CISPA Passes House, “Shot Across China’s Bow” Says Primary Sponsor Mike Rogers

cispa thisjurvetson/foter.comThe House of Representatives passed “cyberthreat information sharing” legislation known as CISPA this afternoon by a a vote of 288-127 with 29 Republicans joining 98 Democrats in voting no.

The legislation allows the federal government to collect data from private corporations, without a warrant and their privacy policies for users would no longer be legally enforceable. Justin Amash’s proposed amendment to prevent that from happening failed earlier this week and is among the reasons (more regulations being another) cited by the White House when it issued a veto threat.

As it stands the legislation’s privacy protection consists of the federal government taking “reasonable measures” to limit its own data collection.

Prior to its passage this afternoon, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers, a primary sponsor of the legislation, framed it as a protection from intellectual property theft. “If you want to take a shot across China’s bow, this is the answer,” he told Congress just before it rejected a motion to recommit and then passed the bill.

The last time CISPA was in the Senate, it failed a cloture vote 52-46, as some clamor for it to be easier to pass legislation there

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  • Aresen||

    Pity about that foot being in the line of fire.

  • Blogimi Dei||

    Bootup 5 & 1/4 inch floppy discs. Awww yeah....

  • John||

    Has it ever occurred to these jackasses that it is up to the intellectual property owner to protect their property? Of course not but I digress. This is like passing a law that allows police to conduct warrantless searches of any home in America to deal with the problem of burglary.

  • Aresen||

    Don't give them ideas.

  • deified||

  • Raston Bot||

    and this whole time I thought he was a tuffgai true believer what w/ his whole criminal justice, FBI background. that he's just another typical greedy critter makes me feel a lot better about beating him.

  • A Serious Man||

    That was how Congressman Dana Rohrabacher explained it to us when he gave the keynote address at a Young Americans for Liberty convention on Saturday.

    And that guy hates Red China.

  • ||

    The last time CISPA was in the Senate, it failed a cloture vote 52-46, as some clamor for it to be easier to pass legislation there.

    Last night Tony said that the defeat of the Anti-Gun bill in the Senate was the result of "exploitation of the filibuster." This seemed odd, and I was trying to figure out when the filibuster was properly used and when it was exploited. I think I've narrowed it down to this definithion:

    filibuster exploitation -- An act that occurs any time the TEAM RED Senate refuses to cave to TEAM BLUE demands.

    Proper use of the filibuster -- An act that occurs any time TEAM BLUE Senators successfully oppose TEAM RED legislation.

    Can Tony come in here and explain how his definition is different than mine?

  • CE||

    Proper use of the filibuster: when you have to stand up for nine hours with no bathroom breaks and only a Snickers bar for sustenance, to prevent gross violations of the civil liberties of Americans, like Rand Paul did.

    Exploitation of the filibuster: all other uses to block debate and votes.

  • ||

    Well, if you like we can go back to the old days when you couldn't debate more than one bill at a time.

  • AuH20||

    I also want them to have to sleep at their desks. Being a Senator has become much too pleasant as of late.

  • Zeb||

    That sounds good.

  • AuH20||

    Actually, I will say that I hate one rule change: When they went from needing 1/3 to needing 40%, they also went moved away from "present and accounted for". To do a filibuster back in the old days, you not only held up all Senate business by talking (so if you wanted, say, a defense authorization passed, you either dropped the filibuster or the other side dropped the bill), but a vote could be called at any time, and if the necessary percentage of the room didn't support you, filibuster over. This led to cots being set up on the Senate floor, etc.

    But, we at a certain point decided that DOING STUFF was a more important job than actual parliamentary procedure, so now if you even just have one guy standing there after everyone goes home, he can say, "We're filibustering that" and the response is "Okay then, moving on to our next bill"

    So, as much as the new filibuster limits the Senate, it is also predicated on the idea that they do important work and pass a lot of laws and they must always do this and can't not DO SOMETHING for a whole week that a filibuster might take!

  • Hugh Akston||

    Well fortunately for us, the Democarrots, the party that holds civil liberties and the right to privacy as central planks in their platform, holds a majority in the Senate. So we're sure to see this struck down like so many other abridgements of our sacred rights as Americans.

  • Aresen||

    Hugh: Please, not so close to lunch.

  • Lord Humungus||

    paging Barfman!

  • Calidissident||

    Another job well done by the small government party ...

  • LTC(ret) John||

    I am a bit torn, which applies better here?

    "No, fuck you, cut spending"

    or

    "Fuck off, slavers"?

  • NeonCat||

    Fuck slavers, cut-off spending?

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Heyyyyyyy, I kind of like that!

  • Pro Libertate||

    I was thinking a line of incomprehensible gibberish.

  • Aresen||

    You're not in Congress, ProLib.

    Only congresscritters are allowed us of incomprehensible gibberish.

  • Pro Libertate||

    It's kind of like the dad (Kolchak!) from A Christmas Story being so pissed he couldn't speak correctly.

  • Zeb||

    But he is a lawyer.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Oh, stewardess! I speak jive.

  • Aresen||

    OFF TOPIC:

    Obama says Boston bomber 'picked the wrong city'

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/s.....athon.html

    I can't stop giggling when I read that headline.
    /tasteless

  • ||

    Boston is always the wrong choice.

  • CE||

    Which city did Obama want them to pick?

  • Lord Humungus||

    something more Texas-ey?

  • $park¥||

    "It is a good morning, because we are together," Menino said. "We are one Boston. No adversity, no challenge, nothing can tear down the resilience at the heart of this city and its people."

    Can we be certain that's what Mumbles Menino actually said?

  • Brett L||

    Obama made Menino look like a master orator.

  • Brett L||

    Grr. I saw part of his speech live at lunch. Like Chandler had Marlowe say, "you're like Hemingway. You think if you repeat yourself often enough what you say will become important." Obama kept repeating himself as a rhetorical device and it just stunk. Or my hatred has become so visceral I can't see past it. But I think he just stunk.

  • Pro Libertate||

    He really said that? Of course, the obvious--the insanely obvious--implication is that some city would've been the "right" city. What, some smaller town? Something in the South, maybe? Some gun nut locale?

  • Brett L||

    West, Texas?

  • Pro Libertate||

    Yes, about that--is it absolutely certain that was an accident?

  • Brett L||

    Yeah. 99.9%. There was a fertilizer fire that either got hot enough to blow up the ammonium nitrate or anhydrous ammonia (I've seen both). But there were firefighters on the scene before the explosion.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Okay. Missed most of the news this morning and wasn't sure.

    Is Obama flying there, too?

  • Brett L||

    Nah. Its just a flyover town in shit kicking state.

  • Pro Libertate||

    So he'll fly over it, dropping leaflets?

  • Aresen||

    But, of course, no one will ever call him on the inappropriate use of the rhetorical device.

    (That was what made me so angry about the Clint Eastwood "Empty Chair" debate: Eastwood used an ancient rhetorical device but was mocked for it. If Biden had done it, the MSM would have lapped it up.)

  • AuH20||

    Eh, all rhetorical devices anymore are judged on how the film. I liked the speech, but I can see how the empty chair may have looked weird.

  • mr simple||

    Obama has stepped into the role as the nation's consoler-in-chief many times before in his presidency, most recently in December after the massacre of 20 first-graders and six educators at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn. Before that, there were the deadly shootings in Aurora, Colo., Tucson, Ariz., and Fort Hood, Texas, as well as the natural disasters that tore apart towns and neighbourhoods in Missouri and the New York-New Jersey area.

    Yes, only since O became president has our nation faced any tragedies. Good thing he was in office.

  • Aresen||

    Well, there has been at least one ongoing tragedy since January 21, 2009...

  • CE||

    Ah, the good old days of the 5.25 inch floppy drive... I wonder how many kids today even recognize what those are? (Said the guy who was the last guy to take a typewriter to college).

  • Sevo||

    Why, (uphill to school both ways, 20' drifts, etc)!

  • $park¥||

    If that was a Commodore 64 in the picture, that would look exactly like the system I grew up with.

  • Paul.||

    If it were a Commodore 64 in the picture, the picture wouldn't have come out... because just like looking directly at God, you can't capture that awesomeness in a picture.

  • Lord Humungus||

    I too was a Commodore 64 guy. Long nights of Mountain dew and 8-bit porn

  • $park¥||

    My friends and I spent hours and hours building crazy shit with Adventure Construction Set. Back when EA was a badass company and not a nest of douches.

  • Pro Libertate||

    It is weird, because I remember loving EA. Now it sucks so much that its great, acquired subsidiaries (like BioWare) are damaged by its suckitude.

  • Brett L||

    Yup. About the time they sold a billion units of the sports franchise games, they got overrun with bean-counters. Because apparently regular sized dumptrucks full of money weren't enough.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Major games are much, much, much bigger than movies, and that gap is going to grow. So, personally, I'd avoid fucking with something that works.

    Flip side of that is the same downside to movie-making--spend a lot, lose a lot if it fails.

  • Brett L||

    Yeah. But my point is that they were hauling money off by the semi-truckload before they started being evil about DRM and resales. Because I guess they wanted to make it by the freighterload.

  • Pro Libertate||

    The evil often hurts their sales, so it's even more evil than regular evil.

    One thing that I think is really weak about game-making is how much the developers jump on bandwagons. Especially for platform games, originality isn't the order of the day, even though original games open up whole new fanbases.

    Movies have the same problem, only much worse.

  • Hyperion||

    GD GOP! This was passed by the GOP! Losers!

  • Aresen||

    What part of TEAM BERULED don't you get?

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