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The culture war comedy of An American Carol

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“The whole idea of spoof, to me, is just so done and gone,” said David Zucker to The Onion AV Club. “I'm very proud of all three of the Naked Guns, but I think we've declared victory.”

That was ten years ago. In 2001, terrorists attacked and destroyed the World Trade Center and the Pentagonâ€"or have you forgotten? In 2004, a newly-minted Republican David Zucker donated to the Bush re-election campaign and made a commercial for the Club for Growth that portrayed a line-up of schmucks being as indecisive as John Kerry. “If you never commit to what you believe in,” said Zucker’s narrator, “who will commit to you?”

Zucker stayed committed, producing more political ads in 2006 and directing An American Carol, a feature-lengthâ€"what’s the word?â€"spoof of the modern left, of terrorism, of Hollywood, of slavery, and of the never-promising genre of Charles Dickens pastiches. This is an idea even the Muppets had trouble with, and they didn’t have Zucker’s political obligations.

We open on an idyllic Fourth of July picnic, where embalmed-looking, paycheck-needing Leslie Nielsen gathers up some kids to tell them a tale occasionally broken up by erotic, slow-motion daydreams. It’s the story of Michael Malone (Kevin Farley, brother of Chris), a Michael Moore lookalike who is following up his success with films like Die, You American Pigs with a campaign to ban Independence Day.

”I love America,” Malone says in one of the many, many scenes where he’s eating and looking confused. “That’s why it’s got to be destroyed.”

Malone is approached by hard-luck Taliban terrorists who, buffeted by American military success, are having trouble recruiting fresh bodies. Led by Robert Davi, who reads his lines as if he’s smothering them with a hospital pillow, they corner Malone at an award show. ”We heard you were a big fat liar!” giggles Mohammed (Geoffrey Arend), before giving Malone tentative funding for a drama that will finally, finally win him the respect of the Hollywood elite.

All of this happens before any of the Dickensian ghosts show up to shake some sense into Malone. We’ve forgotten what’s being parodied by the time the ghost of John F. Kennedy jumps out of Malone’s TV set to remind him that his high-toned rhetoric disguised an anti-commie ass-kicker. The ghost of George S. Patton (Kelsey Grammer) guides Malone through most of his journey, showing him a world where American soldiers never freed the slaves or beat the Nazis, where ACLU lawyers groan and swarm like zombies. He summons the ghost of George Washington (Jon Voight), in a scene of transcendent weirdness, where Malone is shown the ashes of 9/11 victims to shame him out of making documentaries. Malone’s lessons end under the arm of “the freakin’ angel of death,” (country singer Trace Adkins), who shows him a future where morgue doctors play with his remains and Muslim conquerors build him a statue in occupied Hollywood.

Spoiler alert: Malone learns the error of his ways. By the end of the film he’s patched up relations with his Navy man brother, celebrated the Fourth of July, and started production on a patriotic biopic of JFK. He exposes the terrorists’ plot from the stage of a Trace Adkins concert, where the man sings an ode to America that goes, in part, “army, navy, air force and marines/the greatest fighting force the world has ever seen.”

And that’s how David Zucker returns to the spoof genre. (He has directed, but not written, two of the Scary Movie films.) The goals here are as partisan, zealous, and transparent as Warren Beatty’s when he made Reds, or John Travolta’s when he made Battlefield Earth. Zucker has promoted the film across conservative media, at the Republican convention (where screening attendees like Rick Santorum got liberal paper dolls for their kids), and on Fox News. “Laugh like your country depends on it!” bellows the movie’s ad copy. This is not a joke. If a Scary Movie bombs, some people lose money. If An American Carol bombs, Zucker’s quest to make Hollywood safe for conservatives is dealt a Dunkirk.

How successful can he be, though? Like Redacted (2007) and other Iraq films attacked by conservatives as propagandic money pits, the targets of AAC have shrunk since the screenwriters first aimed at them. Just because Michael Moore took four years to put out a documentary on his “slacker uprising” tour doesn’t mean people still take him seriously on electoral politics. Indeed, Moore released the movie for free online. He went through a brief moment as a symbol for everything conservatives hated about the left, roughly from the release of Bowling for Columbine to Bush’s re-election. Spoof targets work best when the subjects are brand new or ripped out of clichés. Farley’s Malone never overcomes the “oh yeah, that guy” factor.

Zucker doesn’t try too hard to understand the left beyond Moore/Malone. Late in the film, we learn that Malone was only ever unpatriotic because, as a portly teen, he had a crush on a girl who hated America, too. When she ran off with a soldier, he doubled down as a political activist. Malone’s motivation is the only one that Zucker explains: The rest of the liberals and left-wingers in the movie are psychopaths who willfully make things up, chant slogans mindlessly, and beat up people who upset them. This is the first Hannity and Colmes comedy, birthed in an echo chamber, with references that only make sense to people who are already die-hard conservatives.

Is it funny? It depends. Zucker funs around with Hitler by recycling a gag from his worst political ad, in which a James Baker III lookalike did the bidding of a Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lookalike. There is a truly disturbing scene involving Leslie Nielsen and human dismemberment that might have gotten a chuckle at Ed Gein’s house. There are a few jokes that connect, though, and that puts An American Carol miles ahead of Fox’s short-lived “The Half Hour News Hour.”

It doesn’t put it in league with the great liberal comedy. There’s a reason for that, as TV critics point out every time a conservative comedy or skit fails. Political comedy mocks authority. Conservative comedy in the Age of Bush venerates authority. The “heavies” that corrupt Malone and (temporarily) ruin the lives of his conservative extended family are powerless, silly activists. Malone simply gets slapped around a bit and decides the establishment was right. If you transported Zucker back to 1978 and pitched him Animal House, he’d direct Niedermeyer: Man of Iron.

Hopefully this is a curable problem, a result of eight fat years of Republican rule, the bulk of which were spent apologizing for the Bush administration and agonizing over land wars in Asia. Conservative comedy thrived in the Clinton era; perhaps it can bloom again in the Brumiere of Barack Obama.

David Weigel is an associate editor of reason. This article originally appeared at Culture11.

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  1. This is what happens when a giant pile of poop takes a shit.

  2. Are you referring to Weigel or the movie?

  3. Sorry, the bitch set me up.

  4. The ghost of George S. Patton (Kelsey Grammer)

    Huh-wuzzah?

    How does that work?

  5. Age of Bush

    David, will you do me a favor and never, ever say that again unless you’re reviewing a Ron Jeremy biopic?

    Great review, by the way.

  6. Zucker’s spoofing himself now. And possibly spoof movies. That’s the only explanation.

  7. the never-promising genre of Charles Dickens pastiches…

    I thought ‘Scrooged’ was a brilliant updating of ‘A Christmas Carol’ and the perfect way to kick the Eighties’ ass out the door.

    But the same Dickens scheme as it’s laid out in this movie just sounds dumb, as does everything else I’ve heard about the movie. Too bad, because I’d love see a good send-up of Hollywood’s smarmy liberal culture.

    Btw, what is Weigel referring to when he says conservative comedy thrived during the Clinton years?

  8. The rise of Sean Hannity?

  9. Are you referring to Weigel or the movie?

    Are you going to stand for this, Dave?

  10. Hey, I liked the Muppet Christmas Carol. Didn’t like Scrooged.

  11. “The rest of the liberals and left-wingers in the movie are psychopaths who willfully make things up, chant slogans mindlessly, and beat up people who upset them.”

    Sounds like a McCain rally nowadays.

  12. Unintentionally funny movies always are better than movies that try to be and fail miserably.

    Point Michael Moore.

  13. I can’t wait to hear about how this movie “exposes the truth about Michael Moore,” and almost certainly in those exact words, from my still-believing-in-Bush friend.

  14. Yup, no reasons for conservatives to be angry right now. The MSM has been fair and balanced, the DOW is at an all-time high, and those “I care a lot” Congresscritters have done wonderful things for the economy by demanding their crony friends give loans to poor people who cannot afford them.

    Mooove along…nothing to see here.

  15. The ghost of George S. Patton (Kelsey Grammer)

    Huh-wuzzah?

    How does that work?

    About as well as George C. Scott playing Lillith.

  16. One time a couple years ago T. & I did a fun, interactive ghosts of Christmas parody here below the fold (this was before he was a big name in the blogosphere). IIRC, one of my ghosts showed him poor people who couldn’t afford sinus surgery.

  17. “Yup, no reasons for conservatives to be angry right now”

    Yeah, if conservatives could have only been able to hold power in this country during the last 15 years or so they wouldn’t be reduced to making spoof movies.

    Sing it with me…Nobody knows the trouble I’ve seen…

  18. Yeah, you’ve controlled the legislative branch from 1995-2007, and the Presidency from 2001-2007, and somehow it’s not your fault?

    Right.

  19. We’ve forgotten what’s being parodied by the time the ghost of John F. Kennedy jumps out of Malone’s TV set to remind him that his high-toned rhetoric disguised an anti-commie ass-kicker.

    This is the give away that this is a spoof of a spoof. When the most highly revered, ultra-librul, elitist-to-the-bone Democrat is held up as a paragon of “The American Way” the jig is up.

  20. Looks fun, seeing it tonight. Don’t think it will gross much, but it’s nice to see anything remotely righty from Hollywood. It gets a little tiresome when the villain always seems to be Evil Corporation XYZ and the terrorist don’t seem to track real-life demographics.

    I shudder to think what they’re going to do with Red Dawn.

  21. The author makes a good point about comedy mocking authority. Which is why Colbert’s ironic taking-on of what he perceives to be conservative Republicanism is doomed to failure under a Democrat-controlled government. Which is sad, because his show is enjoyable.

  22. Eh, people predicted Rush Limbaugh wouldn’t last without Clinton, too, but he adapted.

  23. gmatts and BDB, those were Republicans, not conservatives. Republicans these days are pretty much Democrats whereas Democrats like Obama are pretty much socialists.

    And what’s this “you” stuff? I’m a fairly hardcore libertarian. I tend to have more sympathy for conservatives than liberals because I can always buy social freedoms if I have money (just look at how many rich people go to jail for drugs and prostitution these days).

    Regardless, I do think conservatives have some good reasons to be pissed these days. Though frankly, not as many as libertarians (unless you are the anarchist-type…those days are looking closer and closer).

  24. Well it remains to be seen whether Colbert can adapt.

  25. I actually enjoyed the movie quite a bit – I thought it was pretty clever and very non-PC, which always brings a smile to my face.

  26. The ghost of George S. Patton (Kelsey Grammer) guides Malone through most of his journey, showing him a world where American soldiers never freed the slaves

    I wonder if Zucker knows that Patton was the descendant of Confederate soldiers.

  27. Oh, Jeebus, conservatives are always angry. They get angry when they have to press one to continue in English fer chrissakes. They get angry when the bad guy in a movie isn’t black or Arab.

    I remember reading columns from angry conservatives because the City of New York was going to have a black guy and a Latino in the 9/11 Memorial.

    Cry me a river.

  28. BOB-

    Sorry about my use of the lower cae o in spelling your name in prior posts.

  29. Non PC also means ridiculing cops and soldiers and all of Caesar’s heros. Of course, conservatives think it is a treasonous offense to point out the truth that cops and soldiers and FBI and DEA agents are nothing more than parasites.

  30. I was going to say too, what conservative comedy? You mean the guy who did the Bill Clinton impersonations on Rush Limbaugh? I thought South Park was Libertarian.

  31. “…the greatest fighting force the world has ever seen.”

    The Israeli’s?

  32. If you transported Zucker back to 1978 and pitched him Animal House, he’d direct Niedermeyer: Man of Iron.

    Wajda doing that film would be awesome in the extreme. Especially if he directed it with the soundtrack of Man of Marble.

  33. Dammit, I meant the soundtrack of Man of Iron. Though come to think of it, the soundtrack of Man of Marble would give Niedermeyer a certain tragic gravitas.

  34. Have all the commenters seen the movie, or are we just taking the knee-jerk reaction to what is perceived to be a “conservative” film?

    I’m a Marine veteran, and current Libertarian that happens to like America very much.

    I recognize that someone has to have a monopoly on physical power in order for there to be liberty, and after a brief review of the world’s powers, America is the only candidate available.

    Having said that, I’m as suspicious of the state as any good libertarian, but that doesn’t mean I buy into the Utopian pipe dream of a borderless, stateless world where everyone suddenly wakes up one day and realizes that free markets will make us all happy and free.

    More to the point, I haven’t seen the movie, but I’m glad someone took aim at the ridiculous Leftist caricatures of Moore and Hollywood in general.

    The idea that defending America against such imbeciles is strictly a “conservative” thing is intellectually vacant, and perhaps morally so as well for a supposedly liberty loving individual.

    And congratulating someone on a great review without seeing the movie is illogical. How does one arrive at that compliment?

  35. Have all the commenters seen the movie, or are we just taking the knee-jerk reaction to what is perceived to be a “conservative” film?

    It’s a knee jerk reaction to what I perceive as a bad film.

    The same as a have for Beverly Hills Chiuaua, which I also have not seen.

  36. “Looks fun, seeing it tonight.”

    Let me know if people watch the previews or if everyone just spends their time talking about: the media as if it’s 1990 and there are only 3 places to get information, the way Sarah Palin totally aced the Sean Hannity interview, how everyone thinks McCain should “take the golves off”, and how Obama and Osama are just 1 letter off so they must be related.

  37. “””I recognize that someone has to have a monopoly on physical power in order for there to be liberty, and after a brief review of the world’s powers, America is the only candidate available.””””

    Where did you get that idea? I really don’t think the founding fathers had world domination on their mind. The very document you swore to protect against all enemies, foreign and domestic, created checks and balances to prevent a monopoly of power in the US.

    Checks and balances is what we need in the world not domination by one country.

  38. Proving once again that liberals can dish it out, but they can’t take it in. Like a bratty, kool-aid stained, fat kid in the back seat of a car. “Mom, he’s looking at me! Mom, he’s touching me!”

  39. “””Proving once again that liberals can dish it out, but they can’t take it in.””””

    WTF? The right wing has been crying about Hollowood for years. They would rather cry about a Michael Moore movie than balance the budget.

  40. And Hollywood has been dishing it out for years. Got a little smacked back in their face and they’re whining like the fat kid.

  41. Sounds like Zucker would have been better off taking the South Park approach to lampooning the left and mock their narcissistic, self-absorbed, scattershot “we care” routine rather than trying to cast aspersions on the hyper-dramatized milieu that some progressives try to project.

  42. “””And Hollywood has been dishing it out for years. Got a little smacked back in their face and they’re whining like the fat kid.”””

    Sure, and the right wing IS the whining fat kid. I’m sure the right is overjoyed that the left gets to whine for a while instead of them.

    Turnabout is fair play, both sides are whiner.

  43. As someone who has been involved in the entertainment industry for several years the truth is: Conservatives just aren’t overall very creative, there are exceptions here and there, but overall its true.

  44. The South Park guys (who also did Team America) are libertarians. And the same goes for Thank You For Smoking, which is more intelligent, than any predictable left or right *comedies*

    May I play the race card, and claim that neither Colbert or Stewart are funny to me. Of course their audiences have all the ethnic diversity of a Subaru dealership in Vermont.

  45. I saw the movie, and there were some funny parts, but overall, I think the movie would have been funnier if they based the spoof on “Gone With the Wind.” Or maybe taken the “Scary Movie”/”Date Movie” approach and did parodies of a few movies and tied it together. I thought the movie was a bit awkwardly done and had a couple of inaccuracies in regards to Moore’s hometown (it’s Flint, not Detroit) and his skill with firearms (I think he has won at least one marksmanship award). I can’t quite believe the same guy who worked on the “Airplane!” movies and the Naked Gun series did something as bad as this. It could have been so much funnier, but it wasn’t. The film wasn’t holding my attention, much like when I saw “Meet the Spartans,” which I thought would be really funny too.

    One other point I’d like to make: just because you point out things in your country that you aren’t happy with, that doesn’t make you a traitor or a country-hater. I think conservatives would be much happier if everyone just shut up and agreed that despite a crashing economy and jobs leaving the country, things are just fine. Right. That’s like standing in a swimming pool with water up to your chin and boasting that your hat isn’t wet.

  46. scotth797:
    “The South Park guys (who also did Team America) are libertarians.”

    Not strictly true. And regardless, although I’m a huge fan of Trey and Matt’s work, ‘Team America’ is a blatantly and unapologetically pro U.S. intervention film.

  47. OMG, Joe thinks conservatives are crazy wacko angry people whereas all the liberals have drunk the kool-aid and are dead hippies.

    lol. Happy, happy, joy, joy is exactly what I’ve seen out of the nutroots for years.

  48. I got the idea from Team America that it was lampooning both.
    The right for jumping head first in and blowing the shit out of everything.
    The left (specifically hollywood) for trying to get together and basically holding hands with bad guys.

    Not to mention the whole the right has to employ an actor (lefty) to defeat the enemy seems a very subtle jab at conservatives basically taking on liberal traits whenever it suits them.

    I could be wrong though. America fuck yeah did not seem totally pro interventionist it made them look foolish.

    my two cents.

    I don’t really consider matt and trey libertarian (hell i don’t like labeling myself that, fuck who cares labeling yourself just makes everyone immediatly assume every belief you have anyway.) even if they said they were. I just think they’re smart enough to see hypocrisy when it’s evident.

  49. Status quo-loving, fearless-leader worshiping conservative comedy isn’t funny. Anyone surprised? Anyone? Michael Moore is a big enough douche to deserve a better skewering than a Dickens knockoff.

  50. the whole “dicks fuck assholes” speech in Team America summed up their stance pretty clearly, I thought : America is far from perfect, but there’s a hell of a lot worse out there, and we keep it in check.

  51. Having now seen it, I lolled.

    Gotta love the part where Rosie makes a “documentary” about radical Christian terrorists, complete with a priest taking over an airplane with a switch-cross and a nun screaming “72 virgins here I come!!” as she blows herself up.

    Even given that Weigel leans a bit leftist himself, I’m not sure why he thinks the movie is full of “references that only make sense to people who are already die-hard conservatives” as the topics are pretty mainstream: gun control, privacy vs. security, Cuban health care vs American. Of course the lefties are caricatures, but so are righties in most Hollywood movies.

  52. It’s charming that – actually believes Hollywood will give a shit about American Carol.

  53. “The South Park guys (who also did Team America) are libertarians.”

    **Not strictly true. And regardless, although I’m a huge fan of Trey and Matt’s work, ‘Team America’ is a blatantly and unapologetically pro U.S. intervention film.**

    Reason wrote an article titled South Park Libertarians for whatever that is worth. And their interviews seem pretty indicative of a Libertarian approach.

    Team America pro interventionist? We saw two different films. Although the individuals riduculed in the movie were on the left, the ideaology of the far right was mokced. Wasn’t their something about America being like a clumsy, but well intentioned dog? Or was that one of their comments to Reason?

    I suppose I agree with Rex. I don’t go around calling myself a Libertarian (it sounds alien), so I’m not sure the South Park guys do either. The far left and far right seemingly get off on such things.

    There is a slight element of the political from folks regarding Ron Paul. The intensity at the speeches, the insistence on calling him Dr. Paul. But for the most part, some of us think the guy makes sense, and leave it at that.

    The problem with the Libertarian party, is most of its potential members don’t want to be labeled, much less be on a team. Maybe that Marx guy was a libertarian- the comedian that is.

  54. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7JVLipzwbM

    This speech here – in keeping with the sort of didactic speech from Stan or Kyle which closes most episodes of South Park – makes the film’s point of view quite clear. People like Kim Jong Il, in the view of Matt and Trey, need to be dealt with aggressively as it’s foolhardy to believe they can be dealt with in any other way.

    I saw the same film as you, but I wasn’t looking for it to agree with me. I saw instead what it was rather clearly saying.

  55. **I saw the same film as you, but I wasn’t looking for it to agree with me. I saw instead what it was rather clearly saying**

    Hmmm. Well I’m not sure I agreed with it, or the guys in this case.

    Course I’m still trying to figure out what business we had in Serbia.

  56. http://dir.salon.com/story/ent/feature/2004/10/12/parker_stone/index1.html

    Salon: Still, do you ever feel like you cover your asses too much by taking on targets on opposing sides?

    Parker: I don’t think so, because we do take somewhat of a stand at the end. I mean, I believe we do make a point at the end of the movie. Some people consider that point to be fairly right-wing, and some people consider it to be fairly left-wing …

    Salon: What do you think that point is?

    Parker: [Laughs] The thing is, obviously, we’re not setting out to make a movie going, Look, America, this is how you should run things, this is how it should be. Because then we’d be no better than the fucking actors we hate. But the only thing that we assert is that there’s a difference between dicks and assholes. That’s the biggest thing that we assert.

    Stone: That’s such a strong political statement.

    Parker: And it really kinda is! Because that’s the thing that we realized when we were making the movie. It was always the hardest thing. We wanted to deal with this emotion of being hated as an American. That was the thing that was intriguing to us, and having Gary (the main character) deal with that emotion. And so, him becoming ashamed to be a part of Team America and being ashamed of himself, he comes to realize that, just as he got his brother killed by gorillas — he didn’t kill his brother; he was a dick, he wasn’t an asshole — so too does America have this role in the world as a dick. Cops are dicks, you fucking hate cops, but you need ’em.

  57. Sounds like Zucker would have been better off taking the South Park approach to lampooning the left and mock their narcissistic, self-absorbed, scattershot “we care” routine rather than trying to cast aspersions on the hyper-dramatized milieu that some progressives try to project.

    I was going to say the same thing, too.

    And James nailed it. The reason why conservatives haven’t been as successful in the entertainment industry is because they suck at it much of the time.

  58. Interesting anecdote from Jerry Haleva, who played Saddam Hussein in two films directed by Zucker’s partner Jim Abrahams. That whole “want them to laugh” part is what Zucker forgot this time out:

    Charlie Sheen was a little unhappy about how much more material they were writing for me. Because this was his vehicle, of course. It was the second Hot Shots! characterization he had done, and they kept focusing on stuff that made the Saddam character look good. Or not look good, but look funny. There was one scene that ended up on the cutting room floor, a Jerry Colonna moustache-stretching-type scene, where Charlie comes over, says “I gotta do this,” and grabs my moustache; and of course there’s a fake moustache that keeps stretching and stretching. It ended up not really working. But at the time Charlie really didn’t want to do it. He said, “No, I want to haul off and deck him. The audience will cheer.” And Jim Abrahams said, “We don’t want them to cheer; we want them to laugh.”

  59. I recognize that someone has to have a monopoly on physical power in order for there to be liberty, and after a brief review of the world’s powers, America is the only candidate available.

    and the rationale for your assertion is…

  60. It’s the story of Michael Malone (Kevin Farley, brother of Chris)…

    more evidence that there is no benevolent god

    see also: Belushi, John; Belushi, Jim

  61. last comment of the night from me:

    Tim Cavanaugh, come back!

  62. I call Ron Paul “Dr. Paul” because it’s a tendency I have from my medical background to call MDs whom I’ve met “doctor”.

  63. In fairness to right-wing comedy, all the Sacry Movie/Epic Movie/Date Movie/Meet the Spartans crap that this guy and his cronies have been making lately has been amazingly shitty too. I mean maybe a right-wing comedy is a contradiction in terms, but it’s not as though you were going to the best possible current creator of comedy for this film. I’m not saying that I’ve seen any right-wing comedy that was good (with the exception of Team America – if you consider it right-wing), just that Zucker is no longer the one to give us any good comedy.

    I say that in full awareness of how great Airplane! and Naked Gun (1) were.

  64. I recognize that someone has to have a monopoly on physical power in order for there to be liberty, . . .

    And one has to believe in inteligent design in order to be a Darwinist, and there must be a drug war in order to protect ratonality, and slavery must exist in order to preserve the economics of a free society.

  65. One more thing: why is it that a supposedly conservative movie is portraying JFK as a hero?

  66. Too bad, because I’d love see a good send-up of Hollywood’s smarmy liberal culture.

    So would I, but I don’t think conservatives can do it. What we need is a libertarian movie.

    When the most highly revered, ultra-librul, elitist-to-the-bone Democrat is held up as a paragon of “The American Way” the jig is up.

    JFK? You mean the NRA member who invented the Green Berets? “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country?” “A rising tide lifts all boats?” That ultraliberal?

    Much of JFK’s “liberal” legacy was filtered through LBJ.

  67. As a far right conservative I looked forward to seeing An American Carol. Unfortunately, I’d have to rate it as the most idiotically puerile, vomititious piece of lame slapstick I’ve ever seen. It portrays conservatives as a group of slack-jawed morons, screaming joyfully at the endless assertions that America has the right to kick the shit out of anybody who annoys us, especially those among us who are disturbed that American civil rights are routinely abridged in the cause of “fighting terror.”

    Truly, if there’s ever been a worse or more insultingly stupid film made in this country I can’t think of it.

  68. It portrays conservatives as a group of slack-jawed morons, screaming joyfully at the endless assertions that America has the right to kick the shit out of anybody who annoys us,

    Uh, right.

    That sounds a lot more like you’re far-left loon who repeats MoveOn talking points and hasn’t seen the movie.

  69. “I was going to say too, what conservative comedy? You mean the guy who did the Bill Clinton impersonations on Rush Limbaugh? I thought South Park was Libertarian.”

    South Park is clearly more sympathetic to the conservative side than the liberal side. Once during an interview, when asked about liberals vs. conservatives, the answer by stone/parker was “we hate conservatives, but we really fucking hate liberals” which is pretty clear if you watch the show.

    And I suggest that hardcore leftists (DU types) are less likely to find South Park funny than hardcore righties.

    There is even a movement referred to as “South Park Conservatism”

  70. In regards to my last post, consider also the epic “Team America: World Police”, by the duo that brought you South Park.

    This movie is clearly more sympathetic to the right than the left. The matt damon parody alone is worth the price of admission.

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  74. Zucker doesn’t try too hard to understand the left beyond Moore/Malone.

  75. “I was going to say too, what conservative comedy? You mean the guy who did the Bill Clinton impersonations on Rush Limbaugh? I thought South Park was Libertarian.” Gry logiczne

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