Civil Liberties

Another Gitmo Detainee Is Released

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after eight years of imprisonment. The ruling came last month, but its relevance is magnified by Charlie Savage's report in the New York Times yesterday that Obama has essentially dispensed with his campaign promise to close down Guantanamo.

Glen Greenwald comments:

What's most significant about this is that Hassen is now the 36th detainee who has won his habeas hearing since the Supreme Court in 2008 ruled they have the right to such hearings—out of 50 whose petitions have been heard.  In other words, 72% of Guantanamo detainees who finally were able to obtain just minimal due process (which is what a habeas hearing is)—after years of being in a cage without charges—have been found by federal judges to be wrongfully detained.  These are people who are part of what the U.S. Government continues to insist are "the worst of the worst" who remain, and whose release is being vehemently contested by the Obama DOJ.

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  1. If the DOJ doesn’t have the evidence to actually try these detainees, on what are they basing their conclusion that these guys are the “worst of the worst”?

    1. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

      1. He’s probably a Tea Bagger anyway…

        1. Ho9w long before this released one starts shooting at American soldiers?

          Did we have trials for Italian POW’s?

          1. Oh yea, they were fighting in uniform. Never mind.

            1. Oh yea, they were fighting in uniform. Never mind.

              Why does it matter?

              1. Because the Geneva Convention allows countries to hold uniformed soldiers of declared enemies as POWs.

                1. Because the Geneva Convention allows countries to hold uniformed soldiers of declared enemies as POWs.

                  So they have fewer protections than the Gitmo detainees?

    2. The unofficial version — you know, the one they don’t dare advance in a court of law — is that Obama thinks they are guilty, but there isn’t enough evidence to actually convict them, so a * slight * bending of the Bill of Rights is necessary to protect Obama’s ability to retain hawkish independent and Democrat votes the American Public TM.

      1. It is important to acknowledge that this is a continuation of previous Executive policy. This is in danger of becomming accepted by the American People as the way the system is supposed to work.

        An Executive who operates by his own interpretation of the law, and a Congress that no longer feels bound by the limits on Government outlined in the Constitution.

        1. I may have to start using the term “Obamapig”.

          1. Naomi Wolf, in a recent interview with Lew Rockwell has stated Obama is even worse than Bush in this regard.

            http://www.lewrockwell.com/lew…..ue-empire/

          2. I still prefer Maobama, but that’s just me.

            1. Obama-our-momma

        2. This is in danger of becomming accepted by the American People as the way the system is supposed to work.

          What is this “system” of which you speak?

          1. Let me put it in terms you can understand. It’s like if Paula Abdul decided that a contestant who got the majority of viewer votes was getting kicked off the show anyway, and Simon and the black guy let her get away with it.

    3. They were on Richard Blackwell’s last list.

  2. Threadjack:

    A question for the lawyers here.

    Say you enter a contest and later discover that the contest terms were deceptive, and could easily be shown to be deceptive under several states’ Unfair Trade Practices acts.

    How do you measure your actual damages?

    Are the damages the consideration you gave to enter the contest [say, the purchase price of a product if you bought a product], or are they the amount of the prize [i.e. you entered the contest because of a false claim that you could win a particular prize]?

    1. More importantly, should Dave Weigel take the detainee’s place?

    2. There are libertarian lawyers?

      1. :raises hand:

        1. I dare you to do that again.

      2. :raises hand:

        1. What are you, a French lawyer?

          1. If you are into pate, that is where to go.

        2. Two libertarian lawyers named Andrew S., what are the chances.

          1. practices double billing too 😉

      3. You damn betcha!

      4. At least several.

    3. IANAL- but…

      Say you enter a contest and later discover that the contest terms were deceptive, and could easily be shown to be deceptive under several states’ Unfair Trade Practices acts.

      Yet, he still feels like he’s been “victimized”.

      There are no “damages” here- he’s just an idiot who got what he deserved.

      1. No, dumbass.

        A major corporation advertised a contest entry with every purchase.

        I made a purchase, and asked for my contest entry.

        I was then told that, even though I was standing next to a poster-sized advertisement saying that it was with any purchase, some purchases didn’t count.

        This annoyed me, and even though it was only 5 bucks, if you annoy me I will crucify you for it if I can, even if it’s only 5 bucks.

        And I’m asking the question about what the actionable damages are because if I can fuck these guys for the cost of the prize, I’d love to.

        1. Did the “with any purchase” have an asterisk next to it?

          The best are the ones with an asterisk next to the appealing part of the deal, and then no explanation of what the asterisk means anywhere on the advertisement. In that case I guess it’s equivalent to a six-year-old crossing her fingers behind her back.

      2. So when I say “…could easily be shown to be…” in violation, I don’t mean that it was obvious in advance. I mean that the discrepancy between their advertisement and my experience makes it an open-and-shut case of false advertisement and an unfair and deceptive trade practice. So go fuck yourself.

    4. Not the amount of the prize, certainly, but there could be fairly sizable damages, depending on the severity of the offense. Those UDAP laws often involve per-violation penalties ($11,000 is a popular amount) along with fees and treble damages.

      1. IANAL, but agreeing with Pro Libertate—it really depends on the text of the consumer protection statutes in your state.

        I’m curious whether the situation you describe would have any merit as a class action. I mean, you could hardly be the only one to have been deceived, right?

  3. More trenchant, insightful analysis from Glenn Greenwald, who is a brilliant constitutional law scholar, whose blog posts are read during Senate committee hearings, and who became one of the most-read bloggers within of just a few months of starting up his blog.

      1. You would think he would’ve at least gone for Mary Rosh, both for deniability and irony.

        1. +Shut the fuck up, John.

      2. Episiarch the Dhimmi Sockpuppet fellator is one of those who didn’t get it…

        So is Radical Butthole the in-house sphincter who casually ignores the 20% recidivism rates of Gitmo detainees in his hopeless effort to get us to believe Islamofascists are all just cuddly widdle bunnies who never meant us any arm.

        When Sharia takes over your land, you cocksucking traitor will be the first to be executed… for your treason as much as for your faggotry.

    1. I second the comment from Thomas Ellers. Greenwald is absolutely brilliant.

      1. Come on guys, lay off Glenn. I am the one who has been making those eerily similar comments under various names on multiple message boards.

        1. I can’t help it that I know the future!

    2. Because Greenwald’s behavior is much worse and more important than the government’s! And because the government only does bad things when the right people report it.

  4. The Obama DOJ opposed his petition even though the Bush administration had cleared him for release in 2007.

    Just fucking awesome.

    1. But Obama is so much better on civil liberties, right?

      1. Gimme money!

    2. OK, let’s assume this guy is innocent, but I wonder why someone from Poverty-Stricken Third World Muslim Shithole A (Yemen) goes to PSTWMS B (Pakistan) in order to study the Koran. Is the Koran different in Pakistan? Does Yemen lack institutions for Islamic education? Did he have some airline miles that were about to expire?

      1. Because in the hierarchy of Poverty-Stricken Third-World Muslim Shitholes there are still places you want to escape from if you can. That’s really no more proof of anything than if you avoided the Golden Dragon Chinese Restaurant around the corner from your house and went six blocks away to the Golden Phoenix Chinese Restaurant. Both may suck, but the one farther away from your house may suck marginally less without proving that you are up to something wrong.

        On the other hand, it may suggest that there is something that needs to be examined in your behavior if the Golden Phoenix is a known mob front. So it bears some examination, but some times things are not more than what they are…

        In this case it seems that the government can’t even raise anything to support their assertion that this guy is up to no good. Absent that, they may think he’s up to no good, but since when has it been a good idea to allow the government to get away with gross violations of the Constitution on hunches?

      2. Nicer climate, easier women young boys.

        1. Please, goats are where it’s at! Less picky eaters too!

    3. Then why wasn’t he released in 2007?

      1. They probably had trouble finding a country that would take him off our hands.

  5. I’d ask the Obama fellators to defend, once again, Obama’s continuing Bush-ism, but there’s no point. Even they can’t defend this fucker any more. How does that feel, morons who voted for Obama? Please describe to me how it feels to have been fucked so very, very hard. I’m not an idiot like you–and note that I am not advocating for a vote for McCain; there were other people on that ballot–so I don’t know what it’s like to be a stupid fuck who votes for a piece of shit because they talk about “change”.

    Really, please describe to me what it feels like to be an ignorant sucker. It must feel pretty dumb. Like, really, really dumb. Wasn’t it Barnum who talked about people like you?

    1. there’s no point

      So why bother? After all these years, what have you accomplished?

      1. What the fuck are you asking? Do you even have a point, pussy who doesn’t have the balls to use a handle other than a question mark?

        1. Give him a break Epi. The Mysterians walked out on him en masse. He’s all alone, an aging one-hit wonder living on gigs at bingo halls and miniature golf tournaments.

          1. Hell, WE didn’t even want him! Suffer Earthlings!

          2. I find it amusing that question moron is the only attempt at even responding or defending Obama. Come on, Obama morons: tell us what it feels like. We’re already sneering at you for being so fucking stupid; you might as well share.

            1. I’m pretty pleased with him, Epi.

              1. He’s still my dream president!

                1. I have to go back on my no-posting promise to say I’d still lick Obama’s sack.

            2. I may have to write some new prose, The One inspires me!

              1. Thanks for showing up boys. I have something very, very hard for you

                1. …but you’ll have to ask the people in the front row to move back a little, right?

                  Oh, I thought you were Gallagher, breaking out the Sledge-O-Matic again.
                  My bad.

                  1. That explains a whole lot of shit.

                    1. I HATE GALLAGHER. More than Carrot Top.

                    2. Yes, Epi is Gallagher.

                    3. There’s always me, buuuuuddy!

                    4. You are Epi too? Who knew!

                    5. It’s the we-asel!

                    6. I think I can muster up some comedy, if someone will buy me a hamburger and some Lucky Strikes…

                    7. I’m too busy being Kathy Griffin these days. Maybe Andy Dick is available?

                    8. Anyone remember me?

                    9. Anyone remember me?

                      Unfortunately.

                    10. I’m not your buuuuuddy, guy!

                    11. Hey! I’m just a blues musician! Leave me out of this.

              2. I got a bit upset with Him a couple of weeks ago, but I still get that thrill up my leg…

                1. …oh wait, wait,…nevermind, it’s only that gerbil again.

                  1. I’m Epi and I have the little dick to prove it.

                    1. That isn’t little… and it isn’t real. The velcro straps don’t hold well, either.

          3. +96

        2. Do you even have a point, pussy who doesn’t have the balls to use a handle other than a question mark?

          Yeah. Your rants are utterly ineffectual.

          Dude, I’m actually about 10 times more contemptuous of these morons than I can express with mere typing. You should see me rip into one in person.

          That’s awesome, dude. You must be quite the attraction at social gatherings.

      2. I know I’ve accomplished not spending more in three months than presidents have for years, not ramped up the murder of more brown people halfway across the word, not turned a blind eye to abuse of the 4th Amendment when I had the power to stop those abuses…oh, I could go on, but I also didn’t continue to fuck up an already fucked health care system too.

    2. Please describe to me how it feels to have been fucked so very, very hard.

      I have no idea what you’re talking about. President Obama has brought the economy back from the brink, passed the historic Health Care Reform, kicked BP’s ass, and now historic Financial Reform is just around the corner. Plus, I’m still getting my well-deserved assistance.

      1. lol, that was good hopebot.

      2. You’re all just a bunch of sore losers who aren’t smart enough to understand what this country needs.

    3. He still seams to be sticking to a deadline for Iraq and Afghanistan.

    4. Quit holding it in like that, Epi. Tell us how you really feel. Keep all that rage bottled up unexpressed is bad for you. 😉

      1. Dude, I’m actually about 10 times more contemptuous of these morons than I can express with mere typing. You should see me rip into one in person.

        1. There are plenty that think everything is just swell. They think Obama (and Congress) is doing exactly what some of us have accused him of doing–taking us to the socialist promised land. If getting there means shitting on liberty, ethics, security, and economic sanity, well, you can’t make an omelet without killing unbelievers.

          1. Yeah, but those types always felt that way. It’s the ones who thought Obama was going to usher in a new age of peace and prosperity that I’m mocking, because they’re just so unbelievably fucking stupid that it’s a wonder they’re not Corky from Life Goes On.

            1. I think McCain crushed Obama in the mongoloid demographic. They aren’t that fucking stupid and Trig swayed ’em.
              DemocRATS wanna eugenicize them into extinction

          2. All outdated concepts, ProL. Give up on this pipedream of liberty… it’s incompatible with the future.

    5. Yeah, those damn Obamabots, too fucking scared to defend Obama on a public forum.

      1. Good thing I am not afraid to defend myself on a public forum that might be hostile to my views.

        By the way, did you guys hear about the latest humanitarian project initiated by Hugo Chavez?

        1. Are you Oliver Stone?

          1. You’re here early today

    6. I’ve given up entirely trying to reason with…well, most anyone. Linked the other day to the Reason H&R WSJ post re: faulty gov’t estimates the oil companies were required to use, noting that same oil companies are then beaten with a stick when relying on said information. Asked the question, “Tell me again, statists, why I should trust the government more than teh evul corporashuns.”

      Literally got back, “It’s Bush’s fault. Obama is dreamy. The purpose of the government is to check capitalist pigs driven by the profit motive.” Really.

      Rec’d zero responses providing reasons I should trust either the Red or Blue statists over the Invisible Hand.

      Go Team Maroon!

      1. Almanian|6.27.10 @ 5:09PM|#
        “…”It’s Bush’s fault….”

        Careful, there:
        It’s “Bush’s Fault ™”

    7. to me how it feels to have been fucked so very, very hard:

      It was very, very hard 🙂

    8. I’m not an idiot like you

      Purely a matter of opinion, isn’t it?

      1. No, idiot.

    9. He saved capitalism.

    10. Since you’re full of ideas, Pisi, tell us what you think Obama should do.

  6. You would at least think the Obama administration would want to clear some GITMO bunk space for the homegrown terrorists who are currently threatening our very way of life.

    1. If perpetrating platitudes is wrong, then I don’t want to be right!

  7. It seems to be politically impossible to close Gitmo.

    1. No, it’s just not politically expedient. It would mean losing a few votes on net.

      1. Also, no one in any of the states wants to house former Gitmo detainees.

        1. Considering they’d be hauled in front of SCOTUS and publicly dismembered for violations of habeas corpus, and the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments, I can’t say as I blame them.

  8. England has been denied a goal.
    To this I say, Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude!

  9. WE ARE WAITING.

  10. Sometimes it seems as if Obama is Tom Green in blackface.

    1. Can’t be. Tom Green has one functioning testicle.

  11. Are the damages the consideration you gave to enter the contest [say, the purchase price of a product if you bought a product], or are they the amount of the prize [i.e. you entered the contest because of a false claim that you could win a particular prize]?

    A reasonable person (which role will be played by yrs trly) would most likely think the damages would be limited to any actual outlay related to entering the contest; I hereby award you one first-class stamp, and urge you to study the rules more carefully next time.

    However, I suspect you could end up winning the lottery, as it were, if you could get your case before a jury.

    1. What the hell, I’ll give it a shot.

      ChicagoTom can come with me and explain how merely making me whole for the purchase I made to enter doesn’t do enough to discourage corporate misconduct in the future.

      And it’s a Fortune 500 corporation, so naturally the jury would hate them.

      1. Specifics?

        Maybe capitol, capitol, and l can help you win a big settlement.

        1. LULZ! You funny Epi!

          1. Where’s my +1, you creepy old fuck?

      2. ChicagoTom can come with me and explain how merely making me whole for the purchase I made to enter doesn’t do enough to discourage corporate misconduct in the future.

        And I’d be correct, too.

        Why shouldn’t they be discouraged from deceptive advertising.

        Of course this is assuming that there wasn’t some fine print that you just ignored or couldn’t be bothered to look up.

        How many people chose their product over a competitor (or over no product) because of the contest?? I’m sure lots of them who got screwed out of an entry aren’t going to bother looking for recourse for such a small amount. Without punitive damages what’s to prevent any company from doing the same thing — and merely offering a return on the product you bought for the few that bitch?

        You admitted yourself upthread that it’s more about principle/punishment than about actual damages
        And I’m asking the question about what the actionable damages are because if I can fuck these guys for the cost of the prize, I’d love to.

        In fact if others have have been duped like you, maybe a class action would be the best way to punish them.

  12. If this guy wasn’t a terrorist before, he defenitely is now.

    1. Some people get a really raw deal and still don’t go around trying to kill other people.

      1. Just saying. Prisons are known to produce much more hardened criminals upon release, why wouldn’t Gitmo be the same?

        Especially if you were innocent in the first place and not even acknowledged as a human with rights. Maybe the fact that we EVENTUALLY did release him will soothe the rage a bit.

        1. Did you just quote The Hurt Locker?

        2. Especially if you were innocent in the first place and not even acknowledged as a human with rights. Maybe the fact that we EVENTUALLY did release him will soothe the rage a bit.

          So Cory Maye will commit terrorist acts as soon as he is released from prison?

      2. Like, for instance, people on no-fly lists because they brought Ron Paul’s latest book on their last flight…

        1. It’s for your own good. All Ron Paul supporters *are* known terrorists, after all.

          1. Secretary Napolitano misspoke. The White House apologizes for her unfortunate exaggeration.

            She meant to say, “All Ron Paul supporters are *potential* terrorists.”

            1. Bob, I suggest you pipe down and know your place. I can fuck your travel schedule up with one keystroke.

    2. If this guy wasn’t a terrorist before, he defenitely is now.

      Would Cory Maye become a terrorist if he is released from prison?

  13. God GTMO is a mess. I’m glad these guys are getting their day. I also fear we will be seeing some of them again. Of course, you could make the argument we created our own karma if we do see them again.

    I’m still glad we are at least seeing something that resembles US law with respect to GTMO.

  14. So why are they doing this? It can’t be for propaganda purposes, because nobody knows who’s there. If they just wanted it to be known that some person or persons were there, they could just hold onto one, or simply hold onto none and lie about it, because nobody can ever prove them wrong.

    Therefore it seems the administration’s experts are just deluded. A judge looks at the same evidence they have, or likely even less, and concludes they’re nuts.

    The remaining possibility is that the judges are nuts, or have something against the administration.

    1. The only other other possibility I can think of is that the news people are lying — that they’ve made up this story from whole cloth, secure in the knowledge that, since nat’l security is involved, you can’t trust any denial on the part of the judges or the admin.

      1. Oh!, I like that.

  15. But it is the LEFT boot now pressing down upon your face. Don’t you understand how much better that is than the RIGHT?

  16. That child molester Charlie Savage needs to die in a fire.

    1. Oh, shit. Is my comment off-the-record? Fuck, there goes my job at the Times.

      1. Dave self-immolates more regularly than a whole flock of Buddhist monks.

        1. I tweet better than Weigel could ever hope to! Follow me on twitter to the path of enlightenment here.

        2. I am concerned.

  17. So Obama won’t close Gitmo, he won’t bring the troops home from the middle east, he asserts the power to arrest, detain, torture and kill people (including US citizens) on essentially arbitrary grounds, he can’t seem to create jobs, or to save industries except temporarily, though outright government takeover, his health reform remains extremely unpopular and was always actuarially unsound …

    How many campaign promises has this guy even tried to keep, never mind succeeding at doing so?

    It’s going to be a long two years, and even then, if past experience is any predictor, all we have to look forward to is exchanging a douche for a turd sandwich. There’s some real motivation for going to the polls, I must say.

    If the people were kicking out incumbents left and right, and replacing them with third-party candidates or independents en masse, I might have hope for 2012 and the future in general. But in my part of the country, the much touted “anti-incumbent fever” appears to be only a momentary hot flash.

    1. I will niether confirm nor deny that I will or will not run (or, not run)

        1. +Shut the fuck up, John Tagliaferro.

    2. Change:
      Bush = 4 letters
      Obama = 5 letters

      1. Hah!

        1. Hah-hah!

          1. Push the button, Frank.

  18. A challenger appears

    1. Alaskan Crab 2012!

      1. I’m still voting for Lobster Girl.

          1. Is there any other Lobster Girl?

  19. It would be smart to give these released prisoners some compensation and an apology.

    I have no idea why all the people released from Gtmo don’t at least sue the American government, which the Pentagon would probably categorize as “returning to Jihad”.

    1. Let’s teach them some construction skillz.

  20. It’s the ones who thought Obama was going to usher in a new age of peace and prosperity

    If you thought that was why most of the people who voted for Obama voted for him, well, then your rage is self-induced.

    And if you feel you are getting screwed any harder than you would have been with any of the other choices, well, then you are just na?ve.

    1. He hurt you, didn’t he, Neu? Are you OK there, buddy? Wanna get an ice cream? Maybe go to McDonald’s and get a Happy Meal? The pain will go away eventually, big guy.

    2. Show us on the internet where the non-Marxist touched you Neu.

    3. Lemme guess:
      YOU voted for him ’cause of the promise of unicorns, right?

    4. So, in essence… we would’ve been screwed no matter who won the figurehead post – aka the presidency.

      Thanks for the input, Captain Neu Obvious.

      1. TLG,
        Actually, I say you are getting screwed less hard than you would have been with the any of the other options. Less bad is still better than more bad.

        That is, imho, a pretty common motivation in voting in America.

        EPI

        He hurt you, didn’t he, Neu? Are you OK there, buddy? Wanna get an ice cream? Maybe go to McDonald’s and get a Happy Meal? The pain will go away eventually, big guy.

        Pretty weak there buddy. Obama has performed pretty much as expected so I don’t feel particular disappointment…no injury to nurse. You seem to be the only one with PTSD around here.

        Tulpa (below):
        That doesn’t seem a fair assessment of Obama’s policies to this point. Not even if we just stick to the information from the articles linked in the post above. Most people had more realistic expectations about Obama’s ability to change the direction established by the Bush administration than that, particularly in the context of the current climate in the legislative branch. 18 months isn’t a lot of time to undo some of these messes.

    5. Ah, so the people who voted for Obama voted for him because they wanted to continue the wars for years to come, keep the prisoners in Gitmo locked up for life, and kill US citizens overseas away from battlefields.

      I seriously doubt McCain would have gotten away with any of that, given the Dems’ control of Congress and the broadcast media, and while I find McCain’s economic views pretty abhorrent, there’s no way he signs off on the health care boondoggle and the GM takeover. I say that as someone who voted for Barr because he thought Obama and McCain were equally bad in Nov 2008, and now wishes he’d gone door-to-door for McCain until his toenails bled.

  21. If you thought that was why most of the people who voted for Obama voted for him, well, then your rage is self-induced.

    So, why did most of the people who voted for Obama vote for him?

      1. Stop this meme!

        1. See you on the cruise, Matt.

    1. chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp

      1. Last night I heard Obama singing this song, “ooo-eee! Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep!”

        Woke up this morning and my country was gone.

        “ooo-eee! Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep! Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep! Chirp!”

        Where’s Obama gone? (Where’s Obama gone?)…

  22. OK now that is what I am talking about dude.

    http://www.anon-vpn.at.tc

  23. Dude no way man that is just too cool

    http://www.web-anonymity.mx.tc

  24. What do you expect? Liberals won’t call Obama on his Gitmo policy, because Obama hands out free money.

    1. That would be like the German goalie running to the ref and saying the ball crossed the goal line. To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, the 11th commandment is, thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Democrat.

  25. Yep, Democrats were just posturing on this and never took libertarians’ civil liberties concerns seriously. The liberal-libertarian divorce since Dems took power has been ugly.

    I do wonder how many of these will show up on a battlefield again, like many of those they released.

    But I’m conflicted — I’m not sure I want any of these guys out, but with the potential for abuse I do love knowing that there are people who are fighting the civil liberties battle tooth and nail on this.

    1. We don’t need civil liberties – well, some of us do, just the gays like me, and maybe one or two other groups – but the rest of this “freedom” nonsense is just plain bad for us and for the children of the future.

  26. I wonder why there is no mention of this on Huff Post…

    Wait, no I don’t.

  27. Dear Leader puts America on the couch:

    President Barack Obama said Sunday that there’s “a lot of obsession” about the withdrawal date for U.S. troops from Afghanistan. He said his focus is on making sure the mission there is successful.

    “I don’t have a crystal ball,” the president said when asked about a five-year Afghanistan exit strategy endorsed Saturday by the Group of Eight major industrial democracies.

    “I think that right now the debate surrounding Afghanistan is presented as either we get up and leave immediately because there’s no chance at a positive outcome, or we stay basically indefinitely and do quote unquote whatever it takes for as long as it takes.”

    Obama’s policy falls somewhere in the middle, thereby pleasing few.

    Presumably, questioning what his definition of success in Afghanistan is will also be interpreted as a sign of unhealthy obsession.

    1. Oh, forgot to mention how much I appreciated that final boilerplate sentence from the AP reporter.

      1. What caught my eye (and I’m shocked nobody else has commented on it):

        Then two weeks ago, Kennedy ruled for the release of Russian Ravil Mingazov, 42, a former Russian army dancer.

        The Russian army has… dancers?

        1. Doesn’t surprise me. I wonder if they are leftovers from the Cold War?

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  29. No one who is anywhere near a position of authority in our government has a better, responsible solution to how to deal with our enemies irregular forces than to leave them in Gitmo.

    I think everyone should remember that the way Obama worded his promise with regards to this issue was as if the problem was the prison was in Guantanamo, not that it existed at all.

  30. Threadjack: Sen. Robert Byrd has died at the age of 92. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06…..9byrd.html

    1. I think….

      nope, don’t care.

  31. This happens all the time at Hit & Run: I want to figure out why something is happening, but nobody wants to discuss or explain that.

    1. Too hard. We only do anonymous, ineffectual rage and insults here.

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