The Dreaded NYPD Gambit
Whip out your "Chess Playing is Not a Crime" t-shirts, aging punks, they are needed in this hour.
The story from Gothamist:
The seven men were given summonses for being inside of Emerson Playground, a children's play area off limits to adults unaccompanied by minors. But the men were in an area filled with stone chess and backgammon tables, completely separated from the play area by a fence. Inwood residents were angry upon discovering what happened, because many of those ticketed were the same people who taught their children how to play chess in that very park over the past several years….
Captain Jose Navarro of the 34th Precinct told DNAinfo he had reviewed the ticket and stood by his officers giving the seven men summons for "Fail[ing] to comply with signs." "Under my direction, uniformed officers routinely enter the parks to enforce closing times and other regulations; all designed to protect the community,"
Protect, or fundraise through pointless fines, such picayune distinctions, surely not worthy of the attention of New York's Finest. (That this is all rooted in societal paranoia about every adult meaning fearful harm to all children not their own is interesting as well.)
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Hey, the cops have to pay the rent somehow. At least they aren't busting up cupcake sales. Today, that is. As far as I know.
As far as cupcakes go that sounds like a better way of raising money than traffic tickets. It will piss off fewer people. Bake sales work for schools, why not cities?
area off limits to adults unaccompanied by minors
Wow, that's a switch.
Seriously, that's one of the most bizarre things I've read in a while.
There are parks like that in SF. It's intended to keep the vagrants out. In the Tenderloin, which has the highest population density of any neighborhood in the city, there are many immigrant families with young children, and keeping the street people out of the parks is the only way to keep them free of needles, piss, and feces. Sad but true.
"lolwut?" Was my official first reaction.
Bruce: Do you know what it means to have "contempt" for the police?
Josh: No.
Bruce: It means to hate them. You have to hate them Josh, they hate you.
Josh: But I don't hate them.
Bruce: Well you'd better start.
Well, I think it wins the thread, but I may be the only one who recognizes the reference.
Second that. Nice.
What's the reference ??
Where I live there's a section of the beach marked off for dogs and their owners. It's a really cool place to visit, but I'm always leery of going by there without a dog -- certain that there must a similar law on the books.
Yeah, you wouldn't want people thinking you molest dogs like Captain Jose Navarro of the 34th Precinct may or may not do.
Well, as the object of chess is to "mate" your opponent...
The same people who talk about how "it takes a village to raise a child" are behind these kinds of laws that pretty much make it illegal for adults to have any contact with children. And that pretty much destroys any sense of community. They don't want a village. They want a government. It takes a government to raise a child in their view. Assholes.
but we have to protect the children! Won't somebody pleeeeeease think of the children?!
When they said "village," they meant women. Daughters, aunts, grandmas, spinsters, etc. The whole ya ya sisterhood. Men are rapists.
But, they do want a village.
(That this is all rooted in societal paranoia about every adult meaning fearful harm to all children not their own is interesting as well.)
I didn't understand this at all until recently, but now it all makes sense. Any adult you meet on the street could be a TSA screener. We should all be afraid.
Win
Two by two, hands of blue.
+14 (episodes)
Any adult you meet on the street could be a TSA screener
Implying that they enjoy having to pat down the public? Have you seen the public? I seriously doubt that there is one TSA agent in the nation who enjoys having to perform the new "enhanced" screening regimen. The class-hate thing is old and mean-spirited and unbecoming of "libertarians."
Take a couple of valiums. Breathe deep. Relax.
At the risk of feeding a troll, they probably aren't getting a purely sexual satisfaction out of it, but I don't doubt a lot of them are getting a kick out of it due to the power trip aspects of being able to get far enough into someone's personal space that it would be considered sexual assault if a "civilian" did it. It doesn't help that the TSA tends to draw from the type whose previous career goals involved ruling the mall food court with an iron fist since they lacked the discipline and wits to get the opportunity to power trip as real cops.
All the more reason to insist on a pat down. Make them hate their jobs. Make them dread coming to work every day.
I'm planning on starting to pee during the pat-down. A nice fart wouldn't hurt, either, especially when the screener's head is down there as well.
I like the way your sick mind works.
"I'm sorry, Officer, I get nervous at times like this."
"I seriously doubt that there is one TSA agent in the nation who enjoys having to perform the new "enhanced" screening regimen."
They don't hate it enough to quit, do they?
There are all sorts of odd fetishes out there.
were these cops accompanied by a minor while they were ticketing these filthy chess masters?
One wonders how many predators were scared away just by the presence of chess players who could witness and intervene?
Maybe the solution is security checks, biometric cards, scanners, TSA grunts and the rest at the entrance to every park???
Great point.
Seems like having adult members of the community hanging out near the kids would indeed make them a hell of a lot more safe than less safe.
The Bishops look like butt plugs. Bishops have plugged butts.
Danger Will Robinson!
The Bishop!
This is why i call for a separation of church and chess.
So I made the mistake of poking around the rest of Gothamist.
http://gothamist.com/2010/11/1.....nced_f.php
thread jack
has everyone seen this?
http://www.nytimes.com/interac.....s=hm6m901b
I haven't seen it on hit&run;, but maybe I missed it.
Anyway, those are the choices I selected.
You should have checked more boxes.
It's so easy, why are they having trouble again?
The most amazing one is the Medicare cap. A no brainer.
There's probably a couple more I could have checked for sure. But it did the job.
I would have liked a bit more detail on some of them though.
Either way, 5 mins = balanced budget. Pretty cool.
I checked an awful lot of boxes. Does this make me the next head of the OMB? Because we're going to have a boom after I'm done hacking away at the budget.
The other day they had it at the end of a post.
You can balanced it without any new taxes and have a surplus.
Here's my optimized-for-political-feasibility plan that actually runs moderate surpluses, allowing some wiggle room. No cuts in Social Security or Medicare payouts for most people and tax hikes primarly for the rich only. Eligibility at 70 would be the only really hard to sell aspect and it could moved down to 68 with some more tax hikes if necessary. The Medicare cap would involve per capita benefit cuts due to demographic trends, so it would be politically impossible. It's suprisingly easy to put together a politically viable proposal, which just drives home how terrible the political establishment is at making hard choices.
http://www.nytimes.com/interac.....aphic.html
you just linked to the main graphic not to your particular choices.
Also, I really don't see how to fix things without Medicare. Especially considering since at 2030 the Medicare gap is really just getting started. It gets WAY worse over the next 20 years.
I've heard it's about 40 trillion in unfunded liabilityes by 2050.
Shit, that was easy. Why the fuck are the clowns having such a problem?
Police supervisor should be an elected position.
Wiggum: Hey, it says that as chief constable I'm entitled to a pig every month. And "two comely lasses of virtue true."
Quimby: Keep the pig. How many broads do I get? (grabs the charter)
As a New Yorker and chess playing dork, all I can come up with is a muttered fuck.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11.....1&_r=1
Another threadjack. I don't see how you can read this article and not conclude good bad or indifferent Palin is running in 2012. It is actually pretty even handed.
I tend to think she's trying to establish herself as a power player, not as a politician. All of this reality TV and, of course, resigning as governor really strike me as bad ideas for aiming for the White House. After Obama, experience and a certain level of professionalism he lacks will likely be craved by the public.
Read the article. It is really interesting. It talks about why she resigned as governor. She went to some Republican operative after the 2008 election and asked him what she should do if she wants to run for President. He told her to stay as governor. Her response was that was impossible. That she had no security from the State and couldn't afford to hire it on her state salary. And that people were just walking up to her door. And that since anyone could file a personal ethics suit against the governor and the state wouldn't pay for her defense, she was going broke.
She is going to run. And honestly I don't see how any Republican stops her. She has a huge following. Who is going to beat her for the nomination? Mitt Romney? Huckabee? Maybe someone new like Jindal or Christie or Rubio. But none of the clowns for 2008 would stand a chance. None of those guys have any charisma or any appeal beyond their cronies.
President Palin is a bad idea. Similar to President Obama being a bad idea.
That is a separate issue from whether she will run and whether she will win the nomination. I think the reality is pointing to Yes on both accounts.
I don't know whether she'll run, but I bet she makes it nowhere in the primaries.
I registered as a Repub to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries, I can just as easily vote non-Palin in them too.
Not that I think I'd have to, she isn't winning shit.
I look forward to her closing every State of the Union address with a wink and a gun hand.
You know, I'm curious how often Palin actually did that. Once? Twice? Or did she not ever do it, but Tina Fey did?
She did it once. I saw it.
Oh, I agree that Huckabee and Romney have enormous issues winning the nomination. But so does Palin.
At this point in earlier nomination cycles, there has frequently been high polling for people who ended up getting little to nothing.
Granted, the GOP does like to nominate the next in line.
This is one of the reasons I think Johnson may have an outside chance as a dark horse. He's legitimately mavericky, which we usually like, and he has a somewhat clearer record of what he represents. Normally, that wouldn't be so good ("Libertarian? Run away!"), but I think anti-government sentiment will remain high for a while.
Is that the Randy Scheunemann who wanted to start World War III with Russia over its invasion of Georgia? Hell, Palin is such an establishment tool.
I guess so: Top Palin aide is on Soros' payroll.
Palin is Soros' Manchurian Candidate. I love it. That is a real tinfoil hat conspiracy.
"Under my direction, uniformed officers routinely enter the parks to enforce closing times and other regulations; all designed to protect the community,"
"Protect the community."
And serve.
Don't forget serve.
It's a cookbook!
And a dusty cookbook at that...
Soylent Doughnuts are people!
"Under my direction, uniformed officers routinely enter the parks to enforce closing times and other regulations; all designed to protect the community,"
Chess is a gateway game. It could lead to the playing of something even more serious, like video games.
Also: do chess players have dogs?
+1
http://onthebrod.tumblr.com/page/3
The desire to rule the masses will always overcome the need for common sense.
I'm thinking this is a good candidate for the next new Iron Law.
Too many words.
resigning as governor really strike me as bad ideas for aiming for the White House.
I think that resignation was a deal killer. I don't see how she could survive the "What if she can't hack it and abandons America?" ads.
When you read the fact that the state didn't provide any kind of security (and why should they?) you can see why she resigned. I would have to. You can't be a celebrity ( and she is most certainly that) and live in this country without security. The possibility of Andrew Sullivan knocking on my door alone would have made me resign if I were her.
She could certinaly have raised the money to pay for security.
politicans raise money all the time for legal defense funds. I'm not sure how this is different.
John,
Fact is irrelevant. There is no winning comeback to, "If you couldn't hack it as governor of Alaska how do you expect us to believe you won't back out of the presidency?"
Though I agree, there is one comeback: "Well, Alaskans are stupid, insane, and dangerous, and I've subjected my family to all of this publicity to make enough money to escape from that hellhole. Frankly, I think we should give Alaska back to the Russians."
What would the consequences of that be, losing Alaska?
Incidentally, I don't think any of those things about Alaska. I was just writing her speech for her.
All behavior is illegal in NYC. If these pawn-wielding maniacs live there and they don't know that?lesson time.
B) I followed all the links from here to hell about this story, and I'm left with a question:
WHAT DO THE GODDAMN SIGNS SAY?
It's a story about the signs.
Signs, signs, everywhere a sign
$#*^ing up the scenery, breaking my mind
Do this, don't do that
Can't you read the sign?
I pretty much stay away from strangers' kids for fear that someone might accuse me of something inappropriate? If your kid gets out of your supervision and is about to cross the street to get run over.. well, I'm walking the OTHER way. Don't want to scoop the kid up to keep them from getting run over and then arrested for touching someone's precious snot-nosed brat... especially since I'm a dude.
That's OK. I've got his ass.
What Matrix said.
I don't have that option. I coach children's football.
Come to think of it, we practice and play in a public park. In New York City.
"Don't want to scoop the kid up to keep them from getting run over and then arrested for touching someone's precious snot-nosed brat... especially since I'm a dude."
I'd love to do the big-brothers/big-sisters thing, but why take the chance?
Sorry kid: Not only do your parents not give a shit about you, but they are ACTIVELY voting to destroy your future.
Be sure to thank them appropriately.
If you are man and actually like kids and would like to take an interest in some of them and help them out, you better find a different form of altruism. Our society is really sick.
My God, the NYPD actually did the right thing.
We wouldn't want the youngins learning things like strategy, tactics, probability or thinking ahead.
They need to see and learn important things. Like how "to comply with signs."
I seriously doubt that there is one TSA agent in the nation who enjoys having to perform the new "enhanced" screening regimen.
But they have no option; there are orders to be followed.
Since this is a public park, hey should install the chessboards inside of soundproof, coin operated and lockable booths, with room enough for 2 men to comfortably fit inside.
I can't see anything going wrong with that.
Common people, have a little compassion for the 'boyz in blu'.
They have a very dangerous life.
They were just playing the odds.
Not likely for them getting shot by rousting some old guys playing chess.
I mean, the alternative would have been going after gang bangers and other types that could have hurt the poor policemanz.
Let's not read too much into this. It's just a shakedown. Just business. Not some grand policy statement.
The articles are missing the context -- a mother with stroller was mugged outside an Inwood playground last week. The community has been begging the police to clean up the parks. Inwood is not a rich area but it is surrounded by very impoverished areas and street crime (broken car windows, muggings, even tire thefts) have been a problem lately. The police, whose precinct is far from Inwood, are finally doing their job, nothing more. If the chess community wants tables installed outside of playgrounds they are welcome to advocate but Inwood needs safe playgrounds. The police actions are welcomed by the locals - the rest of you please stay out of it.
Then the police should be arresting muggers. Not ticketing chess players.
off limits to adults unaccompanied by minors
No, it's off limits to men unaccompanied by minors. Women wouldn't have gotten a second look by these cops.