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Policy

"Those MLK and Mark Twain Quotes You're Spreading on Facebook and Twitter Are Fake"

Matt Welch | 5.3.2011 10:29 AM

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  1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

    Aren't they always? People can't even figure out that Mars will never be as big in our sky as the Moon (unless super aliens propel it in our direction), so it's little surprise that they can't get quotes right.

    Also, the Internet.

    1. ?   14 years ago

      Liars + retards = the chatosphere.

      Present company exempted, of course.*

      *not

      1. Episiarch   14 years ago

        Oh, anonypussy, you just can't resist your passive aggressive nagging, can you. Don't you have a real life person to nag the shit out of? Probably not.

        1. VM   14 years ago

          not since you ran out on him and started shacking up with Nutra Sweet while ProGLib filmed.

          yeah. it's true. a french marine new york journalist pirate frankish king told me!

          1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

            That's unfair. I merely produced.

            1. VikingMoose   14 years ago

              doh! that's right. Was it crane who was filming? Highnumber was out recruiting at the time...

              hmmmmm.

              1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

                Crane is an actor/director, right?

    2. Cyto   14 years ago

      The Mars one never ceases to amaze me. A coworker of mine just ran into it for the first time last week. First, a caveat. He's brilliant. I mean raw intellectual horsepower, top 1% brilliant. Math genius. But he comes from the Dominican Republic and his science education is entirely from personal reading and TV (in a second language).

      He had to ask me if the Mars email was possible. He suspected that it didn't make sense, but wasn't sure why. It kinda broke my spirit. I mean, this guy is smarter than you (for very large sample sizes of "you"). And he wasn't immediately 100% sure that Mars didn't appear as large as the full moon in the sky in 1999.

      And you wonder why appeals to group-think and raw emotion devoid of any grounding in reality work in the popularity contest of US politics?

      1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

        I've personally debunked this one multiple times. Mars has a diameter that's about half of Earth's; the Moon's is about a quarter of Earth's. For Mars to be the same size or bigger, it would have to get pretty danged close--say, as close as twice the orbital radius of the Moon.

        Problem is, Mars is, at its closest, about 34 million miles away. And it gets as far away as 249 million miles. The Moon is roughly 240,000 miles away.

        1. sasob   14 years ago

          For Mars to be the same size or bigger, it would have to get pretty danged close--say, as close as twice the orbital radius of the Moon.

          That or the Moon would have to get pretty danged far away. 🙂

          1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

            Yes, that's right, I omitted the Space 1999 option. No more unlikely than Mars suddenly approaching within a million miles of Earth, I suppose.

            1. fresno dan   14 years ago

              i say we make "pretty danged close" an official interstellar measurement unit (equivalent to twice the orbital radius of the Moon) and call it PL in honor of its creator.
              Steven Hawking: How many PL units is that?
              Astronomer: I...I don't know what a PL unit is, sir
              Hawking: WWHHHAAATTT!? Eject this man from the earth!

              1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

                That would be such an honor.

        2. Isaac Bartram   14 years ago

          I must confess that I hadn't heard this one. But I live a sheltered life.

          One version of the emails did apparently say "At a modest 75-power magnification Mars will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye." [my italics]

          Well, duh, with ??-power magnification any number of distant or small objects can be made to look as big as the moon.

          Snopes has a pretty good rundown.

  2. Brett L   14 years ago

    What? Quotations too good to be true are too good to be true? The MLK one was too precious. Who would he have been referring to? His own assassin? The Twain/Darrow one at least sounds like them.

  3. West Texas   14 years ago

    I hadn't seen either of those, and regardless of whether MLK said the first, I like it. This whole thing has been kind of macabre in a way - TV anchors acting like they're cheering on a football game or something.

    That said, I feel no pity for OBL and he deserved to die. He wanted a war, he started it by ordering and facilitating the killing a bunch of innocent people, and now he's received justice.

    I just kind of wish people would be a bit more sober about it.

  4. Scruffy Nerf Herder   14 years ago

    Those who would sacrifice liberty for security, get ice cream for dessert.

    - The Franklin Mint

    1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

      "Rousseau is a dick."

      --Voltaire

      1. Scruffy Nerf Herder   14 years ago

        "I drank what?"

        - Socrates

        1. Matt Welch   14 years ago

          "Jean-Paul Sartre is a fartre."
          -- Borges

          1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

            The funny thing is, all of these quotes are likely accurate.

          2. Scruffy Nerf Herder   14 years ago

            The real ones are always the best:

            "I want to thank you for the importance that you've shown for education and literacy."

            ?G.W. Bush

            1. JW   14 years ago

              "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to wash his hands, hoist his socks, and begin to gather flowers." - H. L. Mencken

              1. PS   14 years ago

                "I'm not afraid to duel some dude in a wheelchair."

                --Alexander Hamilton

                1. JW   14 years ago

                  "You can shoot some of the people all the time, shoot all of the people some of the time, but shoot me twice, shame on you." - Harry Truman

                  1. Cyto   14 years ago

                    "I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubble gum"

                    -Roddy Piper

          3. Jay Sherman   14 years ago

            Camus can do, but Sartre is smartre.

            1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

              Jean-Paul Sartre's La Guerre des ?toiles (or Sartre Wars).

              1. sloopyinca   14 years ago

                "Au Revoir, gopher."

                -Jean-Paul Sartre

                1. Warren Beatty   14 years ago

                  "Elaine May,but Natalie Wood."

                  1. Robert Wagner   14 years ago

                    Shut the fuck up about Natalie, Warren, or I'll kick your ass.

                    1. Plinkett   14 years ago

                      I'd dock my space-canoe in Natalie's port, man...

    2. Joe R.   14 years ago

      Why, I found the play delightful. Thank you. -- Mary Todd Lincoln

  5. Osama bin Laden   14 years ago

    The news of my death in Pakistan on May 1st, 2011 has been greatly exagerated. I have been declared dead at least eight times before:

    http://www.corbettreport.com/o.....inth-time/

  6. Warty   14 years ago

    From a letter to Mrs. Clemens: "How lovely is death; and how niggardly it is doled out." That man knew how to charm the ladies.

    1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

      He had a not-so-great life in many respects--lots of death and sadness.

      1. Warty   14 years ago

        Did you read volume 1 of his autobiography yet? The bit where he quotes from his dead daughter Susy's biography of him and adds commentary is really sad. And his book about Joan of Arc is, too, if you know that it's basically a love letter to Susy.

        1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

          He also lost his brother, who he had a close relationship with.

      2. rac   14 years ago

        All that may be true, but he used the word nigger. Thus, we must ignore him.

        1. rac   14 years ago

          Oh Jesus I said Nigger!

          1. rac   14 years ago

            Oh Fuck, I said Jesus!

            1. WTF   14 years ago

              Just don't say Mohammed.

              1. Old Man   14 years ago

                Jehova!

                1. Jewish Official   14 years ago

                  You're only making it worse for yourself!

                2. fresno dan   14 years ago

                  Yahweh
                  I TAKE THAT BACK
                  I meant wow-ee!

        2. Abdul   14 years ago

          dude, look up a few posts, it's "niggardly."

          duh!

    2. WTF   14 years ago

      "How lovely is death; and how niggardly it is doled out."

      RACIST!

      1. Meme guy   14 years ago

        Niggardly is a perfectly cromulent word.

  7. P Brooks   14 years ago

    "It is better to remain silent, and have people think you a fool, than to speak up, and prove it."

  8. P Brooks   14 years ago

    "Those Russians are a bunch of pussies."
    -Napoleon

    1. Ziskey   14 years ago

      Napoleon...yeah right.

    2. fresno dan   14 years ago

      I base Barbarosa on that great miltary genus, Napoleon.

      It didn't work out so well!??! Oh Oh!

  9. spencer   14 years ago

    "I would gladly pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today."
    - Federal Government Wimpy

    1. ClubMedSux   14 years ago

      I think you had it right the first time.

    2. kilroy   14 years ago

      Isn't it "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today."?

  10. Irresponsible Hater   14 years ago

    "The difference between the words attributed to a man and the words a man truly spoke is as wide as the difference between the words he spoke and the words he wished he had. Which is why I write shit down."

    - Mark Twain

  11. Stormy Dragon   14 years ago

    "If a quote is brief, cynical, and humorous, it is an easy enough thing to put my name after it." -- Mark Twain

  12. Mark Twain   14 years ago

    I never killed a man I didn't like.

  13. Warty   14 years ago

    "STEVE SMITH! STEVE SMITH RAPE CORPSE!" - STEVE SMITH

  14. ?   14 years ago

    "Jews did WTC."

    ?H.L. Mencken

  15. Orgazmo the Flying Chimp   14 years ago

    The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln

  16. sloopyinca   14 years ago

    "Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives."

    -Socrates Johnson

    1. Internet Quote Copy-paste guy   14 years ago

      Missy: Hi, Bill. Want a ride?
      Bill: Sure, Missy.
      [she draws a blank stare at Bill]
      Bill: I mean, mom.
      [she smiles and puts on her Ray-Bans]
      Ted: [whispering to Bill] Your stepmom's cute.
      Bill: Shut up, Ted.
      Ted: Remember when she was a senior and we were freshmen?
      Bill: Shut up, Ted!

  17. P Brooks   14 years ago

    "Don't get too hung up on the actual language of the thing; we can always go back and change it later."
    Thos Jefferson

    1. fresno dan   14 years ago

      Old ladies are the best: they don't tell, they don't swell, and they're grateful as hell.
      Ben "horse" Franklin

      1. Jack   14 years ago

        That would be Bob Heinlein, Most Revered God of Science Fiction.

  18. Richard   14 years ago

    For what it's worth, the MKL quote is pretty close. McMegan tracked it down to a Facebook user named Jessica Dovey. She posted:

    I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. "Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that." MLK Jr.

    When people reposted it (especially on Twitter, with the character limit), the quotation marks got stripped out, and the whole thing was missattribuited to MLK.

    1. Richard   14 years ago

      *sigh* Sorry for the broken URL. Correct link:
      http://www.theatlantic.com/nat.....on/238257/

    2. Rock Action   14 years ago

      Completely apt last name given to Ms. Dovey.

  19. Max   14 years ago

    "I trust you to accurately reflect my views in the newsletters. Don't even show them to me." --Ron Paul

    1. .   14 years ago

      There's nothing wrong with the views in those newsletters, but there is something wrong with yours.

  20. Max   14 years ago

    "Cockgobbler or gobbling cock, what's the difference? It always ends up with a mess in my mouth." - Max

  21. fresno dan   14 years ago

    "Say you have an idiot and a congressman, but I repeat myself"
    Mark Twain

  22. MWG   14 years ago

    "It's amazing what people will believe on the internet so long as it confirms their preconceived notions."

    -Thomas Jefferson

  23. Joe M   14 years ago

    That quote being incorrectly ascribed to Twain has been a thing for a long time. The MLK one is brand new, however.

  24. highnumber   14 years ago

    Penn Jillette quoted just the first part of the bogus MLK quote, that is to say the bogus part, on twitter last night, attributing it to MLK. His reaction to being corrected: "If there's something stupid, I can do it."

    What annoys me are the people who say that it doesn't matter whether MLK said it or not. It does matter if only for the sake of posterity, because years from now people will be trying to sort out who MLK was and all the noise of falsely attributed quotes will obscure who he was and what he did and said. If you think it doesn't matter because you just like the sentiment behind it, why do you bother giving any attribution at all?

    1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

      I'm attributing your quote just now to Hitler.

      1. highnumber   14 years ago

        "I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work." - Pro "Gator" Libertate

        1. highnumber   14 years ago

          This was terrible of me.

          1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

            "I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature."

            --high "Replicant" number

            1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

              Zod forgive me.

  25. VM   14 years ago

    duh - Churchill was doing an homage to Shakespeare.

    At a hotel in Jersey where Washington slept.

    1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

      You mean the guy from Welcome Back Kotter?

  26. Stevo Darkly   14 years ago

    "Yes, they deserved to die, and I hope they burn in hell!" -- The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

    1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

      I saw that video: The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Unplugged.

  27. Stevo Darkly   14 years ago

    "Say 'what' again! I dare you! I double-dare you, motherfucker! Say 'what' again one more time!" -- The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

  28. Stevo Darkly   14 years ago

    "I have had it with these motherfuckin' snakes on this motherfuckin' plane!" -- The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

  29. Viral Stories   9 years ago

    Throughout the years, the people have been modeling and looking to Inspirational Leaders as a source of inspiration for achieving goals for themselves. Inspirational quotes from great leaders have since become daily brain food for people wanting to create better lives for themselves.

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