Radley Balko | November 4, 2008
My native state Indiana closes its polls at 6 pm. In the past, that and the state's reliably Republican electorate have made it the first state the networks call—generally around 6:01.
This year, the Hoosier state is a toss-up. But drug war opponents should keep an eye on the state's third district, where incumbent GOP Rep. Mark Souder looks to be in trouble. Souder is the ranking Republican on the House Subcommittee on Criminal Justice, Drug Policy, and Human Resources, which oversees federal drug policy. He has made continuing the drug war with Nixon-Reagan vigor one of his pet issues.
Souder once compared the use of medical marijuana to rape and child abuse. He added a provision to the Higher Ed act that would bar students convicted of any drug crime from receiving federal student loans. He has mocked medical marijuana patients, and cheered the DEA's war on prescription painkillers. Oh, and he had his butt handed to him a while back while defending those awful ONDCP ads on Tucker Carlson's MNSBC show.
Challenger Michael Montagno appears to be closing. Might be the makings of an early gift for drug reformers tonight.
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One of you theists, please send a prayer up in my name on this
one. Drug warriors or stupid, evil or both.
Thanx.
He needs to learn "the Barr lesson."
Be an asshole about drugs -- especially medical pot -- and you
become an asshole minus your political job. It's "tough love," but
look how well it worked in Barr's case. One "you lose" 2 by 4
upside his head was all it took, and he got religion.
that clip is awesome!
'well i know a lot of casual marijuana users so that's
wrong.'
nice.
I don't want "drug reform", I want complete legalization. I will
accept decriminalization as a compromise. But reform is cop
out.
The Democrats are no better than the Republicans on the drug issue.
History, even extremely recent history, demostrates this. Unless
Montagno is out campaigning to end prohibition, I won't expect
Hoosier's Third District to significantly change our Federal drug
policies. Replacing one drug warrior with another is not an
improvement.
After a 2005 medical cannabis press conference on the Hill, a
number of medical marijuana patients and activists were lobbying
and briefly occupied his office and explained to his lone staffer
present how Souder was hurting sick and dying Americans.
I protested at Barr's office in 1999, and was present when the ad
with Cheryl Miller was filmed, the "Why would you do that to me,
Bob" ad that lost him the election.
Souder does need to be Barr-ed from office. A lot of sick people's
spirits would be lifted!
Free Press poll in Michigan a couple of days ago gave Medical Marijuana a 2:1 majority. We'll see this evening.
Replacing one drug warrior with another is not an
improvement
Replacing a virulent drug warrior with a lukewarm one is
an improvement. Not as much as we'd like, but it is.
I don't want "drug reform", I want complete legalization. I
will accept decriminalization as a compromise. But reform is cop
out.
Amen, Brandy!
I really don't even like decriminalization. Everything would still
be illegal, so we would still have a black market and it likely
wouldn't reduce the crime and violence associated with drugs. I
would support it as a step toward legalization, but the final goal
should be to create a legal market for all drugs. I mean, really, I
want to be able to invest in companies that sell heroin.
Souder is a fucking lunatic.
Guys like this make my blood boil. A few points:
1) Maybe those ads would work better if they weren't filled with
hyperbole. I have friends who are very right wing, religious,
anti-drug who watch these commercials and just say "what the fuck
even I know that is stupid."
2) He said thousands have died from marijuana. Really? Where does
he get these facts at. To my knowledge no one has EVER died from
pot. Now sometimes people get in car crashes or other accidents,
and their drug test tests positive for marijuana. Then the COD is
marked as accident by intoxication. Unfortunately this is just not
the case, for one testing positive does not prove intoxication,
especially for weed which can stay in the system for months. For
two, at least everyone I know who smokes pot, is perfectly capable
of walking, talking, driving and all other forms of higher function
while high.
3) He said the marijuana of today was upwards of 30-40% THC and as
addictive and harmful as crack. I say, for the love of god man
where do you get your weed? To my knowledge the most potent form of
marijuana on the market today is 27% THC. I believe it is the
strain Strawberry Haze from Arjan at the Green House Seed Co. in
Amsterdam. (a.k.a. the King Of Cannabis)
4) I can't believe people still operate on this gateway drug
theory. If anything is a gateway it is the cigarettes, alcohol, and
prescription pills they can get legally. Seeing as how it's not
really true though it really doesn't matter. If someone starts
"poly drugging" as he termed it, it is by no consequence than their
own. They made the decision not the drug. People need to start
taking some personal responsibility.
And finally
I don't want "drug reform", I want complete legalization. I will accept decriminalization as a compromise. But reform is cop out.
I agree with this. Although all I do is smoke weed I think all
drugs should be legal, for medicinal, recreational and whatever
other reasons you could possibly think of.
# On whether to discuss drug law reform: "We don't debate the
pros and cons of rape or child abuse. We don't bring rapists in
here to explain their views."
# Explaining his opposition to needle exchange programs: "A woman
gets raped in the street by a heroin addicts, what are we going to
tell her when she finds out that the needle that enabled that
addict to get the heroin and then get him on the street to rape her
came from" a government needle-exchange program.
This guy has a thing with rape. Anyone want to bet against him
being some sort of deviant?
This is pretty thin gruel. Is there any indication that his opponent called him out for being a lunatic drug warrior? If there isn't, he is just a drug warrior who happened to lose for other reasons. Further, it is not like there is any indication that the other guy is that great.
This guy has a thing with rape. Anyone want to bet against
him being some sort of deviant?
He's a politician. I think that's kinda a requirement or
something.
This is pretty thin gruel.
Well, yeah. I didn't mean to imply that Souder might lose
because of his drug war lunacy. Only that him losing is in
general a good thing.
He's a politician. I think that's kinda a requirement or
something.
But even for a politician, he can't stop talking about rape.
My guess is little Willy, Willy won't go unless someone thinks it's
a rape.
I'd feel better about Mark Souder being defeated, if I wasn't afraid he'd run for president as a Libertarian in four years.
I couldn't listen to Souder through the whole video, but I could tell that he looks like the kind of guy who got a lot of wedgies in middle school. Possibly even by stoners.
Whenever drug policy becomes and election issue the people
choose liberty over security.
Souder sounds like a conspiracy theorist when accusing "liberals"
of hijacking the study. "Presumably several thousands have died" of
marijuana overdose? Either he's a liar or he's ignorant. "No drug
user is a single drug user."
I'll tell you Mr Souder, I smoke marijuana every fucking day and I
don't so much as take aspirin. I have a job and I support my
family. How dare you disparage my reputation to advance your
extremist political views.
We'll see who Mr Souder really works for when he gets his first
lobbying job. I hear the prison-industrial complex is hiring.
True Radley. I guess one less idiot in government can't be a bad thing regardless of the reason.
Replacing a virulent drug warrior with a lukewarm one is an
improvement.
I dunno if the Big O is your guy. Drug enforcement ratcheted up
under Clinton. Its a cheap and easy way for Dems to polish their
law and order cred with the knuckle-dragger crowd.
Still, you can Hope for Change! Just don't bet on it.
I can't believe people still operate on this gateway drug
theory.
My take is that illegal marijuana is a gateway to black market
dealers who will sell you the hard stuff.
The biggest hurdle to drug legalization aren't the drugs themselves, but the fact that it would be pretty difficult to argue for our current prescription medical non-[ab]usable drug regime if heroin and meth were legal. And if anyone can get their own drugs, that pretty much puts most doctors out of business (how many times do you go to the doctor for drugs for something that you've diagnosed yourself?). I'm not one for drug conspiracy theories (quite frankly I think the big pharma is too stupid to see the threat that legal pot could pose to it), but in the case of legalizing all drugs, there are certainly some huge interests at stake.
...but I could tell that he looks like the kind of guy who
got a lot of wedgies in middle school. Possibly even by
stoners.
You've clearly never smoked pot. The last thing you want to do
while high is give someone a wedgie.
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