Logical Farce
Obama's wild attacks on "foreign money" reek of desperation.
Here is a quick summary of President Obama's recent debate with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
Chamber of Commerce: The Democrats' economic policies have failed.
Obama: Look out! Foreigners!
Obama's attempt to discredit his opponents by linking them to sinister outsiders reminds us that neither major party has a monopoly on xenophobia. To some extent, crying "foreigner" reflects the president's desperation in the face of the Democrats' looming midterm losses. But it is also part of a long-term rhetorical strategy that belies his image as a sophisticated cosmopolitan eager to promote international cooperation and restore America's reputation.
Back in January, during his State of the Union address, Obama claimed Citizens United v. FEC, a decision in which the Supreme Court overturned restrictions on political speech by corporations, would allow "foreign entities" to "spend without limit in our elections." That was one of the comments that may have prompted Justice Samuel Alito, sitting in the audience, to shake his head and mouth the words "not true," since the ruling left undisturbed the 1966 ban on election-related spending by "foreign nationals."
In the same vein, Obama last week repeatedly insinuated that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is using "foreign money" to fund ads criticizing Democrats. "Just this week," he said in a speech supporting the re-election of Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, "we learned that one of the largest groups paying for these ads regularly takes in money from foreign corporations. So groups that receive foreign money are spending huge sums to influence American elections, and they won't tell you where the money for their ads comes from….This is a threat to our democracy." He said much the same thing during a campaign stop in Chicago.
Obama was referring to a ThinkProgress blog post reporting that the Chamber of Commerce receives revenue from affiliates in other countries. But as The New York Times noted, so do many other American organizations that are active in domestic political debates, "from liberal ones like the A.F.L.-C.I.O. and the Sierra Club to conservative groups like the National Rifle Association."
All these groups are legally required to keep such funds segregated from money they use to pay for political advocacy. The White House admitted it had no evidence that the Chamber of Commerce, which says "foreign money" represents 0.05 percent of its $200 million budget, has broken this rule.
"The president was not suggesting any illegality," insisted White House Counsel Bob Bauer. In other words, when Obama said "one of the largest groups paying for these ads regularly takes in money from foreign sources," he was not implying any connection between the ads and the money. He was just stringing sounds together randomly.
In terms of logical force, he might as well have been. Even if the U.S. Chamber of Commerce (or, as ThinkProgress calls it, the "Foreign-Funded 'U.S.' Chamber of Commerce") were a wholly owned subsidiary of a giant international corporation, noting that fact would do nothing to refute the group's criticism of Democratic policies.
Deploying foreign as a term of opprobrium in the context of an ad hominem attack does not exactly burnish Obama's credentials for the Nobel Peace Prize, which he won last year after less than nine months in office based on nothing more than the hope that he would be a less ugly American than his predecessor. Nor does it suggest that Obama has drawn a moral lesson from his own experience with such baseless attacks. But it is of a piece with his frequent complaints that the First Amendment allows too much speech of the wrong sort.
"If we just stand by and allow the special interests to silence anybody who's got the guts to stand up to them," Obama said in his Maryland speech, "our country is going to be a very different place." What the "special interests" are actually doing is speaking, and the president regrets that they have the freedom to do so. Who wants to silence whom?
Jacob Sullum is a senior editor at Reason and a nationally syndicated columnist.
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You know, so what if foriegn money is influencing elections. Obama is spending $2 billion a week influencing elections in Iraq and Afganistan.
Hey nothing influences the elections in Afghanistan but the President of Afghanistan.
that's not true, I'm sure I have something to do with those goat fuckers next leader
"Sullum argues that crying "foreigner" reflects not only the president's desperation in the face of the Democrats' looming midterm losses but also a long-term rhetorical strategy that belies his image as a sophisticated cosmopolitan eager to promote international cooperation and restore America's reputation."
Desperate? Totally? Totally lame? Totally. Long-term rhetorical strategy? I doubt it.
Hello, Vanneman.
Maybe not a *concious* long-term strategy
Do Democrats really want *their* foreign-money dirty laundry to be aired out in public, Alan?
Are you saying the democrats are laundering dirty foreign money?
Can you prove they aren't?
Aren't what?
Just as likely to be criminal douchebags as Republicans?
Did any of the Chamber's money come from Kenya? Just askin'....
This is the type of cynicism that is crippling our politics!
This is the kind of white cracker bullshit that ruins my pride in Amerika!
Huh? Explain what you mean. That is if you are able to.
I can't, I am even dumber than my husband!
Hey, that hurts.
But it is also part of a long-term rhetorical strategy that belies his image as a sophisticated cosmopolitan eager to promote international cooperation and restore America's reputation.
Because sophisticated cosmopolitans enjoy such a good reputation.
Better than brain dead, shit-kicking, one last push liquid shit splatterations, neo-nazi scum like yourself, slappy.
Don't you have an oven to build, or a sheep to fuck somewhere?
Who told you about the sheep??
I remember when he was visiting Germany during his election campaign, this was done to get foreign influence to affect the election, now it is seen as a bad thing to do ?
He was obviously trying to connect with neo-nazis in bavaria.
Another brilliant gem for Democrats to run on - business that provides all non-government jobs - is evil.
If this is the nonsense Obama is spouting in early October, I can't wait to see what's coming by the time we get to Halloween.
He won't say boo, because I'm pretty sure that saying boo is racist.
Anyone who dresses up as a ghost for Halloween is a KKK sympathizer....
Not if he is accompanied by a black cat!
And the cat must have had all her obedience school transcripts sealed, including meeting minutes from the prestigious Barkvard Paw Review.
Further, the ghost cannot recall anything said by a racist preacher after 10+ years of sitting in the front row.
Even further, the ghost does not recognize said preacher who just happened to preside over his wedding ceremony, his childrens' baptisms, and the cat's spaying.
Only then is someone qualified to dress up as a ghost for Halloween and not be identified as a KKK sympathizer.
The spooks will be out for sure.
I might be more persuaded of the possible reason for outrage here if the guy hadn't turned off credit card verification on donations at his own site.
...which is what's hilarious. It's demonstrable that Obama DID receive foreign money that helped him become President, thus kinda influencing an American election. Sure he promised to return it, after the election. Did he ever produce proof that he did? And he (or his people) had to know he had exposure on this issue, and decided to roll with it anyway. Arrogance, stupidity, or both?
Yeah, considering the wholesale fraud that Skippy's campaign indulged in with the credit card scam, this line of attack is probably one of the more shortsighted and stupid things he's done. Yeah, go ahead and remind everybody what you guys did. If he isn't facing trial in the Senate by March with that episode leading the list, someone needs to airdrop a couple of pallets of 5hour Energy drinks on Capitol Hill with a note that reads "quit screwing around and get on with it, boneheads"
Gee, you'd think that the son of a Keynan immigrant would want to soft-pedal that whole "demonizing foreigners" angle.
Maybe he's not as bright as all his fans tell me he is.
-jcr
Maybe he's not as bright as all his fans tell me he is.
It's laughable that I am supposed to submit to having my entire life run by such people on the grounds that they are my superiors, when few if any of them are even my equal. And I'm very ordinary.
I suppose people like privacy. Helps to avoid vilification. Democrats are against privacy on this one.
Could have been overheard in the White House, maybe:
Obama: This Chamber of Commerce is being disruptive. I'm not pleased.
Advisor: Yes, Sir? Your ruling, Sir?
Obama: This needs to stop. What should we do to stop them from complaining?
Advisor: Same as usual, we deny everything and accuse them of stuff like treason or mention Hitler or old people.
Obama: Why don't we fire their leadership and send back to Chicago? Ya know, the Chamber of Commerce Czar, whoever he is.
Advisor: Ahhh?.they're not associated with the Federal Government, Sir.
Obama: Then tell the state government to fire them, we own them, right?
Advisor: They are not part of any state government, either.
Obama: What!!!!! When did this all happen?
Advisor: They have always been a private organization consisting of representatives of private businesses, like thousands of others.
Obama: What? Huh? Explain that!!!!
Advisor: They are not under your control and are free to say what they please as private citizens speaking for their membership. The leaders are freely elected and can say anything they want.
Obama: When the hell did this happen? Why didn't we stop it???
Advisor: Ahhh, Sir, I think it happened in the 1770's and it's been going on in one way or another since then.
Obama: Hmmmm?.maybe Nancy knows what to do.
hahahaha This made my day. I can totally see this happening.
Remember, this is the same man who chided Americans for not learning more than one language, when he only speaks one himself.
Considering himself to be a cosmopolitan citizen of the world, while (baselessly) complaining of foreign money in campaigns, when he himself was the beneficiary of such, is not a stretch. There is self image, and there is reality, and when they conflict the former wins.
I speak Jive.
Barack, do you like gladiator movies?
Yes, I love the parts where the lions eat the Christians!
Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
Only once....and it was scary. Michelle says she likes'em.
10 bucks says Michelle's nailing a body guard or secret service guy while she makes Barak cry in the corner and video tape it.
the Nobel Peace Prize, which he won last year after less than nine months in office based on nothing more than the hope
The Hope. I remember that. It was good! And then the foreigners and Teabaggers stole our Hope and made it their own. And now we are Hopeless.
Coming down off the hopium is harsh, dude. Fucking harsh.
We need to hold a Hope-a-thon.
Where's Jerry Lewis?
Where's Huey Lewis?
Didn't we elect a Man from Hope once?
It's a theme. What the word "hope" really means with these politicians is that they hope we'll be stupid enough to vote for them.
Dude! You reminded me of one of the best songs of all time from one of the greatest bands of all time!!
Where's Jerry Lewis?
What the hell?
Try again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx10_oDysLM
"Hope and Change" is Old Obama. Now it's "Lives Were Touched", unless there's an even more recent catch phrase.
Yes, the most recent catch phrase is "Asholes were stretched"!
The part that is really funny is that he was nominated for the award on Feb 1, 2009. What's that, about 13 days after being inaugurated?
Where's Buckaroo Banzai across the 8th Dimension?
lol
In 2000, hundreds of thousands of American tech workers were let go in a massive economic downturn. At the same time, the H-1B cap was raised to nearly 200K and left there for three years. More recently, a modest bill to trim the massive tax incentives that make offshore outsourcing more profitable than hiring Americans was defeated after a massive deluge of lobbying on behalf of foreign interests. At a time of record unemployment, and record misery among America's middle class, the partisans who favor the destruction of the middle class won. And the US Chamber of Commerce fought on guess which side? America is waking up to the awful reality of whose side the elite are on.
America is waking up to the awful reality of whose side the elite are on.
Zzzz...snort...yawn...Dammit, I knocked over my beer again!
The elite are on their own side. They're called "politicians".
Re: Bart,
OMG, a brown people invasion! In the tune of 200K-size batallions!
Foreign interests that... outsource to foreign lands?
By the way, you cannot break the Law of Comparative Advantage. Even withOUT those tax exemptions, you would not suddenly have more employment in the same industries.
Ah, the middle class of fable. Misery and want runs through their ranks, like sleet on a winter day.
Never mind the taxation, the regulation, the price controls (i.e. minimum wage laws), the artificially low interest rates, the debasement of the currency - NO, it is outsourcing that drives the ghosts of unemployment and dispair.
Let me guess - the side that produces things.
Those bastards!
Who in the US produces "things" anymore? If they're on "the side that produces things" they must be on the side of the Chinese.
Re: Gay Communist Gun Club,
You mean right now, or BACK THEN??? Because Mr. Bart there was talking about "ancient" history (that is, back in the good ol' Clinton years). Perhaps you should read the post again...
And last I looked, the US was still manufacturing cars - I mean, Obama "saved" the auto industry for his friends at the UAW, didn't he???
WHAT?? I thought we put a stop to that!
I produce things in the US.
I just finished producing something. But then I washed my hands.
I produce a service. Even with out the help of a union to boot!
"Foreign interests" own the Democrat Congress? I did not know that.
Thanks, Bart!
No, the shit fer brains unions are the owners of the democrats!
They're actually just renting.
the Nobel Peace Prize, which he won last year after less than nine months in office based on nothing more than the hope
Nominations for the Peace Prize closed when the Obamassiah had only been in office a week or so.
Duh. You don't have to actually bring about peace to win the Nobel Peace Prize. You only have to talk about pursuing a strategy to set up a commission to discuss the possibility of getting others to consider talking about peace.
+1
This was months after Obama spoke amongst Greek columns in Denver. That inspired me to reach for peace, even as I was emptying my 401K to live on. I think he deserved, and deserves, the award simply for distracting us from our coming economic collapse.
This is all part of the "Shadow Money" narrative that the Dems have been building since the Citizen's United was decided.
The long-term purpose of the narrative is to minimize the real reasons for Democrat losses in Nov (fiscal irresponsibility) and to open the door to new campaign finance laws (such as the DISCLOSE act).
Expect this whole "Shadow Money" narrative to reach fever pitch just after the results are in from the mid-terms.
Obama is a liar. He stands with a foreigner, Mexican President Calderon, who is attacking the state of Arizona, and has no problem with that. He has no problem wanting to make illegal foreigners citizens. He has no clue what he believes in. He is simply a Marxist who says anything to support his failed policies. It need not be true.
When you stop and think about it, he is a guy who has been given stuff all his life; a true product of affirmative action. He thinks that is the way the world works. It still amazes me that the ignorant electorate in this country allowed this fraud to be President. He hates America and everything it stands for.
What he said!
yup, that's all true.
obama is a sad case. I heard his speech about how blacks and other minorities should vote in this upcoming election. He makes what can only be regarded as racial appeals or appeals to racial self-interest and does it openly. but at the same time, he is different from the usual jesse jackson al sharpton types who want more entitlements and more programs. obama is a lot like a white leftist alinsky or chomsky. He is seriously anti american and anti free enterprise. He thinks we are really really bad people. and at the same time, he is anti all of the west. Europeans are still reeling from the knowledge that he does not think that the US should be their ally and that there is no unique relationship between the US as a western nation and europeans also as westerners, no interest in common. obama thinks that the interest of the US should be toward the non western part of the world (but not China or India because they are getting rich from capitalism). obama does not care for preserving western culture. he is the first such president. If things turn out the way it seems now, demographics wise, there will be more like him.
Don't forget he is always trying to bob up and down on foreigners when he meets them.
obama, of course, had no problem in disabling the address verification system on his campaign donations website, so that foreigners could donate to "Hope and Change!" without restriction
The crazy reichwingers! How could Osama contribute to Obama with the verification system in place? He couldn't! Caves have no zip codes!?!?!
Goddamn foreigners, helping those xenophobic crazy Tea Partiers win the election. Do you really want to hand over power to a bunch of redneck lunatics that whine all the time about hard-working Mexican immigrants taking all the jobs? You just know the first thing they do when they get power is let Wall Street ship all our manufacturing jobs to China.
Brain.. overload..ERROR..ERROR..ERROR..
Come on enough of this shit. We need another article on legalizing drugs. Let's discuss something important!
Foreign money?....what about the hundres of millions of dollars in "anonymous" small donations to the Obama campaign in 08?
Foreigners? ...what about Obama's fascination with the UN and his willingness to allow their intrusion into our domestic affairs?
Obama, ever heard the expression, "hoisted by ones own petard?" .. pay attention because you are about to become its poster child.
Hypocracy tends to boomerang back at you like that. Interestingly, libs have made a high art of sliming their way out from under such inconveniences, since their entire political ideaology is a house of cards held together only with healthy amounts of hypocracy.
What's really frustrating is that we let them do it. We never hold them to their own standards, we just jump on their next straw-man or give up under the hailstorm of circular logic without dismantling and laying bare their idiocy, piece by piece.
In fact, that's why I read Reason; calculated dismantlings of asinine Libtard argumants occur here more often and more thoroughly than anywhere else I've found, and I savor each instance like the sweet delicacy it is.
"Obama, ever heard the expression, "hoisted by ones own petard?" .. pay attention because you are about to become its poster child." Being hoisted on ones own petard is better than not being hoisted at all. What is a petard????
It is either a bomb or a fart.
I pick fart bomb.
You can't listen to Rush Limbaugh and enjoy your own petards.
This tactic is also ridiculously dumb, because, while the average American voter may have no clue what the US Chamber of Commerce does, they know their local Chamber of Commerce, and have a high opinion of it. They see the Chamber doing ribbon cuttings, promoting small business interests, and promoting charity events. When they hear Obama attacking the US Chamber of Commerce, it feels like an attack on their local Chamber of Commerce and all the good that it does. Whoever thought this was a good idea for a political attack is a moron.
Possibly the same moron that thought it was good stragerery to tell the investor community that we anticipated trillion dollar deficits for years to come and when we reduce it to just half a trillion we're going to be slapping high fives and having toga parties. And that was just a couple weeks into his term.
"When they hear Obama attacking the US Chamber of Commerce, it feels like an attack on their local Chamber of Commerce and all the good that it does."
Agreed. There are 25+ million small businesses in the U.S., and while probably most of them aren't actually in the Chamber, this definitely has the association of attacking small business.
Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
It seems the only type of "intelligence" Obama has is a type of verbal deconstructivism and an ability to twist his opponents' words. He's not even intelligent at politics.
If the charged were lobbed from the other direction, you teabagging wingnuts would be foaming at the mouth.
The CoC does receive foreign money. They claim it's kept separate from the money they get from US Corporations. But they aren't required to disclose any of it, and since money is fungible, the accusation isn't entirely without merit.
Fair point. Obama's incompetence probably does necessitate some sort of corrective. How about we let the Chinese fund the Democratic campaigns? It should be pretty easy to re-establish the fund raising apparatus of the Clintons 15 years ago.
Watch out, Jay! Tony is armed with the False Equivalency Argument Ray, and he's not afraid to trigger its firing mechanism!
"....he's not afraid to trigger its firing mechanism!". I love it when you talk dirty! I wish my husband would stop using his hand.
You go girl! Hey wait a minute the same could be said of that sheep fucking husband of mine. Girls usually spell your name....Toni.
Dirty is dirty, Tony. And most politicians, and political organizations, are dirty.
OTOH, anyone who thinks everyone to the right of himself = "teabagging wingnuts", should probably just sit quietly and not make inane commentary.
Tony|10.13.10 @ 10:47AM|#
"If the charged were lobbed from the other direction, you teabagging wingnuts would be foaming at the mouth."
When brain-dead ignoramuses have no evidence, they simply posit a hypothetical, as the brain-dead example above.
"The CoC does receive foreign money. They claim it's kept separate from the money they get from US Corporations. But they aren't required to disclose any of it, and since money is fungible, the accusation isn't entirely without merit."
Since Tony is capable of chicken-fucking, the charge that he does isn't entirely without merit.
Prove it isn't so, Tony.
Re: Tony,
If my grandmother had wheels, she would be a bicycle.
It's not only a claim, nitwit - they're required by law to keep it separate when it comes to funding political ads.
It IS without merit as there is NO evidence the money is being used to fund electoral adds or propaganda.
Let me put it to you in another way:
Your mother has sex. Since sex can be obtained from anyone, then it is clear your mother could be obtaining sex from anyone, and since she's not required to disclose who she messes with, then the accusation that she's a whore has merit.
"Let me put it to you in another way:" Tony likes it all different kinds of ways.
Well, the point was to show Tony that both contentions were equally preposterous, not to insult him directly.
Ok, I did call him a "nitwit," but only because of his very clumsy use of innuendo when he said that the US CofC "claimed" they keep the money separate, failing to remember that they are required by law to do so.
I don't know if you're right about that, but I do know they're not required by law to disclose any of that.
Re: Tony,
They're not required to disclose the name of their donors, just like your mommy is not required to disclose the names of her johns. See how that works? Guilt by silence!
Isn't Stalinism grand?
My, My such big words. I'm sure they mean something. And don't worry about it Tony has been insulted directly, indirectly and as I remember a couple other ways as well.
Tony has always been clumsy with his innuendo...I kind of think that's why he isn't married. Or that's one reason anyway.
Why should they be required to?
"Foreigners" using money to influence US politics? Inconceivable!
Karl Rove publicly thanked the food stamp president this morning for sending him $13 million. It seems Obama's smear campaign is firing up conservatives and many others who possess common sense.
Hey, you trying to say I'm stupid or somthing?
Maybe Obama should talk to Bill Clinton about how get more Chinese money for the DNC.
Well, Old Billy didn't want to be "xenophobic" did he? No one offering you money would ever have any ulterior motive, especially the endlessly benevolent Chinese? You see money is such a harmless thing really.
how come no one ever talks that in a global economy foreign people might be interested in the outcomes of our elections...many countries piggy back off of our economic successes and failures and seeing how his policies haven't worked i think they have lost faith in him...maybe his biggest concern is that he has totally lost his number one supporter--the people of countries outside the u.s.
Weren't there some left-wing radicals (not average Democrats) suggesting, after the 2004 election, that consideration should be given to allowing some kind of foreign participation in US elections, based largely on what Mikael mentions in his first sentence + the Iraq War?
Dick Durban called for the IRS to quickly investigate "groups" that fund political campaigns. Durban was smart enough not the mention the Chamber of Commerce or the Republican Party, but everybody knows what he intended, as he no doubt hoped. In the first place, asking the IRS to investigate your enemy for any reason, much less to gain a political advantage, smacks of third world politics. In the second place, Durban probably really believes the COC is corrupt and no doubt he fails to understand his third world mentallity.
Yet the Whiskey Hotel lackeys still want the US CofC to prove a negative.
"[...]He was merely insinuating it... which is not the same thing, right?"
Right?
I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS!!!
Hey, Dick Turban is a friend of mine. Were are from the same state of mind (sorry jesse).
I am told this should read "We're from the...". My teleprompter is broken!
The stock market is beginning to accellerate in anticipation of landslide rep victories in two weeks. I knew Glen Beck was giving bad advice when he said we should sell securities and buy gold.
I don't give a fuck who gives money to who; just so long as my stock holdings are increasing in value, its all good.
Read Schiff:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/schiff/schiff121.html
Keep buying them stocks - go ahead, I dare ya.
What about Asian stocks?
I knew Glen Beck was giving bad advice when he said we should sell securities and buy gold.
Gold has consistently outperformed the broad equity market, even during the recent rally.
Why this is so cute, from the late 1990's:
5. SOFT FRANCS?
Why some dollars are more foreign than others
Foreign nationals and foreign companies are prohibited from contributing money to U.S. political campaigns, but resident aliens and subsidiaries of foreign corporations can give as much as they like -- and do.
During 1995, Congress voted on a technical correction to the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) that would close a loophole for British-owned Glaxo-Wellcome, Inc. As David Grann and Erika Niedowski recounted in The New Republic, "when Congress moved to correct [the] mistake, Republican Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah led a GOP effort to quash the correction. On June 28, one day after the Senate voted not to fix this mistake, Glaxo dumped $100,000 into the Republican National Committee. ... And while Glaxo could legally reward Hatch with only $5,000 in political action committee money, it was able to express its gratitude in larger terms by donating $15 million (at Hatch's encouragement) to a cancer center at a university in the senator's home state."(8)
Glaxo, which gave more than $500,000 to the GOP, was the fourth largest foreign soft-money contributor in the last election cycle.
In response to the latest money scandals, President Clinton has ordered that the DNC stop accepting gifts from resident aliens and subsidiaries of foreign corporations.
The top ten soft money contributions from U.S. subsidiaries and affiliates of foreign companies, according to the Center for Responsive Politics
1. Joseph E. Seagram & Sons ($1,938,845/Canada)
2. News Corp. ($674,700/Australia)
3. Brown & Williamson Tobacco ($642,500/United Kingdom)
4. Glaxo Wellcome ($510,000/United Kingdom)
5. CS First Boston Corp. ($296,600/Switzerland)
6. BP America ($274,579/United Kingdom)
7. Sony Corp. of America ($207,319/Japan)
8. Toyota Motor Sales ($188,475/Japan)
9. Citgo Petroleum ($188,450/Venezuala)
10. Zeneca Inc. ($184,700/United Kingdom)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/.....rimer.html
Didn't BP and Citgo both give boatloads of money to the Obama 2008 campaign?
Indeed. That underlines the fact that Obama is just playing politics with his accusations. Foreign corporations have been influencing US politics for quite awhile, and with as the US economy weakens their influence will only grow. There's no using pretending this isn't a fact just because the Dems are pointing a finger in this round.
Not sure I'm remembering the details exactly, but didn't the dems take money directly from a Chinese national to help get Clinton elected?
No controlling legal authority... bitches.
Hillary took a couple million funneled through Chinese street vendors in NYC when she was running in 08. The Clints are big receivers of foreign money through the Clinton Whirled Initiative To Fill Their Pockets. No criminal is too evil, no dictator too repressive or anti-American, no special interest too self-serving to bar them from donating.
But it's okay when the Clintons do it.
Even the libs are shocked at how politically inept this is. In the last six months the White House political team has stumbled from one false note to another. This aint Chicago Barry! There is actually a political opposition and your own actions are destroying your own political position and feeding that opposition.
Desperation? No lunacy is the word you are looking for.
Chinese money pays Imam Obama's paycheck - they buy our bonds and that money goes into the general fund which checks are cut to pay the Imam.
Like I said, the Imam is now exhibiting signs of mental illness - lunacy.
Did this article show up on Drudge?
Imam? Stop being fucking stupid. There is actually real, non-made-up shit to worry about here.
He's a Tlatoani, PerryM, not an Imam...
...Not yet, anyway...
We can't allow foreign influence in American politics. Let's not allow someone born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia to affect American policy!
(P.S.....Yes, I'm Joking. Don't have a stroke.)
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Exclusive!
OMFG! Damn racists!
I didn't notice Obama complaining when foreign investors helped elect him.
I did not have financial relations with that country!
...but we have this check with your ink on it...
I've searched my soul on this. Didn't take long, since I'm an evil, monocle-wearing capitalist. I just don't care much if foreigners are contributing to political ads -- well, no more than I care about the more wrongheaded of my fellow Americans contributing to political ads.
Seems foreigners make a fuckload more informative and calculative decisions in American politics than 90% of Americans do..the Americans that vote anyways.
By the way, what is in this post that's causing schizophrenia medicine banner ads to appear?
I love the assumption that were too stu-stu-stupid to resist those tellyvision ads that tell us how to vote anyway.
Them foreigners have used their secret powers of influence to convince American youth that soccer is a real sport. If they can do that, they can convince to become godless socialists. Or, I guess in this case, to not become godless socialists.
Well, fuck. ThinkProgress SAID it happened, so therefore it DID happen. Who are we to doubt them?
"Wild attacks on "foreign money" reek of desperation."
No they don't.
The Chamber of Commerce should be tried for treason.
End of story.
Them, but not MoveOn.org?
You're a retarded troll.
End of story.
I guess Obama's position boils down to letting the foreigners move here,just don't bring their money.
If they can do that, they can convince to become godless socialists. Or, I guess in this case, to not become godless socialists
Contrary to what the "about" section says, I can tell this site is completely toppled to the right. Reasons:
1. The hypocrisy of posting such a terribly researched and thought-devoid article called "logical farce" on a website called "reason.com" could only be achieved by a right-winger.
2. These comments are empty of any real constructive dialogue and are comprised mainly of shit slinging.
If this site wants to be a right-wing propaganda engine, fine, go democracy. But could it at least do me a solid and not pretend it's something different?
Also some of the worst "journalism" I've ever seen. Hope no one paid for this.
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