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Bill Buckley Finds Joe's Tavern Close to Auschwitz

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In recent years Bill Buckley, who has described himself as "a libertarian journalist" and whose magazine (where I used to work) has often run articles criticizing coercive policies aimed at discouraging smoking, has become increasingly sympathetic to the anti-smoking movement. Now he has gone off the deep end on this subject, calling in a recent column for tobacco prohibition and likening people who do not support government-imposed smoking bans to the manufacturers of Zyklon B (emphasis added):

Stick me in a confessional and ask the question: Sir, if you had the authority, would you forbid smoking in America? You'd get a solemn and contrite, Yes. Solemn because I would be violating my secular commitment to the free marketplace. Contrite, because my relative indifference to tobacco poison for so many years puts me in something of the position of the Zyklon B defendants after World War II. These folk manufactured the special gas used in the death camps to genocidal ends. They pleaded, of course, that as far as they were concerned, they were simply technicians, putting together chemicals needed in wartime for fumigation. Some got away with that defense; others, not.

Those who fail to protest the free passage of tobacco smoke in the air come close to the Zyklon defendants in pleading ignorance.

How close, exactly? I can think of a couple differences. The hydrogen cyanide gas generated by Zyklon B killed something like 100 percent of the prisoners exposed to it, while secondhand smoke, even when the exposure is intense and prolonged over decades, at worst slightly increases the risk of lung cancer and heart disease. (Lest I be located in the vicinity of Holocaust revisionists or Nazi apologists, I'll leave aside the questions about whether the associations between secondhand smoke and these diseases represent cause-and-effect relationships.) It also might be relevant to point out that, while Jews and gypsies and homosexuals did not volunteer for the Nazi death camps, people do voluntarily enter bars and restaurants where smoking is allowed. So maybe allowing people to set the rules for smoking on their own property is not really that close to aiding and abetting genocide.

Appalling analogies aside, Buckley is not only violating his "secular commitment to the free marketplace" by calling for a tobacco ban. He is ignoring all the points about the ineffectiveness and unintended side effects of drug prohibition that he and National Review have been making for years. Can it be that the war on drugs is a disaster only because the government picked the wrong drugs?

There's no need to speculate about the reasons for Buckley's newfound anti-tobacco faith. He himself ascribes it to his wife's recent death ("technically from an infection, but manifestly, at least in part, from a body weakened by 60 years of nonstop smoking") and his own emphysema, caused by "the idiocy of cigars inhaled." I've long admired Buckley's achievements, and he deserves our sympathy for his personal experiences with smoking-related disease. His emotionally colored arguments do not.

[Thanks to CK for the tip.]

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  1. “Stick me in a confessional and ask the question: Sir, if you had the authority, would you forbid smoking in America? You’d get a solemn and contrite, Yes. Solemn because I would be violating my secular commitment to the free marketplace. Contrite, because my relative indifference to tobacco poison for so many years puts me in something of the position of the Zyklon B defendants after World War II. These folk manufactured the special gas used in the death camps to genocidal ends. They pleaded, of course, that as far as they were concerned, they were simply technicians, putting together chemicals needed in wartime for fumigation. Some got away with that defense; others, not.”

    I wouldn’t have a problem with Mr. Buckley’s argument, if the Jews were asked if they wanted Zyclon B or non-Zyclon B delousing.

  2. I’ve never been a smoker & don’t like the smell of tobacco smoke, but I find the “reformed ex-smokers” who must, in their zeal, coerce the rest of the world into giving up the weed more offensive than any smoker I’ve ever met.

  3. Zyclon B = Zyklon B

    Damn deutchers and their k’s instead of c’s

  4. Another of me heroes of the English language dashed on the rocks of . . . [something catchy goes here]

    Holy crap, the next thing you know Denish deSousa will go off the deep end about something.

  5. In Buckley’s defense, at least he has the guts to call for an all-out ban rather than some pussyfooted restaurant ban. I completely disagree with it, but I find it more internally consistent than simply banning smoking in restaurants and bars.

  6. This is the “libertarian” Buckley who wanted AIDS sufferers to be tattooed with IDs. Maybe he’d like to revive that idea for smokers, so we can keep our distance from them. Can’t be too careful!

  7. I’ve never been a smoker & don’t like the smell of tobacco smoke, but I find the “reformed ex-smokers” who must, in their zeal, coerce the rest of the world into giving up the weed more offensive than any smoker I’ve ever met.

    Aresen,
    I’ve long contended that converted Catholics, married prostitutes, and ex-smokers are the most irritating and self righteous, of all the scolds. I may soon be adding ex-fatties to that list.

  8. Maybe he’d like to revive that idea for smokers, so we can keep our distance from them. Can’t be too careful!

    We are usually carrying an illuminated marker when in “smoking allowed” zones. No need for body mutilation, at least for the serious smokers like me and Bun E. Carlos.

  9. When I was a smoker I swore I would never become one of those anti-smoking zealots if I ever quit. I quit two years ago, and I am proud to say that I have not become one. I could care less if someone else smokes. I could care less if I can smell someone else’s smoke. It’s their life and I have no desire, no matter how faint, to run their life for them.

    p.s. I found quitting to be incredibly easy, even after twenty years of smoking.

  10. J sub D,

    What about evanglical athiests?

  11. p.s. I found quitting to be incredibly easy, even after twenty years of smoking.

    I have only been smoking for about 30 years, add 2 years to that for smokeless tobacco and still have not yet developed the habit.

  12. That’s interesting. And all this time I thought smoking bans are nothing more than zealous lefties trying to impose their will on the free populace.

    I guess that makes Bill Buckley is a lefty?

  13. Sincere, kinda tangential questions alert:

    Were there unharmful potential uses of Zyklon B during WWII?

    Were there potential uses of this chemical against enemy combatants?

  14. Jeez, he Godwinned himself. Need we say anything more?

  15. I may soon be adding ex-fatties to that list.

    *cough* Huckabee *cough*

  16. I have a really long list of things that should be banned. But I don’t really mean it, it’s just stuff I hate. I was hoping, in vain it turns out, that WFB was simply venting. Big Sigh.

    I know Guy can appreciate the aroma of cigarette smoke mingled with the aroma of hydrocarbons emitted from a big fat American Vee-8 engine with a fat cam……..

    Smells like, I dunno, smells some kind of manly I guess. 🙂

  17. Brandybuck, me too. I am not a pain-in-the-ass ex-smoker. Course, when I was a smoker, I wasn’t a pain-in-the-ass smoker either.

  18. I guess that makes Bill Buckley is a lefty?

    Nah, just proof once more that there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference. Both the left and the right want to screw you for their own personal agendas.

  19. J sub D,

    What about evanglical athiests?

    Guy, do you get prostelized by atheists often? Do they have Chick tracts now? I haven’t been to the meetings lately, so I dunno.

  20. Dave, Zyklon B is an insecticide and delousing agent. We used it in the old days to disinfect Mexican farm worker’s clothing.

    Still used in some countries in eastern europe.

    Like natural gas, Zyklon had an odor added to it so it was detectable. Except for the the Zyklon B used in the gas chambers. No tell tale odor.

    Hard for them to claim they didn’t know what it was for, eh?

  21. She smoked for 60 years, meaning she was older than that. I guess we all have to blame something. I call for a ban on natural causes because it killed my dad.

  22. J sub D,

    “Guy, do you get prostelized by atheists often?”

    Is this your first time on this website?

    Anyway, TWC, it does sound like venting to me. It’s one thing to actively advocate for smoking bans. It’s quite another to say that in a confessional, you’d have to admit that you’d like the ban to happen. Heck, if pressed I’d admit that it wouldn’t kill me to see country music banned, but I certainly wouldn’t advocate it.

  23. people do voluntarily enter bars and restaurants where smoking is allowed

    Not me! I have no choice! I have to work in a bar. What about my rights?

  24. kohlrabi, you want ban music for dumb people? 🙂

  25. Oh man, forgot the disclosure: TWC sometimes listens to country music and The House Blond and TWC sometimes watch Country Music Countdown together.

  26. Tobacco is harmless, only smoke is harmful. Now, could we ban all use of fire and return to the savanna and start munching grass ? I guess not.

    I think some find it’s fun to persecute smokers of tobacco.

  27. TWC,

    I know Guy can appreciate the aroma of cigarette smoke mingled with the aroma of hydrocarbons emitted from a big fat American Vee-8 engine with a fat cam……..

    Pre-catalytic(however you spell that word in this evil use) converter of course!

    J sub D,

    You are joking aren’t you? If not, I can’t wait to read your first encounter with a raving, frothing, athiest who just can not tolerate any other human being have a different view than them. My guess is that you will run to a workstation to post!

    It is especially entertaining/aggrivating for me to encounter them since, as a libertatian Christian, I could not care less if they go to hell or not.

  28. (“technically from an infection, but manifestly, at least in part, from a body weakened by 60 years of nonstop smoking”)

    So, he died at the age of what, 80+, after receiving the benefits and pleasures of 60 freaking years of smoking? I am reminded of the quip made when Julia Childs died at 91, “if she hadn’t eaten all that wonderful fat rich food, she might have made it to 92.”

    Every action has tradeoffs. Things that bring enjoyment today have cost tomorrow. Stop to smell the roses and it takes you longer to reach your destination.

    Somewhere along the line we made the cultural decision that a long life represented the ultimate good and that anything that we think we can measure that shortens life is automatically just not worth it. I suspect this comes from a scientific distortion sometimes caused “metric bias” i.e. the tendency to attribute significance to phenomenon based on how easily they can be accurately measured.

    Its easy to measure life span but very difficult to measure quality of life. So, we take the easy way and decide that living a long life is better than living a high quality life full of events that shorten life span.

    Redd Fox once said that if you follow a rigorous health regime, you don’t live longer, it just feels that way. We should automatically question the assumption in most health related debates that a maximum life span represents the ultimate good.

  29. Ban an addictive recreational substance on health grounds? What could possibly go wrong?

  30. TWC,

    Not really. Just my tastes. Some actually isn’t so horrible, it’s just that the bulk of it is unlistenable to me.

  31. Hard for them to claim they didn’t know what it was for, eh?

    I don’t know. I guess it would have to go on a case by case basis. I guess that I just don’t find the defense as laughable on its face as Buckley does because: (i) an employee might not realize the odor agent was no longer being added; (ii) a new employee might not realize that odor had ever been added; (iii) an employee might think that ditching the odor was a wartime cutback; and/or (iv) an employee might have thought he was working on a weapon to be used against enemy combatants (may be even a secret one).

    It is surprising to me that the odor causing agent was taken out just from the perspective of safety of people (presumably good Germans) who had to transport the stuff.

    Anyway, if Sullum and Buckley both agree that the Zyklon B makers had criminal intent beyond any doubt, I am willing to take it on their combined authority, despite the subjective doubts I might otherwise have in a non-Holocaust-related sitch.

  32. What I ‘want’ banned: Word Perfect, Golf, non-optional air-bags and catalytic converters. Softer want on banning designated hitters.

    Just dreams, I have not and will not petition the government for this to happen.

    I also want a 1970 convertable Hemi ‘Cuda, but will not demand the government give me one.

  33. do you get prostelized by atheists often?

    yes. Dawkins is their pope and PZ Meyers a roving firebrand preacher. However – I find them less annoying that christians trying to witness to you in the coach section of an airplane.

  34. Kohlrabi,

    Not really. I knew that, you were clear. Just yanking your chain and picking on country music.

    I am not a purist like Jesse Walker. I like all the country stuff that is bastardized, commercialized and over exposed (thank you George Harrison). And some true country as well.

    For example, I own two versions of Gimme A T For Texas, the original by Jimmy Rodgers, and a cover by Lynard Skynard. Guess which one gets yer toe to tappin’?

  35. Hey , I like Golf

  36. Hey , I like Golf

    Guess what I shoot on the golf course?

  37. Guess what I shoot on the golf course?

    +10 or heroin?

  38. Guy,

    Golfers?

  39. I may catch some flak for this, but I am against the use of cartoon characters to market Zyklon-B to kids.

  40. Dave, to some extent I agree. My comments were more with respect to the decision makers in the company than line employees. Even then, you can still argue that you were just filling an order for Zyklon without the oderizer (is that a real word?)

    I’m not sure how far you go with this kind of blame/responsibility thing. I think there were a couple of company big wigs that were hung as a result, but where do you draw that line? At what point do you say, well, they were just employees doing a job. I freely admit that I don’t really know.

    And if you want to get really nasty, how about all the villages and towns around the camps. Surely those people must have suspected something was up. Especially when the winds shifted and every so often there was that unpleasant whiff of something……

  41. J sub D,

    You are joking aren’t you? If not, I can’t wait to read your first encounter with a raving, frothing, athiest who just can not tolerate any other human being have a different view than them. My guess is that you will run to a workstation to post!

    It is especially entertaining/aggrivating for me to encounter them since, as a libertatian Christian, I could not care less if they go to hell or not.

    As a libertarian atheist, I don’t care if you believe in fairy tales or not. The fact remains that many, (most?) religions encourage/require prostelizing. In my Junior American Atheist Handbook?, such activity is not mentioned.

    Most atheists, like me, don’t think theists are evil or stupid, just laughably wrong.

  42. Paging Eric Dunderooooo, who believes that nanny-statism can be solely attributed to the left. How does Dunder explain the anti-smoking paternalism of Buckley, credited as the founder of the modern conservative movement?

  43. If you don’t close your bold tag, your post looks like crap.

  44. kohlrabi,

    You win partial credit!

    Q. Guess what I shoot on the golf course?
    A. 3 dram. eq. #8 shot at the golf eggs, slugs at the golfers.

  45. WFB stopped looking libertarian around 1955, but he’s steadily gotten worse since then. Now he’s pretty much a senile old man who’s insane ravings are best ignored. Other than being against the drug war, he pretty much stands for everything that libertarians are against (don’t let his “I’m a libertarian, except..” crap fool you, he does this all of the time). Hell, the guy supported Joseph McCarthy!

  46. J sub D,

    Why must you use such incindary language so often? You can’t just settle for not caring if I go to Church? Well, bad choice, since I rarely go and it is usually under duress.

    MG,

    At the risk of answering for ED, finding one modern Conservative who wants to be nannyish about one item does not negate the thundering herd of ‘independant thinker’ enlightened Leftists who want to do the same thing at the barrel of a gun.

    There are plenty of “paelo-Conservatives” who embrace the same measures. Me, I just dup on all of them as Leftist National Socialistic thinkers.

  47. Marcvs,

    Did you catch him being against free markets in something other than the topic at hand?

    If I find out his Rolls is running on E85 I will be so pissed!

  48. This fails the idiot test:

    Given the choice, which do you think a rational person would choose: spending 30 seconds in a Nazi death camp shower or spending 30 years in a smoky pub with your mates?

    **And yes, militant atheists belong on the annoying list along with: ex-smokers; former alcoholics, the tie-wearing bicycle guys; and the evangelical global warming missionaries.

  49. Why must you use such incindary language so often? You can’t just settle for not caring if I go to Church? Well, bad choice, since I rarely go and it is usually under duress.

    Let me get this straight, “I could not care less if they go to hell or not.” is calming tolerant language, while “laughably wrong” is “incindary language”? Just trying to get the ground rules down.

  50. Hmmm, I recently saw an ad over on the right side of the H&R that let to an atheist proselytization page. I can’t remember its name, and their ad must have run its course because I haven’t seen it in a week.

  51. Buckley is old and sick and it’s very sad to read a column like that from a guy like him.

  52. “the tie-wearing bicycle guys”

    Ugh! That’s frightful.

  53. Yes, but I was talking more about “I don’t care if you believe in fairy tales or not.” and “Most atheists, like me, don’t think theists are evil or stupid, just laughably wrong.”

    Sorry if you are an athiest who believes in hell, so my not caring if you go would be offensive to you. I will modify: I do not care if athiests who do not believe in hell go there and I hope J sub D does not.

    See? Much nicer.

  54. J sub B

    Usually I let spelling go but since you spelled it this way (prostelizing) twice, I thought you’d like the correction: proselytizing. In case yer ever on Smarter than a Fifth-grader or something.

  55. I can’t remember its name, and their ad must have run its course because I haven’t seen it in a week.

    I have not seen the t-shirt hotties in ages. Perhaps I pissed off G_d and I am being punished?

  56. George Burns was asked on his 90th birthday how many cigars he smoked.4-5 a day he replied.What does your doctor say about that.Nothing,he died 8 years ago.

  57. Usually I let spelling go but since you spelled it this way (prostelizing) twice, I thought you’d like the correction: proselytizing. In case yer ever on Smarter than a Fifth-grader or something.

    sixstring, thanks, I should know better.

    Guy, I accept your apology and offer you one about my fairy tale crack in return. And now back to our regularly scheduled anti-anti-smoker screed.

  58. sixstring , That’s J sub D not J sub B. joe’s law. 😉

  59. Yes, smoke while you post.

  60. I always liked George Burns comment about how he liked to drink scotch and sing, but most people would rather listen to him drink scotch.

    My grandfather died at 77? 78? from lung cancer after smoking Camel no-filters for 60+ years, so I have just as much credibility as FBuckley on this one. Don’t ban cigarettes. It’s for the children.

  61. T,

    When it comes to humor I am a Marxist to the core.

    “You are only as young as the woman you feel.”

    “I never met a face that I didn’t like, but in your case I will make an exception.”

  62. Very, very sad. Pin a note to his sweater and send him off to the dog track.
    There was an upsetting article in the WSJ the other day about the use of anti-psychotic meds to chemically restrain the elderly in nursing homes, but in Buckley’s case I think I’ll make an exception.

  63. RRRARRGGGGHHH, FIRE BAD!

  64. J sub D,

    Curses!! joe’s law! And I was soooo careful with the text for that very reason!!

  65. Golf is soooooo oooooh bourgeoisie!

    And every single long-haired, drug-crazed, hippie creep who uttered that phrase 30 years ago can be found on the golf course dejour on any given weekend.

    That is reason enough to hate golf.

    Jesus Chrysler, even my cousins play golf.

  66. Me sorry, Oogh get angry when Oogh not have cigarette…

  67. That is reason enough to hate golf.

    The real, and best, reason to hate golf is right here. C’mon all you golfing libertarians, speak up.

  68. I used to have a lot of respect for Buckley, but now I’m pretty damned disappointed in him…

  69. J Sub, the golf community was tapped into the public wallet long before MLB or pro football came to the party. Nice shot.

    Actually (scuffs shoe in the dirt] some of my best friends play golf. And, frankly, if golf was like this, I’d be there.

  70. “the tie-wearing bicycle guys”

    Used to be a coven of those guys in my old neighborhood in Fullerton. You’d see them out everywhere. Never came to my house though.

    The Jehovah Witnesses? Another story altogether.

    [Maybelle, where’s my shootin’ iron?]

  71. And, frankly, if golf was like this, I’d be there.

    What is she, like a par 4?

  72. What is she, like a par 4?

    When she’s on the course, par quadruples.

  73. Um, this is the same William Buckley that founded National Review, right?

    Whee!

  74. The last time I played golf, I shot a 74.

    Then, on the back nine, I shot 76.

  75. lol, give the man a drink

  76. As the first victim of second-hand _reductio ad hitleram_, perhaps Bill will benefit from the mental exercise of figuring how many Nazis were spared the noose at Nuremburg by being struck down by lung cancer downwind of their satanic furnaces?

  77. “I call for a ban on natural causes because it killed my dad.”

    Where do I sign up to to shill for Big Natural Causes?

    Their stock goes up every time someone is browbeaten into giving up an actuarially suspect activity.

  78. Brandybuck @ 1:10pm:

    I could care less if someone else smokes. I could care less if I can smell someone else’s smoke.

    That’s a start, but I suggest you start actually caring less.

  79. Jacob:

    It also might be relevant to point out that, while Jews and gypsies and homosexuals did not volunteer for the Nazi death camps, people do voluntarily enter bars and restaurants where smoking is allowed.

    The point!

    So maybe allowing people to set the rules for smoking on their own property is not really that close to aiding and abetting genocide.

    Jacob is a gentleman and a scholar, but with this understated sentence he’s being a gentleman to a fault.

  80. What about pipe tobacco? I think it smells great when it is still in the bag as well as when it is smoked. I also enjoy the smell of a good cigar.

  81. CLAWS OUT SWIPE!

    [leaves dog house in a mass of destruction]

  82. The cat really is stoopid–wrong thread.

  83. Were there unharmful potential uses of Zyklon B during WWII?

    It was originally used as an insecticide. Ironically, it came from the labs of Fritz Haber, the same guy who figured out how to artificially fix nitrogen in fertilizer, forming the foundations of modern industrial farming. On the other hand, he was a pioneer of chemical warfare. I suppose he could be considered the prototype of the stereotypical amoral scientist who doesn’t care about the consequences of his discoveries.

  84. ” Smoke, smoke, smoke that cigarette
    Puff, puff, puff until you smoke yourself to death.

    Tell St. Peter at the Golden Gate
    That you hate to make him wait,
    But you just gotta have another cigarette.”

    Tex Williams
    Capitol Records
    1947

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIN8MmMloZE

  85. It’s hard to think of anything you can do non-stop for 60 years without a health risk. If that is the standard, everything should be banned except breathing.

  86. I believe Buckley dropped tobacco for another weed. Perhaps it has affected his brain.

  87. One flaw in this article I feel compelled to point out, is that complaining about the effects of second hand smoke is missing the point that Buckley is trying to make – by calling for an outright ban, Buckley seeks to protect actual smokers more than people exposed to second hand smoke. Thus his analogy holds truer than you make out (as long as you agree that smoking itself does cause health issues to actual smokers). Complaining about the lack of evidence that second hand smoke causes damage is the domain of those that seek more limited bans, like restaurants and bars. As noted Buckley is responding more to the death of his wife than situations where eating is difficult.

    I don’t think an outright ban is a good idea either – but I have to admit that I now find the least bit of cigarette smoke noxious to the point where I have to leave if I smell much at all, so even though I’m not sure I support the ban on smoking in public places I guiltily enjoy the effects.

  88. As a two year survivor of lung cancer, I encourage people not to smoke, or if they are smokers to quit. I smoked two packs a day for almost 40 years and paid the price with a right lung lobectomy and 6 months of chemotherapy. I encourage the government to cease crop supports for tobacco growers, but by damn, Buckley is way off base.

  89. “He himself ascribes it to his wife’s recent death (“technically from an infection, but manifestly, at least in part, from a body weakened by 60 years of nonstop smoking”) and his own emphysema…”

    His grief is understandable but he fails to acknowledge that without the advances in medicine over the past 80 years both he and his wife would have very likely died of something else before the evils of tobacco would have been manifest. And, who doesn’t understand that sucking smoke into your lungs is somewhat, cough, cough unhealthy?

    I agree with Rush on this issue… we should ban carrots because everybody alive today who has eaten a carrot will die.

  90. Ah. A conservative selectively abandons his/her conservative principles after a personal experience that affects him/her negatively.

    “Color” me surprised.

    Remember though, only white conservatives are allowed to do that.

  91. Look at how effective the ban on marijuana has been to get some idea of how effective a ban cigarette smoking would be.

  92. The right has always lost their small government handbook when it comes to vice. I was really surprised when the so-called liberals started going after tobacco (especially the cannabis fans). Didn’t they even know they were thinking like their opposition?

  93. Good grief! Pat Buckley died at age 80 according to her New York Times obituary; Bill Buckley is now 81. To blame smoking for robbing them of life and health is nonsensical. I much admire Mr. Buckley, but fear his grief may be causing some unsound thinking.

  94. Marcvs | December 5, 2007, 2:34pm | #
    WFB stopped looking libertarian around 1955, but he’s steadily gotten worse since then. Now he’s pretty much a senile old man who’s insane ravings are best ignored. Other than being against the drug war, he pretty much stands for everything that libertarians are against (don’t let his “I’m a libertarian, except..” crap fool you, he does this all of the time). Hell, the guy supported Joseph McCarthy!

    He supported Joe because Joe was right. Read a real history and you will see this very clearly. Ever heard of the Venova Papers? Hiss and his fellow travelers were actually guilty. Buckley should be proud of his association with Joe McCarthy.

  95. Sorry, typo: that’s Venona Papers.

  96. Hey Stupid Waitress:
    Your choice to work where you do is just that. Don’t like it there? Leave for a better atmosphere. Now, for the asthmatics. You have a disease, I have cancer. Don’t expect the rest of us to take care of you. That’s your responsibility. Neither of you have the right to perfect air, nor do I of a cancer free body. That’s the way it is. We all get our turn to die.

  97. Zyklon B was used as a fumigant by the German Army for years before it became the killing gas of choice at the concentration camps. In “normal” usage – open tents, where it was intended – it’s relatively harmless to humans and highly effective at killing insects. It was developed specifically for this purpose. Zyklon B actually isn’t all that good for killing people, in fact. It was used really because the German army had millions of canisters of the stuff lying around and the camps were spending too much money for bullets to shoot prisoners.

  98. I was really surprised when the so-called liberals started going after tobacco

    Don’t get out much, do you?

  99. “Don’t get out much, do you?”

    The surprise was 40 years ago.

  100. I couldn’t give a rat’s ass if one smokes or not, or wears a seatbelt or not, as long as the silly bastard does not dip into my wallet without my permission when their health turns to shit, or they get so injured they can’t take care of themselves. Your misery is your problem. I have my own issues. Just keep your mitts off mine.

  101. “Just keep your mitts off mine.”

    So you will eschew any payments government programs, such as Medicare, I presume. Just keeping your mitts off ours, right?

  102. PROSELYTIZE. ATHEIST. There are online dictionaries available to those who are unsure of spelling as well as those who think they know how to spell.

  103. I will NEVER take one thin dimes’ worth of publicly-funded health care.

    I reiterate… never. Not even at gunpoint.

  104. I agree with you Libertarian guy, but the reality is- that you will take it with out realizing it.

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