because the hockey games tonight are shit.
Mostly for the lulz.
You want lulz? If you've got Netflix, watch Season 1 Episode 10 of "Family Ties" and let the hate flow through you.
Or Murphy Brown where she realizes she's not at liberal as she thought she was.
Alex P. Keaton (almost?) loses his virginity after attending a Milton Friedman lecture with a college girl. True fact.
You mean Milton Keynes. Milton Friedman is a city in Buckinghamshir in England.
They haven't shown RP yet. I HAVE NOT YET SEEN THE MAN. EVEN IN THE GROUP SHOTS.
Jesus Santorum has a punchable face. I....I would really like to punch Rick Santorum's face.
OOooh! There he is!
Freedom isn't free? Free is right there in the word.
It costs 2 happy meals, which Ron Paul just explained will cost 4000 times more than normal in about 2 weeks
Ron Paul, wake up!
Maria Bartiromo's head was about to explode.
Same exact thought.
That's because her cherished belief in the power of the federal masters of the universe is being challenged by an OB/GYN
How much would I pay to be M. Bartiromo's OB/GYN?
Oodles. I might also prescribe a lot of routine visits. Err on the side of caution, you know. She deserves the best available care.
Too bad it didn't and too bad only 5 people watching the debate know what the M1 is
That's a tank or something, right?
BMW definitely BMW
I resent that. The problems with our economy CAN be solved in 20 minutes. What the shit kind of defeatist attitude is that?
Bachmann is wandering off the stage. "So long, dicks!"
RP is coming off like he's lost his meds. Weird sentences, man. If you're a wordsmith, feel free to go Yoda on us, but, damn Ron. You should probably stick to subject/predicate forms.
Not a good s
Not a good speaker Paul is
Ooooh. See how you failed there?
See that? I do. Failer.
Internet stutter
Maria B is an idiot who clearly understand nothing about finance.
Still, I want to be her OB/GYN. This is my dream.
Wait, did Bachmann say "General Axlerod?"
Must be getting ready for the Army Navy Game.
So what did CNBC do with the +$1M MF Global gave them? Maria?
^^Exactly
It's probably a bad sign that I was disappointed that the commercials ended.
"Most economists agree..."
Where were all your cherished brain trusts leading up to the housing bust?
Gingrich's "All this has happened before, and all of it will happen again" smirk is going to start being a liability if he ever weasels his way into serious candidate territory.
Gingrich is the only one who can lead us to Earth, escaping from ROMNIAC, who has become self-aware.
Applause for the 30 second limit.
"Anti housing loan"?
New rules to "encourage" banks to make it artificially profitable to short-sell?
WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF ECONOMIC "CONSERVATIVE" ARE YOU?
Warty|11.9.11 @ 8:35PM|#
"Why are you idiots watching a political debate?"
Good question. Hey, Miami leads Temple! Right, Jacket?
Eddie Murphy quit the Oscars and these clowns are talking about the economy?
Maria just SMOLDERS that look into the cam!
I'm sexually aroused during a Team Red presidential debate.
And I'm not alone. Romney just locker room junk-checked Newt. Newt was just junk-checked.
Treatin' that podium like a urinal.
I'm with you. I'd definitely do her, doggy-style, with The Road to Serfdom open on her back so I can read it to her in time with my thrusts.
I'm now sexually aroused by you. I'm going to assume that you're a chick with a strap-on fetish who also likes getting reamed and not a dude? NTTATWWT.
Check.
Sorry, but I DID grow up near Evansville, so you know, there's that.
So you're telling me there's a chance!
You should read her Mises's Theory of Money and Credit...
Romney just got out of the pool and is feeling feisty.
Throwing Romney unbelieveable softballs. Also, he's a fucking liar.
I'll vote for the first person on that stage that looks into the cameara and tells America to suck it up and let and the housing market fix itself.
I'm glad Romeny asked the bald guy what he would do since really, what can government do that won't frak up things worse?
I think Perry should incorporate a lip curl into his routine. It would undoubtedly serve him better than his usual jumbled collection of words.
What if the regulation is a net zero for jobs? Loophole!
THEY PICKED UP THEIR BONUSES ABOARD CORPORATE JETS TOO
GOTCHA QUESTION!
I desperately want to see Newt reach below the podium, and pull out a self-made device consisting of a strap and a dildo that fits onto his forehead, and not say a word to anybody about it. Just continue on with the debate like nothing's happening.
I loled.
*magestically gambols across the dais*
*gambols majestically across the dais*
God SOD, I hate Shit Flopney! Pardon me whilst I puke...
Maria can go eat a bag of dicks.
My feathers. You'll see.
those gd gses
Even by the lackluster standards of these debates, this questions are pretty dumb. To wit, they're making this crop of candidates look good.
Seriously. The answer to every fucking question has been, "get the gov't out of the way", with some small tweak or caveat. The candidates aren't disagreeing with eachother on anything. You could elect any of them based on these answers and it would be the same.
get it out of the way too?
"I will deal with Freddie and Fannie. Enough said."
Sounds like a Chicago deal...
Some sort of BREAKING UP THE BANKS.
John huntsman wants to standard oil the banks.
I wonder why these financial experts never ask these types of questions of the current administration?
You could elect any of them based on these answers and it would be the same.
Great. Shoot me now before Europe implodes.
Sure hope Ron has a newspaper or paperback.
So he can swat Maria on the nose for making a mess on the carpet?
Huntman's found his Teddy the Trustbuster hat.
(here's the problem - Teddy never wins)
Perry: no one in Texas will get hurt reforming medicare.
Rick Perry, pro super big state governments
Romney reaction shots always make it look like he can't believe what the other idiots are saying.
As much as I loathe the man, Romney looks like a president in a movie. Perfect face for it. Almost as good as Han Solo in Airforce One.
No, that guy in Clear and Present Danger was the best movie president.
President Camacho is my President.
Libertarian Prez is finally in the house.
President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho
Like him here:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/.....73?sk=wall
Ooooooh, interesting opinion.
Very interesting. He IS perfect.
If only we could transplant Ron Paul's brain into his body.
Princess Nancy joke line.
That's a reference to "The Princess and the Frog", which is the only Disney movie involving a black princess.
He drags his race into everything.
Wasn't there a Princess Jemima in "Song Of The South?"
ROMNEYCARE
Wow, the balls on Romney to say get the market into health care
They are rather distended.
And Romney takes a dig at Ron Paul while attempting to co-opt his message. Solid 8 on the Ass-hole Scale.
Newt will definitely get the 'The Media is a Liberal snake pit" vote.
So he can swat Maria on the nose for making a mess on the carpet?
Nope, to smack her on the ass for making a peep while ironing his shit.
*lifted eyebrow*
*BDSM* roleplay
Gingrich: look, you ridiculous bitch!
"Maria, you ignorant slut..."
"newt you magnificent bastard...I read your book"
Nuke tits really is debating the moderators. Wow!
She called his bluff.
That was a BEAUTIFUL Newt/Maria exchange.
Throw a fuck in that. MMMMMMMM!
GET YOUR LAWS OFF MY BRAIN, NEWT
Have you considered looking into rocket surgery instead of brain science, Newt?
Romney reaction shots always make it look like he can't believe what the other idiots are saying.
Because he thought of them first, but wasn't stoopid enough to say them. He's a walking waffle iron.
Senator Santorum, how do you achieve and maintain your frothiness?
What have you done for us lately, Rick?
Throw a fuck in that. MMMMMMMM!
MY EYES!!!!!!
The goggles do nothing!
'I, I, I'...Santorum is like Obama...he's so impressed with himself.
Seriously. He told a whole story about how some dude in Scranton apologized to him and told him he'd been right all along, and everyone else is wrong. Sheeeit.
Atleast he hasn't referred to himself in the third person....
he's submissive in many other ways
Rick Santorum: Ineffectual persuader.
Collapse. 2050. You die, your fault.
Santorum: people from Scranton are stupid
Bachmann will stop state insurance monopolies, with what, an unconstitutional mandate?
Senator Santorum, how do you achieve and maintain your frothiness?
Add Salty Ham Tears and an Eye of Newt. Shake well and pour over ice.
HAHAHA at Santorum while Romney says free markets work in healthcare.
Why did Romney get a chance to repeat his answer?
Twice.
Why the shit is Romney getting more air time? Just because he fucked up Massachusetts?
HAHAHAHA
Romney, in a health-care related question:
"I believe in markets..."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
If Mitt could roll those suit sleeves up and really start a rap session here, he would.
Why the shit is Romney getting more air time? Just because he fucked up Massachusetts?
Because he looked so good doing it. He's the Breck Girl of this debate.
Although it looks like he had to use VO5 on his hair tonight.
hairspray is in the house
I HATE SHIT FLOPNEY!!!!!!!!!!! LYING MOTHERFUCKING ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!
yes, but how do you feel about Romney? 😉
Shush that's no way to talk to the future GOP nominee....
Please please please please please please please SOMEBODY point out that "cutting the rate of increase" is NOT THE SAME FUCKING THING as "cutting the deficit".
Although it looks like he had to use VO5 on his hair tonight.
Richard Greico was booked.
Romney has to have something seriously dirty on EVERYONE in DC.
He can be so easily NAILED by RomneyCare, and yet no one really calls him out on it.
Why? I don't get it. Team Red just thinks he has the best chance of winning and the other candidates are groomed to NOT call him out on it? That's about the only thing that makes sense to me.
That's pretty much it. TEAM RED does not give a shit about this nation, or improving anything. They care about opposing TEAM BLUE and taking and wielding power. That is all. If something which aids that objective happens to also help us, then great. If not, then STFU.
Even my dogs are sick of the shit pouring out of the TV. They're both laying as far away as possible with their asses pointed towards the screen.
Mines vomited thrice
yes, but how do you feel about Romney? 😉
Grrrrrrrrrr! >:^(
I'm about to pull a Sandi myself
my classmate's mother makes $87 every hour on the computer. She has been without work for 7 months but last month her income was $7500 just working on the computer for a few hours. Go to this site smrls.tk/5J
TOO MANY COMMERCIALS. I'm losing interest, CNBC.
my classmate's mother makes $87 every hour on the computer. She has been without work for 7 months but last month her income was $7500 just working on the computer for a few hours. Go to this site ufil.ms/h914X
pedro stuart
Orated Spurt
Adopters Rut
Raped Tutors
Raped Trouts
Pastured Tor
Retard Spout
Retard Stoup
Retard Pouts
Praetor Stud
Stature Drop
Tarot Prudes
Tsar Trouped
A Rutted Pros
Aped Rot Rust
Retard Top Us
Retard So Put
Retard Sot Up
Retard To Pus
Retard To Sup
Retard To Ups
In your pants!
WI. Pants? WTF?
Shush that's no way to talk to the future GOP nominee....
If I ever see you in the hospital, you're getting a permanent catheter!
The American people are way too polite. There's this restrained atmosphere while all these candidates spout nonsense and utter bullshit. Why can't an anchor or something just say, "Look, you're just lying. Fuck you, please leave."
Way too polite?
Weird.
Oh wait, you are libertarian.
LOLOLOL
The American people are way too polite. There's this restrained atmosphere while all these candidates spout nonsense and utter bullshit. Why can't an anchor or something just say, "Look, you're just lying. Fuck you, please leave."
"Be specific please."
I will prepare myself for no such thing.
He can be so easily NAILED by RomneyCare, and yet no one really calls him out on it.
Has it occurred to you that the others have no intention of "fixing" ObamneyCare?
Seems to me there is indeed more political capital in abolishing it.
Not that I expect honesty from these shit weasels.
He also expects US to get nailed by ObamneyCare and call one out TO him!
"Thank you Flop! May I have another?!"
Oberhelman gets a dramatic flourish?
Rick Santorum: our generation's Pat Buchanan, but war-hungry.
Go go robot romney sports metaphor
"I don't care if the Wall Street Journal doesn't like that I'm picking one industry over another..."
Not just the WSJ, asshole. Anyone who claims to be a conservative should hang you from a lamp-post for that.
This is a time to worry about that mole on America's shoulder.
This deli slicer should do the trick
Romney can win in an 85% democrat state because...oh, I don't know, his policies are wholly indistinguishable from democratic policies?
Romney criticizing Obama for being in permanent campaign mode.
Douche.
oh eff
Perrrrrry. Whaaaaaaat
Perry, you ignorant slut.
Ouch, Perry. Ouch. Political fail.
Wow, Perry. Just wow.
Oh my God. Perry.
Perry...O.M.G
He should have just made up a department. That was stunning.
holy
crap
that was excruciating
he actually had a really good answer going.
Perry...stop. Just stop. The answer even started with an "E". And you came up with EPA.
The next thirty minutes is spent watching Perry think up that third agency.
Haha he's black and he said, "the back door".
thank you, Peter Griffin.
Cain is entertaining.
WI can herd cats. Into one, single, dubble-stoopid thread.
Am I free to Gambol about the wolf dream?
As long as that crazy guy who kills the wolves isn't there.
*PIC PERRY FAIL!
Rick, wanna buy a vowel?
That reminds me; how come no single candidate has raised the spectre of "gambol lockdown"?
The recession gets just a little better and Newt is all over raising taxes on working Americans.
"That's no mole...."
Holy shit, he called SS a "debt" we owe to everyone who's "paid in".
THERE IS NO TRUST FUND YOU SHIT!!!
It's a lock box.
civilization is a prison
Bachmann wasn't listening. Gingrich just explained that there's no such thing as a Social Security trust fund.
Bachman Barbie says taxes are hard!
How have we gotten to a point where what's happening on my tv screen is just par for the course? That 99% bullshit is just how stuff is? ughhhhhhh Romney how can you sleep at night
It's a lock box.
Is that why you and Tipper Poo went Splitsville, Al?
He's a man, and he told a woman to shut up.
PATRIARCHY!
And it still wouldn't be OK if Maria had told her to shut up, because that just means Maria has internalized her oppression.
...and you're almost there
...Also, rape culture.
INTRISICALLY PATERNALISITIC!
ughhhhhhh Romney how can you sleep at night
Propofol. He needs to up his dose significantly.
And Huntsman endorses The Wall Street Journal.
WI sez so
Who the fuck was interrupting Huntsman and what were they saying?
Moderator trying to tell him his time was up, and move on to the next questioner.
"Max von Raaphorst"? I hope that IMMIGRANT isn't getting in-state tuition!
I am the 99%.
you're a pissant libertard
PATRIARCHY!
"Iron my shit Maria!"
Is that a weird kink, having flat shit? What do you do with the peanuts?
Is SugarFree aware of this?
Well, pilgrim ...only after you...eat the peanuts out of my shit!
Wait, education is a commodity like anything else? Who the fuck's this old guy and why is he making so much sense on education?
to slavers
Only Newt can take a good answer and sound like an asshole.
^^Why he makes a better speaker than candidate.
WI can do it, right into this thread.
And they're as useless.
OMG, she's making Perry list things.
Haha they asked Perry to give another list. And he answers, "Well all of those".
Basically just "yeah, what you said".
Perry *is* the guy who will read any old thing on the teleprompter.
What the hell was Perry talking about with a blended program?
He was getting it confused with the type of drinks he had backstage.
Girl drink drunk.
YES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_H_sVNgvf4
I can't believe you remembered that. I hadn't thought of that in a decade at least.
stay right here on this thread
LOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOL
Thank you governor Perry. We'll see you next in the election for the governor of Mars.
Is that a weird kink, having flat shit? What do you do with the peanuts?
It's caused by a peanut allergy, cause the bowels to clamp up like a steal trap.
Is SugarFree aware of this?
"Knock, knock! Who's there? HIPAA! (silence)"
Who the fuck's this old guy and why is he making so much sense on education?
"Pay him no mind, he's on the sauce again..."
He's crazy because he can't afford his medication because of AUSTERITY MEDICARE ZOMG!!!
What the hell was that dark cloud falling over Cain during his 9-9-9 nonsense?
Cats.
WI herding cats.
Right into this thread.
Gambol on.
This is as much fun as domesticated poodles are capable of feeling.
We'll see you next in the election for the governor of Mars.
He will fit in well with the other mutants.
"I've got FIVE kids to feed!"
You can't "level the playing field" between the US and Commie China with the tax code. Not on apples to apples shit.
And Romney to his credit says so.
and then he panders.
99% or so.
Mitt: China is cheating! "Predatory pricing" = selling Americans things for cheap. How DARE they give us more value!
"Mitt Romney you are incorrect: There is a short answer to that question. It is 3 words. Those words are Nine, Nine, Nine."
The Chinamen are faking our hockey jerseys!
China's takin our jerbs. Who gives a flying fuck whether China's "stealing" IP and using mickey mouse's image on decorative plates. Let disney work it out.
The chinks are stealing our jobz!
I hate you so much I'll thread this comment. Shit Flopney? Meet the stairwell! (kicks Shit down the stairs)
YELLOW PERIL!
Romney just endorsed tariffs against China, and then actually managed to say "Free Market" IN THE SAME DAMN SENTENCE. JESUS CHRIST.
he's learned your tolerance for contradictions
Um......yeaaaaaaaaah......that's what it is.....
Um......yeaaaaaaaaah......that's what it is.....
Our firms aren't being allowed to exercise their "right" to sell to the Chinese? What is this, fucking 1900? Are they advocating a new "Open-Door Policy"?
Are we going to fight a new Opium War?
Don't we already have one of those?
in addiction libertarianism
30 seconds to complain about the 30 seconds.
Huntsman is soooooooooo
ooooooo
oooooooo
bland. "Thirty seconds?! Dang nab it!"
^^exactly
The Chinaman is not the issue here.
Nice mix-match of Goodman roles.
Also, Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian American, Dude.
YES ROMNEY IS PANDERING
YES HE'S FUCKING PANDERING.
Romney is 25 years old? He can't be president!
High School Hair.
city statist do that
China is trying to employ its 2 BILLION PEOPLE..I don;t think they are going to plan to raise prices on plastic shit we import. With all due respect to Mr. Romney's lifetime in business.
just like a libertard
"PANDER ON!"
ZOMG they have AN aircraft carrier! America is in danger of being destroyed!
eat pine nuts or die in 90 days
Bachmann takes one or two sort of true facts, and spins them into a marvelous tapestry of fear.
What is 333 plus 666?
And I'm sorry: Bachmann's hot. Not Palin hot. But I approve. I bet she's NUTS to fuck.
she's hot
she just can't run more than a house
like any woman
or any man
She's only "hot" by the standards of politics. She'd never make it in an actual hot-chix magazine like Maxim or something.
I mean, I wouldn't kick her out of bed, but I wouldn't look twice at her on the street or anything.
Actually, I take that back. I would kick her out of bed, because apparently she has 999 kids or something like that, so she must get preggers if you so much as look at her cross-eyed. That I don't need.
She adopted most of those. For the over 50 mom class she is about as good as it gets I suppose. She is a decent looking woman. But you are right, she only looks hot because most politicians are so ugly. I mean her competition is people like Debbie Wasserman Shultz and Nancy Pelosi.
Think about how she must have looked when she was 20something. I bet we'd approve.
Yeah, but are you guys familiar with coyote-hot?
That's when, in the morning, you chew off your arm that's under her head to get out of there before she wakes up and opens her mouth.
Huh. That seems like a strange practice.
I would hurt my member banging against her colon. Yeah, I went there.
Why isn't she wearing her Navy uniform again?
Panders are not those cute, cuddly bears in China.
Cause of morons like Cramer making hustling bad advice on tv.
Bachmann takes one or two sort of true facts, and spins them into a marvelous tapestry of fear.
It's the Botox.
civilization collapses faster
Nasty. Brutish. Short.
Before the benevolent city-STATE.
science, anthropology, biology
shit, hurl some creationist shit his way
Did Perry just reboot in the middle of that sentence? Is he an earlier prototype of ROMNIAC?
Kramer wants everyone to win all the time in the stock market.
Other people just want to make friends.
Ron Paul isn't paying attention to his own governor?
...anywhere. ~RAW
We try to pretend he ( isn't there
We try to pretend WI isn't here
I bet she's NUTS to fuck.
She is the OG Woman Who Lived in a Shoe. BOIIIIIIIIII!
Jim Cramer=corny capitalism
works like WYSIWYG communism
Judge them equally.
corny. joke. haha.
Ron Paul isn't paying attention to his own governor?
Nobody does. It's how TX succeeded in spite of Perry.
No final question for Santorum. I guess we all know that Rick Santorum will never be president unless the Cylons take out everyone else.
They're only halfway there.
Well that was an exercise in utter futility.
come on, cats, gotcha herded here, let's get some numbers for Reason advertisers
really
Who won?
Da Bears.
These debates are the erectile dysfunction of politics.
Only Ron Paul can prescribe the blue pill.
WI approves
I love Ron Paul. Cute as a button
keep posting.
jeesh.
cum on.
WI is a Soros funded genius.
Really.
That way we don't have to consider how inferior of competitors we libertarians have become online.
write something smart, instead of stupid. WRITE!
~White Indian
sitting all naked, alone in my mom's basement or a mental hospital, which ever makes you feel better, libertard.
just managed
sort of like in your glorious corporations
freedom fries free to non-complainers
have a KOCH and a smile
you're free to POST too. POST. jeesh, come on!!!!!!
Use it.
Use it? Shoot!
Ameritard
Remember folks, vermin food means vermin shit.
That's all.
we appreciate your guidance in helping us think politically correct
and not out-compete the consummate competitors.
I'm just smarter than you. You can join in too, if you don't starve to death like those on the Trail of Tears.
Hammond you twit.
Second to last corner, into Gambon, and across the line!
wtf, over?
Why the fuck be whores for a couple boys selling ground juice, when you can be like me?
Training is available, if you think you can survive without KOCH INDUSTRIES payola.
You'll feel better about yourself.
As I do, as a former Reason subscriber/adherent/faithmonger.
This is what happens when a brain is fed mostly from grass-fed fats.
Serious.
I'll show you how to transition from diseases of civilization to transition culture to steady-state-human-evolution success.
2050. Got any children? I do. I'm like the Edison of the new Stoned Age, except I'm not on drugs.
Well, a bottle of Italian Pinot Noir, sure. Cute little tax stamp. Real cork.
Think Roman Empire 20 centuries ago.
Long time ago for herded cats.
Short time for analytical thinkers.
Modern hunter-gatherer lifestyles are cul-de-sacs in cultural evolution terms. They stopped mattering by around 4000 BC, and haven't significantly affected world events since. Pastoral nomads though, played a crucial role until at least World War I. Until about 1405 (the year Timur died), they actually played the starring role. And in reconstructed form, the lifestyle may again start to dominate world affairs within the next few decades. Their eclipse over the last 5oo or so years, I am going to argue, was an accident of history that is finally being corrected.
The barbarians are about to return to their proper place at the helm of the world's affairs, and the story revolves around this picture...
The Return of the Barbarian - Ribbonfarm
http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2011/03/10/.....barbarian/
for fuck sake, I don't even own a cell phone
I'm not a slave.
Just do it, like those chinese slave labor made shoes do.
meow?
As the alpha competitor.
Ever see those movies about wolf packs, and the leader.
It's lonely at the top.
*sniff*
any submissive females? sex is a decent compensation for lonely alpha-wolves
...doesn't mean I'm not still horny
500 comments is in the house if there are any alpha wolves of anything near the mental capacity of WI
Can you help us all think politically correct? That might make a 5 minute plan for conversation feasible.
You said wolves?
it has to be true if we say it enough
Trollocs. Blood and bloody ashes, TROLLOCS
as realistic as pure capitalism
as realistic as pure communism
as realistic as pure libertarianism (whatever that is)
Hodor!
Or WI will get pissy.
Don't DO it.