The War on Pot is Over! (If We Want It)

Never again will a pol gain votes by attacking pot legalization.

This piece first appeared at The Daily Beast on October 30, 2013. Read the original here.

Years from now, 2013 isn’t going to remembered as the year when Obamacare went down faster than a Clinton-era White House intern, President Rand Paul made a name for himself by filibustering against drone strikes and secret kill lists, or Miley Cyrus twerked onstage as sexily as a Rhesus monkey with electrodes strapped to its genitals.

No, 2013 is going to be remembered as the year the drug war died as a political issue. The headline of the latest Gallup Poll on the subject says it all: “For First Time, Americans Favor Legalizing Marijuana.” Fully 58 percent of respondents agreed that “the use of marijuana should be made legal.” Not decriminalizedmedicalized, or any other weasel-worded synonym to keep the squares and the cops and the addiction-industry lobbyists from getting the vapors and reaching for a legal chill pill. Legalized. This year’s figure represents a massive, 10-point bounce from last year and an even longer, stranger trip from 1969, the first year Gallup popped the question, when just 12 percent said pot ought to be sold like beer, wine, and alcohol.

The only voters by age that still just say no are folks 65 years and older, and no matter how regularly they vote, they’re facing the harshest buzz kill of all, the one imposed by the conqueror worm. They will be replaced over time by cohorts of pot-friendly citizens. Despite the continuing presence of ardent drug warriors such as Joe Biden, who effectively created the drug czar’s office, Gallup finds fully 65 percent of Democrats sayyes to legal potSo do 62 percent of independents, the single-largest bloc of voters in the U.S. A shamefully low 35 percent of Republicans are in favor of ending marijuana prohibition, but they will either change their tune on this issue or fade away into obscurity, like a 1973 pot-laced concept album by the New Riders of the Purple Sage.

Who would have thought the war would end so quickly and without a final battle—only a mere 76 years after the feds first got the heebie-jeebies over reefer madness! The folks at Gallup point to the fact that Colorado and Washington state legalized recreational pot last year as a major contributing factor to the pro-legalization groundswell.

There’s more to it than just that, of course. All it took was annually arresting as many as thee-quarters of a million Americans for simple possession of weed and conducting 50,000 SWAT raids a year by poorly trained, armed-to-the-teeth cops who seem more likely to shoot your dog or bust into the wrong house as nab your friendly neighborhood drug kingpin. And an economic downturn that suddenly made the $50 billion we spend a year on direct costs for the drug war finally seem too steep a price (never mind the incalculable and disproportional toll paid by minority families and communities).Depressions and recessions—not to mention ballooning budget deficits and mounting national debt—really help make the case for limited government.

It helped, too, that California voters first passed a medical marijuana law in 1996 and the idea—approved by about 80 percent of Americans—has since spread to 19 more states and the District of Columbia. No real trouble has ensued (unless you are a chronic pain patient living in a non-medical marijuana state) and use rates among kids or anyone else haven’t jacked up. And it’s helped that 48 percent of Americans ages 12 and older have tried an “illicit drug” (the government’s preferred term) at least once in their lifetime, overwhelmingly without becoming addicted or even using the substance again. Then there’s the last three presidents of these United States, all of whom are known drug users. Indeed, Sen. Barack Obama even yukked it up publicly about how inhaling “was the point,” not long before setting a record for busting medical marijuana dispensaries as president.

[Watch the trailer for Reason TV's feature-length documentary on the drug war, America's Longest War. Article continues below video]

For all these reasons and many more, the war on pot is over. A large majority of Americans favor legalizing it and that’s not going to change. No politician is going to ever again gain votes or win an election by talking tough about pot.

And make no mistake: There is no war on drugs without the war on pot, which is the only illegal drug that anyone uses with any frequency. According to the government’s own stats, 7.2 percent of Americans cop to having smoked pot in the past 30 days, an imperfect but rough measure of regular use. The 30-day-use figures for other illegal—sorry, illicit—drugs are almost too small to measure: 0.1 percent for heroin, 0.2 percent for crack, 0.2 percent for methamphetamine, 0.1 percent for LSD, 0.2 percent for ecstasy. The only other substances that even top one percent are “nonmedical use of psychotherapeutics,” a category that includes prescription painkillers such as Oxycontin and Vicodin and anti-anxiety drugs such as Xanax. Even when bundled together, just 2.6 percent of Americans misuse prescription drugs in a given month.

Who supports keeping the drug-war gulag open to punish the 0.1 percent of acid eaters left in America, or even the 2.6 percent of sad-sack pill addicts? Lord knows we are slow to wisdom, but we’ve finally realized that prohibition exacerbates all the ills it’s supposed to prevent and only makes substance abusers less likely to seek treatment (who wants to admit to being a criminal on top of a junky?). The only question left—and it’s not a small one, for sure—is the one Secretary of State John Kerry asked as a Vietnam protester: Who’s going to be the last man to die for this mistake?

As in so many other urgent situations, Barack Obama’s widely praised ability to whip up sweet-and-sticky word-clouds of rhetorical cotton candy has abandoned him. In late August, nearly a year after Colorado and Washington state voters overwhelmingly rejected federal marijuana prohibition and legalize cannabis at the state level, the Obama Justice Department finally issued vague guidelines that kinda-sorta said that the feds wouldn’t prosecute producers and consumers of medical and recreational pot in states that had legalized such activities.

Unless, that is, the feds felt they should. As Tom Angell, the head of Marijuana Majority, told my Reason colleague Jacob Sullum, “My optimism is tempered by the fact that despite the Justice Department’s 2009 announcement that it shouldn’t be a priority to bust medical marijuana providers operating in accordance with state law, this administration went on to close down more state-legal marijuana businesses in one term than the Bush administration did in two terms.”

But who knows? As he struggles in his second term to fashion an unambiguous, unambivalent legacy, perhaps Obama will embrace the end of the drug war as his signature achievement, one that will surely outlive any political accomplishment of the 21st century so far.

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  • Fluffy||

    All hail the 9-0 Kansas City CHIEFS

  • Almanian!||

    Hail to the Chief(s), baby.

    /Bruce Campbell

  • ||

    For a brief time I thought the Bills might have ruined it for the Chiefs, but then the Bills acted like, well, the Bills. But the Jets beat the Saints!

  • Almanian!||

    J-E-T-S! Jets, Jets, Jets!

    I like that Jets fans can manage that. Good on ya, boys!

  • Fluffy||

    That's how you get to be a Jets fan: the word "Giants" is too long.

  • ||

    Or the Giants are fucking terrible.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    How about them Bucs

  • ||

    The Seahaawks are on their way back. This has been pretty retarded so far, though.

  • Warrren||

    Good for them. But they did put together a standard Bucs' defensive drive by allowing a TD on three plays covering 80 yards and committing major penalties in the process.

  • Warrren||

    Bucs now doing their usual "everybody start sucking at once" dance.

  • Warrren||

    And collapse at the end, as usual. Good job everybody.

  • Raven Nation||

    Is there anyway Schiano keeps his job?

  • Warrren||

    I hope not.

  • Ted S.||

    And for the rest of the week we're going to have to hear the fellating of how wonderful Seattle and Russell Wilson are.

    vomit, vomit, vomit.

  • BiMonSciFiCon||

    Russell Wilson is so good, he even throws touchdowns to the other team.

  • Hyperion||

    Fuck the squaws.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    The war on war however is still going on.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Majorities also oppose gerrymandering, Obamacare, ballot access laws, public school monopolies, convoluted income tax laws, etc. Doesn't matter.

  • Austrian Anarchy||

    Yes, just look at who took up torches and pitchforks in Colorado over marijuana legalization. It sure wasn't Joe Public.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Actually, if you were paying any attention, you'd know it was making a difference to Ocare and public education. The former gets Dems shellacked and the latter manifests as more and more home-schooling and charter schools.

    And um majorities in 2 states got it legalized at the state level. You sure are dumb Tulpa.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Obamacare didn't even get its namesake defeated, and the elected Dems continue to uniformly support it. 2010 was a long time ago.

    And um majorities in 2 states got it legalized at the state level.

    Via ballot initiatives. Those don't exist in many states or at the federal level, and the political class is just temporary shocked... they're already working to find ways to gut the new laws.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Obamacare didn't even get its namesake defeated

    Because its opponent basically created its embryo, and was a shitty candidate. Sure would feel like an idiot if I supported him!

    Via ballot initiatives. Those don't exist in many states or at the federal level, and the political class is just temporary shocked... they're already working to find ways to gut the new laws.

    1) Shock will turn to 'can this keep me in power?

    2) The 'gutting' is more like painful laceration. They're not gutting anything.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    The only voters by age that still just say no are folks 65 years and older, and no matter how regularly they vote, they’re facing the harshest buzz kill of all, the one imposed by the conqueror worm.

    Kind of harsh. In 30 years or so, us semi-libertarian Gen Xers will face the same fate and watch the utterly statist Y's and the Millenials take over.

  • Ghetto Slovak Goatherder||

    Kind of harsh. In 30 years or so, us semi-libertarian Gen Xers will face the same fate and watch the utterly statist Y's and the Millenials take over keep control.

    FTFY.

  • C. Anacreon||

    I'd have to believe that in 30 years many of those young statists will have more mature views.

    I've been laughing at some pundits who have been saying Millenials, unlike older people, reject having a house and yard and prefer apartments in the city! Duh, so did we when we were that age. But as you grow older and have kids, suddenly having a house, your own driveway, a backyard for barbecues and the kids to play in, sounds like a much better deal than just being close to where the hot bars are.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Doesn't matter if it's 'harsh'. It's true.

  • LynchPin1477||

    Who supports keeping the drug-war gulag open to punish the 0.1 percent of acid eaters left in America, or even the 2.6 percent of sad-sack pill addicts?

    Everyone who wants to control other people's personal decisions? You're a lot more optimistic than I am.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    The War on Sanity continues. Slate commentator:

    Retired UN Helicopter Pilot 16 minutes ago
    Hey Conservatives,

    Illegal things are Illegal.

    That's how civilization works.

    Seriously, if you didn't have that quote to latch onto then you wouldn't have anything to gripe about right now.

    I can concede it was too simplistic but so what?

    This definitely isn't the kind of thing that goes down into the history books which speaks ill of the conservative movement, that at the end of the day all they have to offer is death spiral wishful thinking and an extreme stretching of one single quote.

    Oh, also, something about a website that will be fixed in a couple of weeks and completely forgotten about.

    Illegal things (ie those dropped insurance plans) are illegal. That's how society works.

    Those masks have been ripped off, shredded, and burnt as an offering to Obama.

  • Almanian!||

    Hey, Former Baby Killer: "Illegal things are illegal - until they aren't any more, cause the law changed."

    Fuck off, slaver. I hope you get run over by a milk truck and choke to death on your own blood.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    If BO hadn't said "that quote to latch onto" the fucking bill probably doesn't pass.

  • Almanian!||

    Next up to be taken off the table for debate: circumcision, abortion, the Constitutionality of deep-dish "pizza", chemtrails, genetically-modified foods, immigration, public edumacation, social security, ROADZ, defense spending, health insurance, energy policy and the superiority of rugby.

    Still up for debate: foreign policy, public holidays and unions.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Speaking of narrowing acceptable debate:

    The People's Republic County of Fairfax had a budget surp this year. The main debate on how to handle this situation was between the county board, which wanted to give all county workers a one-time bonus, and the SEIU, which wanted the county workers to get permanent raises. No one even mentioned the possibility of rebating taxpayers.

  • GILMORE||

    "...the SEIU, which wanted the county workers to get permanent raises""

    Jesus fucking Christ.

    Because of a temporary surplus. These fuckers have absolutely no limit to their avarice.

  • Warrren||

    It's a commons.

  • anomdebus||

    Or perhaps putting it in the bank and only using it in bad times..

  • Pathogen||

    Oh come on... everybody knows the banks will steal it, and give it to those filthy rich 1%'ers... making them slightly richer...

  • C. Anacreon||

    No reason to do that. If there are bad times, that's what "emergency" tax increases are for (which amazingly always seem to become permanent).

  • ||

    So, no fighter jets spreading chemtrails that make uninsured immigrants leeching off of social security disability want drive across the street in electric cars to buy pizza-style casserole with GMO wheat crust and fetus pepperoni to feed to their circumcised children after they come home from their public school's rugby match?

  • Sevo||

    You left out Bush!

  • Aloysious||

    Thank you for not bringing up anal probing by aliens with a fetish for abducting humans. Or artisanal mayonnaise.

  • juris imprudent||

    the superiority of rugby

    The fuck you say. At least it is a game where the rules aren't made and ignored as the game is played.

    Exhibit A - the offensive pass interference against the Chargers wide receiver when there was zero contact between him and the DB.

    Exhibit B - holding on every fucking offensive lineman (Chargers too) on every fucking play to be called at utterly random determination.

  • AuH20||

    Yeah. Rugby is awesome. In terms of sheer, raw fitness, I'd say it is potentially more intense than basically any other sport, soccer included.

    Although, as towards the rules- the recent world cup where France played South Africa for the title (South Africa won thanks to kicks)? The only reason the French beat the All Blacks was because of an illegal forward pass. Seriously, watch that replay- it was a just slightly forward lateral pass that the ref didn't see.

  • Almanian!||

    The absolute best is girls/womens. My younger daughter played in high school and college - those games were INTENSE! The hitting was fucking incredible.

    Really enjoyable games to watch.

    And then, when the game's over - "hey, let's all eat lunch together!" Rugby - what a fucking awesome sport!

  • Raven Nation||

    Two World Cups ago, right? All Blacks won in 2011.

  • Ted S.||

    I figured he might be talking Rugby League as opposed to Rugby Union. Or sevens.

  • Raven Nation||

    I wondered that too but doesn't track either.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    You slay me, Nick.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    No politician is going to ever again gain votes or win an election by talking tough about pot.

    Hurr dee fucking durr.

  • Ted S.||

    Play one of the puppycide videos and claim your opponent gets his rocks off seeing the police kill puppies.

  • Rich||

    Not decriminalized, medicalized, or any other weasel-worded synonym to keep the squares and the cops and the addiction-industry lobbyists from getting the vapors and reaching for a legal chill pill. Legalized.

    Get back to me when you can fire up a doobie on the National Mall.

  • Ted S.||

    They'll still criminalize that, just like dancing at the Jefferson Memorial.

  • LynchPin1477||

    OT but this seemed worth sharing from an NBC News comment thread

    Difference Between Republicans and Democrats

    A Republican and a Democrat were walking down the street when they came to a homeless person. The Republican gave the homeless person his business card and told him to come to his business for a job. He then took twenty dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the homeless person.

    The Democrat was very impressed, and when they came to another homeless person, he decided to help. He walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions to the welfare office. He then reached into the Republican's pocket and gave the homeless person fifty dollars.

    Now you understand the difference between Republicans and Democrats


    Now if only we could actually find some Republicans like that....

  • Pathogen||

    You can, in the history section of your local library. Knowledge is power...

    *And that's one to grow on*

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Legislation by sob story

    THE biggest health care crisis in America right now is not the inexcusably messy rollout of Obamacare.

    No, far more serious is the kind of catastrophe facing people like Richard Streeter, 47, a truck driver and recreational vehicle repairman in Eugene, Ore. His problem isn’t Obamacare, but a tumor in his colon that may kill him because Obamacare didn’t come quite soon enough.

    Streeter had health insurance for decades, but beginning in 2008 his employer no longer offered it as an option. He says he tried to buy individual health insurance but, as a lifelong smoker in his late 40s, couldn’t find anything affordable — so he took a terrible chance and did without.

    tl;dr version: Some guy got sick, and it's not fair if he doesn't have free unlimited health care. ps- insurance companies are evil.

  • LynchPin1477||

    as a lifelong smoker in his late 40s, couldn’t find anything affordable

    Clearly you aren't suggesting that he live with the consequences of his actions, are you?

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Unfortunately, when he was a lad there weren't any public health crusaders like Mayor Bloomberg to help him resist the lure of tobacco.

  • Irish||

    Clearly no one knew that smoking was bad for you in the early-80's. If only they'd had better public health campaigns to inform the public!

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    I blame the X-Files.

  • Ted S.||

    The truth is not out there.

  • Warrren||

    It's in there, and by there I mean his colon.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    It's too bad he couldn't get a policy that covered only things that are unrelated to smoking. Unless he was smoking through his asshole, this is probably unrelated.

  • juris imprudent||

    Nick K. does wear a dress when he writes that drivel doesn't he?

  • Fluffy||

    Right. So we're going to improve the position of people who can't afford health insurance by pointing a gun at their head and telling them that if they don't buy it we're going to fine tax them 1% of their income. And that's just this year - from there it gets worse.

    Because you know, nothing helps people who can't afford stuff more than seizing a percentage of their income at gun point.

  • LynchPin1477||

    Because you know, nothing helps people who can't afford stuff more than seizing a percentage of their income at gun point.

    Except giving them someone else's money.

  • Live Free or Diet||

    The practical problem for them is they always assume there are more people with limos uphill of them than people with clunkers downhill of them.

  • Fluffy||

    But that's not going to help.

    They're all proud of themselves that the subsidies get the cost of the mandate policies down to $200 - $300 a month.

    Um...so fucking what? The people who are the target of this shit don't have $2400 - $4000 after-tax disposable dollars to spend on it.

    If they had $300 a month lying around, they could, you know, save for their retirement or their kid's education or all the other things the liberals always tell us people lack the disposable income to do.

    So all of a sudden they can piss that money into the Obamacare pot? Because Obama used his spear and magic helmet?

    The subsidies won't help. Broke is broke. Paying 80% of the cost of something doesn't help someone when they can't afford the other 20%.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    (Reuters) - Most American libertarians do not consider themselves part of the conservative Tea Party movement despite a public perception that the two political groups are linked, according to a national survey released on Tuesday.

    Libertarians, who generally support maximizing individual rights and minimizing the role of government, differ sharply with the Tea Party and religious conservatives on issues such as abortion and decriminalization of marijuana, according to the survey by the non-partisan Public Religion Research Institute.

    Sixty-one percent of libertarians do not identify themselves as part of the Tea Party, the survey showed. About 7 percent of the adult population is consistently libertarian and that includes 12 percent of those who describe themselves as Republicans. (Oct 29, 2013)

    Looks like I am in the majority and the Peanut Gallery is not.

  • GILMORE||

    CHRISTFAG!!! BUSHPIG!!!

    you are ugly and have no friends.

  • juris imprudent||

    despite a publicretard perception

    Right up your alley shriek.

  • Fluffy||

    So what you're saying is, if I took any 100 of your posts and read them out loud at the national convention of the LPA, everyone would agree with you?

    Share the drugs, you stingy bitch.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    No, because an inordinate number of my posts pertain to just a couple of items I disagree with posters here on.

    For instance, the Federal Reserve and fractional reserve banking. The gold standard and full reserve are downright antiquated and foolish.

    I skip topics where I fully agree with H&R convention like guns and the RKBA and capitalism

    But I dislike the knee-jerk Tea Party advocates who falsely call Warren Bufett a "socialist" because he supports Obama.

    And I have been out of good drugs for quite some time.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    I have been out of good drugs for quite some time.

    No one said they were good drugs, you methed-up chimpanzee.

  • General Butt Naked||

    No, because an inordinate number of my posts pertain to just a couple of items I disagree with posters here on are me slinging shit and screeching, "BOOOSH!!!" at the top of my lungs.

    There fixed that for ya, you sad little thing.

  • Live Free or Diet||

    But I dislike the knee-jerk Tea Party advocates who falsely call Warren Bufett a "socialist" because he supports Obama.

    Does it waddle like a dog, quack like a dog, float like a dog, fly like a dog and nest like a dog? Then, even as much as you want to call it a duck, it's a dog!

  • General Butt Naked||

    Ooh, finally another GOAT and Your MOM fan on here.

  • ||

    What the...

    I don't know what's worse about that video: the whole thing, or realizing that the youth tapping his balls with a stick had a rat tail. A RAT TAIL, GBN!?

  • Sevo||

    "But I dislike the knee-jerk Tea Party advocates who falsely call Warren Bufett a "socialist" because he supports Obama."

    Yeah, honesty isn't part of your act.

  • ||

    Bufett may be a socialist, I don't know since I've never met the man.

    But he's a fucking asshole to claim that people should pay more taxes when he does everything he can to avoid paying them himself.

  • Ted S.||

    No; they'd only agree with 94 of them since Palin's Asswipe is only 94% pure.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Big Ted Cruz-Rand Paul feud developing:

    According to the Times, Cruz threw a punch this summer, when he told a room full of Republican donors that Paul "can never be elected president...because he can never fully detach himself from the strident libertarianism of his father, former Representative Ron Paul of Texas." Cruz's comments got back to Paul, "touching off anger and resentment." Paul's team now reportedly refers to Cruz as "the chief of the wacko birds" (credit: John McCain.) And, like many others, Paul — who voted with Cruz during his suicide mission defund Obamacare — has privately complained that the effort was "futile" and "damaging" to the GOP.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelli.....-last.html

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    I've heard that guys who get 94% on libertarian purity tests have really small wangs.

  • Ted S.||

    You'd be wrong, because I'm more than 94% pure, and I've got a massive wang.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    No, no, it doesn't affect people either more or less pure than 94% -- just the 94%ers.

  • Pathogen||

    Palin's Buttplug|11.3.13 @ 5:25PM|#

    Boosh boosh boooosh, booo sh booosh boosh... Boooosh boosh?

    Booosh boosh boosh "Booosh boosh booooosh!", booosh booooosh booosh... Booosh booosh booosh booosh BOOOSH!?!... Boosh?

  • Cytotoxic||

    This is fantastic news. A Cruz-Paul slugfest is like a fight between good and much better. It will toughen Paul up and suck oxygen away in the short term from cretins like Christie (who is getting pumped HARD by the WSH). It moves the whole GOP 'center of gravity' in our direction.

  • Sevo||

    So last week, the local lefty fish-wrap can't find anything about O'care to write about. Instead we get a front page story about a feud between two GOPers.
    Hey! Look over there!

  • GILMORE||

    In related news, as recently as 2012, NYC arrested 50,000 young kids for criminal possession of weed. Because FYTW

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    Hell, maybe we can get ObamaCare to cover our doobies in this great libertarian future I've heard so much about.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Looks like I am in the majority and the Peanut Gallery is not.

    Being a libertarian means never saying, "Everybody agrees with me."

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I DISAGREE.

  • Live Free or Diet||

    Or are you just disagreeable?

  • Ted S.||

    Circle gets the square.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Dispassionate, detached, neutral,

    But this situation isn't the result of parallel changes on both sides of the aisle. "The Democrats, the number of centrists has shrunk a bit, the number of conservative Democrats has shrunk a bit, but it's not that dramatic, and the Democratic party, certainly in Congress, is a mix of centrists, moderately liberal and very liberal people," says Haidt. "Whereas the Republicans went from being overwhelmingly centrist in the '50s and '60s, to having almost no centrists," Haidt says.

    And of course, the extremes are the most morally driven, the most intense.

    From the centrist perspective, Haidt recently tweeted that "I hope the Republican party breaks up and a new party forms based on growth, not austerity or the past."

    "Gooble, gobble, gooble gobble."

  • Ted S.||

    From the centrist perspective, Haidt recently tweeted that "I hope the Republican party breaks up and a new party forms based on growth, not austerity or the past."

    That what the libertarians are for. I'm sure Haidt just loves us.

  • Cytotoxic||

    new party forms based on growth, not austerity or the past."

    I'd ask 'WTF does this mean?' but I know euphemisms when I see them.

  • Irish||

    It means 'New party forms with the exact positions of the Democrats.'

    The left yearns for a one party state, but they know it wouldn't be palatable to the American public. As a result, they just try and argue in favor of two parties with identical positions.

    I also don't know how the left can attack a party for being based on the past when the left is nothing but warmed over New Dealism and small amounts of unattributed Marxism.

    They have an economic system based primarily on the 150 year old rantings of a drunk, smelly German that stole money from his aristocratic wife. How progressive.

  • Cytotoxic||

    I swear Liberals used to have some perspective but they've gone crazy lately as they morph into Progs. In Ontario, the opposition leader is some statist-conservative asshole named Tim Hudak. No positions except for supporting a compulsory 5% biodiesel content in fuel. Progs call him 'Tea Party Tim' because anything that could even POSSIBLY be dissent from the SQ must be purged and cauterized.

    In Canada, the 'conservative' party used to be the Progressive Cons which was as shitty and statist as you'd expect. The emergence of the actually right-wing Reform party and victory by its progeny, the CPC (which is statist but is perceived by the left as actually libertarian) is something the progs just cannot handle. They are losing their minds. Same deal with the GOP Liberty Caucus.

  • Winston||

    Can't forget the prog hate of Rob Ford.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    More:

    To unpack a bit more what this means, consider "harm." This moral foundation, which involves having compassion and feeling empathy for the suffering of others, is measured by asking people how much considerations of "whether someone cared for someone weak and vulnerable" and "whether or not someone suffered emotionally" factor into their decisions about what is right and wrong. As you can see, liberals score considerably higher on such questions. But now consider another foundation, "purity," which is measured by asking people how much their moral judgments involve "whether or not someone did something disgusting" and "whether or not someone violated standards of purity or decency." Conservatives score dramatically higher on this foundation.

    Liberals good.

    Conservatives evil.

  • Rich||

    You mean, it's evil to consider something disgusting?

    That's disgusting!

  • General Butt Naked||

    Liberals only care for the poor and downtrodden insofar as they can stick a gun to someone's head to help them.

    Morality by proxy and dependent on coercion is immorality.

  • Irish||

    Look at how many liberals have complained when it turned out they'd be the ones paying for Obamacare. Look how many liberals complained when the social security tax increased at the beginning of 2013.

    They want to force other people to pay for their programs but get upset when they're the ones who actually have to.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Don't you remember, BO-Care was supposedly going to lower the cost of health insurance across the board. Presumably that's what they're shocked by, as they were drinking the unsweetened fruit beverage.

  • Agammamon||

    *Nobody* can drink the Kool-Aid without sweetening, nobody.

  • LynchPin1477||

    On two separate occasions I *ate* the Kool-Aid dry, without sweetening. That is awful, awful stuff. I wasn't drunk. The first time was out of curiosity, the second time was a dare.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    How in the world did you avoid throwing up? I'd imagine that stuff would irritate the hell out of your gullet.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Totally. Could you imagine how many of these programs we'd have if we'd actually had to pay for them directly?

    That is, without the hidden taxes of printing/borrowing.

  • Cytotoxic||

    And that is why Canada's GST and PST are Godsends.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Oh come on. Plenty of liberals do volunteer work and donate to charities from their own money.

    This need to make someone into a moral monster because you disagree with them politically is what's tearing civil society in this country apart. And guess who benefits when that happens?

  • Fluffy||

    They're falling all over themselves at Mother Jones to reiterate and embrace the claim that their primary concern is harm.

    And you know what? If that's your primary concern, you ARE a moral monster, even if you're sincere.

  • Cytotoxic||

    This need to make someone into a moral monster because you disagree with them politically is what's tearing civil society in this country apart. And guess who benefits when that happens?

    This is intentionally ironic, right?

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    If you're referring to my opinion of your support for drone-murder and justification of innocent deaths thereby... there's no need for me to make you a moral monster for that; it's morally monstrous in itself.

  • Cytotoxic||

    What...what the fuck are you talking about? Are you turning schizo from all of your butthurt over Reason's non-support of fellow drone-murder lover Mitt Romney?

  • Irish||

    This is based on what liberals CLAIM to care about. It's just that liberals are liars.

    They want to see themselves as the sort of people who 'care' and want to 'help' but they never actually look at their positions and see what the impact of their policies are. This is because they don't care about helping, they care about puffing up their own egos and engaging in a narcissistic psychodrama with poor people as their props.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Maybe that's why red states donate more money as % income to the poor than do blue states.

  • LynchPin1477||

    Consider defining "compassion and empathy" as something other than "forcing other people to pay for shit I like" and liberals score dramatically lower.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    It's a commons.

    KEEP OFF THE GRASS

  • Live Free or Diet||

    What a tragedy.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Guys, I just scratched my LCD TV with a fucking curtain rod. Just barely bumped it, but you can see the fucking scratch when a light background is on.

    Does anyone have a fix?

    The intertubez say to use Vaseline. There is a scratch remover called Novus, advertised on ebay as LCD repair but some guy on Amazon says don't use it on LCDs.

    Help, anyone?

  • Pathogen||

    Do you have a dremel? How about a ruby-corundum grinding wheel?

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    No, I don't, but I could pick one up.

  • Pathogen||

    When you do, grind a big fucking "X" across the exact center of the screen... you'll barely notice the curtain rod scratch after that...

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Thanks.

  • Ted S.||

    I guess you shouldn't have come here for advice.

    Surprise, surprise.

  • GILMORE||

    saw that coming a mile away

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Talk about insensitive. I bet you made fun of Gabbi Giffords after she got brained, too.

  • Pathogen||

    I gave him two links, just below this post. The Vaseline idea seems to be spot on, although I personally would try the eraser/ Isopropyl solutions first... to at least try and determine how deep the scratch is. I'm sure he appreciates your compassion as much as I appreciate your hyperbole, and I hope you will concern troll on my behalf sometime too. You are a gentleman and a scholar...

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    ...and people say libertarians are heartless.

  • Ted S.||

    Don't watch programs with light backgrounds?

  • Pathogen||

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Thx Path.

    Think I'll try the eraser first.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Help, anyone?

    I'd use this opportunity to buy a bigger, better, newer teevee.

    Remember, never let a tragedy go to waste.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    Well, now we know what username Paul Krugman posts under on Reason.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Just over a year old. 60" Got it the day we moved in.

    Fuck me!

  • Pathogen||

    Is it a rear projection set, or flat panel?

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Flat

  • Pathogen||

    Shit... How deep is the scratch?

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Good news. I think it was more paint than scratch. A little Philips screen cleaning gel and it either buffed out or came off.

    Thank Christ (or another mythical super-being of your choosing)!

  • Pathogen||

    Another lucky winner...

    Jesus Christ, I hope you didn't use that grinding wheel then...

  • SweatingGin||

    Never tried it, or even googled it, but I wonder if a headlight repair kit would do anything. I suppose it's probably plastic, too.

    Maybe some 800 and 1600 grit sandpaper? There were some people that sanded the backs of their iPhone 3, with 800+, and got amazing results.

  • Agammamon||

    Why don't you just have one of the orphans run down and pick up another TV for you? Some of the others can put on an entertaining play while you wait for the new one.

    Heck, if the old one's more than 6 months old its time to get a replacement anyway.

  • SweatingGin||

    6 month olds don't put on very good plays.

  • Agammamon||

    The TV, duh. The 6 month old orphans are in the veal pens, obviously.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    And lose out on all that productivity down in the diamond mine?

    Orphans, back to work, I'll get it myself!

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    so send a Valet.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Good call.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    I just scratched my LCD TV with a fucking curtain rod. Just barely bumped it, but you can see the fucking scratch when a light background is on.

    WWED?

    *What Would Elvis Do?

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    I didn't draw a TV tag this year.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Don't watch programs with light backgrounds?

    No more women's World Cup downhill?

    UNACCEPTABLE.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Mitt Romney: Obama's dishonesty will rot his second term

    Mitt Romney accused President Obama on Sunday of lying to Americans about whether they could keep their health insurance, suggesting the Affordable Care Act is undermining his former rival's second White House term.

    In an appearance Sunday on NBC's Meet the Press, the 2012 GOP presidential nominee criticized Obama's repeated assertion while the legislation was being debated in Congress that people would get to keep their health care plan.

    "He wasn't telling the truth," Romney said. "I think that fundamental dishonesty really puts in peril the foundation of his whole second term."

    The Obama administration has stressed in recent days that people who lose their health care coverage — because their existing plan does not meet minimum standards under the federal law — will be able to get better insurance coverage as required by the Affordable Care Act.

    Romney also rejected comparisons Obama has made between problems with the national law and its dysfunctional website, HealthCare.gov, and the Massachusetts plan and its initial enrollment challenges. If he won the 2012 election, Romney said, he would have given states more flexibility.

    The reaction from the left to this is pretty hilarious. They truly hate this man.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    It does piss me off that he's still trying to defend MassCare at this point.

  • Irish||

    That's because Romney is a classic Rockefeller Republican. The fact that the left tried to paint him as some kind of anti-government ideologue was one of the strangest instances of mass delusion that I have ever seen.

  • ||

    Well, when you hear someone going on about how these milquetoast anti-gun socialist Republicans are THE MOST EXTREME IDEOLOGUES EVER, at least they're wearing their idiocy on their sleeve.

    Quite frankly I have no idea how that's so popular, though, because all you have to fucking do is look at political positions then and now. It becomes a game of "useful idiot, willfully mendacious, or both?"

  • Boisfeuras||

    It's because the left is an admixture of useful idiots and mendacious ideologues, who are either uninformed about American political history or intentionally distort it for political gain, respectively.

    It is self evident that mainstream U.S. politics has been on a leftward trajectory since at least the start of the Progressive Era in the late 19th century. Both party establishments were more 'conservative' as you go further back in time.

    They are terrified of a reactionary movement within the Republican Party, because it threatens to undermine their heretofore successful Fabianist tack.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    I'm not sure about that. The two major parties were a lot closer together in the 1970s, pre-Reagan, than it is now.

    Both parties' bases have gotten more extreme, it's just that the Dem variety of extremism is more conducive to centralized federal power, so the statists (what he means by centrists) have less of a problem with them.

  • Pathogen||

    " Romney said, he would have given states more flexibility."

    Odd... I didn't read "Repeal", in any part of that statement...

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    The president doesn't have the power to repeal acts of Congress.

  • Agammamon||

    No, but apparently he has effectively unlimited power to modify those acts through executive orders.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Which is not repeal.

  • Pathogen||

    "The president doesn't have the power to repeal acts of Congress."

    Lol.. that's rich...

    So then, he would issue everybody waivers then? Or would he use his awesome Executive Order Powers™ and make it just go away...

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    So then, he would issue everybody waivers then?

    Yes. He said this several times during the campaign.

    If you were getting your campaign coverage through the Suderman Filter, it's unsurprising that you wouldn't have known that.

  • Pathogen||

    The problem here is *ROMNEY*, Tulpa. He's not running for office, so he can be as candid as he wants. " Romney said, he would have given states more flexibility *gone about the business of getting it repealed."*, that's what he 'could' of said, but he didn't. Even if Romney would of won, it seems he had no intention of supporting a repeal. If Romney was in the White House, do you think Cruz's stand would of fared any better? Do you think it would of happened at all? Or... do you think they would of went about the business of... Fixing It?

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    If Romney was in the White House, do you think Cruz's stand would of fared any better?

    No, because President Romney would have little influence on the Democrat Senate. BO wasn't the obstacle there.

  • Pathogen||

    Republican President/ Republican congress == Defund Obamacare, they would have set the agenda... And yet, I bet it still wouldn't have happened...

  • Sevo||

    ..."Mitt Romney accused President Obama on Sunday of lying to Americans about whether they could keep their health insurance,"...

    Yes, he certainly did and the Obots say "Look over there! Bush!"

  • Pompey||

    Anyone know of a [U.S.] domestic importer of Swedish snaps aka akvavit?

  • Fluffy||

    No, but George Mueller could make you some in his bathtub.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

  • Ted S.||

    I didn't see anything in a quick Google search, but then I don't drink aquavit.

  • Pompey||

    Alas minutes of my top notch Google jockeying have also been fruitless. A Norwegian dude at one of my company's suppliers was also fruitless ("Myfamily brings my stash to me yearly and no sharing" - ahahahaha fuck your dead end soul in the bum-bum.)

  • Raven Nation||

    Can you live with Norwegian aquavit?

    http://www.budgetbottle.com/?iVar=856

  • Pompey||

    Yeah I have that actually. All aquavit has its own character. I am specifically interested in a US importer that can get Bäska Droppar, which is amazing shit. There are some domestic makers of a similar liquor in the bäska style, but I haven't found a local plase to stock or special order those either.

  • Raven Nation||

    You ever tried Brennivin - Icelandic schnapps?

  • Pompey||

    No I haven't. My Scandinavian liquor exposure is admittedly limited. You have my attention...do you have any special insight or a domestic source?

  • Raven Nation||

    Unfortunately, no. I think you have to buy it from the source, although you can do it directly online from NordicStore.

    I was in Iceland for a few days and tried it. I don't think it as smooth as Akavit (which I haven't had in a while) but it will definitely open your eyes. I bought a half liter bottle and nursed it for a year. Normally drunk chilled, neat.

  • Raven Nation||

    Wouldn't be cheap though: about $40 + shipping for 1/2 liter.

  • Pompey||

    Thanks for the tip. Blows my mind just how short of a plane ride it is to Iceland. I've never been.

    This thing is really interesting, and although I am betting some might find it ho-hum.


    This stuff is a dill infused drink from Sweden. I never had a "water of life" that was infused with dill. Very tasty.

    Linky drinky

  • Raven Nation||

    Brennivin has cumin.

    Iceland is really worth the visit. Especially since their economy tanked and the exchange rate has shifted.

  • Pompey||

    Interesting. Thanks.

  • ||

    I don't know if they still ship to the US, but this company used to, and they have akvavit.

  • Pompey||

    It humours me to consider having to buy aquavit online from Spain. Two of those can be had locally. Since there doesn't seem to be a US distributor for Swedish aquavit, maybe there is a business opportunity there.

    I just remembered that Ikea's retail store in Hong Kong has a fair cumin-infused snaps, but I haven't visited the nearest one in Metro Boston yet.

  • Pompey||

    If you folks care, I found an online source for a Swedish recipe, American company, French production bäska. Plaintext link below because my mobile's paste function is not behaving.

  • Pompey||

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Talk about insensitive. I bet you made fun of Gabbi Giffords after she got brained, too.

    you know who else made fun of Gabbi Giffords?

  • Pathogen||

  • Rich||

    Everyone who misspelled her name?

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Because Obama used his spear and magic helmet?

    Kiww da wabbit!

    KIWW DA WAAAABBIIIIIIT!

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    I just scratched my LCD TV

    That's rough. Best of luck.
    I have a stuck pixel, and nothing I've ever seen online for the fix has worked.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Fernando Alonso is going to be OK.
    Check out the crazy picture

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Two planes collide in mid-air; everyone survives

    It's the kind of story that could've easily had a very different ending: Two planes carrying skydivers collided yesterday in the skies over Superior, Wis., causing one plane to break up and scatter debris over the town as the skydivers jumped clear of the plane.

    The best part: All 11 aboard the two planes lived to tell the tale, reports the Star Tribune.
    [...]
    The pilot of the plane that broke up was also able to jump to safety; he sustained cuts and needs "some stitches, but he's not seriously hurt," says Robinson. The second pilot landed safely.

    Officials think that one plane got caught in the wash of the other, and got sucked in until they bumped. But just jumping clear of the planes wasn't the last obstacle for the skydivers, who fell to Earth right along with debris from the plane that broke up.

    "We open our parachutes, and now all the sudden (the debris is) falling faster than we are," says Robinson. "Fortunately, everybody kept it together so they just avoided (it)."

    I hope there's footage of this.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Was the plane stationary above the column they were falling in? Not sure how else debris could be above them when they opened the chutes.

  • Agammamon||

    When the engines cut out the plane's velocity would drop rapidly - it wouldn't be surprising that the plane was unpowered by the time the passengers and crew abandoned it and so would be going pretty slowly.

    Then, as pieces broke off the main body they would lose almost all forward motion pretty much immediately due to drag so anything that broke off at the time they jumped would be at the same horizontal speed as the jumpers.

  • Cytotoxic||

    I've mentioned this before but in Canada, Liberal leader Trudeau has made MJ legalization a plank. The ruling Conservative government is so retarded that they've actually taken to parodying themselves with 'Trudeau favor DEVIL WEED'-level of counter-rhetoric. Stephen Harper is a small-brained retard bereft of any strategic or policy wisdom. He was always inept but lately he is on his own planet regarding the Senate scandal.

  • Winston||

    I am surprised that Reason has ignored Justin Trudeau. Harper does support socialized medicine so I guess that is good enough for Matt Welch.

  • Cytotoxic||

    BURN

  • The Late P Brooks||

    New front in the War on Airports
    wi/ bonus "think of the childrun!" plea.

    No need to call Tarzan to wrestle the gator, which was only about 18 inches long. An airport worker used a broom and dustpan to capture it. Animal control picked it up from police and handed it over to the Chicago Herpetological Society.

    "What if a little kid grabbed this, thinking it was a toy? That could do a nasty job," said Bob Bavirsha, a reptile rescuer with the group.

    Obviously a kamikaze alligator, sent to wreak havoc on the travelling public. This was just a dry run; next time, he brings the TNT.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    The guy who left the poor thing in the airport deserves whatever he gets. Apparently the gator was malnourished, too.

  • Warrren||

    Now if we only get rid of the Crocs. Those fuckers are everywhere.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    People who wear Crocs are bad, but then there are people who wear Crocs with Socks!

  • SweatingGin||

    I expected a tumblr filled with such images.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

  • SweatingGin||

    For fucks sake, I meant that as a joke.

  • Warrren||

    Welcome to Hit 'n Run!

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Leave Tim Tebow alone!

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Leave Tim Tebow alone!

  • Warrren||

    Man, you love that guy.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    I had my first experience with a venomous snake last month. This northern boy wonders how the fuck you people can allow these creatures to live among you.

  • Pope Jimbo||

    To quote Adam Carolla:


    Wearing crocs is like getting a blow job from a guy. It feels great, but then you look down and realize you are gay.
  • The Late P Brooks||

    Apparently the gator was malnourished, too.

    NEEDZ MOAR TINY FINGERS

  • The Late P Brooks||

    causing one plane to break up and scatter debris over the town as the skydivers jumped clear of the plane.

    THIS IS WHEN YOU ABANDON THE AIRCRAFT.

    NOT BEFORE.

  • Cytotoxic||

    The Costa Concordia was a cruise ship not a plane. If that's what you were thinking on the last line.

  • cavalier973||

    OT:

    Speaking of the late Lou Reed, I've just discovered my favorite cover of his song "Perfect Day".

  • Juanita juanita||

    The illegality of marijuana is the Law of the Land.Think of the little ones. Do we really want to say it is OK for children to get addicted?

  • Hyperion||

    Am I the only one who remembers, that back before they really started going after the marijuana pushers, those fiends were on every playground pushing the devils weed to 5 year olds? It was anarchy, a virtual libertarian paradise!

  • Hyperion||

    And what's worse, back then, in the bad old days, you couldn't find a decent monocle polisher because all of those orphans with such fine little fingers perfect for polishing, were all strung out on the pot!

  • Pathogen||

    ". Do we really want to say it is OK for children to get addicted?"

    Good god, I hope so... I own stock in Big Marijuana™..

  • Hyperion||

    So, the progressives eventually make sure that most MJ commerce is fully in the hands of large corporations, via cronyism. Then their useful idiot voters whine and scream about Big Marijuana controlled by the evil Koch Brothers?

    Sounds about right to me.

  • Hyperion||

    The war on pot is over!(If we want it)

    I want is. Ok, let's see.... Nope, it's still there. The WOD, that is. Know why? It's only 3 letters and it has a massive budget, and it fully wants that the war on pot is NOT over.

    Pot will eventually be fully legal in the US, well, as fully legal as alcohol is. I think that it will be another 10 years before we see the end of pot prohibition in the US. Other states will follow the lead of WA and CO, and eventually, the feds will just give up. But the WOD itself, I don't see that ending in the next 20 years.

    Also, nationalized healthcare will eventually take the place of the WOD. Since the government will be fully responsible for your health care, they will just regulate any behavior that they don't like through that. In ways, I can imagine it being just as bad as the WOD is now.

  • Irish||

    Even if pot is fully legal, Colorado has decided to tax it at 30%. If other states do the same thing, then there will still be a massive black market for weed because taxes on pot will be too high. So they'll just bust people for selling legal products on the black market.

    It's pretty mendacious to call that 'progress.'

  • Cytotoxic||

    This black market will be A LOT less violent than the old one. Still a paradigm shift.

  • Hyperion||

    It's progress, just really slow and ugly progress. The prices will have to come down to make a legal market feasible, and I think that eventually, they will. Just like alcohol, things will settle down, in time.

  • Pathogen||

    Even if pot is fully legal, Colorado has decided to tax it at 30%. If other states do the same thing, then there will still be a massive black market for weed because taxes on pot will be too high. So they'll just bust people for selling legal products on the black market.

    It's not like a Stamp Act catch all, or anything...

  • Juanita juanita||

    Some audio company called "Sonos" is using The Dead Boys to sell surround sound.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Female role-models Disneyified

    OK. I like what he's getting at. Trumble, who collaborated on the project with psycologist Lori Day, also said he's well aware that the images are polarizing.

    The statement I wanted to make was that it makes no sense to put these real-life women into one limited template, so why then are we doing it to our fictitious heroines?

    When we have companies like Disney who pretend to be our best friends by giving us 'strong female characters' like Merida, then suddenly do a 180 and revert to their old ways, it's good to do something to hold their feet to the fire. We need to remind them that they can't pull the old switch-and-bait when it comes to portraying female characters. I think the project does a great job of demonstrating how reductive that 'princessification' process is.

    But a cartoon Malala? A sparkly, shiny cartoon princess Anne Frank? In a glittery dress? 'Polarzing' doesn't begin to describe the ramifications of using women who basically defined entire movements in history and Feminism in imagery like this.

    I give up. What should little girls be looking at in children's movies?

  • cavalier973||

    Why do people go to the Jezebel site again?

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Well this one I found in my Facebook newsfeed.

  • Hyperion||

    Here's my thoughts on this.

    Whoever wrote that needs to find something useful to do, or STFU and bake us a nice turkey pot pie.

  • LynchPin1477||

    I knew a girl who's sister did a graduate degree (I think masters but maybe Ph.D.) in film studies (I was as confused as you are). Apparently her thesis was on the harm that Disney princesses do to young girls. Yeah...

  • ||

    Anita Sarkeesian's thesis

  • Irish||

    Well, at least this guy talks about actual, important women like Malala Yousafzai. Jezebel spends most of their time whining about the dread horror of the male gaze while women like Malala get shot in the face for trying to allow women to go to school in an area controlled by the Taliban.

    And how did Ann Frank 'define entire movements in history and Feminism?' Anne Frank is a tragic figure who was killed by Nazis, but what about her life sparked any sort of actual movement that improved the lives of women?

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Anne Frank is valued for providing a first-hand historical account of life in hiding from the Nazis in a way that's accessible to children and young adults.

    That's it.

  • Irish||

    Exactly. She's an important historical figure due to her book and because it puts a human face on the Holocaust. Without human faces like that, something like the Holocaust will always run the risk of just becoming a collection of numbers at which point people won't realize how horrible it really was.

    I'd actually argue that one of the reasons people don't realize how horrible the Russian purges were is because there weren't any documents like Anne Frank's diary that survived to show people. At least not until the end of the USSR and the opening of Russian archives.

    In that regard Frank is very important. At the same time there was no 'movement' started by her that improved the lives of women.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Quite right. If a Jewish boy had written the same diary, I don't think the effect would have been that different.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    I'd actually argue that one of the reasons people don't realize how horrible the Russian purges were is because there weren't any documents like Anne Frank's diary that survived to show people.

    And the professional left suppressed any attempt to report on them.

    FDR knew about the Katyn massacre before he knew about the Holocaust, but there was no way he was going to allow our ally Uncle Joe to be embarrassed.

  • Irish||

    Also the little issue of people like Walter Duranty claiming that any report of Soviet famines was propaganda and not to be trusted.

    Really wonderful guy, that Walter.

  • Raven Nation||

    And the Pulitzer not rescinded:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11.....2PAPE.html

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    The Pulitzer Prize Board's statement acknowledged that Mr. Duranty's prizewinning articles had fallen far short of "today's standards for foreign reporting." But the board concluded after months of debate that there was "no clear and convincing evidence of deliberate deception" by Mr. Duranty in the articles that won the prize.

    So grossly deluded and factually wrong reporting is still eligible for a Pulitzer, as long as it's not deliberate. Cool.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    What about clear and convincing evidence that the reports were simply *wrong?* If that's not adequate to revoke a Pulitzer, I wonder what other Pulitzer-winning stories were refuted, but the Pulitzer was never revoked because the author was too sincerely dumb to know the real facts.

  • Raven Nation||

    And, sadly, Churchill was pretty sure it was the NKVD and kept it secret too.

  • Pathogen||

    "FDR knew about the Katyn massacre before he knew about the Holocaust, but there was no way he was going to allow our ally Uncle Joe to be embarrassed."

    America was largely populated with Germans and Poles, Public opinion against aid and alliance for Stalin would of been deafening, to say the least, if news of the Soviet atrocities in Poland (and the Ukraine)had been made as public as the German atrocities...

  • Hyperion||

    Jezebel spends most of their time whining about the dread horror of the male gaze

    Women who go on with hot air like that, only wish the hell that they could get a man, ANY man, to give them the evil male gaze. That's the problem, and why they won't shut up about it.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    You can't blame them, dealing with a generation of porn addicts. Before the web came along even a 2 had a good shot at landing a man. So I have some sympathy for the porn widows.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    It's the victim mentality. Victim = hero. eg the Heroes of Virginia Tech, the Heroes of 9/11, etc. Note that the biggest example of 9/11 heroism, the passengers of Flight 93, has basically been swept under the rug at this point officially as it doesn't fit the government = savior narrative.

  • Irish||

    COMMENTS!

    EtherBreatherUOl' Auntie Em61L
    True. But the best satirists (Colbert, etc) know their audience, and ensure that it's interpreted correctly. Yesterday 5:12pm

    Colbert. The best satirists.

    Yeah, he's a regular Jonathan Swift.

    CrunchyConUDzsesszika561L
    Are you also creeped out by people going to Disney for their HONEYMOONS! (No, they're not taking kids with them.)

    It's just too bizarre. On the one had, we are sexualizing children at earlier and earlier ages. And then, simultaneously, we are infantilizing healthy, adult (married!) sexuality. Just yuck.

    This woman is upset that we're infantilizing adult relationships. Do you think she takes this to its logical conclusion and realizes that it's also infantilizing when women hold out their hands to Papa Government for free birth control pills?

    Given that she's posting on Jezebel, I am not optimistic.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    First comment is a True Feminist Classic. I'm surprised Marcotte hasn't retweeted it.

    That second comment is spot-on, but how would it not equally apply to Jezebel -- whose self-proclaimed mission is to dumb down academic feminism and transmit this dumbed-down feminism through Cosmo-style pop culture coverage?

    This is a site which does, after all, routinely run Ryan Gosling comics where Gosling explains feminist ideas to his co-stars. I couldn't think up something that patronizing on even my most evil patriarchal day.

  • Irish||

    The second comment is actually exactly my opinion of people who would get married at Disney World. It's just pretty ludicrous for anyone on a Gawker site to whine about infantilization when the entire reason Gawker exists is to render every subject as infantile as possible by injecting poorly thought out left-wing groupthink.

    If you want to have an intellectual and adult conversation about feminism or gender roles, assuming such a conversation is even possible anymore, then Jezebel is clearly not the place to try and have it.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    To the article's point, I don't see why there need be a contradiction between portraying a Disney princess/heroine as physically and aesthetically appealing and also brave, bold, caring, and able to effect change.

    Certainly Disney has in recent years portrayed more and more active, rather than passive, female heroes. It's not the 1940s and 50s anymore.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    The entire notion of physical "appeal" is itself culturally constructed, and therefore invalid. Any recognition or (horrors) support for physical appeal only further perpetuates the norms of a patriarchy-driven culture, thus depriving us of bla bippity boo bippo.

  • LynchPin1477||

    Show us your bippity boo bippos!

  • Warrren||

    But not your hippo hippie hips!

  • GILMORE||

    ""What should little girls be looking at in children's movies?""

    Andrea Dworkin

  • ||

    I showed this to my wife after I saw it earlier today. She asked why they all had to be made so pretty when they were "disneyfied". Isn't that sexist?
    Also, WTF has Hillary Clinton done for women? Been married to a powerful man? Carpetbagged her way into the senate? Failed at being Secretary of State?

  • cavalier973||

    Romney has a list of candidates to support in 2016. Guess who's not on the list?

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Hitler?

  • Warrren||

    Man, you love that guy.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    He could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon, two coats!

  • cavalier973||

    "Adolf Hitler was rejected as a young man on his application to art school. One thing led to another...and the United States dropped two atomic bombs on the sovereign nation of Japan."

    ~Brian Regan.

  • Hyperion||

    Well, we should definitely take the advice of the guy who just lost to a guy who says things like 'you didn't build that business'.

    Nice list there, Romney, you statist asshat, Rubio, Ryan, Jeb Bush? Christie?

    Sounds like he's a sore loser and wants to make sure the next guy doesn't win either. Or if the GOP does win, he want's to insure that a statist remains in the white house.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Ron Paul lost (much bigger) to Romney. I guess that means we shouldn't pay attention to what he says either.

    Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, etc have indirectly lost to BO several times already in DC power struggles.

  • cavalier973||

    Speaking of Rand Paul; he's such a show off.

  • Hyperion||

    Yes, but Obama gave free healthcare to everyone!

    So who's the true savior, huh? Huh, who, tell us, teabagger!

  • cavalier973||

    Better a "teabagger" than a "teabagee", I guess.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, etc have indirectly lost to BO several times already in DC power struggles.

    Lies.

    ITT, Tulpa can't accept that his love lost to Obama, just like everyone said he would.

    Come on Tulpa, tell us how the polls are really rigged and Romney can totally take Pennsylvania. Show off how attached to reality you are.

  • Pathogen||

    Soo... Rand Paul spent all summer blinding the poor, whilst Obama spent all summer saving Syria from Al- Qaeda Iran, from Africa... and the golf course?... Obama is awesome!

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    How sad to see Cyto reduced to babbling gibberish. I guess the debt ceiling isn't suspended and Obamacare has been defunded? And the NDAA hasn't been passed? And the Patriot Act hasn't been renewed? Or do Rand Paul and company support those things after all? He's about to get slapped around on the Yellen confirmation too.

    Against my better judgement I'll get drawn into past disputes.... Romney was in a dead heat with BO in the polling averages in PA in early October 2012. By election day that had shifted back to favor BO.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    How sad to see Cyto reduced to babbling gibberish. I guess the debt ceiling isn't suspended and Obamacare has been defunded? And the NDAA hasn't been passed? And the Patriot Act hasn't been renewed? Or do Rand Paul and company support those things after all? He's about to get slapped around on the Yellen confirmation too.

    Against my better judgement I'll get drawn into past disputes.... Romney was in a dead heat with BO in the polling averages in PA in early October 2012. By election day that had shifted back to favor BO.

  • Cytotoxic||

    No Tulpa that's just you being obtuse and stupid and having no actual understanding of politics.

    Rand made the NDAA and spying a cause celebre. It was meant to draw public attention to himself and the issue. It worked.

    Cruz forced the GOP to justify its existence with the strategically sagacious partial shutdown that forced the Dems to commit themselves to Obamacare just before its epic fail of a roll out.

    You see Tulpa, Rand and Cruz are posturing, with some success. Romney on the other hand ran against the worst incumbent in decades and flopped like everyone with a brain could predict. You didn't predict it because you're kinda dumb.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Jesus fuck! Has Tulpa been trolling all day? I quit around 11 AM cause I couldn't stand his shit anymore.

    This is White Indian proportion trolling.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    You're in total delusion on the shutdown and on the spying stuff. Snowden is the celebrity of the anti-NSA folks, not Paul. The shutdown had no effect on Dems ownership of BO-Care -- are you kidding me? My prediction is that they'll successfully blame the GOP for any problems that arise, but even if they don't it's tough to see how the shutdown made it any harder. If anything it made it easier since the rollout occurred during the shutdown, so they have an easy way to claim sabotage.

    Tell me which Republican candidate could have done better against BO in 2012. I'll even spot you perfect 20/20 hindsight in making your decision. Keep in mind, of course, that Dem turnout was bonkers high and Romney won independents comfortably, so you're going to have to overcome that somehow.

    I'll admit to Rick Perry as a possibility due to his relative dovishness on immigration, though he was an awful debater and had a few weaknesses Romney lacked. It's likely a wash.

    Your turn.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Tell me which Republican candidate could have done better against BO in 2012.

    ANY ONE OF THEM.

    Your first paragraph shorter: blah blah blah specious bullshit blah blah blah

    Again, you're not that bright. The Dems would find excuses anyway. Now they own it. If you don't want to believe that because you are a whiny-ass concern troll then fine. Maybe you could make your own blog?

    This is White Indian proportion trolling.

    I had thought he would've gotten over the loss of his great love, Mitt Romney, but instead it's burning through his mind, leaving behind only a dog's breakfast. I actually imagine Tulpa at his computer surrounded by empty pizza boxes and other filth with a bulletin covered in Romney-related polling and Reason articles that 'betrayed' him. He waits for any opportunity to lash out at those he thinks took away his great hope and love: his President Romney.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    ANY ONE OF THEM.

    Such as?

  • Cytotoxic||

    Cain and Hunstman.

  • Irish||

    ...Cain? Cain would have gotten beat far worse than Romney did.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Cain was pretty emptyheaded and media unsavvy once you got beyond his 999 plan or whatever it was. Don't expect any effect on black turnout as he'd be successfully portrayed as an Uncle T. And the same fundie dolts in NC/VA/FL who sat on their hands and refused to vote for a Mormon would sit on their hands and refuse to vote for a black guy, too.

    Huntsman I'm not sure about; he still has Romney's Mormon problem, and had the charisma of a hollowed out watermellon. He's no friend of libertarianism either, even less so than Romney.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Not to mention Cain's liabilities in the War on Women. No binder quotes necessary.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    I don't think anyone who was actually running in the GOP could have done better than MR or Rick Perry, and those two would have been about equal. Among people who weren't running, I think Mike Huckabee could have really made BO sweat.

  • Cytotoxic||

    You'll clearly believe whatever you want to believe. Anything to protect the love of your life, Saint Romney.

    Again: any one of them would have been better. Romney was so bad it was almost transcendent. McCain was better, so it's really not debatable.

    the same fundie dolts in NC/VA/FL who sat on their hands and refused to vote for a Mormon

    Citation?

  • General Butt Naked||

    Shouldn't they be asking Romney questions in an area in which he's an expert? What it's like to be an effective punching bag for Obama, for instance.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    Or how to pass health reform legislation that sucks balls.

    Oh, wait, I guess we have two guys with expertise on that subject...

  • General Butt Naked||

    Hey, at least Romney got an assault weapons ban. Something that Dear Leader, in all his magnificence, couldn't accomplish.

    All Hail Dear Leader!

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Too bad Ron Paul didn't get the nomination. The BO campaign may have suffered choice paralysis from all the avenues of attack that were available to them.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Shorter Tulpa: boo-hoo hoo you mean libertarians took away my President Romney. LEAVE ROMNEY ALONE

  • Pathogen||

    " Guess who's not on the list?"

    Romney?

  • cavalier973||

    The correct answer was Lou Reed.

    *glares*

  • cavalier973||

    You know, whenever I start to think "Maybe Romney wouldn't have been so bad", he goes and proves that my initial distrust of him was well-founded.

  • General Butt Naked||

    “But my own plan was to say to each state, ‘You've got a requirement to move to a point where all your people are insured, and where you cover preexisting conditions," Romney said.

    Romney also said: “I had a very conservative platform. And that kind of conservative platform I think is the foundation of any successful campaign in 2016.”

    Gawd, what a shitstain motherfucker. It's a wonder that the media was able to push the Romney=Anarchist narrative, and even more a wonder that Romney found as many retards to vote for him as the "conservative" choice as he did.

  • Pathogen||

    "..and even more a wonder that Romney found as many retards to vote for him as the "conservative" choice as he did Obama fought hard, and barely scraped by this douche nozzle, with a whopping ~2.5% of the popular vote."

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Romney said he's not going to disqualify anybody.

    That's big of him.

    But he made clear that he had given the names of those he thought were "the most effective in becoming elected."

    Because clearly, no one knows how to win elections the MItt does.

  • ||

    Radley Balko on Facebook:

    Favorite new criticism of libertarians: We're only critical of police because law enforcement careers offer women and minorities a path to upward social mobility.
    Who actually made this criticism?
  • ||

    Damnmit squirrelz! The second part:

    Who actually made this criticism? A student told me yesterday that one of his professors had made it at a conference, apparently to a warm reception from other faculty. But I've seen variations of the argument in other places.
  • Pathogen||

    " because law enforcement careers offer women and minorities a path to upward social mobility"

    Yeah... just like the military.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    Police brutality curbed; women, minorities hardest hit.

  • Hyperion||

    Puppycide outlawed. Kittens hardest hit!

  • Warrren||

    Niiiiice.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    OK, that's a new one. The delusion and gullibility of the left never ceases to amaze me.

  • Sevo||

    "The delusion and gullibility of the left never ceases to amaze me."

    Bush made O'care suck!

  • Warrren||

    Oh lordy lordy lordy I hope this is an actual new thing.

  • Irish||

    Favorite new criticism of libertarians: We're only critical of police because law enforcement careers offer women and minorities a path to upward social mobility.

    Uh...who do they think are the primary victims of police brutality?

  • Hyperion||

    You just don't get it because you're a libertarian and incapable of feeling empathy.

    See, when it's a minority or woman shooting their pets, tazing their granny, or shooting down their son in cold blood, they feel better about it. That's what's important.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Obviously it's filtered thru Balko who's totally unsympathetic to the attitude, but I wonder what the meaning behind it is. Are they claiming that LEO positions don't offer white males upward mobility? (totally false) Or are they claiming that LEO positions are the only respectable ones available to women (again totally false) or minorities (closer to the truth, but largely the fault of urban leftism choking other opportunities).

  • General Butt Naked||

    I linked to an article on a socialist website a few months ago that made the same case for the post office.

    It basically said that evil teabaggers wanted to off the post office, which is incidentally a hugely profitable and efficient enterprise, for the purpose of putting minorities out of work.

  • SIV||

    I've pointed this out before. Libertarianism is inherently racist. Middle class minorities are disproportionately employed by the PubSec. Libertarians want to evict minorities en masse from the middle class.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    If you had a shitty inner-city public school education, you wouldn't be able to get a decent job outside government either.

  • Irish||

    Which is primarily a result of the total lack of job opportunities in the inner cities. That lack of job opportunities is the result of Democrat policy that libertarians would repeal.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    First you have to win elections or ally with those who do.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    Hey, speaking of drugs, guess which of Obama's political bedmates helped make force the cancellation of existing insurance plans:

    "in politics, never assume rules are written simply with the public good in mind. Almost always, the rules ended up how they ended up because special interests with insider access were able to tweak them. So it is with the coverage that Obamacare mandates.

    "HHS's first proposed rule on prescription drug coverage required insurers to cover at least one drug in every class of drug — in short, one drug for cholesterol, one drug for epilepsy, etc. Drugmakers wanted more. Led by the lobby group Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, the industry argued that HHS should require all insurers to not only cover one drug per class, but also to match the benchmark plan in their state.

    "And Big Pharma won. HHS’s final rule, issued in late November 2012, required all plans to cover “the greater of” one drug per class or whatever the state’s benchmark plan covers.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    "So if your insurance plan met state mandates and covered one or more drug per class, it still might be illegal if it didn’t cover as much as the “benchmark” insurance plan. PhRMA and its member companies like Eli Lilly and Pfizer care about this in part because more bare-bones prescription drug plans may cover only generic drugs and not the more costly name brand drugs covered by the benchmark plans.

    "The more comprehensive the drug coverage, the more expensive the premiums — thus the cancellation of many low-premium plans.

    "...Most notoriously, HHS required all employer-sponsored health insurance to cover 100 percent of the cost of all prescription birth control.

    "If you wanted to buy insurance with basic drug coverage or a plan that didn’t cover contraception, you’re out of luck. You have to pay for it anyway — to the benefit of Big Pharma.

    "...So the more-comprehensive, more-expensive insurance Obama is forcing you to buy may or may not be better for you. But it's certainly better for the drugmakers."

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/.....le/2538357

  • Pathogen||

    Are they suggesting cronyism might of clouded dear leader's judgment?

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    It seems likely that Dear Leader has not the faintest clue of what's going on around him, and no particular desire to obtain one, so his judgement is fairly irrelevant. As long as he can play golf and take nice vacations and feel important giving speeches, that's all he gives a damn about.

  • Pathogen||

    It's funny 'cause it's true... No, actually.. it's kinda sad...

  • Warrren||

    It's the law to cover at least one link there, Aborto-Lad.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    Uh, what?

  • Warrren||

    HA! Hoist on my own peTARD.

  • Hyperion||

    Big Pharma will always win until we get single payer. But once we have single payer, the people will win and the entire earth will be covered with flowers and lions and lambs will lie down to each other, and free ponies for all.

  • Warrren||

    It's the Compassionist Manifesto!

  • Hyperion||

    That was more like the type-o manifesto...

  • Pathogen||

    I.. want.. to believe..

  • Warrren||

    Believe what you want, but when the ponies are handed out, I get Rainbow Dash!

    Mile-High Bestiality Club, here I come!

  • Hyperion||

    Obama promised that if you like fucking your pony, you can keep him!

  • Warrren||

    Goddammit.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    Catherine the Great was crushed when this promise turned out to be just like Obama's other guarantees.

  • Warrren||

    And R-Dash is a girl, what you think I'm some sort of pervert?

  • Cytotoxic||

    Dammit I laughed.

  • Sevo||

    Eduard van Haalen|11.3.13 @ 8:53PM|#
    "Hey, speaking of drugs, guess which of Obama's political bedmates helped make force the cancellation of existing insurance plans:..."

    I'll bet they also made him lie about it.

  • Hyperion||

    That's ridiculous. The Rethuglicans are the ones who made him lie about it.

  • Sevo||

    Doggone it! I always mix them up!
    Wait! Wasn't it Bush?

  • Irish||

  • General Butt Naked||

    Bullet cancer....

    Bullet cancer.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    Big Pharma pull a million strings
    Bit Pharma hold the prize
    Big Pharma weave a mighty web
    Big Pharma draw the flies

  • SOS||

    God I love this newspaper!
    The downfall, will be the excessive taxes, of course, & mom & pop businesses going flop, but at least everyone will have the opportunity/choice to giggle as they fork it over.

  • Sevo||

    "Some of the world's top climate scientists say wind and solar energy won't be enough to head off extreme global warming, and they're asking environmentalists to support the development of safer nuclear power as one way to cut fossil fuel pollution."
    http://www.sfgate.com/business.....950906.php
    Since the globe hasn't been warming for the last 15 years (and counting), I'm not sure this is gonna spin a lot of propellers, but they'll have to admit it hasn't to duck the issue.
    Unless BOOOOOOOOOSH!

  • Sevo||

    BTW, it looks like Houston can't believe they have a lead and they're blowing it left and right!
    Go on 4th instead of a putt FG, and then turn it over mid-field on a missed long attempt.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Virginia mother allows son to dress as a Klansman for Halloween

    A reporter from WHSV asked the little Jackson why he decided to wear the controversial costume but it was clear from his answer that he did not know the historical signifiance of the outfit or how offensive the clothing can be.

    His mother didn't appear to know any better, justifying her actions by pointing the blame squarely in her sons' direction.
    'I did tell him that if you do it, you know there's going to be people talking about you. There's going to be people saying bad things about you when you do wear it,' she advised.

    Neighbors say they were shocked when they saw Jackson Black's costume and that his mother should bare full responsibility.
    [...]
    When asked where he learned of the costume, Jackson said he saw it in the movie Fried Green Tomatoes.
    Ms Brown sees nothing wrong with the costume for one night a year and he son appears to happy also despite the controversy she's stirring up.
    She reaffirmed her position by revealing the Klu Klux Klan still exists in Craigsville, Virgnia.
    'It's suppose to be white with white. Black with black. Man with woman and all of that. That's what the KKK stands for. The KKK every year, raises money to donate to the St. Jude's,' she protested.

  • Warrren||

    If he's rejected by the community it's his cross to burn.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    I don't think this mother is clear on the concept of dressing up as something scary. If the KKK is a social club which raises funds for childrens' hospitals, what's the point?

    If the intent was to be scary/offensive, I could understand, but if the intent was to promote a pro-Klan message, screw them.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    "25 most offensive Halloween Costumes on Instagram"

    (SLIDESHOW)

    http://www.complex.com/pop-cul.....the-finger

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    (non-slideshow)

    Martin and Zimmerman:

    http://www.diversityinc.com/ne.....tume-ever/

  • Eduard van Haalen||

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    Blood-spattered Jacqueline Kennedy:

    http://www.complex.com/pop-cul.....ne-kennedy

  • Eduard van Haalen||

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    Scroll down for sexy Bin Laden:

    http://www.ibtimes.com/hallowe.....os-1436064

  • Eduard van Haalen||

  • Warrren||

    That's the best kind of Jacqueline Kennedy.

  • SIV||

    I want to bang her on my mega-yacht in the Aegean.

  • Almanian!||

    his mother should bare full responsibility.

    SHOW US YOUR TITS!

    What?

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    If Ken Cuccinelli is elected governor, all children will be forced to dress as Klanspersons for Halloween! And they will be forced to bear unwanted fetuses, even the boys! How you ask?

    JUST SHUT UP AND VOTE MCAULIFFE!!!!!!1!!!

  • Cytotoxic||

    NO I SUPPORT SARVIS

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    You can't even vote you filthy Canadaskin.

  • Cytotoxic||

    I STILL SUPPORT SARVIS

  • db||

    Are you suckers still tipping strippers with 5s now that you're back tonear parity with the USD?

  • Cytotoxic||

    We're just 5 cents beneath parity!

  • Irish||

    It is better that all women be made slaves to the government than that a single woman not be handed birth control pills by the state. We must take away every freedom a woman might have so that she can get $30 worth of free birth control a month.

    /Progressives

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    "Depressions and recessions—not to mention ballooning budget deficits and mounting national debt—really help make the case for limited government."

    Ha ha ha, ha ha ha, giggle giggle *gasp* ha ha ha ha *gasp* no more...I can't breathe...

  • Cytotoxic||

    Funny cause it's true? The last couple of years have been the only ones where federal outlays shrank even if only a little. The 2008 crash resulted in a lot of anti-liberty action, but the long-term consequences are clearly to reduce government. State governments are certainly headed more in the right direction than they were.

  • Irish||

    Funny cause it's true? The last couple of years have been the only ones where federal outlays shrank even if only a little

    Federal outlays decreased slightly while at the same time the United States government vastly increased its hold over 18% of the United States economy. The massive entitlements contained therein, plus the already existing entitlements, are virtually impossible to repeal because the Dems will have none of it and their supporters have buried their heads in the sand.

    Small decreases due to discretionary spending cuts are irrelevant in the long term because the drivers of debt are intact and currently make up almost 60% of total government spending. That aspect is only going to get worse and it's not being addressed.

  • Cytotoxic||

    I think Ocare was the by product of 'the decadent times' brought to you by easy money.

  • JidaKida||

    Sounds like some serious business dude.

    www.PrivacyRoad.tk

  • Almanian!||

    I hope Gary Kubiak's OK. Shit - that must have been scary.

    Also - "Boardwalk Empire". FUCK! The best cast - superb. Only three episodes to go! I hope I don't pull a Kubiak and stroke out....

    OK, I didn't mean that. I don't know if he had a stroke, a heart attack, or what.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    NO SPOILERS!

    But yeah, this season has been its best since season 1. Pretty much that whole cast deserves Emmy nominations.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    40 foot statue of Jesus erected in war-torn Syria

    In the midst of a conflict rife with sectarianism, a giant bronze statue of Jesus has gone up on a Syrian mountain, apparently under cover of a truce among three factions in the country’s civil war.

    Jesus stands, arms outstretched, on the Cherubim mountain, overlooking a route pilgrims took from Constantinople to Jerusalem in ancient times. The statue is 12.3 meters (40 feet) tall and stands on a base that brings its height to 32 meters (105 feet), organizers of the project estimate.

    That the statue made it to Syria and went up without incident on Oct. 14 is remarkable. The project took eight years and was set back by the civil war that followed the March 2011 uprising against President Bashar Assad.

    Christians and other minorities are all targets in the conflict, and the statue’s safety is by no means guaranteed. It stands among villages where some fighters, linked to al-Qaida, have little sympathy for Christians.

    So why put up a giant statue of Christ in the midst of such setbacks and so much danger?

    Because “Jesus would have done it,” organizer Samir al-Ghadban quoted a Christian church leader as telling him.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Now I don't think Jesus would have put up a giant statue of himself, but I admire their efforts.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    That's the story I avoided posting to comply with the weekend topic ban, jerk.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    There's a weekend topic ban?

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Jesus was circumcised I bet.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    And the region of Galilee was widely known for its fisherman and deep dish pizza.

  • db||

    Lake Michigan is basically the Sea of Galilee of the Midwest...

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    I'm not sure -- he let that old whore rub expensive oil into his feet with her hair, and told Judas to pipe down about selling the oil for the poor.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    "In the midst of a conflict rife with sectarianism"

    Yeah, let's have a truce - the Islamists should stop killing the Christians, and the Christians should stop putting up statues. Once the extremists on both sides stop, then we'll have peace.

  • Sevo||

    Eduard van Haalen|11.3.13 @ 10:44PM|#
    "In the midst of a conflict rife with sectarianism"
    Yeah, let's have a truce - the Islamists should stop killing the Christians, and the Christians should stop putting up statues. Once the extremists on both sides stop, then we'll have peace."

    If they both learned reality, it'd be easier.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Because atheists never fight stupid wars or commit atrocities?

  • William of Purple||

    Like the reality of Francis Collins?

  • Warrren||

    Is it hollow so someone could climb inside it and use it as an artillery spotting post?

  • verlighsoncno1975||

    Wow, what a quality it is! For the reason that mostly YouTube videos have no nice feature, except this is in fact a good quality video.

    http://tacosandtequilalv.com/nfljerseys/?id=601

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    fascinating.
    everyone should watch this video.

  • Warrren||

    I'll pass.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

  • ||

    COPYRIGHT (C) 2023 NIKE CLOTHING ONLINE

    A bot from the future!

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    iTunes shuffle q:
    what algorithm does it use?
    Scenario:

    400 songs, random selection.
    15 end up as Beatles songs.

    Every 3rd song chosen is Beatles.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Apparently the algorithm selects for crappy overrated bands too many people love for no good reason.

  • db||

    There is a twisted intersection of iOS cultists, Volkswagen cultists, and Beatles cultists.

  • Cytotoxic||

    If only you included artisanal mayonnaise it would be The Sum of All Evil.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Insufficient information. I believe it takes into account the rating and play frequency of the songs. Have you been putting Yellow Submarine on repeat?

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    uh, yes?

  • SIV||

    Mine plays Jimmy Rogers every 3 or 4 songs but NEVER plays the Misfits.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Just finished BSG.

    Brought to you by the Cleveland Browns.

    Took me a month to get through the entire series...for that!

    Fuck me!

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    But Starbuck was an angel! And 'All Along the Watchtower', it was profound and junk!

    Despite how badly it crashed in the last quarter of season 4, it was still overall a pretty great show.

    I do recommend the prequel series Caprica for a great show that could have been.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    SPOILER ALERT

    Herpity derpity doo

    Let's all give up space faring technology and go live like savages. Some sort of progtard dystopian dream ending.

    *barf*

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Yeah that was just a horrible idea that made zero sense.

    Keep the mining ships, the Raptors, and Vipers and build a new civilization.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Really? I heard Caprica was trash but maybe I heard wrong. What's good about it?

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    I liked it. For starters, great casting with Eric Stoltz, Esai Morales, and 'Deadwood's Paula Malcolmson. The young actors were pretty good as well.

    The story itself is pretty dark and ambitious and deals with the familiar BSG theme of religious fanaticism, but also the truth of virtual reality and the need for death.

    The reason it got cancelled was because the first half of season 1 moved slowly to develop its characters and storylines and so they lost a large chunk of the audience during its hiatus.

  • ||

    It had its weak points but it was good.

    Stylistically, it is a lot different than BSG, which is more a matter of taste than good or bad.

    Like ASM said, it was cast well. I would add Sasha Roiz to the list.

    I thought the "V-World" plotline was a bit contrived, though.

  • ||

    I would add Sasha Roiz to the list.

    I bet you would.

    Roiz becoming a more central character on Grimm has been one of the best things that's happened to that show.

  • Warrren||

    Yup. I gave up at the spot where those folks discovered they were all Cylons.

    One of the stupidest twists in the history of television.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    I quit the first time around when Starbuck started whining about her baby and how much her pussy hurt.

    But my best friend AND my wife insisted I see it through to the end. So I started over from the beginning. Overall, it was pretty good. The ending was god-awful.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Each season had its moments. Season 1 was great overall. Season 2 had the terrific Pegasus story arc. Season 3 had the trial of Gaius Baltar and the nebula battle. And season 4 had the discovery of original Earth and the mutiny.

  • Cytotoxic||

    I thought the ending with Gaeta executing Roselin and Adama was amazing! Incredible balls to have him enslave the allied Cylons and use them to destroy the rest of them with that virus they tried transmitting in the first or second season. Then they restarted the colonies from Base Camp Kobol.

    *Tries to imagine it into truth; sobs upon failing*

  • Winston||

    I keep thinking that Nick Gillespie reminds of Ernst Thalmann circa 1932.

  • Irish||

    The History Channel is explaining to me how I am going to be killed by a gigantic, nationwide earthquake that was prophesied by the Hopi Indians.

    It's on the History Channel so it must be true.

  • Winston||

    What happened to the History Channel? All the WWII stock footage was used up?

  • Irish||

    They still use WWII stock footage. They just do it after explaining how Hitler's rise was predicted by Nostradomus.

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    and helped by alien bigfoot ghosts.

  • db||

    HC used to be good for nurvure-ing out during holiday family get-togethers when others were having political arguments. Now it is more groan-worthy than a progtarded mother-in-law loaded up on eggnogg and self-righteousness.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    And, Ancient Aliens.

  • Cytotoxic||

    The History Channel has become so weird and stupid it's like self-parody.

  • db||

    It's nearly inevitable that they'll change the name to "Hystery" a la SyFy.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Is there a Herstory channel yet?

  • SIV||

    Don't give THEM! any ideas.

  • juris imprudent||

    Home Shopping Network?

  • juris imprudent||

    Lifetime AND Lifetime Real Women

  • juris imprudent||

    Cooking Channel

  • juris imprudent||

    SoapNet

  • juris imprudent||

    Oprah Winfrey Network

  • juris imprudent||

    Hallmark Channel

  • juris imprudent||

    And I haven't made up a single one. All available on TWC.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    I'm hoping for a How to Satisfy Your Husband Channel. Cooking, cleaning, sex...

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Which media corporation runs History?

  • ||

    A&E, which is co-owned by Disney and Hearst.(1)

    1. Wikipedia (retrieved 11/03/13)

  • Snark Plissken||

    Wikipedia is a tool of the corporashuns you naive fool.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    jesse, you need to go to work for Rand.

  • Generic Stranger||

    I was wondering what they were going to come up with after the Mayan calendar thing was a flop.

  • cavalier973||

    I was never interested in Grand Theft Auto, nor am I a console guy, but this Watch Dogs game looks interesting.

  • cavalier973||

  • cavalier973||

    And yet another. I like how in this one, one of the guys he passes is a "Pro-Life Lobbyist" whose job is a "Tobacco Company Executive." So he hacks his bank account. Because some people are just so evil, it's okay to steal from them, or something.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    In it, the players, controlling a character named Aiden Pearce, "have the power to control an entire city's infrastructure via powerful computers that run everything from data records to power lines." The player can gain information about anyone, via Pearce's profiler. The player can meddle with any electrical output that runs on the grid, in ways such as jamming all mobile phone reception in his immediate area, and even short out traffic lights causing a major car accident. The game also has seamless co-op.

    Another masturbatory playing-God-fantasy. Just with an Occupy theme.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Aiden?
    /hipster

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Just because he has carefully maintained stubble doesn't mean you should label him like that.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Another masturbatory playing-God-fantasy.

    And the problem is...?

  • cavalier973||

    I thought Tulpa was recommending it.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Vikings are 1-7 for the first time since 1961.
    Is anyone from 1961 even alive?

  • William of Purple||

  • Warrren||

    I tried wiping with an AR-15. Didn't work out so well.

  • Pathogen||

    I guess "The beer bottles and kitchen knives that are wiping out Australia and the U.K." would be a little underwhelming after reading that load of hysterical horseshit...

  • General Butt Naked||

    Damn, if those pearls get clutched any harder, they'll be diamonds.

  • JohnD||

    So on an article about drug use, all you clowns can talk about is football? No wonder no one takes you seriously.

  • ax123man||

    "we’ve finally realized that prohibition exacerbates all the ills it’s supposed to prevent"
    I'm certain I could find similar statements after the 21st amendment passed.

  • eyeroller||

    Never again will a pol gain votes by attacking pot legalization.

    That's obviously not true in crimson Republican districts. (Unfortunately.)

  • Weygand||

    Well given the enviro/green/ELF disdain of marijuana growers, it isn't just the stereotyped Rs from whom points can be milked.

    Further, I know a few Republicans who smoke pot. We just don't make it our avatar or familiar

  • KarrenMahoney||

    my co-worker's sister-in-law makes hourly on the laptop. She has been out of work for 5 months but last month her payment was just working on the laptop for a few hours. pop over to this web-site........

    works23.com

  • Weygand||

    Makes hourly what?

  • Weygand||

    Does he care to place a wager on his tag line?

  • StandardWilly||

    The reason the three reasons are wrong and this video is misleading:

    1) The Harvard Study is Cherry Picked: The alleged cost savings don't take into account social costs like drugged driving, reduced worker productivity, increased usage and healthcare costs. The Harvard analysis even has a disclaimer stating that the desirability of legalization depends on many factors not discussed in the study. A more recent RAND study on the effects of legalization in California makes clear that costs to society would increase due to higher demand resulting from lower prices. The social costs would dwarf any cost savings, just as they do with alcohol and tobacco whose tax revenue is about a tenth of their social costs.

    2) The shift in public opinion doesn't change the facts of the argument and doesn't itself become a reason to legalize. Those who understand the arguments against legalization would be foolish to simply give up the fight because public opinion has shifted.

    3) The war on drugs isn't confined to the war on pot, and would continue even with pot's legalization. And it's a lie that people are incarcerated for simple possession alone; this is virtually ALWAYS accompanied by a higher crime like trafficking, or pled down from a felony. Calling the war on drugs a failure presupposes that legalization is a better choice, without the evidence to support this.

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