Can You Tell When the Drug Czar Is Joking?
Last week drug czar Gil Kerlikowske, who used to be the chief of police in Seattle, returned there for an addiction conference and met with the editorial board of The Seattle Times. Since the request for the meeting came two days after the paper editorialized in favor of marijuana legalization, board members (and their sympathizers) expected something like a scolding. But editorial writer Bruce Ramsey reports that Kerlikowske "was cordial and almost laid-back." When asked about marijuana, "he did disagree with us, but so gently that some of the attendees wondered why he had come at all." The meeting attracted 25 or so protesters who urged Kerlikowske to "get with the Times."
When Ramsey asked Kerlikowske whether the war on drugs (which his boss, Barack Obama, once called an "utter failure") has been a success, he "did a double-take":
Didn't I know that one of his first acts as Drug Czar was to declare the War on Drugs over? Hadn't I seen that?
No. I thought the War on Drugs was still on.
"The War on Drugs is over," he said. "We've stopped looking at it as a criminal justice issue alone."
Was Kerlikowske kidding? It's hard to tell. Here is how Seattle Times reporter Jonathan Martin, who was at the meeting too, describes the exchange:
He also said President Obama has shifted the focus on drug policy by describing it as a public-health problem. The administration has asked for increased drug-treatment funding, while money for interdiction is stagnant, Kerlikowske said.
He noted he officially called an end to the "war on drugs" after taking office two years ago. "I don't know how you missed that," he joked.
What does it say about the Obama administration's drug policy that people can't tell whether the man ostensibly in charge of coordinating it is joking when he attaches so much significance to a half-hearted change in terminology?
For more on the alleged medicalization of the war on drugs, start here. The pot legalization bill endorsed by the Times is here. Unfortunately, it gives the state a monopoly on marijuana, which would be sold alongside distilled spirits in state stores.
[Thanks to Paul in Seattle for the tip.]
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Kerlikowske "was cordial and almost laid-back." When asked about marijuana
I hope they didn't screw his high with all the negative shit
Yeah, they should have added that he was amiable and "giggly", and he asked if anyone had some Cool Ranch Doritos or king-sized bag of Funyuns.
Cheetohs
Is it time we finally heed Dr. Szasz and stop congratulating ourselves for this move to the "treatment model"? The treatment model is drug war by liberals, nothing less. It's time to be fully vocal about complete de-control of all "controlled" substances. Repeal the Controlled Substances Act.
Drug rehab is a scam. Incarceration a proven failure.
Drug abuse by some citizens is something a free society just has to live with.
I can tell the drug czar is a joke. Is that close enough?
The War on Drugs is over in the same way the War in Iraq is over.
We can't stop the war in Eurasia. There's too much money in it.
Stunning. When will this national nightmare end?
Our long national nightmare is over.
Your son smoked pot.
mine was photographed snorting coke 🙁
And is/was a shitty actor
"We've stopped looking at it as a criminal justice issue alone."
Ol' Gil went on to explain that by we he meant him and his dog and that the DEA would still be treating it as solely a criminal justice issue.
Gil is a first rate dickhead. So glad he's not Seattle's police chief any more.
LOL, I bet you know them all by name
"Put in a good word for ol' Gil now, won't ya?"
Kerlikowske has a similar air of hangdoggedness.
What a lying sack of crap he is. As long as its viewed as a criminal justice problem, at all, the WOD is on.
And what's this bullshit about how its now a public health problem? First, recreational drug use is no more a public health problem than recreational water skiing. Second, since when do you address a public health problem by locking people up?
http://reason.com/blog/2011/03.....nt_2169416
I read up on this before
Of course as long as marijuan remains illegal it is a criminal justice problem, Mr. Kerlikowske.
And the public health angle? Sure they also want to view it as a public health problem, because the government is soon to have a monopoly on that, too.
It says that the czar is operating in a democracy of hundreds of millions. Seriously, this phenomenon where half hearted changes in terminology are a big deal, is no big deal, it's commonplace. You can never be sure whether it's the tip of an iceberg of policy, or just a little piece of ice that will soon melt.
When it comes to czars, the Obama Administration believes in quantity over quality.
There's a certain quality to quantity.
Unfortunately, it gives the state a monopoly on marijuana, which would be sold alongside distilled spirits in state stores.
Yeah in Washington state we have to buy Liquor in a state store...of course they do not control the quantity you buy and whole sellers can sell directly to Bars...and of course we do have bars in Washington state.
So yes it is unfortunate. But in comparison to throwing millions at the drug war and throwing 100s if not 1000s of people's lives down the toilet in my states prison system that "unfortunate" part would actually be a fucking miracle.
One question though....does the bill allow people grow it for their own personal use?
If so I think the state sales part would be a mute point. My understanding is that pot is easier to grow then tomatoes.
No. It isn't.
And even if it were, people still buy fucking tomatoes.
For some reason I just pictured dipping a jalapeno popper into a small container of marijuana sauce.
Wouldn't you pay just to see a tomato fucking, let alone own one?
If so I think the state sales part would be a mute point.
That's probably why you never hear it.
the point is moot!
My understanding is that pot is easier to grow then tomatoes.
Yes it is easier. It is more difficult to grow the best marijuana than very good tomatoes. If you could by nursery-started marijuana plants down at the garden center it would be about the same.
And even if it were, people still buy fucking tomatoes.
Tomatoes are best enjoyed fresh.
The growing is not the difficult part. Drying and curing is where many amateur growers turn all their time and effort into naught. If done improperly, one's harvest tastes like hay or freshly mowed lawn.
Quick, someone tell Mexico that the War on Drugs is over.
"[M]oney for interdiction is stagnant . . . ."
It's official.
It's a quagmire.
Helicopter in to Juarez and hang a "Mission Accomplished" sign on the city hall. That ought to convince everyone.
(It would also get a lot of laughs.)
One of these days libertarians are gonna get tired of the crumbs these officials keep throwing at us.
Seattle Times Cannabis Reform Protests send US Drug Czar down the rabbit hole!!!
4 March, 2011, Seattle, WA
US Drug Czar Gil Kerlikowske sneaks around to the back door, flees from a couple of protesters after emptying his empty bag of old rhetoric on the news and meeting with Times Editors all morning!!!!!!http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/03/05/the-drug-czar-comes-to-town-and-nothing-much-happens&cb=ee11d8f3af3fe94e8a04b72cc19daed3&layoutId=PostComment&view=comments#comment-7046851
After seeing the drug Czar's bizarre bipolar behavior Friday, its clear that the Feds Kool-Aid has run out! A Defeated man, looking more like a paranoid drug dealer than the Nations top Drug Cop, Gil exited out of an auxillary entrance after trying to put a juke move on protesters altogether. It was more embarrassing than frustrating as a peaceful OIF Veteran protester. I has trained never to never surrender, and after Gil's acquiescent talks with The Seattle Times (The whole hubub and the "coincidence" that really riled people up in the first place) he was in full retreat mode during a perceived show of force; see The Stranger @http://www.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/02/25/white-house-requested-meeting-with-seattle-times-editorial-board-to-bully-against-pro-pot-articles
In summation, I'll quote what Brendan Kiley of The Seattle Times said after Friday's activities."The White House's drug czar is making the case in such an empty and specious way, he might as well be arguing for legalization."
PS: Kiro 7's Online Poll shows a whopping 86% chunk of the public for Legalizing Cannabis
PSS I think when Washington legalizes cannabis across the board, we will become the wealthiest state in the USA"-Jeanne Black-Ferguson, Grammas forganja.org.
Thomas Studley
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Alcohol prohibition in the US run from 1919 to 1933 - Now google 'The Great Wall Street Crash' and see when that happened!
During alcohol prohibition, all profits went to enrich thugs and criminals. Young men died every day on inner-city streets while battling over turf. A fortune was wasted on enforcement that could have gone on education etc. On top of the budget-busting prosecution and incarceration costs, billions in taxes were lost. Finally the economy collapsed. Sound familiar?
http://1929crash.com/
China has recently been in negotiation with a number of countries, asking them to replace the Dollar with the Chinese Yuan as their reserve currency. This, when it happens, will remove the Federal Government's ability to keep printing cash to cover the trillions it costs to fund prohibition. It'll mean true freedom but the transition period may well bring consequences that are far more horrific than a slasher movie. -- It never had to be this way; we should have learned our lesson from studying the mayhem that alcohol prohibition wreaked on us.
We all have our victories and defeats as regards fear, but most of us strive not to let fear rule our hearts or our minds. Being free means being free to live and love as if death and fear had no power over us. Freedom also means that we have an ethical and moral responsibility to expose blind hate, lies and ignorance by shining eternal light, truth and love, sending such dark forces fleeing to the shadows from whence they came.
We explore outer space with various forms of space craft, but many choose to explore inner space via nature's abundant chemistry - an infinite journey into the heart of God. Whatever, we are here to explore this glorious universe. The Prohibitionist's brand of hateful, choking pseudo-Conservatism is the antithesis of all that. Like a lion who cannot grasp that he can do more than walk in a circle the size of the cage he's recently been freed from, the prohibitionist is incapable of exploration beyond the boundaries of his own fear, prejudice and loathing. We are all free to choose how we walk our own path, but when we choose to go beyond this by supporting drug-war demagoguery, to the point of even threatening others with imprisonment and physical violence, we loose the right to expect any form of respect from the once free and prosperous society that we are helping to totally destroy.
Thanks to prohibition we're about to lose all semblance of that once ordered, prosperous and safe society. Myself, along with many others, have been debating prohibitionists on this for many years. We have shown what destruction prohibition has wrought on all the civil institutions of this once great nation, -we've always provided facts and statistics - they, the prohibitionists, have countered with either lies, personal abuse or even serious threats of violence.
Ending the insanity of drug prohibition by legalized regulation, respecting the rights of the responsible users and focusing on addiction as a sickness, like we do with alcohol and tobacco, may save what remains of our economy and civil institutions along with countless lives and livelihoods. Prohibition continues unabated for shameful political reasons. It cannot, and never will, reduce drug use or addiction.
Prohibition has permanently scarred our national character as well as our individual psyches. Our national policies and cultural practices have become pervaded by the fascistic, prohibitionist mind-set which has turned our domestic police force into a bunch of paramilitary thugs who often commit extra-judicial beatings and executions while running roughshod over our rights in order to "protect us from ourselves".
When we eventually manage to put the horrors of this toxic moronothon behind us, we'll need to engage in some very deep and honest soul-searching as to what we want to be as a nation. Many of our freedoms have been severely circumscribed or lost altogether, our economy has been trashed and our international reputation for being "free and fair" has been dragged through a putrid sewer by vicious narrow-minded drug warrior zealots who are ignorant of abstract concepts such as truth, justice and decency. We'll need to make sure that such a catastrophe is never ever repeated. This may mean that public hearings or tribunals will be held where those who have been the instigators and cheerleaders of this abomination will have to answer for their serious crimes against our once prosperous and proud nation.
Each day you remain silent, you help to destroy the Constitution, fill the prisons with our children, and empower terrorists and criminals worldwide while wasting hundreds of billions of your own tax dollars. Prohibition bears many strong and startling similarities to Torquemada?'s inquisition?, it's supporters are servants of tyranny and hate. If you're aware of but not enraged by it's shear waste and cruel atrocities then both your heart and soul must surely be dead.
Prohibition engendered black market profits are obscenely huge. Remove this and you remove the ability to bribe or threaten any government official or even whole governments. The argument that legalized regulation won't severely cripple organized crime is truly bizarre. Of course, the bad guys won't just disappear, but if you severely diminish their income, you also severely diminish their power. The proceeds from theft, extortion, pirated goods etc. are a drop in the ocean compared to what can be earned by selling prohibited/unregulated drugs in a black market estimated to be worth 400,000 million dollars. Without the lure and power of so much easy capital, it's also very unlikely that new criminal enterprises will ever fill the void left by those you successfully disrupt or entirely eradicate.
Millions of fearless North Africans have recently shown us that recognizing oppression also carries the weight of responsibility to act upon and oppose that oppression. Prohibition is a vicious anti-constitutional assault on ALL American citizens by a criminally insane and dysfunctional government, which left unchallenged will end with the destruction of the entire nation.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country? Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
? Abraham Lincoln, November 12, 1864
"Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness] it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government?"
- The Declaration of Independence July 4, 1776
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? 2401. Applicability of subchapter
A person may be nominated and have his or her name
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The Vermont Statutes Online
Title 17: Elections
Chapter 49: NOMINATIONS
17 V.S.A. ? 2402. Requisites of statement
? 2402. Requisites of statement
(a) A statement of nomination shall contain:
(1) The name of the office for which the nomination is made;
(2) The candidate's name and residence;
(3) If desired, a name, or other identification (in not more than three words)
to be printed on the ballot following the candidate's name;
(4) In the case of nomination for president or vice president of the United States,
the name and state of residence of each candidate for such office,
together with the name, town of residence, and correct mailing address
of each nominee for the office of elector. The statement of nomination
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? 4; 2007, No. 54, ? 3; 2007, No. 121 (Adj. Sess.), ? 7, eff. May 6, 2008; 2009, No. 73 (Adj. Sess.),
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The Vermont Statutes Online
Title 17: Elections
Chapter 49: NOMINATIONS
17 V.S.A. ? 2403. Number of candidates; party names
? 2403. Number of candidates; party names
A statement of nomination shall contain the name of only
one candidate, except in the case of presidential and
vice-presidential candidates, who may be nominated
by means of the same statement of nomination.
A person shall not sign more than one statement
of nomination for the same office. The political or
other name on a statement of nomination shall be
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political party. It shall also be substantially different from
the political or other name already appearing on any other
statement of nomination for the same office then on file with
the same officer for the same election; if the secretary
of state determines that it is not substantially different,
the candidate named on the statement shall select a
different political or other name, otherwise the secretary
may reject the statement of nomination. Except in the
case of presidential and vice-presidential candidates,
the word "independent" may not be used as part of a party name;
if no party is indicated, the word "Independent" shall
be printed on the ballot, and no candidate appearing
on the ballot as a candidate of a political party shall
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(Added 1977, No. 269 (Adj. Sess.), ? 1; amended 1979,
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Jesus said to do unto others as we would have them to do unto us. None of us would want our child thrown in jail with the sexual predators for using a little marijuana. None of us would want to see our parent's home confiscated and sold by the police for growing a couple of marijuana plants to ease the aches and pains of growing older. It's time to stop putting our own families in jail. It's time to let ordinary Americans grow a little marijuana in their own back yards, and it's nice to see our culture coming to terms with this in a more wholesome fashion. This will go a long way toward putting the criminal drug gangs out of business for good!