Caged Warmth

Three harrowing days at a women's minimum-security prison!

Peter Bagge | From the July 2011 issue

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PantsFan 14 years ago

I thought Chained Heat was a documentary?
Au H20 14 years ago

Peter, why did you censor out all the lesbian sex that took place in between these scenes?
1. ClubMedSux 14 years ago
  
  You gotta join the pay site for that.
  1. OO 14 years ago
    
    hummmm...womens' prison pay porn site is just one step on the slippery slope into privatization just like...somalia
    1. PIRS 14 years ago
      
      If you actually want to know about the relationship between libertarian theory and Somalia I suggest you read this :
      
      http://mises.org/daily/5418/Anarchy-in-Somalia
      1. yonemoto 14 years ago
        
        I would like to know about the relationship between libertarian theory and roads. Where's the mises institute on that?
        
        PIRS 14 years ago
        
        It would be wrong to think that everyone at the LvMI has a single position on the subject but Walter Block has written on the subject quite a bit
        
        http://mises.org/daily/3416/A-.....d-Highways
2. El Duderino 14 years ago
  
  I read through three whole blocks before I determined that there wouldn't be any hot pussy eating scenes. So disappointed.
Drave Robber 14 years ago

tl;dr

in fact, didn't even try.
1. db 14 years ago
  
  Your loss.
2. proegg antichicken 14 years ago
  
  it's good, don't be foolish.
3. Snowbee 14 years ago
  
  Seriously, I miss Peter Bagge's comics in Reason. They make the Friday Funnies all the more disappointing.
  1. yonemoto 14 years ago
    
    the odd thing is that I saw a henry payne outside of the friday funnies, and it was actually decent.
PIRS 14 years ago

When I worked as a librarian in a community college I met a guy who lived in New York City. He spent some time homeless and when it got really cold he deliberately waited for a cop to be nearby and threw a rock at a window. At least he would not freeze to death ? and he would get a meal. This is truly symbolic for the choices lots of people make with the state. But in his case I could not blame the guy. Anyhow the title of your work reminded me of that.

Great cartoon. You are the most informative and insightful cartoonist working today. You have a genre all your own.
Jeff P 14 years ago

Subjecting inmates (and the citizenry in general) to more Michael Jackson is just monstrous.
Old Mexican 14 years ago

Three harrowing days at a women's minimum-security prison!

There's no mention of his buttcheeks being pinched to the point of bleeding... Hmmm...
Old Mexican 14 years ago

"With its small size and benign architecture, this facility could easily be mistaken for an elementary school (if you ignore the razor wires, that is.)"

Huh? You mean there are elementary schools with no razor wires, out there somewhere???
1. Phlogistan 14 years ago
  
  Could be a few.. But I'm not talking. They have spies everywhere!
2. Old Salt 14 years ago
  
  You fuckin' joke but here in Orange County, Florida they just rebuilt a high school (West Orange High) which looks EXACTLY like a county prison minus the razor wire and guard towers!
  1. Phlogistan 14 years ago
    
    oh no good sir, twas not in jest at all.
    
    The parallel's between state prisons and schools are most precise you see.
  2. Evil Otto 14 years ago
    
    Old Salt,
    
    I work at West Orange High School. It doesn't look anything like a county prison. In fact, it looks just like any of the new high schools being built here... because they're all using the same plans. Now, if you're talking about the architecture itself being ugly, then I can see your point, but don't exaggerate.
Mongo 14 years ago

Great job, P-Bagg -- funny and insightful.

I have many user friends (many in and out of rehab/workhouse) who think that legalization of drugs is a crazy idea. Most of them (nearly all) are Believers in the Church and State.
1. Old Bull Lee 14 years ago
  
  Me too, and I've heard people with gambling problems say the same. They're basically children, except they WANT their parents to set the rules for them.
  1. Todd 14 years ago
    
    Well, it's sad to say, but when your parents weren't around (mentally or physically) in the first place, it's easy to want a substitute. I think that's the greatest problem libertarianism has to overcome as a mass movement. You can't force people to grow up at gunpoint.
Phlogistan 14 years ago

I love this stuff. Singing, dancing, sky daddy platitudes, alternate life style do-gooders, and an artistic expressionist twit thrown in for good measure.

Well Done Sir and Madaam! Your professionalism in purposely humiliating these women is a testament! A testament I say! To successfully fleecing the taxpayers of cash and these women of dignity and hope!

Well played my good sir.
1. Phlogistan 14 years ago
  
  BTW you did film the shame extravaganza right?
  
  Still can bring tears to your eyes eh?
  
  Is my disgust getting through? I sure hope so.
db 14 years ago

One of the things I like best about Bagge is he's not afraid to address the things that make him uncomfortable about his own libertarianism. As a libertarian myself, I know that the stock answers are never perfect, and you have to think about them, and try to understand why they are (or if they are) right. And if they are not, what other libertarian principles can be used to craft a solution to the problem?
1. OO 14 years ago
  
  there are no libertarian solutions for free-market collusion & other anti-competitive practices
  1. PIRS 14 years ago
    
    Actually there are. In a true free market there are no barriers to start up companies entering the marketplace. If companies "collude" to the point it is a disadvantage for customers new companies can form to compete.
    
    Microsoft is today used as an example of collusion in the marketplace but they are using patent laws ? a creation of the state. An increasing number of free market thinkers are arguing against the very concept of "IP".
  2. Jason 14 years ago
    
    Please explain why the Prisoner's Dilemma is stable at always cooperating.
  3. Old Mexican 14 years ago
    
    Re: OO,
    
    there are no libertarian solutions for free-market collusion & other anti-competitive practices
    
    "When I sell at the same price as my competition, it's collusion. If I sell below my competitor's price, it's predatory pricing. If I sell above my competitor's price, it's price gouging."
    
    In other words, double-asshole here is not saying anything we have not heard from the economics illiterate and intellectually-challenged ("leftist boobs" to be more succinct.)
    1. OO 14 years ago
      
      i tried to understand that, but then i farted & felt all better.
      1. joshua corning 14 years ago
        
        I heard once that 7-11 and AM/PM sold potato chips that were made in the same factory...
        
        AND TO MY HORROR IT WAS SAID THAT THEY SOLD THEM AT ABOUT THE SAME PRICE!!!!!
    2. PapayaSF 14 years ago
      
      And don't forget: if they have no competition, they're a monopoly!
  4. joshua corning 14 years ago
    
    free-market collusion
    
    Is that the socialist name for a business partnership....or did OO drift off into the land of oxymoron.
2. Robert 14 years ago
  
  ...or uncomfortable about anything else, AFAICT. Bagge's the best they've ever had -- better than Randall Hylkema, better than Terry Colon -- and this is even while they still have Terry Colon!
  
  Even his most memorable stuff in Reason touches only tangentially on libertarianism (which is fine with me): the medi-pot lawyer's terrifying driving ("I've got the right of way, buddy!"), Darklady's box lunch ("Ooo, cookies!"), the monorail cycle (to Seattle Mariner games, coming back vomiting the beer), Christian music's vague lyrics ("Well, you know....") -- but "It's still the devil's music!" "Take smelly plant with you!" "sweet old bird...until she's had a few" And does he seem to be making himself look younger now?
Warty 14 years ago

That was really good.
1. Art-P.O.G. 14 years ago
  
  Precisely. Bagge's work is terrific.
Franklin Harris 14 years ago

This is not at all like that movie I saw on Cinemax.
1. Russ Meyer 14 years ago
  
  Mine had a better title.
Russ 2000 14 years ago

I would like to see Bagge illustrate some Balko articles. A little heart punch to go with the nut punch.
C. Al Currier 14 years ago

RE: Mission Creep Corrections Center

I think the artist misspelled 'Creep'.
1. Phlogistan 14 years ago
  
  Damn fine catch Sir!
Joe M 14 years ago

Another nice one from Bagge. His stuff has always been one of the highlights of the print edition.
kinnath 14 years ago

luv your stuff Peter.
Lurker 2 14 years ago

Always appreciate the honesty of Peter Bagge's comics.
joshua corning 14 years ago

Her mom was a crack whore so you won't write a letter of recommendation????

Fuck man I don't give a shit if you support ending the drug war or not...you are an asshole and deserve no solace.
1. Some Guy 14 years ago
  
  Not only that, but her father smelt of elderberries.
Rob McMillin 14 years ago

Great piece.
Mark 14 years ago

From the title, I expected better pictures. But that's me.
opers 14 years ago

I can't feel sorry for these women. While I'm sure they have it rough, I feel worse for those who have it rougher. You know, their victims.

Non violent drug offenders, used to pull the heartstrings. I get that. But actual thieves, robbers, etc? I don't care why you did it lady. And no I'm not going to hire you, and I don't care if it makes you "fall back into old habits".

If someone stole my jewelry, because I committed the terrible crime of trying to sell my house, I doubt I'd look upon these women with as soft an eye as the author has.
1. LB 14 years ago
  
  Agreed. I think this comic was for the people who think that criminal justice is supposed to help criminals as opposed to those who think it's for keeping them away from the rest of society.
  
  I just hope the arts program wasn't taxpayer funded.
GILMORE 14 years ago

Cartoon sad is even sadder than plain old word-sad.
Crystal Jewelry 14 years ago

Caged Warmth, interesting...
1. Bradley 14 years ago
  
  Doesn't really have the same ring to it as Caged Heat.
EDS 14 years ago

I'm a retired Prison Chaplain. At the female minimum security prison we had no fences or razor wire. We never had an escape. We relied on volunteers for programming. That means we had those evil, horrible, degenerates called Christians doing all sorts of programming. We also had Mormons, Jehovah Witness, and Muslim volunteers. All programs were clearly labeled. Secular programs did occur, but the volunteers seemed to lack ongoing motivation. There was no pressure by the institution to participate in any Religious program. The institutions faith based program was multi-faith, with a lot of emphasis on tolerance.
On another subject. Most lesbian activity was opportunistic. Most of these women would rather be in a heterosexual situation, but only have woman to be with in a female institution.
By the way: the only ones I saw taking these women in and getting them jobs were Christians and Mormons. The author needs to examine his soul- he will not risk anything, but he damns those who are willing to put it on the line. Also note: not all guards are happy with Christianity- some single out Christian volunteers for special scrutiny.
gersan 14 years ago

Gee, why don't you ask the Koch brothers if they'll donate their precious money to women's prisons? I'm sure they'll pitch in.
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