Reason Writers With Questionable Facial Hair on TV: Matt Welch Talks California on Varney & Co.
On New Year's Eve, while you were putting pink champagne on ice, Reason Editor in Chief Matt Welch was on Fox Business Network talking about the latest developments in the Golden State's ongoing fiscal disaster. And paying a sort of silent homage to Chuck Todd:
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Matt looks like the EPA guy from Ghostbusters. You know, “dickless”. 🙂
Nope. Walter Peck [actor William Atherton] did not wear glasses.
It looks like Gordon Freeman put on weight. But not really that either.
No “New Years Weekend Open Thread?” WTF?
Oh well, here goes:
AEI Scholar Brings Clarity to “Death Panels” Hysteria
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..inionsbox1
Just because there are already death panels, shouldn’t mean we should encourage for more death panels to be set up.
Sooooo….the existing government health care plan leads to death panels but the new one won’t?
Not that that matters. What’s important to glean here is that these death panel decisions happened in states governed by Republicans. THAT’s the real issue MNG wants to bring your attention to. And we should listen to him because he’s such a nice little moderate.
Er, it’s more like the death panels are just a normal, necessary part of any health care system. Government or market, state or federal, nobody is going to keep throwing money after returns become more and more marginal.
But hey, shouting DEATH CAMPS! sounds so much more fun!
“Government or market, state or federal, nobody is going to keep throwing money after returns become more and more marginal.”
Correct, however, in a market people are free to ration themselves based on their own subjective value judgements.
The fear incited by the idea of death panels doesn’t come from the fact that life and death decisions have to be made, that’s the reality of scarcity and mortality. The fear comes from the idea that they’ll be made by some bureaucrat in DC with no relationship to the individual who will be affected.
The fear comes from the idea that they’ll be made by some bureaucrat in DC with no relationship to the individual who will be affected.
Oh, there will be a relationship all right – between the bureaucrat and the expansion of his power against the political connections of the individual needing treatment.
Fuck these shits who love government health care.
Yeah, because a bureaucrat somewhere at Aetna HQ is so much more preferable.
Yes, because that “bureaucrat” somewhere at Aetna has to act according to the dictates of the contract they entered into with the individual receiving care. They don’t get to just decide on a whim without the person having a say in the matter.
…because a bureaucrat somewhere at Aetna HQ is so much more preferable.
So your solution is less accountability? Got it.
One of the major problems with the idea of ‘health care freebies’ right now is the disassociation of the customer and the vendor by way of third party middle men, be they government or HMO’s.
Doubling down on a bad system serves no one but bureaucrats, and O-Care does nothing but make it worse, because it removes accountability at the same time it expands middle men.
Of course, those middle men make an awful lot of money fucking over everybody else – and those same people know that there is an army of people like you salivating at the chance to double down on stupid.
also, if i have money in my pocket i can go outside the current system. if the FDA gods have their way (Obama encouraging them if not just downright pushing them), drugs like (Avastin) and certain types of care will be deemed “too expensive, or not good ROI” (like this administration knows the difference between viable business plan and piece of TP).
Did we say “death camps?” We meant “happy camps.”
Yep. As I’ve said before, anyone claiming that they can “bend the cost curve” of health care downward without sacrificing anything in the way of service is nothing but a stone cold liar.
The most expensive health care typically comes towards the end of one’s life, and it’s patently obvious the only real way to rein in costs is through rationing. Leftists feel compelled to lie about such obvious truths because they know full well how unpopular the idea of rationing is in this country, and most people aren’t going to want the government harassing them every week to just take the blue pill and go away.
This may well all be necessary, but I don’t consider it something worth celebrating. I believe that the Hippocratic Oath is a fundamental part of medical care.
” they know full well how unpopular the idea of rationing is in this country”
As noted, some kind of cutting off of coverage is inevitable in any system. I guess that is as unpopular as the fact the people do in fact ultimately die and other such unpleasant realities…
Wrong. What’s unpopular is pushing a system that removes the decision from the affected individual, all while lying that you’re just trying to ‘help’ a greater number of people.
Interesting report, lagging US math scores may be due to clueless parents:
http://voices.washingtonpost.c…..-education
“Evidence suggests U.S. parents may be overly confident or lacking in the use of accurate metrics around math performance and college preparedness. For example, 78 percent of U.S. parents report their children’s math performances are in the top 20 percent compared to peers in school”
No doubt liberals urge smaller class sizes and teacher raises while conservatives point to school prayer to solve this problem…
That sure is some master baiting right there.
Re: MNG,
And used car salesmen report their cars to be top notch and in great condition compared to the “other guys.” What the statistic found is people indulge in puffery. Ho hum.
Speaking of clueless. The way you present this is innumerate. Without presenting the similar rate at which parents in some better math performing country think their kids are in the top 20%, the 78% is completely unremarkable.
“For example, 78 percent of U.S. parents report their children’s math performances are in the top 20 percent compared to peers in school”
So 78% of parents think their kid is the smartest, most beautiful kid on the block? Truly shocking. I never would have guessed.
“No doubt liberals urge smaller class sizes and teacher raises while conservatives point to school prayer to solve this problem…”
While smaller classes have their upside, raises for the sake of raises will just encourage bad teachers, and further entrench the current system. And I agree a lack of school prayer is not the problem, most conservatives I know point to competition making teachers better, not prayer.
Come on MNG, you can do better.
You need to meet more conservatives.
Maybe I do, maybe you do.
No, he does. Religious fanaticism within the conservative movement is massively exaggerated at this point.
hmm, seems someone is unfamiliar with polling data on the perceived amazing benefits of school prayer held by a huge chunk of the US public (and of course that chunk has more GOPers in it than Dems)
I hardly call that fanaticism. Besides, prayer has been shown empirically to have an assortment of psychological benefits.
I’m not gonna argue that school prayer has any benefits in the classroom. I think student success is mostly due to parents and a stable life than anything. Government can’t do a whole lot to fix that, but it can make it worse.
At least half my family are self proclaimed conservatives, and I grew up in a pretty red state(AZ). And honestly, school prayer was not high on their list for reasons to get the federal government out of education. I know, I know, anecdotes as evidence, blah blah blah. But when life experience seems to contradict “studies” like this, I’ll be a bit skeptical.
The irony is that there’s been a host of studies showing class size has little effect on outcomes, yet MNG points to that as his solution while criticizing school prayer (yet doesn’t offer anything saying that conservatives feel that’s the answer).
My point being that myths don’t just exist in religion. Secular Humanists have a whole assortment of their own demonstrably false beliefs.
Apparently, believing false things are
And the belief in the efficacy of school prayer correlates to kid math performance how?
…and throwing more money at schools correlates to…
First things first, Matt:
When you get back to your own universe, say ‘hey’ to Evil Spock for me.
And, I declare it:
2011: The Year of the Contract Do-Over
Matt’s getting ready for the cruise!
Actually, I think he looks more like evil Michael Knight than evil Spock.
The jacket is an explicit for-the-cruise Christmas present.
A present from you to all of us, or from Cavanaugh to you?
That question is so excellent that I won’t dishonor it with a response!
Will Mr. Gillespie be wearing that fetching black leather speedo?
Matt is Garthe Knight?!? Does he have Goliath?
Matt you look good. The bitches are just complaining because they barely can grow pubic hair.
it actually doesn’t look so bad, gives him a little bit of geek chic adam savage look.
Yes he does but Savage dresses in a “uniform”-always the same way. Matt’s wife must be hiding in France because he is mixing summer and fall colors.
BTW, replied to your comment. Thanks
at least put the collar tabs in…
i agree with Rather, light colors = summer, dark colors = winter
we’re working on subliminal credibility here. i know, i know, it sounds creepy but it works.
Estonia has joined the Eurozone.
Suckers!
Well, the politicians from all these East-Block countries have been bribed by the EU for years now. It’s a simple game: you enact what the EU wants, and you get EU funds to hand out across your political constituents so that you can win reelection.
Ya, I don’t think that’s what’s going on with Estonia.
What else could it be?
Estonia, being a tiny, recently impoverished country with an unfortunate history of being run over by malevolent neighbors, sees the entering into the western world’s great multilateral institutions (NATO, the EU, now the EURO) both as a way to at long last secure its future, and as a general “hey look-a what we did!” accomplishment.
It’s a pretty consistent view throughout the East Bloc, concentrated most heavily in Poland, the Czech Republic, and the Baltics. (This despite the presence of several noted euro-skeptics in some of these countries.)
“Estonia, being a tiny, recently impoverished country with an unfortunate history of being run over by malevolent neighbors, sees the entering into the western world’s great multilateral institutions (NATO, the EU, now the EURO) both as a way to at long last secure its future, and as a general “hey look-a what we did!” accomplishment.”
Some people are so stupid that being overrun by malevolent neighbors is a vital evolutionary check on the gene pool.
So fearful of being ruled again from Moscow, they rather choose to be ruled from Brussels. Seems irrational to me, but perhaps not in the eyes of Estonians themselves.
Papers you can ignore. Guns and tanks, not so much.
Does Belgium have a government yet?
They have nice waffles.
the chocolate is not too shabby…
Ah! And they were doing so well…
Still better news than the bombings in Nigeria and Egypt.
Can you say Ireland-they will be fucked too
Matt:
The beard looks very good, BUT learn to tie a repectable knot!
I believe in diversity of knot styles. Also, you have terrible taste in facial hair, though I thank you for it.
If I had to wear a tie for a living, I’d find another way to make a living.
Just my 42 cents.
No shit!
Win.
LOL, 2 “wins” in two days? Heller will cry, and throw his test tube in a tantrum. Epi will put 8 balls in his ass instead of an 8-ball into his mouth. Urkobold? will finally admit that they don’t fix their site that crashes everyone’s computer cause they are really just a “keeping it on the down low club” . BTW Tony, I hear they have your pictured tattooed on their butts.
I do not work for an organization for which a tie is mandatory, to say the least.
You’re lucky there, Matt.
The video is proof enough of that.
facial hair is okay. Makes you look like Adam Savage. You should review the scientific paper on knot theory. There are only 14 “aesthetically pleasing” knots out of 85 “reasonable” possibilities.
http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~ym101/tie/aps97tie.html
Matt: the diversity is limited. there are only thirteen aesthetically pleasing knots.
http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~ym101/tie/aps97tie.html
Matt: Review your tie theory. The diversity of knots is limitied. There are only thirteen “aesthetically pleasing” knots. (Out of 85 allowed possibilities).
http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~…..ture4.html
Matt: Review your knot theory. They aren’t so diverse as you might think. There are only thirteen aesthetically pleasing knots.
http://goo.gl/oC4Bq
Do collars and cuffs match?
reSpectable.
English lit or Inglish lit?
&F 1111
Happy New Year to all!
Matt, be proud of your bitchin’ facial hair. A beard only works when the wearer isn’t ashamed of it.
Fuckin’ A. Also, speaking as a guy with dirty blond hair and a ginger goatee, fuck it if the colors don’t match.
what does the carpet look like?
Vous ne voulez pas voir? Je suis le vague ? l’?me! …Plus ma barbe que mes cheveux.
Montrez-moi le coup de l’argent 😉
Hail Gates for translate with live search
LOL Non. Je suis Qu?b?coise.
You’re a fucking ginger?!? You’re dead to me, BP. DEAD.
There goes your 8-ball next Xmas.
I wouldn’t do an 8-ball with a ginger anyway, you sick pervert.
Oh, I have no shame about my terrible goatee.
Does it tickle?
In other news, Chris Christie is apparently a poopyhead because he didn’t hitchhike back to Joisey from Florida and personally shovel little old ladies’ driveways.
Let us guess: It’s, um… liberals doing said griping about Hizzoner Christie?
And how is it even possible that Jersey got slammed by such a blizzard? The liberals were telling us just a few years ago that our kids would never see snow again.
But… but… global climate change!
Being from NJ, or should I say, beings as I live in Jersey, I have two problems. One, BOTH the Gov and Lt Gov were on vacation at the same time. That’s not supposed to happen. That’s why almost all companies and government agencies require two weeks notice for vacation. Two, it left State Senate Pres, and all ’round crooked bastard, Steve “Mr Ironworker” Sweeney in charge. Or should I say, it left his boss in charge, Mr (King) George “I want an eminent domain land grab so I can build an arena for my minor league hockey team” Norcross III.
Well, you do have a point – one of the two should have stayed and minded the store.
Is Obama’s shart in the Gulf laundered yet?
Can we hire Gordon Gecko to teach Matt how to tie a tie?
Kidding, good segment, Matt.
USA record low temperatures outpace record highs 19 to 1 last week.
The summary of new records of interest for the past week in the USA:
Snowfall: 539
High Temperatures: 18
Low Temperatures: 336
Lowest Max Temperatures: 278
The coldest? Deadhorse, Alaska, on Sunday, 26 Dec 2010 at -40?F beating -38?F set in 1984.
Global warming is false cause it’s cold outside, herp-derp:
http://ifglobalwarmingisrealthenwhyisitcold.blogspot.com/
Oh, just fucking great… mclaren is back.
I’m sorry my posts get you depressed, since I am in tune to something known as “reality”, and violate the central libtard tenant which is “Don’t Worry, Be Happy!” To hold to that, you HAVE to deny Climate Change and Peak Oil. They sure are a bummer, huh?
Hiuppies of the right-wing, all.
Libtards charge “Don’t Worry, Be Happy!” rent?
It’s not depression… it’s more like boredom laced with a tidbit of amusement.
*Hippies.
central libtard tenant
Uh…shouldn’t that be tenet, genius?
Spelling, like thinking, involves one of those hierarchies Fountleroy bravely opposes.
Global warming is false cause it’s cold outside, herp-derp:
Heat wave proves global warming is happening. herp-de-derp.
http://climateprogress.org/201…..heat-wave/
Matt: Review your knot theory. They aren’t as diverse as you think; there are only 13 ‘aesthetically pleasing’ knots.
goo.gl/oC4Bq
I do not believe art can be reduced to formula.
The first comment I can agree with-I hope this isn’t an omen
…what about reducing it to a wardrobe malfunction?
State spending has fallen off a cliff throughout all 50 states, and it’s getting worse as time passes. At least five states are already disintegrating and falling into economic and social black holes?Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, Louisiana, California?and the rest are rapidly losing ground.
With Michigan and Nevada the now-eternal sky-high gasoline prices have destroyed their basic economies; in Michigan, with the end of the Happy Motoring lifestyle the auto industry is going away, while in Nevada the end of cheap gas means no more tourists taking a spin to the casinos on the weekends. Louisiana has gotten clobbered by Katrina and now the oil gusher destroying their coastline and fisheries adds the final death blow. Missouri disintegrated with the collapse of the rust belt and California has long-term structural problems due to outsourcing and its freeway car culture.
I can almost hear the naieve libtards asking themselves “why don’t states cut spending?”
Because of the problems that are destroying the economies of the individual states are structural crises caused by the layout of American society and can’t be fixed by individual governors. California, for example, is dying because it’s based on a freeway car culture designed when oil cost a dollar per barrel. Oil is forecast to rise to and stay at 175 dollars per barrel. A governor has no effect on that.
California also depends on slave labor illegal immigrants to pick its lettuce in the hot hot sun for 50 cents an hour and that’s just as unsustainable as the freeway car culture. At the same time, California has set up rich pensions for its police and firefighters and prison guards and those contracts are set in stone. A governor can’t break them now, and those gold-plated pensions will be destroying and barnkupting California for the next fifty years?the time to have done something about those gilt-edged pensions was 30 years ago. Now it’s too late. Even if the pension plans are revised, California is already contractually obliged to pay out a river of gold for the next 30 or 40 years.
California is also running out of water and that’s due to global warming. As the temperature skyrockets (119 F in Woodland Hills CA on 23 July 2006), the drought worsens, and once again the governor has no control over that.
Louisiana will be spending itself into bankruptcy for the next century trying to repair the damage from that BP oil gusher, if it can be repaired: Decades after the Exxon Valdez spill, fishermen still can’t fish in that are of the Alaska coastline. Michigan is disintegrating into a Mad Max wasteland and the mayor of Detroit is now talking about bulldozing large parts of the city because they don’t have enough revenue to police the crumbling cityscape that’s left. St. Louis continues to burn every year as arsonists go berserk on “hell night” and the city’s blasted moonscape gets worse and worse. It’s a death spiral like Baltimore, where the decaying third world urban hellscapes drive out residents, the tax base plummets, less services become available including fire and police, the urban landscape crumbles even more and gets even worse, which drives out more residents?rinse, wash, repeat.
Governors can’t fix these kinds of death spirals by cutting spending. The problem right now in most states in the U.S. is that essential services are getting cut to the point where residents flee, which in turns destroys the tax base and force even more cuts in essential services.
The fundamental problem is that America has decided to run multiple unsustainability marathons simultaneously in an apparent effort to see how far we can push things until our society and our economy collapse completely. On the one hand we’ve got a national freeway car culture with countless laws making high-mileage vehicles illegal (for instance, in most cities and most states, large Chinese mopeds go too fast to be certified as mopeds and can’t be imported legally) and banning high-efficiency home construction (like straw bale construction) with the result that Americans continue to drive insanely wasteful gas-guzzling SUVs while mass transit and light rail has gotten blocked at every turn.
At the same time, Americans continue to stupidly support multiple foreign wars in third world hell-holes, which we’re losing, at the same time we eagerly applaud spending ourselves into bankruptcy to build Buck Rogers hi-tech weapons that don’t work (like the failed missile defense system, or the ridiculous airborne laser beam weapons).
At the same time, we’ve passed non-reform health care “reform” that has no cost controls, yet forces Americans to buy health insurance from greedy corrupt medical-device-insurer-hospital-doctor cartels who jack up the price to infinity, without limit. Meanwhile, American businesses outsource all high-wage high-skilled jobs to Chinese and Indian PhDs, turning America into a nation of dog groomers and hairdressers and window washers.
At the same time, the cost of a college education continues to spiral out of control, now up beyond a quarter million dollars for a top 50 college, and still climbing without limit. And to top it all off we eliminated usury laws back in 1982 and never reinstated ’em, so now the banks are going berserk charging 35% interest rates and hitting consumers with $50 overdraft fees until people are going broke left and right.
You put this all together, and it’s no wonder all the states are falling apart. All the high-wage jobs have been outsourced, all the college students and recent college graduates are crushed under a burden of debt they’ll never pay off for the rest of their lives. Driving a car now costs more than the average person can afford, and it’s getting more expensive, not less.
One out of every four homeowners now owes more on their houses than the house is worth, and as the economy continues its free fall, more and more people are losing their homes to foreclosure, or because they can’t pay the property taxes anymore. As the tax base declines, the cities and towns have less money to spend on basic services, which in turns causes worse urban decay, which in turn makes more people leave, which in turn decreases the tax base even further.
So many unsustainable trends have now combined that we’re looking at a perfect storm. The future cost-cutting plans for most states in the U.S. are those that Detroit is now facing: bulldoze houses and shut down fire and police and ambulance services because the communities can no longer afford to pay for them.
States are now being crushed by unfunded mandates like the HCR “reform” bill’s mandate that 15 million chronically ill people get added to the states’ medicaid rolls even though medicaid expenses are already bankrupting the states and the states are slashing medicaid reimbursements to the point where no doctor will accept medicaid because it pays too little. Yet the HCR “reform” funding for those 15 million chronically ill uninsurable people doesn’t kick in for another 4 years.
States are getting bankrupted by the flood of newly middle-class homeless who’ve signed up for food stamps. Explain how you cut your budget when armies of people who’ve just lost their houses and their jobx and are over age 45 and will never be able to find another job again suddenly start applying for welfare and food stamps, as it happening now?
Explain how states cut their budgets when the revenue from the gasoline tax plummets because people can’t afford to drive their cars with the sky-high cost of gasoline. Explain how states can their budgets when unemployment skyrockets and causes a huge spike in crime, requiring far more overtime for police. Explain how states cut their budgets when the war on drugs clogs their prisons with millions of people swept up in crazy SWAT raids that break down the doors of private homes and drag people away to prison for having a couple of joints in their bedroom drawer.
Also, Chemtrails!!
Either actually read my post and comment on it or shut up and let the adults talk, child.
Perhaps you wanted something with bigger print and pretty pictures?
It sure would be nice if someone posted a goddamend wall of text that actually meant something…
Why don’t you go ask mommy for some ritalin if your attention span is so short?
Tool.
I’m not the tool here, mclaren. If I were, I would have voted for either McCain or Obama.
If you vote PERIOD you’re a fucking tool.
Uh, yeah. Sure, dude.
It’s easy! Just keep raising taxes and budgets! Forever!
You think I’m a liberal?
How cute. I’m much to the left of American “liberalism” and critiqued ObamaCare in my post if you even bother to read it, child.
“You think I’m a liberal? … I’m much to the left”
I’ll let you twist in the self-contradictory wind now.
It’s rude and rather dishonest to simply cut-and-paste a tome from another site written months ago and present it as a contemporaneous comment on a current topic. The more thoughtful way to do it is post a link (and perhaps a small representative passage) of a previously written relevant comment, and cite it as such. But to instead dump a lengthy wall of text on everyone with the implicit claim that you just wrote it in response to the current discussion, is not only dishonest it is essentially plagiarism — even if it is plagiarizing something you wrote yourself, assuming you did indeed write the other identical post from seven months ago (i.e. if you use previous work, you have to cite it, even if you yourself wrote it — it’s just common sense and courtesy).
In any event, spare us the lectures about attention span and whining about not reading your post. If you won’t trouble yourself to follow even the very minimal etiquette of blog comments then you really have no reason to expect anyone else exert the effort to understand your undoubtedly profound thoughts.
+100
I also tend to write long blog comments, but I don’t just cut and paste, and I usually try to stay within four reasonably sized paragraphs. I remember one comment board where somebody would literally copy and paste several pages of Marx in response to every question I gave.
At least the balloon juice comment is in paragraphs.
It certainly does beat the normal series of nonsensical screeches, grunts, and chimpouts that make up the majority of the Balloon Juice comment section.
It’s rude and rather dishonest to simply cut-and-paste a tome from another site written months ago and present it as a contemporaneous comment on a current topic.
Yes, but it does accomplish the goal of wasting time and distracting from actual discussion – which is the point of these d-bags.
I’m impressed.
Whoa.
“Either actually read my post and comment on it or shut up and let the adults talk, child”
I read it, it’s full of exaggeration, misinformation, and outright lies, with a hint of truth sprinkled in, here and there, but presented in a misleading light.
In other words, it’s a bunch of conspiracy garbage.
amen mclaren, although I wouldn’t be so quick to blame the drought on global warming – it’s just as likely to be due to changing land use patterns.
I’m also not worried about indian and chinese PhDs. Indian PhDs are extremely uncreative. Chinese PhDs, well, they’re so creative they create fraud wherever they go.
The think to worry about is Indian MEs. Especially software engineering. Those guys are fucking gold.
The things about Southern Asians (well, the men, anyway) I’ve come into contact with is that you really have to be an obnoxious asshole to deal with them. Any instant of doubt or hesitation on your part, and they will conclude you have absolutely no idea what you’re doing, even if you can run rings around them.
When I worked in insurance, I was setting up an algorithm in an Excel workbook I was creating (and I was having a little bit of trouble). One asshole sneeringly “explained” a basic algebraic equation to me. I turned to him and said “great! Put it in the program”. That shut him up.
I try to be forgiving about cultural traits, but Indians (and Pakistanis) can be insufferable. At the time, they had also recently lost a (cricket) test series to Australia, and I made sure to point that out when leaving, just as an extra “fuck you”.
“Explain how you cut your budget when armies of people who’ve just lost their houses and their jobx and are over age 45 and will never be able to find another job again suddenly start applying for welfare and food stamps, as it happening now?”
Go to your local dominos. It’s always hiring. Security jobs are usually plentiful too.
Wall-o-text check
Peak Oil check
Out sourced jobs check
Mad Max wasteland + Buck Rogers hi-tech weapons Cool
A laundry list with no analysis, especially no analysis that addresses the effects of state control of the money supply and central planning of interest rates, just makes you look dumb, like some “Rolling Stone” reporter.
Can’t we get a character limit? Nothing this long on a message board is worth reading.
You would never guess, based on all the freak weather happening in usually temperate regions this winter, but 2010 will go down in the books as the hottest year ever recorded. NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center has released the following stats:
* For the 2010 year-to-date (January?November), the combined global land and ocean surface temperature was 0.64?C (1.15?F) above the 20th century average?the warmest such period since records began in 1880.
* The November 2010 Northern Hemisphere land and ocean surface temperature was the warmest November on record.
* The November 2010 global land surface temperature was the warmest on record, at 1.52?C (2.74?F) above the 20th century average.
IT’S ALL MANKIND’S FAULT!!!1!1!ONE!
Maybe humanity is one of the hierarchies he wants to abolish.
Distinctive human traits like critical thought are obviously low on his totem.
I know you’re an uneducated leftist and all, but the year doesn’t go from January to November, you fucking retard.
And by the way, we all know that the ClimateGate scientists are a bunch of lying, decline hiding frauds. Just give it up already, you’re not fooling anybody.
Fortunately, with the new Congress convening in just a couple of days, it shouldn’t be too long before the first real investigation of this fraud finally gets underway and the prime guys behind this hoax (Hansen, Mann, et al) start receiving their subpoenas to testify before Darrell Issa’s committee. Hopefully the incoming House has enough cojones to defund these con artists.
Yes Mike, the entire world scientific community is engaged in the biggest fraud ever to uh…uh…for some reason!
BUILDING SEVEN!
From Desperate Housewives to Desperate Climate Liars
Not long ago, the Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of California, Harold Lewis, caused quite a stir in science circles when he resigned from the American Physical Society. Physics is an exacting science, bound by immutable laws that are true throughout our universe.
It was not widely reported to the general public, but Lewis who had been a member of the American Physical Society for 67 years, made his reason quite clear after having received an APS statement supporting global warming.
“It is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life as a physicist. Anyone who has the faintest doubt that this is so should force himself to read the Climategate documents, which lay it bare.”
“I don’t believe that any real physicist, nay scientists, can read that stuff without revulsion. I would almost make that revulsion a definition of the word scientists.”
9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! OPERATION NORTHWOODS!!!1
Go die in a fire.
That’s too kind, Mike. mclaren deserves a more fitting death.
That’s too kind, Mike. mclaren deserves a more fitting death.
Freezing to death while walking through a record cold blizzard to a climate change conference during Teh Hottest Year Evah If You Only Count From January to November Using Unreliable Fudged Data TM seems like it would be a fitting irony.
It’s ridiculing conspiracy at the same time it accuses others of being on the payroll of big oil.
Hey, if Big Oil wanted to send me a check, I’d cash it. A fool and his money, and all that.
“Yes Mike, the entire world scientific community is engaged in the biggest fraud ever to uh…uh…for some reason!”
It’s not fraud, it’s a self-perpetuating system (feedback loop?) that arises because government funding only goes toward research that implies that government action is required.
One researcher writes a paper on AGW, which scares the shit out some bureaucrat, who allocates more money to his research. The researcher then uses that money to hire more researches who release more papers, which in turn means more funding, which attracts more research, etc, etc, etc.
Pretty soon the scientists who believe in AGW outnumber those who don’t, a “consensus” is announced, and everybody falls in line due to an appeal to authority.
The occurrence of thousands of people standing in line to make fools of themselves on national TV must be due to the fact that they all love to sing in public, and not for the minute chance that they may become ‘famous’ and wealthy.
After all, since the network isn’t engaging in a ‘conspiracy’, there can be no other explanation than what people claim in their interviews.
The only scientists who actually comment on climate issues are mainly people who receive their income from the state to address it.
I am not really interested in them enough to read their work, but their bots and sheeple like you show an amazing inability to address issues and make distinctions like:
1) Why are temperatures rising on Mars and all the other planets at exactly the same time they rise here?
2) Where is evidence and analysis that any temperature changes are due primarily to CO2 levels as opposed to solar flares or other causes?
3) Where is any evidence that human CO2 output levels can be altered without depopulating the earth or sending millions into poverty and starvation?
4) Where is the evidence that proposed schemes of enrichment and empowerment for the State and the tax predator ruling class alleged to ameliorate “climate change” will have any salutary and significant effects on climate change, as opposed to simply enriching Al Gore and allowing Obama to enact more corporate statism?
My New Year’s prediction?
Gasoline skyrockets to $6/gallon this summer.
Yeah, but expect it to come crashing back down. When gasoline skyrockets to $6/gallon, (which is still comparable to european levels) it will trigger a series of debt defaults which will result in deflation for another year or two. After this happens, brace yourself for weimar republic.
And unlike the Europeans we don’t nt mass-transit, or walkable communities, or anything else to ease the pain.
This country is fucked so hard.
Doomtroll foresees doom…DOOM!
well’ that’s why we’ll have deflation. But, don’t worry, the state will ease the pain by injecting more money into the supply.
I hope you’re “don’t worry” was ironic.
The state will go wild printing money, after the deflation we’ll have hyperinflation.
Quick – kill yourself now!
Yeah, and BIS will put the US Treasury into receivership.
“The state will go wild printing money, after the deflation we’ll have hyperinflation.”
Then why are you trolling the people who want to stop the state from spending money? Shouldn’t you be commenting on Paul Krugman’s blog or something?
* that should say “printing money”
“We’re DOOMED, DOOMED I tell ye!”
When gasoline skyrockets to $6/gallon,
Please. 2011 is going to be so fucked with other financial shit, people aren’t even going to realize $6/gal gas. when they’re paying $20 for a loaf of bread.
Have you seen this?
Then there’s all of the putbacks. 2011 is going to be interesting, indeed.
My New Year’s prediction:
mclaren is okay with $6/gallon.
Since I don’t have a car and live downtown, you bet I am.
Toolbags like you are fucked, though, as is our entire economy. The Happy American Way of Life ™ with its carbon-intensive, wasteful, high-polluting ways is at an end.
And you claim to not be a liberal…
Conservatives want us to be anally raped bareback by the corporate class, “liberals” are fine with us being raped as long as the corporate class uses a condom and some lube and gives us the occasional reach-around.
I’ll take being raped by a corporation over being raped by government.
We can all guess which one you’d prefer, mclaren.
Hah, the corporations fucking OWN our government and BOTH political parties.
Which is why I don’t vote for “both political parties”.
But, let’s go back to your happiness over screwing the poor with six-dollar gasoline costs…
Corporations own your little “libertarian” party too. Ever heard of Koch Industries?
Yeah, and they mail me checks to post here.
Jesus tapdancing Christ, talk about conspiracy theorists…
You’re saying that Koch Industries doesn’t, for example, fund the “Reason” Foundation?
Ever heard of Koch Industries?
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But since you brought it up. Koch also funds Nova on PBS.
Wow. You really have no idea what you are farting on about do you.
A tip for you you deranged fool — read some LP peeps discussing the Kochs. The Kochs may help fund many groups like Reason and CATO which also receive donations from hundreds of other people like me. But they don’t fund the LP. You just sound ignorant to the bone.
Another tip — look into the regulations about donating to political parties and campaigns. It’s difficult to give more than $31,000 or so a year to a party’s national committee.
Here are (all the various people named) David Koch’s 2010 contributions to politicians and campaigns (opensecrets.org)
I am not taking the time to add it up for you moron, but it looks like it is around $70,000 and I don’t see an LP candidate:
KOCH, DAVID H MR
WASHINGTON,DC 20005 KOCH INDUSTRIES, INC./EXECUTIVE VIC 11/13/2009 $30,400 National Republican Senatorial Cmte
KOCH, DAVID H MR
WICHITA,KS 67220 KOCH INDUSTRIES/EXECUTIVE VP 6/30/2010 $25,000 National Republican Congressional Cmte
KOCH, DAVID H
NEW YORK,NY 10021 KOCH CHEMICAL TECH GROUP LLC/EXECUT 7/13/2010 $5,000 Koch Industries
KOCH, DAVID H
NEW YORK,NY 10021 KOCH CHEMICAL TECH GROUP LLC/EXECUT 3/3/2009 $5,000 Koch Industries
Koch, David
Wayzata,MN 55391 None 5/14/2010 $4,800 Bachmann, Michele
KOCH, DAVID A MR
WAYZATA,MN 55391 RETIRED/RETIRED 8/18/2009 $4,500 Republican National Cmte
KOCH, DAVID
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES, INC./VICE PRESIDEN 11/30/2009 $2,400 DeMint, James W
KOCH, DAVID
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES, INC./VICE PRESIDEN 11/30/2009 $2,400 DeMint, James W
KOCH, DAVID
NEW YORK,NY 10021 KOCH INDUSTRIES/EXECUTIVE VICE PRES 7/6/2010 $2,400 Cantor, Eric
KOCH, DAVID
NEW YORK,NY 10065 KOCH INDUSTRIES/EXEC. VP 7/7/2010 $2,400 Kirk, Mark
KOCH, DAVID
WASHINGTON,DC 20006 WILEY REIN LLP/PARTNER 6/30/2010 $2,400 Blunt, Roy
KOCH, DAVID
WASHINGTON,DC 20006 WILEY REIN LLP/PARTNER 6/30/2010 $2,400 Blunt, Roy
KOCH, DAVID
WAYZATA,MN 55391 NONE/RETIRED 5/14/2010 $2,400 Bachmann, Michele
KOCH, DAVID A
PLYMOUTH,MN 55441 RETIRED/RETIRED 7/7/2009 $2,400 Paulsen, Erik
KOCH, DAVID H
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES, INC./EXECUTIVE VIC 6/30/2010 $2,400 Portman, Rob
KOCH, DAVID H MR
NEW YORK,NY 10065 KOCH INDUSTRIES/EXECUTIVE VICE PRES 7/6/2010 $2,400 Toomey, Pat
KOCH, DAVID H MR
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES/EXECUTIVE VP 11/16/2009 $2,400 Tiahrt, Todd
KOCH, DAVID H MR
NEW YORK,NY 10065 KOCH INDUSTRIES INC./EXECUTIVE/VICE 3/17/2010 $2,400 Rubio, Marco
KOCH, DAVID H MR
NEW YORK,NY 10065 KOCH INDUSTRIES INC./EXECUTIVE/VICE 3/25/2010 $2,400 Rubio, Marco
KOCH, DAVID H MR
NEW YORK,NY 10065 KOCH INDUSTRIES INC./EXECUTIVE/VICE 3/17/2010 $2,400 Rubio, Marco
KOCH, DAVID A
PLYMOUTH,MN 55441 RETIRED/RETIRED 10/12/2010 $1,900 Paulsen, Erik
KOCH, DAVID
PLYMOUTH,MN 55441 RETIRED/RETIRED 4/7/2009 $1,000 Republican National Cmte
KOCH, DAVID
PLYMOUTH,MN 55441 RETIRED/RETIRED 3/1/2010 $1,000 Republican National Cmte
KOCH, DAVID H
PALM BEACH,FL 33480 2/3/2009 $1,000 Thune, John
KOCH, DAVID
MACHESNEY PARK,IL 61115 DJ ENTERPRISES/OWNER 8/9/2010 $700 Manzullo, Don
KOCH, DAVID
MACHESNEY PARK,IL 61115 DJ ENTERPRISES/OWNER 7/6/2009 $700 Manzullo, Don
KOCH, DAVID
LONG BEACH,CA 90803 RETIRED/NONE 10/22/2010 $500 Parker, Star
KOCH, DAVID A
PLYMOUTH,MN 55441 RETIRED/RETIRED 2/26/2010 $500 Paulsen, Erik
KOCH, DAVID
SHAWNEE,KS 66218 TERRACON CONSULTANTS INC./SENIOR CO 2/24/2010 $300 Terracon Consultants
KOCH, DAVID A
OCEAN,NJ 07712 TWO RIVERS BENEFITS CONSULTANTS, LL 9/18/2010 $300 Sipprelle, Scott
KOCH, DAVID
NEW CANAAN,CT 06840 KOCH INDUSTRIES/EXECUTIVE VP 10/2/2009 $250 Foley, Thomas
Koch, David
Wayzata,MN 55391 None 5/6/2010 $200 Republican Party of Minnesota
KOCH, DAVID
WAYZATA,MN 55391 NONE/RETIRED 5/14/2010 $-2,400 Bachmann, Michele
KOCH, DAVID H MR
NEW YORK,NY 10065 KOCH INDUSTRIES INC./EXECUTIVE/VICE 3/25/2010 $-2,400 Rubio, Marco
Similarly, the closest thing there is to Charles Koch funding the LP (not that I wouldn’t support his doing so), is a $2,400 donation to Rand Paul. Not even Ron Paul, but Rand Paul.
KOCH, CHARLES G MR
NEW YORK,NY 10065 KOCH INDUSTRIES, INC./CHAIRMAN & CE 6/29/2010 $30,400 National Republican Senatorial Cmte
KOCH, CHARLES
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES 11/8/2010 $24,500 National Republican Congressional Cmte
KOCH, CHARLES
WICHITA,KS 67207 KOCH INDUSTRIES/PRESIDENT 6/3/2010 $5,000 Kansas Republican State Cmte
KOCH, CHARLES
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES, INC./CHAIRMAN OF T 12/30/2009 $5,000 Koch Industries
KOCH, CHARLES
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES, INC./CHAIRMAN OF T 6/1/2010 $5,000 Koch Industries
KOCH, CHARLES
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES/EXECUTIVE 5/24/2010 $2,400 Kirk, Mark
KOCH, CHARLES
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES/CHAIRMAN 6/7/2010 $2,400 Blunt, Roy
KOCH, CHARLES
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES/CHAIRMAN 6/7/2010 $2,400 Blunt, Roy
KOCH, CHARLES
WICHITA,KS 67202 KOCH INDUSTRIES/CHAIRMAN 12/31/2009 $2,400 DeMint, James W
KOCH, CHARLES
WICHITA,KS 67202 KOCH INDUSTRIES/CHAIRMAN 12/31/2009 $2,400 DeMint, James W
KOCH, CHARLES
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES/CHAIRMAN 5/27/2010 $2,400 Huelskamp, Tim
KOCH, CHARLES
CLEVELAND,OH 44108 FEDERAL HOME LOAN BANK/BANKER 4/14/2010 $2,400 Portman, Rob
KOCH, CHARLES
WICHITA,KS 67201 PRESIDENT/KOCH INDUSTRIES 9/7/2010 $2,400 Moran, Jerry
KOCH, CHARLES
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES/CHAIRMAN & CEO 12/21/2009 $2,400 Tiahrt, Todd
KOCH, CHARLES
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES/CHAIRMAN & CEO 5/20/2010 $2,400 Tiahrt, Todd
KOCH, CHARLES G
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES, INC./CHAIRMAN 6/9/2010 $2,400 Coburn, Tom
KOCH, CHARLES G
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES, INC./CHAIRMAN 5/21/2010 $2,400 Portman, Rob
KOCH, CHARLES G MR
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES/CHAIRMAN 2/23/2010 $2,400 Pompeo, Michael Richard
KOCH, CHARLES J
NEWTON,MA 02158 BOSTON BEER COMPANY/FOUNDER 11/18/2009 $2,400 Capuano, Michael E
KOCH, CHARLES MR
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES, INC./CHAIRMAN 7/27/2010 $2,400 Paul, Rand
KOCH, CHARLES MR
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES INC./CHAIRMAN 3/17/2010 $2,400 Rubio, Marco
KOCH, CHARLES MR
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES/CHAIRMAN OF THE BOA 5/21/2010 $2,400 Toomey, Pat
KOCH, CHARLES MR
WICHITA,KS 67201 KOCH INDUSTRIES/CHAIRMAN OF THE BOA 5/14/2010 $2,400 Toomey, Pat
KOCH, CHARLES
CLEVELAND,OH 44108 CHARTER ONE BANK/PRESIDENT 5/12/2009 $2,000 LaTourette, Steven C
KOCH, CHARLES MR
MIDLAND,TX 79710 11/12/2010 $600 National Republican Congressional Cmte
KOCH, CHARLES E
MIDLAND,TX 79710 N/A/RETIRED 7/19/2010 $500 Roskam, Peter
KOCH, CHARLES E DR
VENICE,FL 34285 RETIRED/RETIRED 2/9/2010 $500 West, Allen B
KOCH, CHARLES E DR
VENICE,FL 34285 RETIRED/RETIRED 12/22/2009 $500 West, Allen B
KOCH, CHARLES MR
VENICE,FL 34285 RETIRED/RETIRED 12/4/2009 $500 Rubio, Marco
KOCH, CHARLES MR
VENICE,FL 34285 9/20/2010 $500 Rubio, Marco
KOCH, CHARLES MR
VENICE,FL 34285 10/1/2010 $500 Rubio, Marco
KOCH, CHARLES MR
VENICE,FL 34285 RETIRED/RETIRED 4/14/2010 $500 Rubio, Marco
KOCH, CHARLES E
VENICE,FL 34285 NONE/RETIRED 9/30/2010 $252 Broun, Paul Jr
KOCH, CHARLES
VENICE,FL 34285 9/25/2009 $250 Broun, Paul Jr
KOCH, CHARLES
VENICE,FL 34285 RETIRED/RETIRED 2/10/2009 $250 Senate Conservatives Fund
KOCH, CHARLES P MR
CITRA,FL 32113 OAK LANE FARM/FARMER 4/21/2010 $250 National Republican Congressional Cmte
KOCH, CHARLES J MR
LOUISVILLE,KY 40241 RETIRED/RETIRED 6/15/2009 $200 Republican National Cmte
KOCH, CHARLES J MR
LOUISVILLE,KY 40241 RETIRED/RETIRED 4/15/2010 $200 Republican National Cmte
KOCH, CHARLES J MR
LOUISVILLE,KY 40241 RETIRED/RETIRED 11/9/2009 $200 Republican National Cmte
KOCH, CHARLES
WICHITA,KS 67201 8/23/2010 $-2,400 Tiahrt, Todd
Amusingly there is also a Democrat Bostonian Charles Koch who gave thousands to Martha Coakley.
And I’m SURE its a coincidence that Koch Industries, whose income comes from oil and coal production, funds anti-climate change, anti-Peak Oil propaganda and also, for example, favors intercity buses over high-speed rail.
I’m beginning to see that “socialist” may not be sufficiently taggy enough to de4scribe you, mclaren.
I could give a shit if the Koch brothers DO fund the Reason Foundation. There is nothing evil about that.
Well, maybe in YOUR world, but not here outside your basement.
funds anti-climate change, anti-Peak Oil propaganda
Yes, yes, of course, like the episode of Nova I saw just the other day on Climate Change that would make you proud. In big bold letters, funding provided by “David Koch”
The Chinatown and similar buses from DC to NYC cost $35-50 roundtrip. Amtrak cost 2-3 times as much, and appear to be less safe and more conducive to TSA fascism.
Your views don’t sound very anti-statist. More ruling class parrot.
high-speed rail
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being a liberal means having the state guide the way out. Being an eco-libertarian (not saying that mclaren is) would take the position that market forces, especially not having inflation rates which actively discourage long-term thinking, and honoring property rights, are the way to solve the problem.
Government manipulation of markets aside, $6 a gallon gas would be a welocme price signal. Unless you live in a fantasy land where exponential oil use can continue forever.
I’m a left-anarchist (really the ONLY anarchists are left-wing, “Anarcho”capitalists are really just neo-Feudalists).
I smell a “libertarian socialist’ in our midst…
…well, heavier on the latter than the former, of course.
I’m not a “libertarian” of any kind.
Anarchist, full stop.
Oh, just a socialist then. Got it.
God, you know nothing about Anarchism. I fucking hate Marxists, and I especially hate milquetoast “Social Democrats”.
You come here parroting AGW bullshit and slam capitalism, then claim to “hate Marxists”. How quaint.
Marxists supported and apologized for one (two, really, including Mao-era China) of the worst state tyrannies in human history. Fuck them.
I want to smash ALL hierarchies.
“I want to smash ALL hierarchies.”
Undergraduate-level resentment that results in Harrison Bergeron-style vengeance. There will always be people smarter and more attractive, e.g., than you, and there is not one damned thing you can do to “smash those hierarchies.” Only a child would mistake that for some sort of life goal.
Do the best with what you’ve got, and do no harm to people out of envy.
“I want to smash ALL hierarchies.”
It’d take a lot of power to do that, which would imply that you were at the top of a heirarchy.
What you really want is to rule.
Anarchist, full stop
Anarcho-Communist, anarcho-syndicalist, or Mutualist??? Y9ou certainly don’t strike me as an anarcho-primitivist.
mclaren|1.1.11 @ 1:44PM|#
You think I’m a liberal?
mclaren|1.1.11 @ 2:16PM|#
I’m a left-anarchist
I KNOW I AM, BUT WHAT AM I???
OK, whoever is trolling as mclaren, you were doing so well…
IIRC, under feudalism the serfs were only required to forfeit 1/3 of what they produced to their lords. That’s a fair bit less than modern taxes are costing me. If I have to choose between the feudalists and the socialists, the feudalists are offering this serf the better deal, hands down.
But under either the ruling class gets to have a seignorial rights to your daughter’s maidenhood. And under modern systems of credit and lending the socialists also have seignorial rights to your children’s and grandchildren’s incomes. The feudalists had invented that yet.
really the ONLY anarchists are left-wing, “Anarcho”capitalists are really just neo-Feudalists.
The power structure in Feudalism is governed by birthright. In anarcho-capitalism, it’s governed by the invisible hand, and ultimately, by the consumer.
Slight difference.
“Toolbags like you are fucked, though, as is our entire economy. The Happy American Way of Life ™ with its carbon-intensive, wasteful, high-polluting ways is at an end.”
So? I’ll buy an electric car.
Tesla, bitchez.
http://www.teslamotors.com/roadster
I heard there is a $7,500 tax credit on those.
Lol–yeah, hope you have a nice store of canned goods saved up for when it happens, too, because believe it or not, there’s these things called “semi-trucks” that bring all that food to your Walkable Mass-Transit Urban Paradise. When fuel goes up, the cost of food goes up, and in an urban wasteland, no one gives a crap how sophisticated the local coffeeshop-cum-community center is when people are trying to eat.
If the suburbs go down, you’re going down right along with them.
Everyone else already go there. We all know Carter is back in office.
Hey, Big Chief Speaks-Much-Says-Little is here!
Jeepers, mclaren, don’t you have a dog to groom, or something?
For fucks sake, confusing an Anarchist with a Marxist is like confusing a neoconservative with a “libertarian”.
If it quacks like a Marxist…
They’re actually dumber than Marxists. They accept all the garbage about wage slavery, et al, and then deny that a property-less society requires central planning.
They’ve never heard of the Tragedy of Commons, apparently.
I’m a left-anarchist
So, you wear a mask and throw things through store windows during WTO meetings?
How do we distinguish you from an ordinary smash-and-grab thief? Is it even possible?
Do some reading, toolbag:
http://www.infoshop.org/page/AnAnarchistFAQ
Theft? PROPERTY itself IS THEFT.
Especially read the part about the pitfalls of Marxism:
http://www.infoshop.org/page/AnarchistFAQAppendix3
And there it is, the obligatory anti-property rights plank. I knew I was right about you.
Stealing is OK in their version of anarchy.
I’d bet $3.50 that mclaren would be mighty pissed if someone broke into his home and stole his GoBots and He-Man and the Masters of the Universe collectibles…
Hey, in their original packaging, there might be some value for nostalgic Gen-Xers.
Sorry leftover airhead, that just means you are a thug with a website.
For real anti-statism the FAQ people would read is:
http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/anarfaq.htm
“Theft? PROPERTY itself IS THEFT.”
WTF – that tired old, moronic con game again? Tell ya what, genius, has it ever occured to you that the concept of “theft”, to be a valid one, is dependent on the concept of legitimately owned “property?” That is to say, unless it is legitimate to own property, there can be no such thing as theft, or the taking of that which rightfully belongs to another.
Please send me your computer. It will help with your guilt. I know you aren’t at the library, because it’s closed for the day.
Are you one of those super-badass “anarchists” who curbstomps executive assistants going to dinner with their boyfriends? That would be totally awesome, and we would all respect you.
Are you one of those “libertarians” that supports bombing federal buildings in Oklahoma?
You are deeply confused. There are no grounds — in either facts or logic — on which to confound McVeigh’s position with libertarianism:
http://volokh.com/2010/04/20/t…..movements/
I imagine that “smashing all heirarchies” would require bombing a few federal buildings. mcclaren just wants to bomb some private buildings as well. That’s what makes him unique and special.
Only if piss ants like you are in them during the detonation. You believe in sacrificing the individual for the common good, following Shaw’s Fabian socialist axiom that people who do not contribute to society should be done away with.
So the biggest contribution you could make would be to light a stick of dynamite and insert it.
Or how about those “libertarians” who turn themselves blue because they’re scared of fluoride in the water? That guy was great.
If you don’t care about property rights, and are for smashing all hierarchies… why are you bringing up the OKC bombing in a negative light?
Actually, I’m surprised you’re not a cheerleader for events like the OKC bombing, mclaren… you’re much closer to being in favor of that happening, than any of the regulars who post here.
That’s a funny anarchist position — defending the government water authorities. Whatever the truth is about dosing skin and all beverages with fluoride is for all people of all ages (NB: one side fits all state programs are almost always guaranteed to kill, maim, or under-serve someone, since we are not all alike), it is well known that government water monopolies have been dosing people with bacteria and high lead levels, while suppressing the evidence.
DC was one of the cities imbibing lead for decades, which may explain a lot: http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..03489.html
I dunno…cause I’m against baby-killing? Crazy, I know!
I was also making a rhetorical point about Brooks lame attempt at guilt-by-association.
Asswipe.
Well, that clears things right the fuck up, then.
Property is theft.
I want to smash all hierarchies
Shit, dude, you should be glad Dave Bing wants to bulldoze those houses.
But what if one of those houses was full of babies? mclaren would have a field day deciding that one.
Oh, I’m thrilled that American capitalism is finally coming undone. It’s beautiful to watch it fall to the fucking ground. Even more beautiful than when the USSR collapsed.
How contradictory can one man be?
What’s coming undone is late stage disaster statism, and an economy based on centrally planned interest rates and government owned and controlled money supplies.
And state provided “education,” which produces bots like you.
Anarchist? More like just a garden variety, old-fashioned nihilist.
Property is theft, parenthood is slavery.
mclaren (Reader’s Digest Version):
BONK, BONK!!
So, P Brooks, are you one of those “libertarians” that turns themselves blue due to paranoid delusions, or the kind that stockpiles weapons and ammo to bomb federal buildings and shoot government agents with?
Or are you the nutty tax protester kind?
I’ve never met an anarchist who looks down his nose at bombing federal buildings while espousing the smashing of all hierarchies. This is most enlightening.
The question was addressed to P Brooks.
Yeah, I know. I also have the right to respond, unless you’d like to try to take that away from me.
Which I suspect you would, given the power.
Not your right to respond, it’s your computer he wants to take from you. After all, since property is theft, you stole it in the first place.
+1
…to KPres
Oh, yeah, thanks for the reminder… I *did* steal this computer, from a guy on Craigslist, after I gave him some of my stolen money which I stole from my employer after he stole X number of hours per week.
I’ve never met an anarchist who looks down his nose at bombing federal buildings while espousing the smashing of all hierarchies.
Or an anarchist who supports the paying of taxes to the government. I don’t think he knows want anarchist means.
I know, Libertarians are so nutty right? Not like the pillars of wisdom such as yourself.
All that I have seen you post so far is rambling walls of text and some amazingly emotional statements about how “fucked” we are.
Sorry, we’ve all heard about the Kochs several times. In fact, its the cornerstone of reason comment bingo (or the drinking game for adults).
I don’t care if your society is more centralized and less dependent on oil for cars, high oil prices will have a negative effect on where you live too.
Buses are a more effective form of public transportation than trains for a number of reasons. THe main one being that trains only make economic sense when you can guarantee ridership and the city is laid out specifically around the train system.
Libertarians are not “neo-feudalists.” Saying such a thing simply reveals your own ignorance.
Property is not “theft.” IF I produce something or trade for something with another voluntary participant, how has theft occurred? Ironically, you don’t consider the removal of somebody else’s property to be theft…..
When does a leftover or demwit EVER not saying something stupid, if his mouth is open anyway?
We could have weekly contest to find a single intelligent comment of the week by an Obama felcher.
I doubt any of the trolls here would ever place or show. And Schoen, Powers, and Stoddard would be the only winners.
I’m also going to go out on a limb here and guess you’re white, male, hetero, middle aged, and work in a computer-related field.
Typical libtards.
If it quacks like a liberal…
Oh, and why are you using a computer?
With all that tribalism, racism, ageism, etc, I’d say he sounds more like a so-con.
Work the polylogism Comrade! Heil!
I’m also going to go out on a limb here and guess you’re white, male, hetero, middle aged, and work in a computer-related field.
And I’m going to guess that you are a bigot who stereotypes people, but I don’t think I’ll have to go out on a limb to do so.
Actually, I’m one of those radical “Leave me the fuck alone, and I’ll leave you the fuck alone” libertarians.
Don’t you see that through not stealing and hurting others you are stealing and hurting from others, so you need to steal and hurt others in order to not…oh fuck it, this level of idiocy is not even worth satirizing.
The first thing they did in those anarchist societies in Spain in the 19th century was confiscate everybody’s money, and institute the death penalty for anyone caught using money.
http://mises.org/daily/2197
mcclaren doesn’t like killing babies. Everybody else is fair game, though.
The appearance of mcClaren on her and his ludicrous claim of being a “left anarchist” reminds me of the reappearance of the Cloward Piven strategy discussed here
http://pajamasmedia.com/ronrad…..for-today/
Depsite what clowns like McClaran think, the US will never be Europe. Europe is full of well behaved unarmed people who thugs like him can intimidate. But the US is not like that. It is inside a few of the nicer areas of the coast cities. But the rest of the country is one big well armed Jacksonian rabble.
Part of me really hopes that they try to Cloward Piven strategy. Shitstains like McClaren are great when it comes to going after defenseless Starbucks. But they wouldn’t stand a chance against a fifth rate street gang, let alone the public at large. I would love to think I am living well enough to have the left anarchists come to my neighborhood hoping to fight the power and be able to set up with a high powered rifle in one of my upstairs rooms and shoot anarchists for sport. And I have brothers, cousins, friends and the like who are practically praying for the same thing. The new left tried this shit in the 60s but they really only succeeded in suckering poor black people into burning down their own neighborhoods. They never actually tried to attack middle class America. I think this time they might really be that stupid.
Redneck Tuff Gai is Tuff!
Fucking tool thinks his little bb guns are going to protect him in the age of Peak Oil and Climate change.
It won’t be me that comes into your town–it will be hordes of desperate illegal refugees fleeing the coming drought in Mexico due to Climate Change.
Have fun!
redneck
Add “elitist” to the list of mclaren-descriptors.
Can’t be. Anarcho-socialists are egalitarian. It says so on their website.
Is that a DRINK?
Millions of Mexicans coming over the boarder? Wow, good thing that has never happened in the past. Jesus you are a racist piece of shit. If the millions come, they will do like the millions who have come in the past; get jobs and become Americans.
Honestly, Reason needs to moderate these boards. Stupidity is one thing. But racism like your comment should be beyond the pale.
They’re going to be desperate, hungry refugees coming in by the millions because their country is going to be buttfucked by Climate Change almost as hard as India. They’ll bankrupt the government (if our endless wars and are ridiculous defense budget (10%+ of GDP) haven’t by then.
Speaking of our defense budget, why are we wasting money on 13 carrier groups when China is developing a big, giant dildo to ass fuck our navy with known as the Dong Feng missile? It can sink a carrier group to the bottom of the fucking ocean in minutes, and they can do nothing to stop them.
First of all, the Defense budget, even if you include all of the homeland security budget and whatnot is more like 7% of GDP, but hey, who cares about specifics when you have an emotional rant to get out.
MOst of the carriers were built long ago, so it’s not like we are “wasting” money on them. They are a sunk cost. Once they are completely obsolete, they will be dispensed with. FYI, I’m a big proponent of scaling back the military budget, and I would love to get rid of half of our aircraft carriers.
ALso, the US has wasted just as much or more money than China in developing ballistics missile technology.
YOu sound like such a twat with your penis size comparisons of nations that completely ignore a multitude of factors. You measure nations by superficial standards while spouting emotional statements that make you sound ignorant.
People who criticize Maoism will soon not be allowed on the net, comrade.
What’s all this homophobic trashing of butt fucking?
Though I would recommend skull fucking for you, since it would temporarily stop that unpleasant farting noise you constantly make.
Yawn. You act like American carrier groups don’t contain Aegis equipped cruisers and destroyers that hold things like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_missile_3
Oh, darn. Those evil Chinese have developed a missile we already have a defense against, and are willing to start a war with their number one trading partner because of… what exactly? While I don’t credit the leading commies with a lot of brains, I don’t think even they are that dumb.
Fight for the Fatherland Comrade!
You feeling stabby in the new year?
Jeeze man cheer up, there is a night time winter classic on tonight. Don’t let this commie troll get you down.
I’m shutting down the ‘puter for a while. There’s a Stooges marathon on A&E, and I have a six-pack of Tommyknocker Cocoa Porter to whittle upon.
Later, folkage.
Larry Sanders show is on IFC and Buffy is on Logo.
Thats’ cool, but I got a Mystery Science Theater 3000 box set for Festivus, and I just got done watching Monster A Go-Go. God, was it painful.
“V” was replayed again last night, as a precursor to the second season beginning. But I missed most of it!
But the thought of popping people like him at various ranges is a really happy one.
Sight in your scopes first. No point in wasting ammo, especially with the coming apocalypse.
That “night time winter classic” was the absolute worst thing ever in the history of the universe, btw. And I can’t really blame it on all the climate change going on since the Caps had to deal with the same slush.
This country is so fucked.
Pens played a prime time candy coated version of their game and got spanked for it. Where was the traffic in front of Varmolov? I also saw a lot of players let up before a hit.
Soff, dey soff. Dey act like dey care but dey don’t care.
Oh well, the Caps got their Stanley Cup substitute, and Staal looked like he hasn’t missed a beat. Still 40 games to go.
I went to the alumni game, and must say that Paul Coffey looked awesome out there. Dude is super competitive.
Oh, and its spelled “despite”, and I won’t even begin to correct your atrocious grammar.
If your shooting skills are anything like your writing skills I would have nothing to worry about, toolbag.
Those who can’t think worry about others’ spelling. It must have taken a lot of work to get as stupid as you seem to be and to have such an incoherent world view. Like insanity, real stupidity can’t be faked.
OH wow! Are we really going to get into an internet grammar pissing match now. Jesus Christ…..
You’re actually criticizing John’s spelling? Hahahahahahahaha! God, you really are new around here, aren’t you? Dude! We gave up bitching about his spelling a long time ago – it was a waste of time.
I would love to think I am living well enough to have the left anarchists come to my neighborhood hoping to fight the power and be able to set up with a high powered rifle in one of my upstairs rooms and shoot anarchists for sport. And I have brothers, cousins, friends and the like who are practically praying for the same thing.
Wishing to be attacked for the right to commit ‘justifiable’ murder is creepy and morally disgusting.
Just don’t grin and they won’t see you.
Wishing to be attacked for the right to commit ‘justifiable’ murder is creepy and morally disgusting.
Tell that to Timothy Olyphant.
Does that mean I can’t go on TV and burn Palin effigies or discuss raping her and her 11 year old daughter anymore?
Your original wordbarrage indicated you’re deeply distressed by all the bad things happening everywhere, but later you say you’re thrilled.
Which is it?
I’m not distressed by bad things happening, I’m distressed that people refuse to face facts and instead distract themselves by delusions and sucking corporate cock.
As someone who doesn’t believe in having a state you seemed pretty upset that states were cutting their budgets.
Do you have any solutions, or are you just another doomtroll?
mclaren, Reason’s commenters never suck corporate cock- that’s a ridiculous fucking insult.
How dare you disparage their character and misstate the facts: they take corporate cock up the ass.
What you bigots don’t understand is that we don’t have an irrational hatred of those not like us, as you do, and so don’t get our feelings hurt when compared to someone in your despised class. Comments like this only show your ignorance and make us laugh.
…and make us laugh. Simple isn’t it?
Both? Maybe he’s a masochist and gets sexual pleasure out being degraded. He did bring up butt fucking to explain immigration and climate change scenarios.
Do not feed the mclaren troll, people. I’m normally all for playing with my food, but you’re all getting played here.
But it’s ever so much fun!
He may be one of the regulars trolling. But, there really are people out there who are this stupid. Go read the DU sometimes. I can’t believe all of those clowns are Republicans trolling.
Yes Virginia, people really are this stupid.
And really Episiarch, a real troll would be funnier and more fun to bait. Hell Juanita is more coherent than this clown.
Epi if you don’t want to play, go back to the jerk circle.
Who the fuck is this mclaren character? This is the first I’ve seen him spew his idiocy, but you all act like he’s been here for a long time. I feel like I’ve missed out.
View yesterday’s thread, dope. I tangled with the troll then. But I don’t think it’s real, because it suddenly went all confrontational.
Wow, calling me a dope, such a well-reasoned response!
Let me know when you can respond on my intellectual level, until then go play with your Star Wars figurines and let the adults talk.
Typical libtard! Go suck Ron Paul’s cock!
It’s Ron Pual.
I have an original Han Solo! And a Boba Fett!
I have a Princess Leia blow up doll.
Every time he tries to stick it in my mouth, I turn my head. The hair gel comes in handy for my braided buns.
By the way, Carrie Fisher’s autobiographical special on HBO right now is worth seeing.
Epi, sometimes I think that you may actually deserve the shitty enemies that follow you around. Yep, for sure.
You sound like a moron. Congratulations.
Calling people ‘morons’, real mature.
If you can’t have an intelligent conversation without insulting people, then maybe you should post somewhere else. Go away and play while the adults talk.
Pretty sure he’s been here before, in between posting on DU and maybe skinhead websites.
I think you’re mostly distressed that your team lost their shot at “cap-and-trade”; slapping a three dollar per gallon tax on it is the only way we’d see six dollar per gallon gas in the near future.
Ahahahaha.
$6/gallon by July. Bookmark it.
We will book that right next to it never snowing in Britain again and the Democrats controlling the Congress for the next generation.
Oh, I never thought the Democrats would hold onto power. I predict Palin in 2012, and dumbass Americans will get what they deserve good and fucking hard.
What do Americans deserve again?
Notice he doesn’t mention the fucking we’re getting right here and now by the Obama Hierarchy. One suspects he’s all for that sort of thing.
Talk is cheap. How much would you be willing to bet me on that proposition?
If he actually believed that, he would be investing in gasoline futures. If the price of a commodity is going to effectively double in six months, there is big money to be made.
Dude, commies don’t have any money.
gasoline ‘futures’ are tough since the pump price doesn’t necessarily correlate with the bulk commodity price.
(By Alton Brown)
Ingredients
3 pounds stew meat (beef, pork, and/or lamb)
2 teaspoons peanut oil
1 1/2 teaspoons kosher salt
1 (12-ounce) bottle of beer, preferably a medium ale
1 (16-ounce) container salsa
30 tortilla chips
2 chipotle peppers canned in adobo sauce, chopped
1 tablespoon adobo sauce (from the chipotle peppers in adobo)
1 tablespoon tomato paste
1 tablespoon chili powder
1 teaspoon ground cumin
Directions
Place the meat in a large mixing bowl and toss with the peanut oil and salt. Set aside.
Heat a 6-quart heavy-bottomed pressure cooker over high heat until hot. Add the meat in 3 or 4 batches and brown on all sides, approximately 2 minutes per batch. Once each batch is browned, place the meat in a clean large bowl.
Once all of the meat is browned, add the beer to the cooker to deglaze the pot.
Scrape the browned bits from the bottom of the pot. Add the meat back to the pressure cooker along with the salsa, tortilla chips, chipotle peppers, adobo sauce, tomato paste, chili powder, and ground cumin and stir to combine. Lock the lid in place according to the manufacturer’s instructions. When the steam begins to hiss out of the cooker, reduce the heat to low, just enough to maintain a very weak whistle. Cook for 25 minutes. Remove from the heat and carefully release the steam. Serve immediately.
I’ve used a pressure cooker to soften my chili meat quickly. It works quite well.
$6/gallon by July.
What cataclysm will bring this about?
Will Prince William break off the engagement, and cause riots throughout the Commonwealth?
Hell the monetary inflation alone could trigger $6 gas, and $10 bread. But that won’t be, probably for another 2 years, not 7 months.
John, here’s some good stupidity:
http://dailykosbeta.com/user/Democrats Ramshield
My God, what will the GERMANS think of us?
I’m left of center on some things but the self-loathing the left displays for being American is pretty damn indicting. I’ve never seen anything like it in any other country. It’s fucking pathological.
I think at heart, they feel guilty for living in such a nice country. I really think that is what drives the whole political world view. Think about it. It would suck to be born in Haiti or somewhere. It is only by chance we were born in such a nice place. Some people I think can’t handle that. And their entire political identity is defined by the resulting guilt and self loathing.
I think Al Franken best described this years ago. Conservatives like John love their country the way a kid loves his mother, he wants to fight you if you say anything bad about her and repeats to himself that his mother is perfect. Liberals love the nation the way a grown up loves his mother, they are aware of mom’s shortcomings but love the silly lady nonetheless.
Jesus Christ, just shut the fuck up.
Someone still didn’t get panties that fit them this Xmas…
One need not be bedeviled with ill-fitting undergarments to loathe Al Franken.
Yeah, the silly lady they’d love to euthanize, after stealing every dime she ever made.
Don’t be ridiculous. Their type of intellect could only come from a test-tube.
Besides, they’re not “breeders”.
I think Al Franken best described this years ago.
I apologize for missing the part that indicated you were writing a joke.
I think he meant that Liberals love America like a Melendez brother loves his mother.
But they were promised ice cream!
Regarding the Franken quote, no one can beat a liberal at the game of self-congratulation.
Whatever it takes to boost self-esteem, MNG.
“I think Al Franken best described this years ago. Conservatives like John love their country the way a kid loves his mother, he wants to fight you if you say anything bad about her and repeats to himself that his mother is perfect. Liberals love the nation the way a grown up loves his mother, they are aware of mom’s shortcomings but love the silly lady nonetheless.”
I have to admit I’ve long thought of people who identify themselves primarily as either “liberal” or “conservative” as having an overly simplistic view of the world.
But anybody who thinks other people (like John) can be reduced to such simplistic terms should probably be ridiculed for their own good.
…and just for the record, I’d be highly insulted if somebody said I was so dumb, I thought something Al Franken said was poignant.
That’s funny, MNG, I read lots of stuff by conservatives criticizing the US for running out of control deficits, indulging in perverse political correctness and even some criticizing the drug war and incarceration rates. These do not strike me as people unaware of “their mother’s” shortcomings.
Some even criticize the cultural cringe that some other Americans seem to have at not being able to live up to Europe’s cultural, intellectual and political superiority.
As for that “expat living in the EU” Kos commenter, I’m still struck by the fact that EU expats living in the US still seem to outnumber US expats living in the EU by a pretty substantial amount.
Quoting Al Franken? Seriously? You might as well stand on a box if Tide and proclaim yourself ruler of the lilputians and ninnies.
Really, did you just quote Al Franken to make a point? Dude, no. Just no.
Part of me actually feels a little sorry for the psycho left, since scientists recently discovered that their insanity is partially due to having a defective DRD4 gene which negatively impacts their dopamine receptors.
Oooh, I know!
Bomb, bomb, bomb,
bomb bomb Iraaaaaaaaaan!
What did I win?
Fucking squirrels
With the right makeover Welch could look more like Ben Affleck’s cousin than like Chuck Todd.
I think Al Franken best described this years ago.
The science psychosis is settled!
I dont get it, what difference does it make? LOL
http://www.anon-web-tools.edu.tc
Roll Tide. Someone had to say it. You’re welcome.
the 3 inch spear tip in my hips thinks that this a ruse to disguise an inner-office mustache competition going on at reason.
It also thinks the Welshman has no chance against Nicks superior roman man hair genes.
At first, cultural restrictions meant that deaths from traditional conflict were relatively rare, and few shrunken heads were prepared. When westerners created an economic demand for shrunken heads, however, there was a sharp increase in the rate of killings in an effort to supply collectors and tourists. Guns were usually what the Shuar acquired in exchange for their shrunken heads, the rate being one gun per head. But weapons were not the only items exchanged; during the 1930s, when heads were freely exchanged, a person could buy a shrunken head for about twenty-five dollars. A stop was put to this when the Peruvian and Ecuadorian governments worked together to outlaw the traffic in heads.
Since the 1940s, it has been illegal to import shrunken heads into the United States. In 1999, the National Museum of the American Indian repatriated the authentic shrunken heads in its collection to Ecuador. Most other countries have also banned the trade. Currently, replica shrunken heads are manufactured as curios for the tourist trade. These are made from leather and animal hides formed to resemble the originals.
Fun,I was just looking for a story about a British politician’s brother who accidently engaged in cannibalism in Africa during the same time period. Do you know It?
MNG, as Warty has rightly said, “Jesus Christ, just shut the fuck up.” You haven’t ever contributed anything original or even remotely clever to this website, so far as I can tell. You’re just a slightly more well-spoken version of Chony, and to be quiet honest, I like them a lot more than I like you; at least they’re funny, you’re just a bore.
But if you’re intent on sticking around, could you at least put down your copy of “Das Kapital” and find some new material? I’m sure everyone here would appreciate it.
Who the fuck are you? Hell I never even noticed your name before.
I have a message for Warty too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?f…..verified=1
“and to be quiet honest”
You can go back to being quiet honest now…
TL;DR
guessing that China guy is pwning you all again
Does that goatee come with its own porn soundtrack in the background?
“I’m here to fix the cable.”
Don’t be fatuous, Jeffrey.
Austan Goolsbee, chairman of the U.S. Council of Economic Advisers, said if Congress fails to raise the debt ceiling, the “impact on the economy would be catastrophic.”
“I don’t see why anybody’s playing chicken with the debt ceiling,” Goolsbee said today on ABC’s “This Week” program. “If we get to the point where we damage the full faith and credit of the United States, that would be the first default in history caused purely by insanity.”
hier
I wonder where Goolsbee will be working for in six months. Bank of America? Pimco? G E Capital?
I’ve got my money on GE capital or Citi.
I’m watching it, now. Goolsbee has been on a steady diet of stupid pills, apparently.
ARMAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!11!!
Golsbee, The Bernank, Obama, Congress, Bush, Cheney, Anyone in any regulatory position even remotely tied to money…
Longest end of the world evah!
Sweet- George Clooney is bringing his immeasurable intellect to bear on Africa. It’s as good as fixed.
What spending would i cut ??????????
Blast from the past…
Austan Goolsbee is a free market economist who Obama would like to put on his Council of Economic Advisers.
He would be an unabashedly free market voice in Obama’s ear. Let me repeat that: He would be a free market economist, giving Obama advice
Goolsbee got pumped up by a lot of people. I never really got why. He always seemed to talk out of both sides of his mouth. One side free market, the other side control.
Anyone who takes an appointment is automatically useless. I think that is probably a given at this point.
He actually reminded me of most of my economics professors. I had a running joke with a few other students about how far into the semester the professor would say, “I’m believe in the free markets, but…”
Only 2 managed to stop before the “but.”
Anyone who takes an appointment is automatically useless. I think that is probably a given at this point.
I’ve wondered what Volker does all day.
Lend a false sense of credibility to a panel of retarded monkeys.
I want my daddy’s cock
I’d bet Epi’s ass that the IP address for my little spoof goes back to a university in Waltham, Massachusetts. Should I ask them to check?