Even the Ignored Amendments Can Be Violated in a Horrible Fashion
Over at The Volokh Conspiracy, Ilya Somin points to a "forthcoming" paper by law professor Tom Bell which reveals another one of those unconstitutional moments from "the good war." It also rather ruins witty commentary about the oh, so relevant Third Amendment (that'd be the one that says the government cannot quarter troops in your house in peacetime, "nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.")
Everybody knows the Japanese internment, few know that when the Japanese army was trying to gain a foothold in the Aleutian Islands, off of Alaska, the U.S. forcibly booted out the island natives and quartered troops in their homes.
The passage Somin highlights:
They were forcibly removed from their homes and interred in distant and unhealthy camps, an ordeal in which "[t]hey fell victim to an extraordinarily high death rate, losing many of the elders who sustained their culture."Worried about Japanese invaders, and pursuing a burnt earth policy, the U.S. military completely destroyed some evacuated villages. Other empty villages, though left standing, "were pillaged and ransacked by American military personnel." When about a year later they were finally returned to their homes, "All household effects and equipment the Aleuts had left behind were missing."The occupying forces took more than just the market value of the destroyed property. As reported in Personal Justice Denied, the official report of the Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians, "Through the insult of massive looting and vandalism of their homes and places of worship by American military forces, the Aleuts lost invaluable tangible ties to their past. Houses can eventually be rebuilt and refurnished, but stolen family mementos, heirlooms and religious icons . . . cannot be recovered." Quartering was thus not the only or worse thing that the Aleuts suffered at the hands of their government. [footnotes omitted]
As Tom points out, much of the above represents clear violations of the Takings Clause and other parts of the Constitution, in addition to the Third Amendment. Yet, unlike in the contemporary case of the internment of the Japanese-Americans, no one in government even considered the possibility that the Aleuts' constitutional rights had been violated.
Even when the federal government belatedly gave the Aleuts partial compensation for their losses in the 1980s, officials never admitted that the Aleuts had suffered violations of their Third and Fifth Amendment rights. Ultimately, the surviving Aleuts had to settle for a long-delayed, relatively paltry, $12,000 in compensation. The failure of officials to even consider this obvious violation of the Constitution is, as Tom notes, extremely telling. It does not paint a flattering picture of our constitutional culture, especially when it comes to property rights.
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But because the 10th and 14th Amendments don't mean what they clearly say, the government actually has broad powers to do as they damned well please.
Or some such.
I don't see a problem with that, Diet.
And the irony is that the invasion of Alaska was just a diversion for the attack on Midway. The Japanese would have been insane to invade Alaska. They had no ability to supply a large force in Alaska. And trying to do so would have greatly weakened their efforts in important theaters of the war. We should have just let them sit on Kiska and Attu. And indeed, in one of the great untold blunders of the war, we invaded one of the Islands not knowing the Japanese had already evacuated. A good number of American troops were killed by friendly fire in the come to find out useless invasion.
The book Miracle at Midway touches on this - one of my favorite books, recommended for anyone who does project management. The Japanese plan of attack was absurd with too many assumptions and moving parts.
I will have to check that out. Thanks
You should read Rick Atkinsons first two volumes of a planned three volume history of the American effort in Europe Day of Battle and An Army at Dawn.
They really give a great description of the American war effort warts and all.
And still probably would have worked if we hadnt broken the Japanese codes.
My Axis & Allies experience disagrees with your tactics.
no one in government even considered the possibility that the Aleuts' constitutional rights had been violated.
Society can't just run around granting rights willy-nilly.
But, the Constitution is, like, a hundred years old and junk.
The Constitution is a fucking piece of paper. If the government ignores it, what are you going to do about it? Just what the Aleuts did: nothing.
Oh, we're working on ignoring it, Episarch.
Can I have his fuckin' head busted open, Boss?
Die in a government camp.
At least they got free health care.
+100 for the free health care.
I'm damn happy with mine
You didn't even know what a toilet was until Uncle Sam showed it to you.
Did I say "death camps"? I meant happy camps, where you can enjoy the finest meals, have access to fabulous doctors and exercise regularly.
Ditto. The constitution's sole purpose nowadays seems to be public relations for a failing empire. "Look! We really care about basic rights - it's written down right here!"
And besides, those Aleuts were a bunch of rich fat cats. They owed their property to the gubmint. Isn't that how the statist catechism goes?
Rich people suck! Throw rocks at them!
The Onion needs better fact-checking: http://www.theonion.com/articl.....r-su,2296/
There are only four published decisions involving the Third Amendment. It is a sad commentary on American government that the only people who have ever successfully pursued a Third Amendment claim were...public employees.
Corrections officers in NY have on-site residences provided for them by the State. The residences are owned by the State. When the c/o's went on strike, the State brought in National Guardsmen and housed them in the residences. The c/o's union actually convinced the Second Circuit Court of Appeals (1) that the National Guardsmen were "troops", (2) that the state-owned residences were the "houses" of the striking c/o's, and (3) that by placing the Guardsmen in the residences, the state had "quartered troops" in the strikers' "houses."
This farce of a case is called Engblom v. Carey, 677 F.2d 957 (2d Cir. 1982).
The constitution was supposed to protect citizens from government excess, and it is a travesty to see constitutional protections used to perpetuate government excess.
It is a good commentary. It means the government hasn't abused it very much.
I didn't think there were any, so there's my factoid of the day.
[Insert Snow Crash reference here]
Didn't RTFA, but since Alaska wasn't a state at the time, did the Aleuts really have any constitutional protections?
I don't see anywhere in the Constitution where it says anything like that.
The Constitution limits the government's ability to do this or that. Even if they weren't U.S. Citizens, the government doesn't have any right to arbitrarily imprison people.
Foreigners don't get to vote--full stop.
Show me in the Constitution where it says the government is free to violate the rights of anyone who isn't a citizen.
Agreed.
"Everybody knows the Japanese internment..."
One of the things that always bugs me about that term "Japanese internment" is that it isn't really descriptive of what happened.
A huge chunk of the people who were held in "Japanese Internment Camps" were Japanese by ancestry--but they weren't of Japanese nationality.
They were Americans! They were citizens!
According to Wikipedia, 62% of the "Japanese" internees were American citizens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.....internment
People seem to get the idea that the victims of Japanese internment camps were all Japanese citizens living in the United States--but thousands of them were American citizens.
They were American citizens who were imprisoned for being of Japanese ancestry.
In practice? It seems that the Constitution only protects our rights in war time to such an extent as the loyal opposition is willing to stand up for them.
I knew the majority were Japanese-Americans (or, ya know, just Americans) but I didn't realize people may have the wrong idea about the internment. Noted. Thank you.
See, this is why we need another Constitutional Convention--because the slimeball politicians would never go for something like this unless we get together and ram it right down their nasty thieving throats:
Constitutional Malfeasance Amendment
Constitutional malfeasance shall consist of any other person who, while presenting himself or herself as any elected, appointed, or otherwise authorized representative of the people of the United States and purporting to act under color of the legitimate powers delegated to the the United States government by the People, approves any law or regulation or commits any other act which violates or abridges the rights and privileges of any citizen of the United States or which is contrary to original intent and plain meaning of the words of this Constitution.
The supreme court of any of the Several States, or any court of the United States shall, upon presentation of satisfactory evidence, make a finding of constitutional malfeasance.
Any person found by the supreme court of any State or by any court of the United States to have committed constitutional malfeasance shall, regardless of any subsequent disposition of the matter, from the date of the finding and forever more be ineligible to serve the United States or any State in any position of trust or authority and shall from the date of the finding and forever more be ineligible to receive any salary, pension, payment, renumeration, or monetary benefit of any kind whatsoever from the United States or any State. Such ineligibility shall not be subject to review or appeal.
Any Representative, Senator, President, or Officer of the United States who is found to have committed constitutional malfeasance shall be fined no less than ten million dollars, such amount to be distributed in equal measure to any and all citizens of the United States whose rights and privileges were abridged or violated. Such fine shall be subject to review and appeal in the usual and customary manner for judicial appeals.
Any Representative, Senator, President, or Officer of the United States who is found to have committed constitutional malfeasance shall be imprisoned for no less than ten years. Such imprisonment shall be subject to review and appeal in the usual and customary manner for judicial appeals, however no person shall be released from imprisonment until and unless that person is found not guilty on appeal.
. . . just an idle thought . . .
"which is contrary to original intent and plain meaning of the words of this Constitution"
Please explain this original intent partu
Negotiable . . .
I suppose I could have incorporated by reference the entire corpus of the Federalist Papers and the various deliberations of the state assemblies as they approved the Constitution . . .
Gotta find some way of keeping the weasels from taking, say, the Commerce Clause and stretching it to cover every damn thing they want to get their grubby little weasel-paws on.
Dunno what the best way to do that is, but I do know that unless you try to nail them down a lot tighter than the original document did, the weasels will continue to go all Humpty Dumpty on us--"it means just what I choose it to mean ? neither more nor less!"
No offense, but so what? The US did a lot of bad crap in the Civil War as well, like depopulating most of Western Missouri, which by the way, was a Union state. (Read Gray Ghosts of the Confederacy by Richard Brownlee for the actions of the Union in Missouri and the guerilla movement it inspired)
Why do things matter 70 years ago but not 150?
They always matter. Take it from the Josey Wales of H&R.
Scorched earth tactics are a common and useful way to respond to an invasion. If the constitution prevents us from defending ourselves adequately when under foreign invasion, it has failed its most basic function and is undeserving of respect.
In wartime Congress can pass a law to use this tactic in certain instances.