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This week the Georgia House of Representatives approved a bill that would prohibit the sale of marijuana-flavored candy to minors. The bill says products such as Pot Suckers and Kronic Kandy, which are not psychoactice but have a pot-like palate because they're flavored with hemp essential oil, create the "false impression that marijuana is fun and safe."

First of all, yuck. Getting marijuana flavor without the high is worse than drinking alcohol-free beer. Although some people swear the taste of cannabis enhances savory dishes such as chili, the idea of deliberately adding it to sweets sounds revolting. When you make cookies or brownies with cannabis (I hear), you try to minimize the marijuana flavor as much as possible. If you fail to do so, the result is not a delicious treat that happens to get you high but something you would never eat if it weren't psychoactive.

I have to assume, then, that the main attraction of pot-flavored, nonpsychoactive candy is that it's perceived as cool, which is precisely what the Georgia legislators are worried about. They are not claiming the

 candy itself is dangerous; rather, it's the message sent by the candy to which they object. The "false impression" they decry happens to be true: Marijuana is fun and safe (with safe understood to mean not 100 percent risk-free but acceptably hazardous given the payoff). In any case, as with the DEA's vain, deranged crusade against hemp foods (which are not only nonpsychoactive but generally don't taste like pot either), the target of this legislation is, in essence, ideas that offend goverment officials. 

Tom Murphy of Vote Hemp, which successfully fought the DEA ban, had this to say about the Georgia bill: "This makes you wonder if they would consider banning a coca-flavored soft drink that's marketed to children…"

[via the Drug War Chronicle]

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  1. It can taste pretty bad with savory dishes like mac & cheese, I’ve heard.

  2. This one, uh… friend of mine told me that you have to cook it in butter to get the THC out.

  3. How is it that they can ban a message? Isn’t that what the First Amendment is for?

  4. So the only thing going for these candies is that they have an image of being rebellious and cool?

    Then instead of outlawing them, every Congressperson should strive to be seen as often as possible with a Potsucker, etc., in his mouth. They should also be issued to all law enforcement officers. Who loves ya, baby?

  5. I like the taste of beer…

  6. the result is not a delicious treat that happens to get you high but something you would never eat if it weren’t psychoactive.

    A friend of mine knew a guy who purchased a very large quantity of said substance only to find it had been grown with the aid of way too much cow manure. The stuff reeked of cow shit. He couldn’t give it away because it stunk so bad. Actually, he did give it away — to my friend — who couldn’t stand the smell either, so he did the only logical thing: he baked it into brownies. Which tasted like cow shit. Which ended up in the basket, which was taken with all due haste to the dumpster. After we all threw up.

  7. Jacob: You are definitely mistaken about one thing. These things are fucking delicious. At Warped tour a couple years ago, there was a booth selling these, and sweet christ are they good. They have a sweet candy taste, but also a very strong flavor taht tastes exactly like REALLY good weed smells. Unfortunately $2.00 for a sucker is just ridiculous, no matter how good they are.

  8. How is it that they can ban a message? Isn’t that what the First Amendment is for?

    No, I’m pretty sure the First Amendment isn’t for banning messages.

  9. Orbit gum just came out with a mint mojito flavor. Somehow, I don’t expect to see it being banned for promoting alcoholism.

  10. Sorry Seamus, I made a few spelling errors. Let me try again:

    How is it that they can bondage massage? Isn’t that what the First Amendment is for?

  11. Looks like they’ll be changing Coke’s formula again. Maybe they should rename it too; I suggest “DEA-a-cola”.

  12. Has anyone ever had (or knows where to get) original 1890’s recipe Coca-Cola? Not in the US, of course, but maybe in Columbia?

    I’ve always been curious about that “Brain Tonic”

  13. How is it that they can ban a message? Isn’t that what the First Amendment is for?

    No, Amendment I is only to protect newspapers and television. Talk radio nor anybody else gets that protection.

    Lucky they were not trying to bring back candy cigarettes and bubblegum cigars or they would be shipped to Iran with those British Sailors.

  14. I like how you included the picture of the can of Coca-Cola beside the last paragraph … just in case we didn’t get it. 🙂

  15. Then again…

    On the bright! side…

    If the suckers get banned the recipe can be altered to include ACTUAL THC! …as seen on t.v.

    *UHHHHH*. Who’s the sucker now, beeee-yetch!

  16. Guy, I was talking about the free speech part, not the freedom of the press part.

  17. Guy, I was talking about the free speech part, not the freedom of the press part.

    Well, I was mostly joking, but advertising (even the wrapper on candy), IIRC, is one of those Amendment I exceptions.

    Regulating what can and can not be sold is a whole other critter.

  18. I fondly remember candy cigarettes and bubble-gum cigars being sold to (us) kids years ago, no doubt a conspiracy between Big Tobacco and Big Sugar. Frankly, I have a hard time thinking of this situation in 1st Amendment terms or at least getting very excited about it, but I guarantee that the prohibition will do more to encourage kids to try pot than discourage them. If anything, they should require kids to chow down on some of these marijuana tasting, um, candies which (obligatory “or so I’ve heard”) must taste like crap.

  19. Jacob I think you’re thinking of the dirty, mexican nickel-bag scratch-weed you used to inhale back in the 70s, the odor/flavor of which was something you couldnt wash out of your mouth fast enough.

    These days, boutique-y strains of indoor-grown weed floating around the pacific northwest (or anywhere for that matter)… the stuff smells/tastes like…uhh, lets just say it smells good. REALLY good. There are at least two engineered strains i’ve…seen recently…. which smelled (naturally) of strawberries, and bubblegum, respectively. Also, Chocolate Thai… Northern Lights has a kind of pine-y, acidic, clean parseley/celery note to it. I’d totally use it as an air freshener… if I wasnt already trying to cover up that very smell with something more “Ocean Breeze”, less, “You are Under Arrest”.

  20. Since drug-themed tattoos project the image that drugs are safe and rebellious and cool, shouldn’t they also be banning the sale of, oh, those tattoo templates?

    Or do tattoos fall under the 1st Amendment?

  21. …the result is not a delicious treat that happens to get you high but something you would never eat if it weren’t psychoactive.

    I hope to shout (Alice B Toklas notwithstanding)

  22. Also, Chocolate Thai… Northern Lights has a kind of pine-y, acidic, clean parseley/celery note to it.

    Suddenly I feel like I’m at a really, REALLY mellow wine-tasting.

  23. Curious, There was a reason that Coca Cola gave you a lift. It was that 9 mg of cocaine per glass. That was removed for the most part by 1903 and as technology improved Coke was coke free by the late 1920’s.

  24. Does sound like a snobby wine tasting.

    Sheesh, in my day there was sticks & stems, Acapulco Gold, Sinsemellia (sp), Maui Wowie, bud, and Jeff’s genuine two-hit shit (the second hit was you, hitting the floor after the first hit). Gold was twenty bucks an ounce.

    Sounds like pot has come a long way, wonder if it still makes some of us majorly paranoid.

  25. wonder if it still makes some of us majorly paranoid

    YES! Although I find the better it is, the less paranoid it makes me. Goddamn, all this talk has me counting down the seconds until 5:00.

  26. I’ve had those suckers before–they’re OK, not good, not bad, just sorta… different.

  27. Booger and vomit flavored jelly bellys seem to be doing fine. I can’t wait to introduce my cocaine flavored swizzle sticks. Hint: they’re ground aspirin.

  28. So if they can ban pot flavored lollipops because they give the “false impression that marijuana is fun and safe” what about candies that contain potentially deadly items like scorpions or HFCS? Anything goes if it is to protect the children right?

  29. (burrbbuuburrrbuleburblebrbyble-Swoooooooooosh)

    (sound of person holding in, then coughing, hacking)

    ….uhhh. Ahhh. Um, so, what were you guys saying? What? Weed flavored lollipops are illegal?? Thats so funny. When does your mom get home? ok, lets play that new Vice City: Porno Murder Crack City for a while, then go out and set garbage on fire.

  30. Sounds like pot has come a long way

    Jeez, you havent poked your head into High Times magazine in the last 15 years have you?

    It went from being about blacklight posters and interviews with wavy gravy, ex black panthers, etc, to like, “Illegal Hortaculturalist’s Monthly”

    They have articles about like, “10 lessons about light spectography, and what it means for your State 3 growth cycles and yield density”

    They also still have all the dumb hippy shit.

    No kidding… here’s the opener from an article =

    “If you’re having difficulties maintaining a high level of successfully rooted clones, I suggest the inexpensive and foolproof procedure developed by Amsterdam’s Delta-9 Labs. The cloning process revealed here was achieved using rockwool cubes; however, soil, perlite or coco mediums work equally well. Humidity, as we all know, plays a vital role in developing healthy rooted clones. …”

    Seriously though, never get high with pot nerds. NEVER. Its all they ever talk about. I’ve strangled a few to death.

  31. Do they still have a “bud of the month” centerfold?

  32. de stijl: Yes they do…and goddamn are they pretty. So dense and exploding with trichomes…

    /pot nerd

  33. I was in NOLA last week and saw my sis drinking a Cocaine energy drink.

    http://www.drinkcocaine.com/mainindex.php

    Tasted it, hated it, but it sort of numbed the throat. Guess it will be picked on next.

  34. Maybe the DEA could team up with Evo Morales, who wants to sue Coca Cola for capitalizing on Bolivia’s “cultural heritage” (i.e. the coca plant).

  35. I.Self.Divine.,

    The first step is to admit that you’re a pot nerd.

    I’m not laughing at you, but the whole “bud of the month” centerfold concept is … how to put this … really fucking stupid.

  36. De Stijl: *lowers head* yeah…I am…

    As far as the whole Cenbterfold issue however, I was trying to be facetious…I don’t think it worked without my inflection. However, I will admit that there are a few copies of High Times mixed in with back issues of Reason and Liberty on my coffee table. Somehow, that’s all anyone who comes over ever seems to pick up. There are two burn buddies of mine though that will seriously just sit and stare at the pictures for literally hours.

  37. I.Self.Divine said:

    “Jacob: You are definitely mistaken about one thing. These things are fucking delicious. At Warped tour a couple years ago, there was a booth selling these, and sweet christ are they good. They have a sweet candy taste, but also a very strong flavor taht tastes exactly like REALLY good weed smells.”

    Now that’s strange — how in the world can a candy flavored with schwaggy old hemp oil make a product taste like “really good weed”?

  38. Kwix said:

    “So if they can ban pot flavored lollipops because they give the “false impression that marijuana is fun and safe” what about candies that contain potentially deadly items like scorpions or HFCS?”

    Interesting — I did not realize that there were candies made from scorpions!!

    HFCS, however, is fine — at least its no more “deadly” than table sugar.

  39. I have a feeling that the “pot taste” is only partially due to the actual hemp oil, and more likely due to a bunch of artificial flavoring.

  40. The whole “bud of the month” centerfold concept is … how to put this … really fucking stupid.

    Not to horticulturalists!

    Seriously, the photos of these plants are amazingly detailed, drool-inducing to anyone who appreciates anything executed to the level of ‘high art’ (terrible pun intended)

    Or at least Pothead Porn.

    Examples =

    Purple Kush

    http://www.devilsharvest.com/html/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/Strains/Black%20Russian.jpg

    high-explosive, Grapefruit Kush

    http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/paintbller22/DSCN0786-1.jpg

    Haze/Skunk
    http://www.geocities.com/medicalmarijuana2003/Pictures/buds/haze-skunk01big.jpg

  41. Well, I feel slightly better, now that I’m not longer the biggest pot nerd here.

  42. Do pot nerds yank to pot porn?

  43. Maybe the DEA could team up with Evo Morales, who wants to sue Coca Cola for capitalizing on Bolivia’s “cultural heritage” (i.e. the coca plant).

    Didn’t they already try that in the 80’s?

  44. Go away! ‘batin’!

  45. Edit:

    …try something like that…

  46. How many of you have been told by a pot nerd, in a very serious voice, “I’m the guy that invented Maui Wowie”?

  47. 3 or 4 gram bud in bottle of vodka, or better gin, sit for a week, delightful taste treat

  48. violent_k: I don’t know who told you that, but he was a damn liar! I INVENTED MAUI WOWIE!!!

  49. Pot was a gateway drug in the sense that it introduced me to libertarianism. How common of an experience is that for libertarians? Less so than 2nd Amendment types, I presume, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a not-insignificant number of people who subscribed to libertarian political philosophy through an interest in marijuana legalization. Any thoughts?

  50. Thanks, I Self DEEEE Vine. Well, I hate hearing the cops at the door and chicks talking about how lousy I am in bed, so I guess I’m sticking to Yuppie Pot even if it has more calories.

  51. Weed Freak,

    Seriously though, never get high with pot nerds. NEVER. Its all they ever talk about. I’ve strangled a few to death.

    LOL,

    Boy Howdy, I really am stuck in the Stone Age. I had no idea, although I should have had a clue being that I hang around with libertarians sometimes. Problem is that all my old stoner friends have respectable jobs now and they really don’t want to get fired so nobody tokes anymore.

    All My Rowdy Friends Have Settled Down Regards, TWC

  52. Pot introduced me to cigarettes.

  53. Or I should say, “lack of pot introduced me to cigarettes”.

  54. Pot introduced me to cigarettes.

    Pot introduced me to a kettle. It, too, was black.

  55. Was there any food inside?

  56. Miche, that’s not REAL cocaine. 🙂

    No, No, No, the bud of the month centerfold is funny.

    Interesting — I did not realize that there were candies made from scorpions!!

    Don’t know about candy but at this place in Santa Monica you get scorpion on shrimp toast. I may have mentioned that before, if so, excuse the reruns.

  57. Pot introduced me to a kettle. It, too, was black.

    Thread winner.

    Rhywun, why is it that after a person smokes pot (I’ve heard) that cigarettes taste so weird?

  58. Rhywun, why is it that after a person smokes pot (I’ve heard) that cigarettes taste so weird?

    Never noticed that.

  59. Miche: There’s already calls to ban the Cocaine energy drink… at least here in the Cleveland, Ohio area…

    All because we must PROTECT TEH CHILLENS!

    Nephilium

  60. Rhywun, why is it that after a person smokes pot (I’ve heard) that cigarettes taste so weird?

    Never noticed that.

    Hmmm, maybe it’s just, er, the guy who told me that. Dude, makes good smokes taste like Whenstoned’s, enough to make you quit smoking, which I did long ago. Not for that reason though.

  61. Has anyone ever had (or knows where to get) original 1890’s recipe Coca-Cola? Not in the US, of course, but maybe in Columbia?

    I don’t think it is possible… But I tried Coca tea in Peru, which is supposed to be similiar in effect to the old school Coca-Cola, and I noticed no effect. I suspect that the 1890s Coca-Cola was not the crazy stuff they think it might be.

  62. TWC,
    Well duh. As for the real stuff, I tried it and liked it. ;o)

  63. “Less so than 2nd Amendment types, I presume,”

    I’ve known a (very, very) few intellectually honest people who’ve come to the conclusion that the WOD is just as anti-liberty as the War on Guns.

  64. people who’ve come to the conclusion that the WOD is just as anti-liberty as the War on Guns.

    They probably all comment here at H&R.

  65. I remember the “New Coke” marketing fiasco of the mid-1980s. I was amused, but skeptical, when Coca-Cola Classic was then marketed prominently bearing the “original formula” label and logo.

    Hmmm, I didn’t think so.

  66. Miche,

    As for the real stuff, I tried it and liked it.

    That was always my argument against giving coke a test drive. I thought to myself, what if you like it? That stuff is sixty bucks for a teeny tiny teaspoon full. Hell sixty bucks in those days kept my boat in high priced, high octane petrol for an entire weekend at the river. No mean feat either, that boat sucked gas like a fleet of Hummers.

    At the time I was dating a coke head chick and she’d get really grumpy when that teaspoon was gone. 🙂 Another argument against it. Course she had the monkey bad, turned out she was a drinker too.

  67. You can lead a horticulture…

  68. ..but you, like…

  69. …uh…

  70. The last really really amazing dope I experienced was a little strain out of alaska called “thunderfuck.” It was 1979. 265$/oz.

    The name was very appropriate.

    coma weed

  71. I’ve known a (very, very) few intellectually honest people who’ve come to the conclusion that the WOD is just as anti-liberty as the War on Guns.

    I just think the WOD is bad in general and helping to finance Leftists south of us to attack our friends.

    Of course, I am way proAmendment II, of the smart reading.

  72. Rehabbed Nerd,

    That’s Pot? Lawdy, wait, I already used back in the Stone Age, but it still fits.

    Now I’m going to go watch a movie….

  73. I’m surprised no one has mentioned the fact that the certain aforementioned coca-flavored soft drink was invented, cocaine and all, in Atlanta, a city in the state of…

  74. I think we have our Best Comment Thread of the Week.

  75. “I’ve known a (very, very) few intellectually honest people who’ve come to the conclusion that the WOD is just as anti-liberty as the War on Guns.”

    They are both a war on property rights.

    And a war on the idea that inanimate objects are morally neutral.

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