UPDATED: Obamacare Poster Boy Chad Henderson and His Dad Didn't Really Buy Insurance

An exclusive Reason.com interview with Bill Henderson.

Chad Henderson/FacebookChad Henderson/Facebook

UPDATED at 2.54pm ET: Scroll to end of this article for the latest development in this story. After speaking directly with Chad Henderson, The Washington Post has confirmed that he has not in fact enrolled in a health-care plan. 

Chad Henderson is the media’s poster boy for Obamacare. Reporters struggled this week to find individuals who said they had been able to enroll in one of the law’s 36 federally run health-insurance exchanges.

That changed yesterday, when they found Henderson, a 21-year-old student and part-time child-care worker who lives in Georgia and says that he successfully enrolled himself and his father Bill in insurance plans via the online exchange administered at healthcare.gov.

But in an exclusive phone interview this morning with Reason, Chad's father Bill contradicted virtually every major detail of the story the media can't get enough of. What's more, some of the details that Chad has released are also at odds with published rate schedules and how Obamacare officials say the enrollment system works.

The coverage of Chad Henderson has been massive. He was featured in The Washington Post Thursday as “the Obamacare enrollee that tons of reporters are calling.” He was also profiled in The Huffington Post as someone who “beat the glitches to sign up for Obamacare.” He was interviewed by Politico, multiple local news organizations, and, according to his Facebook feed, was asked to be part of a conference call hosted by the Department of Health and Human Services.

Chad's story was tweeted out by the official Obamacare Twitter feed. It was promoted to the media by Enroll America, a health-care activist group headed by a former White House communications staffer, as a sign of Obamacare’s success. Henderson told reporters at multiple news outlets that after a three-hour wait to sign up online, he enrolled around 3 a.m. Tuesday morning in an unsubsidized private insurance plan that would cost him about $175 a month. He also said that his father enrolled in separate coverage plan that would cost about $250 a month after factoring in the subsidies for which his father qualified on his approximately $24,000 annual income.

Chad’s decision to purchase his own, separate plan might surprise some. A monthly premium of $175 would represent about 30 percent of his pre-tax take home pay—about $583 a month on the $7,000 part-time income he claimed. And he could have chosen to be covered by his father’s plan, which, under the Affordable Care Act, would have been required to cover dependents up to the age of 26. Chad said his father encouraged him to be covered under his own plan, even though the cost was higher. "He's old school, so he wants me to take responsibility," Chad told The Huffington Post.

Henderson’s story was promoted as proof that the new health law can work for individuals. That was exactly how Chad intended it. He was a volunteer with President Obama’s campaign last year, and his LinkedIn page still lists him as an active volunteer with Organizing for Action, the former campaign organization which now advocates for the president’s legislative agenda.

He told The Washington Post that he was sharing his story because he wanted the new health law to succeed.

"I've read a few articles about how young people are very critical to the law's success," he said to The Post. "I really just wanted to do my part to help out with the entire process."

But details of Chad's story proved difficult to verify. And in a phone interview conducted this morning, Chad’s father Bill contradicted major details of Chad’s story. I reached Bill Henderson by following a series of links at Chad's Facebook page, through which I was able to speak directly to the father.

Bill Henderson told me that both he and his son were interested in getting coverage, but that he had not enrolled in any plan yet, and to his knowledge, neither had his son. He also said that when they do enroll, getting the most coverage for the least money would be the goal, and that he expects that he and his son will get coverage under the same plan.

Bill told me that Chad had been looking into plans online. “He told me that there’s different plans. And we haven’t decided which plans to enroll in yet.”

I asked him whether he and his son had talked about going on separate plans, and he told me that, “We’ll probably go on the same plan, more than likely.”

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  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Says his Father what?

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Whoops, misread that headline, never mind.

  • lilyhi||

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  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    Go Suderman! This is real journalism.

  • PapayaSF||

    Yes, indeed. Props to Suderman.

    Cripes, the rollout has actually been worse than I predicted. I thought some real people would enroll and the media would trumpet them and ignore the problems. Turns out they can't even find anyone who has actually enrolled yet, so they have have to trumpet this lying OFA plant.

    And just wait until everyone actually finds out how expensive these plans are. Ah, schadenfreude.

  • Its Amazing||

    I just want to add my story. I get paid over $87 per hour working online with Google! I work two shifts 2 hours in the day and 2 in the evening. And whats awesome is Im working from home so I get more time with my kids. Its by-far the best job I’ve had. I follow this great link http://cuttr.it/ukvczrq

  • BakedPenguin||

    Thirded. This is good work.

  • A Secret Band of Robbers||

    Still too pro-Obamacare.

  • jolieena||

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  • XM||

    Superman, I mean Spiderman, oops, I man Suderman, and Welch could word for Twitchy if Reason ever shuts down.

  • Malvolio||

    Suderman, Suderman, does whatever a Suder can...

  • JWatts||

    Awesome reporting!

    And make sure taxes are completely in order.

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    Oh, and Brace Yourselves: The Trolls Are Coming.

  • SugarFree||

    Well, he's blond and blue-eyed. At least American won't bother.

  • Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!||

    I laughed.

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    I'm thinking this post is going to get more exposure than your average reason post, which means a bunch of one-offs from HufflePo and the Kos Kiddies are going to register just to act like a pack of rabid chimps.

  • SugarFree||

    Responding seriously to a joke is a ten-yard penalty.

    And I agree, so penalty declined.

  • Drax the Destroyer||

    Act like?

  • Drax the Destroyer||

    Well...I blame the squirrels for not putting this under Neo's rabid chimp remark.

  • anon||

    No way; cognitive dissonance keeps most of the weaker retards away. That's why we're cursed with the super-retards like Shriek and Tony.

  • SweatingGin||

    Brace for shitstorm!

  • Killazontherun||

    Apologies are in order here, NK. It was Hugh Akton I was having a row with that I thought your comment on trolls was a continuation from. My real bad. All you whippersnappers look alike to me. Now, where is my Obamacare brain pills to help me remember who is who!

  • Killazontherun||

    Hey, look whose at the gate, inspecting the commentariat for splitters and those who might have a valid objection or two, it's NK everyone! Be sure to tip him on your way out, staff. Otherwise, he might try to follow you home (aren't fanbois just the creepiest?).

    Nice work there, Peter.

    In up is down world,

    A Staunch Republican Tries Obamacare ... And Discovers That It's Actually Pretty Awesome

    http://www.businessinsider.com.....re-2013-10

    Sy Mukherjee of ThinkProgress caught up with Butch Matthews, a 61-year old former small business owner from Little Rock, Arkansas. Matthews, a diehard Republican, was skeptical of Obamacare. But the new law has already allowed him to buy insurance that is both much better, and much cheaper, than the astronomically expensive pre-Obamacare plan he was clinging to from Blue Cross Blue Shield.

    Hey, some baby boomer with a trophy wife half his age gets a subsidy to insert a pig valve in his Viagra wrecked heart paid for by a kid working in the service industry who wont have money left over to even pay for a blowjob. America 21 Century, turning a generation of males into Omegas so the Woodstock generation can pretend they are thirty again.

  • Killazontherun||

    Weird, gave a too many words error, on first attempt. So I cut the lede, and posted the rest below.

  • Hollywood||

    What's the over-under on how long until the administration calls in ACORN to sign up dead people?

  • anon||

    I don't know; they'd have to get the websites working first.

  • PapayaSF||

    Won't work. Contrary to much popular belief, this isn't "free" health insurance. I doubt if ACORN will be writing checks for dead people.

  • UnCivilServant||

    But their incomes at $0, surely they qualify for subsudies!

  • ||

    But their incomes at $0

    The death tax will do that to you.

  • Enough About Palin||

    HEY-YO!

  • Hollywood||

    You're right, it's quite the challenge, I guess that's why they've resorted to outright lying, as in the case of blondie here.

  • Marshall Gill||

    Lying shit-stain is a much better descriptor than blondie.

  • OneOut||

    I'll take the unders for $100.


    http://dailycaller.com/2013/10.....-kentucky/

  • Pro Libertate||

    "But I was going into Tosche Station to pick up some power converters!"

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    "Enrollment time is when I need you most. This year we'll save enough on Obamacare that I'll be able to hire some more hands and then you can go to the academy next year."

  • cavalier973||

    Ha! That's clever

  • Pro Libertate||

    "Yeah, that's what you said last year when Mitt and Paul left."

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    "Chad's just not a libertarian, Bill. He's got too much of Obama in him."

  • Pro Libertate||

    "That's what I'm afraid of."

  • Loki||

    He's got too much of Obama in him

    Literally.

  • Jose Chung||

    Must... scrub... image... from... brain!

  • Ketogenic Paleo||

    Homophobe teathuglican!

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    Ketogenic = Brain dead Blowbama d*ck sucking Libtard DOUCHEB*G. Now go back to your one-handed "alone time" with your Jokebama poster and F*CK OFF, you DUMBocrat POS...

  • cavalier973||

    "Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough," *hands over Obamacare policy* "but your Republican uncle wouldn't allow it."

  • Hugh Akston||

    "It's your father's ObamaCare policy. An elegant healthcare policy for a more civilized age."

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    PRE-ObamaCare policy would have been more fitting and amusing...

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Chad: Obamacare?

    Biden: Obamacare is what gives an American his power. It's an insurance field financed by all tax paying things. It's savings surrounds us and penetrates us and binds America together.

  • anon||

    It's savings surrounds us and anally penetrates us and binds America together.

    ftfy

  • cavalier973||

    That's far too coherent a statement for Biden.

  • ||

    Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've
    seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me
    believe there's one healthcare solution for everything. There's no mystical derp field that controls my destiny.

  • Gbob||

    Hokey politics and socialized medicine are no match for a good job at your side, kid.

  • cavalier973||

    "You can waste time with your friends when your chores are done."

  • Loki||

    "I felt a great disturbance in the internet, as if millions of people attempted to enroll in Obamacare and were unable to because of glitches. I fear something terrible has happened."

  • Lady Bertrum||

    "Help us, Obi-wan-Obama. You're our only hope!"

  • Lady Bertrum||

    Or

    "Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!"

    Wrong movie?

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    "Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!"

    Whoa, whoa, that's RAAAAACIST!

  • cavalier973||

    Double entendres in Star Wars

    "We're starting for the target shaft now."

    "Luke! At that speed, will you be able to pull out in time?"

    "She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid."

    "Get in there, you big furry oaf! I don't care what you smell!"

    "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought."

    "Great, kid. Don't get cocky."

    "Evacuate? In our moment of triumph?"

    "Sorry about the mess."

    "I used to bullseye womprats in our T-16 back home..."

    "Look at the size of that thing!"

  • Loki||

    "Curse my metal body, I wasn't fast enough!"

    "Get on top of it!"
    "I'm trying!"

  • DrZaius||

    You rang?

  • C. Anacreon||

    I hate every ape I see,
    From Chimpan A
    To Chimpan Z
    You'll never make a monkey out of me.

    Oops, I was wrong,
    It was Earth, all along.
    Well you finally made a monkey out of me!
    I love you, Dr. Zaius!

  • ||

    Rock me Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius. Dr. Zaius. Ohhoo Dr. Zaius!

  • General Butt Naked||

    He looks like the mysterious, secret gay baby that Clay Aiken and the Cobra Kai kid had.

  • ||

    He definitely looks like he would have to sweep the leg...

  • burserker||

    he's a creampuff Johnny!

  • Paul.||

    It was promoted to the media by Enroll America, a health-care activist group headed by a former White House communications staffer, as a sign of Obamacare’s success

    So, wait, the media reported as fact something that Enroll America faxed them in the dead of night?

  • Bardas Phocas||

    That's how Journalism (with capital J (that rymes with P)) works in Obama's America.

  • PapayaSF||

    A.k.a. "presstitutes."

  • Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!||

    Jurnolistm

  • Root Boy||

    Dance, poster boy, dance!

  • Hollywood||

    Only 30% of his pre-tax take home pay? What a deal! Thanks Kathleen!

  • anon||

    One person successfully signs up for Obamacare and it's a national news story?

    Hundreds of millions willingly enroll every year in some health insurance program or another without any problems whatsoever and it's not a news story?

    What the fuck has happened to our world?

  • John||

    They are pretty desperate.

  • ||

    Uh, rabid partisanship, the government, and the ability of the internet to allow abject morons to get together and reinforce each other's stupidity to the point of mass delusion? Like us here, pretending that we're not fucked.

  • anon||

    Like us here, pretending that we're not fucked.

    I ventured into the depths of hell that is the DailyKOS comments section last night.

    I have no such delusions.

  • Tonio||

    How is it that you're still sane enough to post coherently?

  • Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!||

    He wore an Elder Sign around his neck, as protection.

  • anon||

    I actually did contemplate suicide, but said "nah fuck it, and fuck them. I'm just going to continue existing to piss every last one of those motherfuckers off."

  • Bardas Phocas||

    See ya in the camps.

  • anon||

    Doubt they'll get me there without killing me first.

  • Enough About Palin||

    Great book title.

  • Pro Libertate||

    At least we're able to spout our libertarian views here without being monitored by a government agency.

  • anon||

    At least we're able to spout our libertarian views here without being monitored by a government agency.

    Ok, that was pretty good.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Or treated differently by the tax collector because of our views.

  • anon||

    Or treated differently by the tax collector because of our views.

    Well, that's just to protect us from the teathuglicans.

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    Anal - F*CK OFF, you brain dead Blowbama d*ck sucking doucheb*g POS.

  • JWatts||

    At least we're able to spout our libertarian views here without being monitored by a government agency.

    Well, that's probably pretty correct. There's little chance at this point we're being monitored by just one government agency. It wouldn't surprise me at this point to find out that Sebelius has her own team monitoring any negative reports on Obamacare 24/7.

  • Loki||

    Like us here, pretending that we're not fucked.

    Most of us know we're fucked, we're just in it for the lulz now. Also, lots of booze helps us cope.

  • ||

    Do all of you have to go on the exchange to pick a plan? Or is if for people who can't get one or are for people who are unhappy with their own plan? If you're happy with yours will Obama leave you alone? Trying to get a sense here.

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    You have to demonstrate you were on a qualifying plan when you file your taxes. So, if you have it through your work, you're ostensibly good to go. This is for people who don't have it through their employers or some other source.

  • ||

    Ah. Thanks.

  • Pelosi's Accommodator||

    It's not that Obamacare registration has been a failure. It's that it's appeal has become more selective.

  • Pelosi's Accommodator||

    its appeal

  • Invisible Finger||

    And apparently mostly young boys.

  • Paul.||

    But details of Chad's story proved difficult to verify. And in a phone interview conducted this morning, Chad’s father Bill contradicted major details of Chad’s story

    So... how long before Chad's father has to give up his Rush Limbaugh hats in a tear-filled compromise?

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    WIN

  • PapayaSF||

    +1

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    This is pathetic. Either the kid is such an Obama worshipping cocksucker that he fabricated this entire story; or it is domestic propaganda perpetrated by the corrupt administration.

    Thanks Suderman for following up on this. Hope it gets some traction in the MSM. Ahhh, who am I kidding. Still, kudos to Suderman.

  • anon||

    This is pathetic. Either the kid is such an Obama worshipping cocksucker that he fabricated this entire story; or it is domestic propaganda perpetrated by the corrupt administration.

    You think to small. It can be both.

  • anon||

    too small, damnit!

  • John||

    His ten seconds of fame are up. They just needed a talking point for the day. He can get cancer and die for all they care now.

  • anon||

    And hopefully, he will.

  • Bill Dalasio||

    Yup.

    Lesson from the Clintons. Dead propaganda tools can't get caught.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    This is pathetic. Either the kid is such an Obama worshipping cocksucker that he fabricated this entire story; or it is domestic propaganda perpetrated by the corrupt administration.

    Let's hope this doesn't go the way of Pavlik Morozov.

  • ||

    Yeah, I'm going to put on my Karnak hat here and predict a narrative-conforming pack of lies. Maybe I'm wrong, because I've been exposed to way too many "shit that didn't happen" stories recently and my dander is up, but I guess we'll see.

  • General Butt Naked||

    ...or it is domestic propaganda perpetrated by the corrupt administration.

    I think if they were going to go this route they'd at least get a verifiable story. You know, make sure the asshole actually signed up. Or at least get him into the system ahead of others and pay the dad off to comply. Or... Shit, fucking maybe, tell the goddamn dad that there's a story about him in the national goddamn press.

    Unless they were counting on such a fucking cowed media to not even worry about those things.

    On another note, how long before they just invent people out of thin air to do these stories. The admin hires an actor (or uses a cgi pic), puts together a plausible history with corroborating documents and uses a few friendly press to push the story?

  • azz||

    what makes you think they aren't already inventing or hiring actors to do stories check out this link..they hire actors for emergency preparedness exercises like the one they did in Boston lol
    http://memoryholeblog.com/2013.....nt-page-1/
    or check out this websites information and this http://www.crisisactors.com/re....._Media.pdf

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    Thank you for reporting the TRUTH...hard to find these days in the world of Blowbama d*ck sucking Libtard "media"...

  • Bill Dalasio||

    "Either the kid is such an Obama worshipping cocksucker that he fabricated this entire story; or it is domestic propaganda perpetrated by the corrupt administration."

    Yes.

  • montana mike||

    agitprop

  • mr simple||

    There is no mercy in this insurance exchange!

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    Bill told me that when he does enroll, his focus will be on getting value for money. “Whatever gets the most coverage for the least price,” is what Bill said he’s looking for in a plan.

    Yeah, good luck with that Bill.

  • Sevo||

    The best coverage for the least money is obviously the find.
    Sign up for the cheap one when you get sick.

  • #||

    Related to that. What would be keeping you from buying the cheapest "bronze" plan to satisfy the mandate and then upgrade to "gold" once you get sick?

  • Sevo||

    Why bother?
    You can pay the tiny fine and ignore insurance until you get sick or injured and then sign up for the premium coverage.

  • JWatts||

    They've actually put an enrollment period in now. So you can only enroll 10 weeks out of the year, without some kind of qualifying event. However, I'm not sure that upgrading your plan is restricted to the enrollment period.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    You mean they're going to deny people insurance?! But, but, guaranteed issue!

  • Aresen||

    Either Bill or Chad does not have the facts right.

    It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

    If it turns out that Chad is not enrolled, he is going to be massively 'unfriended' by the whole of Team Blue.

  • bigac||

    Wait just one minute. Are you insinuating that an Obama supporter would lie to make the lightbringer look better? Preposterous! I'll hear no more of this outrageous slander!

  • ||

    They'll start bitching about false flags soon enough.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    I'm sure this was vetted by Obama's Truth Team.

  • Specail Sauce||

    Nothing to see here, move along... Just some Teathuglican racists trying to cause problems again.

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    F*CK OFF you brain dfead Blowbama d*ck sucking Libtard DOUCHEB*G. I think I hear the short bus coming, a$$hole...you don't want to miss it AGAIN.

  • SweatingGin||

    A Georgia Boy!


    Palin's Buttplug|10.3.13 @ 4:40PM|#|–|filternamelinkcustom

    Meet Chad Henderson, the Obamacare enrollee tons of reporters are calling

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....e-calling/

    A Georgia boy!
  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    I think this post makes it pretty clear that Shreek is in fact a paid agent of the DNC or some other leftist/proggie organization. He gets paid to shit on threads, divert attention and dilute content. What a craven cocksucker.

  • Andrew S.||

    Nah. Shreek is just too dumb to know the difference.

  • ||

    Remember. He's a "classical liberal."

    How a classical liberal can reconcile that philosophy with Obamacare is a mystery to me - nay - all of us.

  • cavalier973||

    "Classical Liberal", huh? I'd always considered him as more of a "Baroque Liberal".

  • Loki||

    I've always just considered him a craven mendacious shitstack with the IQ of a jar of moldy mayonaise.

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    Thanks to this clusterf*ck called BLOWBAMACARE (Read: The UNaffordable Wealth Scare SCAM, America will soon be "baroque" as well...

  • Michael||

    The other day it referred to itself as a "classic liberal". I initially dismissed this as a result of glaring stupidity, but now I can only wonder if this was a sleight of hand.

  • Jordan||

    And now Stalin's Buttboy has a sad.

  • PapayaSF||

    Perhaps Chad Henderson is Mr. Buttplug.

  • anon||

    Either way, he surely has a curb-stompable face.

  • ||

    My wife and I just got a letter from her employer that, due to Obamacare's ridiculous rules and regulations, they will no longer be able to provide insurance to their part-time workers.

    So thank you asshole for supporting this piece of shit law.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    I take it your wife didn't like her health care plan?

  • ||

    Haha, it took me a minute to see what you did there.

  • Bryan C||

    That's ok. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to explain how it's all really the fault of the wreckers and hoarders at her evil greedy corporate employer.

  • anon||

    I'm sure someone will be along shortly to explain how it's all really the fault of the wreckers and hoarders at her evil greedy corporate employer.

    Well if those obstruktionist teathuglicans hadn't shut down the government it would have been heaven on earth.

    /derp

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    Anus = Brain dead Blowbama d*ck sucking Libtard DOUCHEB*G.

  • ||

    I'm actually surprised nobody said that when she vented about it on facebook.

  • Tonio||

    Sorry, to hear that DesigNate.

  • ||

    Thanks. We'll figure it out somehow.

  • RightNut||

    . He was a volunteer with President Obama’s campaign last year, and his LinkedIn page still lists him as an active volunteer with Organizing for Action, the former campaign organization which now advocates for the president’s legislative agenda.

    Shouldn't this have set off alarm bells for every reporter? Its almost like they are so desperate to help the President they would ignore obvious conflicts of interest in reporting a story. But Tony keeps telling me its all in my head, so I guess I'm imagining things.

  • ||

    Seriously, fuck the media. It wouldn't give me one second of pause if people started until they stopped sucking Obama's cock.

  • ||

    It sure did set off alarm bells. Alarm bells that this was a story that was too good to pass up!

    The vast majority of journalists are utter fucking scumbag hacks who have had a veneer of "impartiality" slapped over deep teachings of "control the narrative". You find the journalists you think you can trust to a certain degree, and then assume every single other one is lying, or utterly incompetent, or both.

  • MOFO.||

    It was fake, but accurate.

  • ||

    Well, look at the Journolist 1.0 blowup and how "journalists" who openly advocated making knowingly false smears of racism still have their jobs. You think people who've realized that they can get away with that are going to stop doing it, or that there isn't coordination on things like these on whatever the Journolist 2.0 equivalent is called?

  • CatoTheElder||

    Journolist 2.0 is called Twitter.

  • Bryan C||

    "Shouldn't this have set off alarm bells for every reporter?"

    Hey now. If they let themselves be distracted by alarm bells every time the White House called with an important story, they'd never get have any time for all this hard-hitting reporting.

  • John Jay.||

    It really is ridiculous that this ever got any traction. Of the thousands of people presumably trying to sign up this week, it seems substantially more likely that zero have made it through the system than exactly one.

  • Loki||

    They probably didn't even bother looking into the kid's story or personal history and just accepted his bullshit at face value because they were so desperate to find someone, anyone, who had actually been able to enroll so that they could claim success.

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    Can somebody get Senator Vreenak in here? I think he has something for this.

  • RightNut||

    It's to bad that people only see that quick part of the episode. In the Pale Moonlight is easily among the top 5 Trek episodes ever.

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    It's the best one, in my opinion.

  • RightNut||

    Mine too actually, but I didn't want to start a geek war. Personally, and I know people will flip shit over this, I think I preferred DS9 to any other Trek show.

  • Long Range Boredom||

    I agree with you actually. And I thought Gul Dukat was one of the best Trek villains ever until they made him into a mad dog.

  • RightNut||

    7th season in general was on the meh side. It had a few good episodes, but it felt like they were rushing to tie everything up so they could end it.

  • sloopyinca||

    Speaking of Star Trek, Banjos ordered me a bunch of action figures the other day from Amazon and the package got here yesterday...and it was all the wrong shit. Instead of "Picard as Galen" and "Dr Crusher in 40's attire", I ended up with a bunch of Ocean Spray powders.

    I mean, who the fuck orders ocean spray powders by the caseload?

    But never fear, I'll be getting those and a few more, like "Worf as Will Scarlet" as soon as Amazon reships them.

  • RightNut||

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    Gul Dukat was actually the same guy that played Gul Macet in the STTNG episode "The Wounded"...back when they wore thise awful brown uniforms with the funky "glasses"

  • Juice||

    The rates are ridiculous. I have an individual plan now that's $83/mo. It has a $2700 deductible and $5875 out of pocket cap from Care First BCBS. I just got a letter yesterday saying that I could not keep the same policy and would have to switch to an accepted plan. All the bronze plans have larger deductibles ($3k-5k) and higher OOP caps (~$6k) and I know that they'll cost like $180/mo.

    This is your Affordable Care Act.

  • ||

    My wife's plan cost us most of her paycheck right now, like $400 a month (family of 3), but the individual deductible is only $750 with the family deductible like $2500.

    The cheapest PPO plan from BCBS is $550 without the "credit" and has deductibles of $6,000 and $12,700 respectively.

    So yeah, affordable my pale white ass.

  • SIV||

    Shades of the SCHIP poster boy. At least this kid is an adult and his family isn't upper middle class like the Frosts.

  • Sevo||

    ..."It was promoted to the media by Enroll America,"...
    I sent an email yesterday asking who provides the funding for this non-profit; you will not find it on their web site.
    No response.

  • CatoTheElder||

    Based on this story, I'd speculate that Enroll America is funded by corporations that have been shaken down by one Kathleen Sebelius.

  • General Butt Naked||

    "The response to my story from earlier in the week has been overwhelming!," he wrote in a Facebook update last night. "Here's an update: I've now been interviewed by The Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Chattanooga Times Free Press, The Huffington Post, Enroll America, and POLITICO!!"

    Gawd, all cylinders are running trying to ram this shit down our throats. Do the cocksuckers think that enough feel-good stories about this fucking albatross will have the public singing the praises of Obamacare despite the obvious fucking hardships it's gonna place on them?

    I'm sure a middle class father of two whose hours have been cut and whose health insurance has gone up will be jumpin' for jesus that this little sycophantic, lying cocksucker got a good deal on insurance he doesn't fucking need.

  • anon||

    Do the cocksuckers think that enough feel-good stories about this fucking albatross will have the public singing the praises of Obamacare despite the obvious fucking hardships it's gonna place on them?

    Have you learned nothing?

    Of course they think that. Because Americans will actually buy that shit.

  • anon||

    I mean look; people aren't even outraged that they're going to be forced to buy a product from a company, no matter what. Instead, they focus on how much it costs/etc.

    We've already lost.

  • General Butt Naked||

    I think most people aren't pissed because they already have "free" health insurance from their employers and think that they'll actually be able to keep their coverage. The horror stories of people's contributions going through the roof and hours being cut are starting to trickle in.

    The people that don't have health insurance, i.e. the young and healthy, are relatively ignorant of the new policy according to recent polls. When they lose their tax refund (which when you work multiple shitty part-time jobs is a huge event) the shit is going to hit the fan. I'm not saying that they'll go out and vote for rand paul, but the historic youth turnout that DearLeader got will be a one off.

  • ||

    I don't see that happening at all. The kids who lose their tax returns are never going to demand a repeal of Obamacare. They're going to demand subsidies.

  • anon||

    Exactly. The solution will be to throw more money at it, not repeal it. Just like it has been with every single other federal program to date, with a few VERY rare exceptions.

  • General Butt Naked||

    I never said that they would. I don't expect them to.

    What I do expect is that the turnout of young liberal people to drop, especially in the presidential election. I also expect a barely statistically significant rise in libertarian/conservative leaning young people. Maybe not enough to swing the potus election, but enough to affect mid-terms and locals.

  • Juice||

    I'm sure a middle class father of two whose hours have been cut and whose health insurance has gone up will be jumpin' for jesus that this little sycophantic, lying cocksucker got a good deal on insurance he doesn't fucking need.

    Good deal? It looks like a shit deal to me.

  • sarcasmic||

    "Phoney scandal! Manufactured outrage!"

  • Hollywood||

    *golf clap*

  • Bryan C||

    Hanging Chad.

  • Lord Humungus||

    thread win.

  • Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!||

    Internet WIN.

  • Specail Sauce||

    +1 noose

  • Tonio||

    Suderman!

  • Almanian!||

    If The Gobbler were still around, he'd say, "Way to go, kiddo!"

  • Tonio||

    What ever happened to him?

  • Enough About Palin||

    I think he and Sandi got married.

  • cavalier973||

    I would think that the least expensive health care program one could have would be to take care of one's self. Eat right, exercise, etc.

  • ||

    You're mistaken if you think the goal has ever been about your health. It's always been about making you pay for everyone else's.

  • cavalier973||

    That's what's so annoying about this debate. Health insurance != health care, and yet everyone seems to conflate the two for propaganda purposes.

  • Restoras||

    It has nothing to do with propaganda but everything to do with consolidating more power in DC and paying insurance companies to help.

  • BigT||

    It's propaganda and a power grab. Just like not raising the debt ceiling = default in the MSM. They are either too stupid or evil to describe it properly.

  • Zeb||

    Yeah, constantly referring to insurance as "health care" is terrible. I miss Groovus Maximus' frequent reminders of this fact. Not having insurnace does not mean that you don't have health care. You can still take care of yourself, pay cash for preventative care and the occasional script for antibiotics or whatever and set up a payment plan if you have some accident or illness that requires hospital care. It would be wise to have some catastrophic insurance plan for if something serious happens, but even without that, it is just a lie to say that all the uninsured don't have "health care".
    And if the entire market weren't dominated by insurance and government payments, it would be a lot cheaper and easier for people to pay out of pocket for routine care.

  • Brett L||

    Insurance protects assets. No assets, no insurance. Especially as my lack of insurance doesn't drain your assets, as is a special case for car accidents.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    But because of EMTALA it does drain your assets. It does it through higher premiums that you pay for insurance and higher costs for those that actually do pay out of pocket. And you could argue that your existence is the most valuable asset you have.

    Bottom line: we don't hold people accountable for their actions and so we get this shit.

  • Jake Badlands||

    Maddest of props, Mr Suderman.

    I do question whether the media will have to keep looking, though. They could just pretend this never happened and refuse to retract.

  • Adamsmith1776||

    I am not sure what is worse. A country with 30 million uninsured where one person gets insurance through the exchange or one where no one can get it. I kind of liked this story because it highlighted how pathetic the implemetation was.

  • Madisonian||

    They and you and I could always get insurance. Many choose not to, and I bet they still will.

  • DK||

    Some more Hanging Chad for the Democrats.

  • Rasilio||

    Am I the only one who thinks he looks like Johnny (the bully) from the original Karate Kid movie?

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    Asked and answered, yo.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    He doesn't look like he could sweep the leg.

  • General Butt Naked||

    No.

    I said so above (in so many words).

  • Loki||

    If you mean it looks like he wouldn't even be able to take down Ralph Macchio and will walk face first into someone's foot, then yes.

  • Jordan||

    Wasn't there a dipshit troll named Chad who used to come around here and rant about "cheap Chinese crap" and "McMansions" while bragging about his art collection and extolling the virtues of Japan? I remember he was a zealot in the Church of Climate Change too.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    We do know that he had internet access...

  • tarran||

    You know who I miss? Edward/Leftiti/Concerned Observer.

    He was John the Baptist to Mary Stack's Jesus.

    I think her batshit insanity drove him away... poor thing, he must have recognized that no matter how obsessively and prolifically he trolled, she would always best him.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    Orange Line Special was pretty funny to me.

  • T||

    Hercules Triathlon Saavinen was the best evar.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    GREATEST of [all] time.

  • Enough About Palin||

    YES!

  • GILMORE||

    wait a minute... i think the GOAT (greatest of all time) must. necessarily go to Lonewacko, as all other trolls are but shadows of his OriginalImage. Also, i dont recall any others asking politicians the tough questions and posting their answers on youtube. also, he and Matt Welch had a secret relationship. something involving baseball. which may be a euphamism, i dont know.

  • GILMORE||

    also, i b eve the proper nomenclature is "Herecule", dude. just saying.

  • SugarFree||

    That's not what happened to him. He got banned shortly after registration.

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    I miss Jersey McJones, Dave W., and of course Shawty aka joefromlol.

  • SugarFree||

    joe was capable of acting like a real human. I don't miss him, but at least he wasn't 100% greifer like "Tony" and shrike.

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    That's true.

  • SIV||

    MNG was a barrel of monkeys strapped to the back of a unicycle-peddling bear in a pink tutu. I wonder what he does all day in the college administration office now?

  • Enough About Palin||

    MNG was a barrel of monkeys strapped to the back of a unicycle-peddling pedobear in a pink tutu.

  • Zeb||

    Joe was alright up until the election, then he kind of lost it. It seemed like he at least accepted that libertarianism was a legitimate alternative approach to things.
    But I tend to be a lot more charitable in how I read people like that than a lot of others on here.

  • SugarFree||

    joe played a good game until you caught him out on some bullshit he was running and then he'd get really nasty. Once you see the mask slip, you shouldn't forget what is under there.

  • ||

    Yeah, that's my recollection too. Joe's civility was all facade. When we were slagging on Bush he was just fine with that. But after Obama was elected it only took him a week or so before the mask was slipping every day.

  • RightofCenter||

    Oddly enough, recently one of you regulars posted a link to an H&R comment from 1 or 2 years ago. As I scrolled through the thread the language sounded similar but I didn't recognize a single name. Either you've all changed your names or the commentariat has been completely replaced, like so many dead skin cells.

    Back to lurking...

  • GILMORE||

    I Will NEVER DIE

    although i will capitalize less

  • johnl||

    A lot of names changed with registration.

  • Tonio||

    We should have* a roll of honor for commenters.

    (*)By which I mean I'm hoping someone else will do that, but I'll gladly participate, cheerlead, whatever. I also realize that I'm violating my own prohibition against defining the needs of others.

  • ||

    Sounds like he was a winner.

  • SugarFree||

    Tony is more of an enviro angle. He left around the same time the original Tony did (further evidence of my conjecture they were the same person.)

  • BigT||

    Doesn't White Indian get any (dis)respect? He had the most unusual POV

  • GILMORE||

    ALL PEOPLE NAMED CHAD ARE FUCKED UP

    true fact

  • Anonymous Coward||

    MSNBC attempts to defend Harry Reid with a lot of handwaving:

    Republicans leaped onto ill-timed remarks by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid Wednesday for an exchange in which, after a reporter asked if the Nevada Senator would support a bill funding the National Institutes of Health so children with cancer would have access to experimental treatments, Reid appeared to reply, “Why would we do that?”....

    Reid was actually responding to his colleague, New York Democratic Senator Charles Schumer, who had asked, “Why pit one against the other?”....

    Republicans have opposed the expansion of health insurance coverage, including for children, since before Obama even took office. In 2007, President George W. Bush vetoed efforts by Democrats in Congress to expand the S-CHIP, the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, to cover millions more uninsured children.

    So if we ASSUME that Reid was responding to Schumer (why he would be talking to Schumer instead of the reporter?) then Harry wasn't being a total dick to the children.

    On the other hand, I'm sure TEAM Red hates the children because they wouldn't increase funding for SCHIP. Nothing to do with that sin tax added on to bill for cigarettes (which are just taxes on the vices of the poor, but I digress).

  • Brett L||

    Yeah, I'm putting these back for when people tell me that Fox News is the only network that acts as a political water carrier.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    Of course TEAM Red is opposing the expansion of health insurance coverage. If the government doesn't fund it, it's not funded.

  • John Galt||

    Nothing puts a big dung eating smile on the son's face like doing his part to help enslave the American people.

  • Loki||

    So he's basically a lieing sack of shit and a media troll. No wonder he's such a fan of Obama, he probably sees a lot of himself in the God-King. If Obama had an adopted white son...

    BTW, isn't Shriek from Georgia?

  • SIV||

    He pretends to be is more accurate.

  • Tomblvd||

    Read his twitter timeline, when the story first got out yesterday he was really riding high. He was overwhelmed by the attention, yet he couldn't get enough of it.

    It's actually a little sad. I'd feel bad for him if he showed the slightest bit of remorse and apologized.

  • Drake||

    Wow, the last thing I would expect is a bunch of lies about Obamacare.

  • Almanian!||

    OT: Reading all this, it occurs to me - isn't Melissa Harris Perry a Journolisp?

  • Dweebston||

    Look whose showing his enunciation privilege, cisspeechfascist.

  • CatoTheElder||

    ObamaCare must be a HUGE success!!!!!

    I've been attempted at least 25 times to log on since it started up, and I always get this message:

    "We have a lot of visitors on the site right now.
    Please stay on this page."

    I've even tried at 2 AM to no avail.

    I finally did get the Chat function to work, though. It responded, "Due to high call volume, all of our representatives are currently assisting other callers in completing Marketplace enrollment applications. Please keep trying, and thanks for your patience. You might have better success during off-peak hours, like later at night or early in the morning."

    There really must be a lot of interest if a website can't handle the volume of inquiries at 2 in the morning!!!

    I am really encouraged that ObamaCare will fundamentally transform 18% of the US economy!!!

  • anon||

    I am really encouraged that ObamaCare will fundamentally transform 18% of the US economy!!!

    You say this sarcastically, but sadly we all know exactly how true it is.

  • CatoTheElder||

    I did finally get the Chat function to work!!! After about ten minutes of getting the following message in the chat window:

    "Please be patient while we are serving other people"

    I actually got a response. I asked when the Texas version would be in operation, and I got the oh-so-helpful advice to go the same HealthCare.gov site that, of course, isn't working. Perhaps coincidentally, though, the signup screen that had previously also said "Please be patient ..." updated with the form to set up a User ID. I filled in the information and even got through the security questions page this time. Aha, finally!!! Then, I get a screen that says:

    Create a Marketplace account
    !Important: Your account couldnt [sic] be created at this time. The system is unavailable.
    TRY AGAIN

    I suspect that this will be how emergency rooms will respond to a 60-year-old complaining of chest pains in a few years.

  • Dweebston||

    A monthly premium of $175 would represent about 30 percent of his pre-tax take home pay—about $583 a month on the $7,000 part-time income he claimed.

    Uh, pardon me, how does this in any sense vindicate the ACA? Chad Henderson, a 21-year-old, does not need this coverage. He needs a cheap catastrophic plan, the sort of coverage ACA specifically disqualifies. Henderson's case highlights the problems the ACA creates by hamfistedly trying to resolve issues it managed to exacerbate: namely, making insurance a more expensive proposition and delivery more uncertain. And supporters are trumpeting this? It's kafkaesque even without these new developments.

  • Root Boy||

    Somebody from Cato did some journolism on this and found that pre-obamacare, he would have only been spending $44/month.

    Think that will get wide airplay?

  • ||

    But then he wouldn't have coverage for when he gets pregnant!

  • CatoTheElder||

    Well, Mediaite has a story titled "Shock and Awful: Conservatives Already Lying About Obamacare Enrollee Chad Henderson" regarding the Cato analysis.

    According to the Mediaite story, Mr. Henderson didn't actually have insurance. By their "reasoning", the Cato headline, “Obamacare Increases Man’s Premiums 300%,” was a lie because "he had no health insurance premium to quadruple."

  • mplspolitics||

    Now the shit sippers are suggesting he is a boy genius who trolled the media. You can't make this shit up.

  • Carolynp||

    Amazing what happens when the press applies journalism...

  • Tonio||

    I know we as a group tend to hate publicity, and the press, but we need everyone whose coverage got more expensive, or whose coverage shrank while premiums remained the same, to call their local media and ask them to report that. They can't ignore all the datapoints.

  • Dweebston||

    They can't ignore all the datapoints.

    I think you misunderestimate the boat-rocking aversion characteristic of our media.

  • Dweebston||

    *misunderestimate used ironically because I'm sometimes hipster that way.

  • Tonio||

    Oh, I know that the national legacy media will ignore all of this. Except for Fox. And then Maddow, Stewart, et als will start talking about those crazy, paranoid reports that Fox keeps picking up from yokel media outlets. Then the MSM will start fact-checking...

  • ||

    ...and then the story will be quietly forgotten.

  • Loki||

    "Look! Another shiny object!" /MSM

  • burserker||

    please move along, nothing to see here!

  • Almanian!||

    Also, blonde boy reminds me of a young James Spader's (circa "Pretty in Pink") wussy younger brother who didn't smoke or drink or get laid by hot, rich chicks. Spader would've slapped him around some, but mostly ignored him.

    Then, young Chad ends up in the streets, sucking dicks for drugs like Downey, Jr. in "Less Than Zero".

    God - this kid's an 80's loser. No wonder he can't figure out how to sign up for Obamacare - he's trying to use his Atari to enroll.

  • setTHEline||

    So wait, Chad lied????

  • anon||

    Chad Lied, Obama Died?

  • MJGreen||

    What a shitbag this kid is. And he ropes his father, who appears to be a struggling business owner and generally honest, into his self-glorifying lies.

    I hope he eventually realizes how embarrassing and shameful this is.

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    Time for the dad to kick the Cobra Kai douche*g out on the street...

  • itsnotmeitsyou||

    I take back every bad thing I've ever said about you, Suderman. (I may have insulted you about some movie reviews or something)

    This is excellent. I've seen several people post the story of the "hero" on different social media and I'm going back and sharing the link to this story on every single one.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    People were calling him a hero for supposedly signing up for subsidized stuff online?

  • itsnotmeitsyou||

  • itsnotmeitsyou||

    And this derp

    "Chances are you will soon be hearing the name Chad Henderson and his heroic story of enrolling successfully in a health care exchange. His is a saga of hope and redemption. If Chad can do it, maybe the millions of other healthy young people needed to sustain this program can too."

    (emphasis mine)

  • Zeb||

    Seriously? They think that it requiring heroic deeds to sign up for it is a positive thing to say about it? Holy shit.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    If it's so impossible to do that you are hero for achieving it, I'm pretty sure your program is already a failure.

  • CatoTheElder||

    When I read that story I thought the hyperbolic language was sarcastic.

    Now I'm not so sure.

  • Whahappan?||

    Poe's law strikes again!

  • GILMORE||

    ""If Chad can do it, maybe the millions of other healthy young people needed to sustain this program can too.""

    The Program... it needses the bloods of teh youths... must be sustained...by the economic illiteracy and instinctive dependency.... yessss.... more we needs....

  • JWatts||

    So, what you are saying is that the God Emperor sitting on his Golden Throne requires thousands to be sacrificed everyday to sustain his ego. Yep, that sound about right.

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    Yep...the Gub'ment takes a gallon of your blood and puts your rotting carcass back on the rows of the unemployed.

  • Bill Dalasio||

    You know, the funny part of all this is that they're pretty much acknowledging that the "Chad Hendersons" of the world get screwed by participating in this. Since Obamacare's inception, we were told that it made sense for young, generally healthy people to sign up to pay for a program that they would have virtually no use for. Now that the program is in place, they're being told they're "heroic" for doing what everyone was previously told would just be logical behavior.

  • B.P.||

    "Chad said his father encouraged him to be covered under his own plan, even though the cost was higher. "He's old school, so he wants me to take responsibility," Chad told The Huffington Post."

    The threshold for personal responsibility has certainly changed over the years.

  • Dweebston||

    "Responsible" would mean finding a high-copay, low-premium catastrophic or HSA plan, and paying the penaltax for the first few years. I guarantee he'd come out ahead by leaps.

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    Like I say right below here, Chad's income precludes him from using the exchanges. He should be on Medicaid.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    The actual conversation probably went like this:

    "Hey Dad, can I borrow your computer?"

    "Yeah, son, just stay off the political sites for once."

    "FUCK YOU, DAD!!!"

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    Hahahahaha...classic.

  • ||

    I may have somehow missed it but did Mr Suderman reach out to Chad for a response before publishing this?

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    Good question but it's moot anyway. There's no way this kid is telling the truth. An income of $7,000 means he gets to either go on Medicaid or stay on his parents plan. No exchange is going to sell someone that broke a Bronze plan he cannot afford.

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    Apparently Chad the douche tried to sign up for the Bazooka Joe plan of the UNaffordabe Wealth Scare SCAM...

  • Biden's Scroteplugs||

    Chad is on the record. Now his father is too, and it doesn't jibe.

  • SugarFree||

    It could use clarification, but it read like Suderman was trying to reach Chad's father and Bill shredded his own son's story.

    Now that it's out, I would imagine interviewing Chad Henderson is going to be difficult for quite some time.

  • silvermoonsc||

    According to his Twitter feed, he JUST (like w/in the last fifteen minutes, seriously) started a road trip vacay to Ohio. Of course he can't be reached...lol.

  • SugarFree||

    Perfect.

  • GILMORE||

    he's going to visit his canadian girlfriend

    Tin soldier of Obama's comin
    something something something
    blah blah blah oh-high-oh

  • mplspolitics||

    Why not just ask him on your own?

    Flintstone Child Care Center:
    (706) 820-2638

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    Yabba Dabba Do

  • Ken Shultz||

    Obama doesn't give a damn about the truth and neither do his devotees in the media.

    The media didn't do any critical checking when Bush fed us a bill of goods on Al Qaeda and WMD in Iraq, and they don't want to know the truth about ObamaCare either.

    If loving ObamaCare is wrong, they don't want to be right.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWAUCVbnDUg

    It's classic cult behavior. Reality has to be checked to see that it's pro-Obama first, and only then can it become a fact. The supreme fact is that Obama is The One--and there isn't anything they can know that isn't subservient to the supreme fact.

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    So, slightly OT, but wasn't HuffPo supposed at least ostensibly unbiased, or is that my imagination? I didn't think Arianna set out to be Lefty Central.

  • General Butt Naked||

    No, it was supposed to be a lefty drudge.

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    That's what it looks like now, I admit. I just didn't think that was the original intent.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Britannica says that it was started as lefty:

    The Huffington Post was created to provide a liberal counterpart to the Drudge Report, a conservative news-and-commentary Web site founded by Matt Drudge.

    I can't find anything else on the founding of HuffPo. I did find some stuff when they merged with AOL about going beyond left/right dichotomy, but that was some corporate bullshit to increase page hits.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Huffiana pretended all sorts of things when her husband had a shot to be a Senator from California. She used to debate on the same side as William F. Buckley!

    As soon as Mr. Huffington's candidacy cratered, she started moving to the left almost immediately. She became something of a social power in Hollywood--rich as Midas and was married to a gay man, what could be cooler than that?!

    If she ever claimed that the Huffington Post was supposed to be unbiased, it should be taken about as seriously as the Onion calling itself "America's Finest News Source".

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    I'd have to dredge up the old radio interviews she was doing when she launched it to verify. It's just I remember hearing...something...different from what HufflePuffle is today.

  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    See, this BuzzFeed article says in its early days, HuffPo's ideological slant was deliberately kept vague:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfe.....ngton-post

  • Root Boy||

    Like Ken says, she used to be on the National Review side (Zakaria was like that too until he got his citizenship) and then rich husband turned gay, she turned Hollywood, rich liberal divorcee.

    Breitbart actually helped her set up Huffpo, so maybe it's true she wanted it to be middle of the road...

  • Dweebston||

    Gutfeld seems to have a soft spot for Arianna, presumably dating back to his days palling around with Breitbart, so I don't think it's a stretch that HuffPo was considered at its founding to be a moderate liberal website before going full-derp.

  • Ken Shultz||

    "Breitbart actually helped her set up Huffpo"

    She may have dropped a ton of money in his lap.

  • entropy||

    Reason: 1
    Institutional Journalism: 0

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    Common Sense/fact checking: 1, Brain dead Blowbama d*ck sucking Libtard doucheb*g 'Urinalism': ZEEEERO.

  • mgd||

    Enroll America's digital director, Adam Stalker

    Well now, that's an ominous-sounding surname, given the data a person holding this position would be able to access...

  • SugarFree||

    Look, everyone... Mary is in the comments on the Time article from earlier. (That's the user name for all those stalker YouTube videos she makes.)

    k.kaprow 48 minutes ago
    Meanwhile, the anarchists at Gillespie's Reason.com are currently beside themselves over a breathless exposé of one Chad Henderson, the Official ObamaCare Poster Boy (who even knew they had one?). Apparently, Chad may have lied about his enrollment. Or maybe he misspoke. Or maybe he was misquoted. Regardless, he is now officially a Monster, and President Obama, by association, is also a Monster.
  • Neoliberal Kochtopus||

    Heyyyyy Mary!

    Has she made a new video lately? I haven't checked.

  • SugarFree||

    One from a month ago. It's only a few seconds long. Really phoning it in. Still obsessed with calling this a "chatroom." Still unclear of why that is an insult.

    Last time checked, they still haven't banned her from grylliade for some baffling reason.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Awesome.

    I wonder how many people are gonna google this story that normally wouldn't have because of her craziness.

    It' almost as if there wasn't a mary, we'd have to invent her. We need rabid opposition that makes our radical anti-statism seem calm and rational in comparison.

  • ||

    Apparently Mary doesn't understand that we thought Obama was a monster long before Chad Henderson started his self-aggrandizement campaign.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Mary could never grasp the concept that we despise Obama because of his policies. She always thought that we despised his policies because we despised Obama.

    I could never really figure out what her politics were, anyway. Was she a conservative that hated us for being big on civil rights? Was she a progressive?

    I could never tell. It always seemed to me like she just wanted attention.

  • ||

    Mary could never grasp the concept that we despise Obama because of his policies. She always thought that we despised his policies because we despised Obama

    .

    Likewise, she could never grasp that we despised her for the same reason. I doubt it's ever occurred to her that we (and by we I mean not just libertarians, but normal human beings) don't like people who stir shit for the sake of stirring shit and resort to temper tantrums when they don't get their way. See also: Tulpa, Tony, Shrike...

  • tarran||

    Mary wanted us to despise her.

    Her big hot button issue was the treatment of women. Say that sometimes women would falsely accuse men of rape, and she would detonate. I vaguely remember some altercation where a man shot a woman in self defense where she exploded at our callous refusal to be outraged.

    I remember reading a cached version of her blog where her biggest post detailed the fate of members of Khaddafi's amazon body-guard who had been raped and murdered by the rebels. It was full of pictures of bloated female corpses next to pictures of them alive, with incohate rage that women could be allowed to be killed in this way by allies of the U.S. govt.

    And once she was set off, nothing would stop her. IF you said something evil, you.... were..... going..... to..... pay!

    Nothing short of you feeling her pain would satisfy her.

  • GILMORE||

    ..."I remember reading a cached version of her blog..."

    You are a filthy disgusting person and deserve whatever mind-disease resulted as a consequence.

  • ||

    Kaprow. You are a lying piece of shit.

    Anarchists.

    Seriously, assholes like that deserve to be fed raw olives.

    Ever eat a raw olive?

    Yeah, raw olive. Maybe rub it in his eye for being some a pompous little shit.

    As you were.

  • Killazontherun||

    I like raw olives. What's the problem with raw olives? Cut them up, blend with cream cheese, rolled in a tortilla shell, sliced into pinwheel, ate on a toothpick, delicious.

  • silvermoonsc||

    Yes, lying, deceitful people who bilk taxpayers so they can line their own pockets, push their own agendas, and (in that stupid little fuctard, Chad Henderson's case) engage in fame-whoring ARE monsters.

  • mplspolitics||

    How do i find these videos?

  • G-dub||

    "says that he successfully enrolled himself and his father Bill in insurance plans via the online exchange administered at healthcare.gov."

    I heard he was also planning a shooting spree that was foiled because he couldn't get an assault weapon and because the NSA intercepted his emails detailing the plot.

  • SugarFree||

    Not even SadBeard, the Microwave French Bread Pizza of Derpology, has figured out a way to spin this.

  • Lord Humungus||

    You are a wordsmith of the highest caliber. Huzzah!

  • MJGreen||

    Disgusting.

    French Bread Pizza goes in the toaster oven.

  • Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!||

    *applause*

  • burserker||

    will Chad receive free contraception for anal sex with his boyfriend?

  • ||

    Mr. homophobe,
    Do you know what "contraception" means?

  • SugarFree||

    I means not having to go to a clinic to get an ass abortion. Duh.

  • SugarFree||

    *It means* I cannot type. Because I don't have free health care coverage for my crippling fingertardation.

  • Jordan||

    To be fair, there are some dumps I would rather have aborted.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    It's stuff like this that makes me really love this website.

  • burserker||

    hook, line, and sinker! welcome to reason.com huffpo superuser high#

  • ||

    ?

  • C. Anacreon||

    !

  • Killazontherun||

    Nice work there, Peter.

    In up is down world,

    A Staunch Republican Tries Obamacare ... And Discovers That It's Actually Pretty Awesome

    http://www.businessinsider.com.....re-2013-10

    Sy Mukherjee of ThinkProgress caught up with Butch Matthews, a 61-year old former small business owner from Little Rock, Arkansas. Matthews, a diehard Republican, was skeptical of Obamacare. But the new law has already allowed him to buy insurance that is both much better, and much cheaper, than the astronomically expensive pre-Obamacare plan he was clinging to from Blue Cross Blue Shield.

    Hey, some baby boomer with a trophy wife half his age gets a subsidy to insert a pig valve in his Viagra wrecked heart paid for by a kid working in the service industry who wont have money left over to even pay for a blowjob. America 21 Century, turning a generation of males into omegas so the Woodstock generation can pretend they are thirty again.

    Yeah, that's not a recipe for fomenting social tension.

  • General Butt Naked||

    “I still am a very strong Republican, but this… I’m so happy that this came along,” he continued. “Our home is paid for, vehicle’s paid for, this is our expense that we have. We have more expense on medical care than everything else put together, so this is going to be a great help for us.”

    Shorter derp:

    "I've got mine, FUCK YOU! GIMMEGIMMEGIMMEGIMMENONOM!!!"

  • MJGreen||

    And if Chad's story is to be believed, it will only cost someone like him 30% of his pre-tax income.

  • silvermoonsc||

    But don't you get an exemption from the individual mandate if the cost is greater than 8% of your salary?

    This story stinks as bad as the ACA.

  • Loki||

    "I've got mine, FUCK YOU! GIMMEGIMMEGIMMEGIMMENONOM!!!"

    Isn't that pretty much the Baby Boomer's slogan? "I've got mine, FUCK YOU! Now, pay my medical bills, ya sorry little ingrate!"

  • ||

    If all your shit is paid for gradnpa, then you should be able to afford your own goddamn insurance.

  • #||

    He's older, which means he might actually have a lower premium.

    The real sin is that the guy who admits that his house is paid for and his car is paid for and thefore has few expenses is now being subsidized by Chad types who are paying more.

    Ie this is a transfer from the relatively poor young to the relatively rich, relatively old.

  • ||

    So it's no different from our other favorite Ponzi scheme, social security.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Oh, and another thing...

    How the fuck does some "reporter" from thinkprogress catch up with an old republican from arkansas that just so happens has a fucking story that fits the exact fucking narrative the cocksucker from thinprogress wants to push?

    Did he accidentally run into the cocksucker in the fucking street?

  • Redmanfms||

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's squarely on the "Shit that never happened" list.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    “I still am a very strong Republican, but this… I’m so happy that this came along,” he continued.

    There's a strong whiff of bullshit/concern-trolling here.

  • silvermoonsc||

    How easily lying comes to this little ejit. And shame on his father for raising such a deceitful, selfish little creep. He's in child care? What parent in their right mind would allow this creepy little liar anywhere near their children or anyone trained by him?

  • silvermoonsc||

    Also, now that he's been caught in his lie, he's "on vacation", according to his twitter account. Hmmm.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Awesome.

    If this breaks like it looks like it's gonna break, a lot of suderman haters are gonna be eatin' crow.

  • burserker||

    he's playing golf w/ Obama, and when I say playing golf, I mean keeping his balls clean...

  • Michael||

    Chad Henderson tweets from an iPhone running iOS 7 on Verizon. Not too shabby considering his $7000 annual income.

    Just sayin'.

  • Loki||

    It's probably an Obamaphone.

  • silvermoonsc||

    Daddy pays for it -- you know, old skool daddy who wants him to pay for his own plan even if he's still eligible for cheaper plan through parents.

    Oh, wait...

  • Sean Parnell||

    Will be interesting to see how this turns out. The media seem to also be ignoring that Chad could have bought coverage with a $5,000 deductible before Obamacare for around $50 or $60. This kid is either not the sharpest knife in the drawer, or a phony.

  • Loki||

    I think we've established what he is...

  • silvermoonsc||

    Yes, and it's "liar", not "phony". He's real, alright, and he's a liar.

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    Chad's a bitch. What kind of pussy works at a daycare? The Choad who used to post here. That's what kind of pussy.

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    If this is the kond of lying, brain dead Blowbaam d*ck sucking docuheb*g that they let work at a childcare facility, time to grab my child and keep running far far away...

  • SugarFree||

    Wonkblog is walking the story way back.

    His non-answer is hilarious:

    Sarah Kliff: So your dad says you haven't purchased health insurance.

    Chad Henderson: Here’s my response. Most reporters, I’m not calling anyone out especially you, they haven't had access to the web site. They weren't very clear as to how the process went. Most people have no understanding that it’s a two step process. One is you fill out an application. It sends you a notification received successfully.

    The next step is comparing the prices, comparing all the plans. And that’s when you purchase the plan. I said I enrolled in the marketplace. I never said I chose a specific plan. But the number I gave you, the $175 or $200 or whatever, that is the plan I am choosing. My dad is choosing a different plan. So, enrollment meant that my application was sent and approved. That’s what I meant by enrollment. I have not purchased a specific plan. That’s what’s confusing people.

    My dad was right. I have chosen mine. He hasn't chosen his yet.
  • Certified Public Asskicker||

    Nooo! Back to the detox for me...

  • SugarFree||

    It's OK. It needs to be read. Especially the comments where the Obamabots start spinning fast enough to throw off sparks.

  • JWatts||

    Actually, it was less spin than just denial of reality.

  • Biff7annen||

    "I never said I chose a plan"
    " The number I gave you, that is the plan that I am choosing".
    WTF?

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    LOL, no shit--he's one of the lucky few that didn't manage to get locked out trying to access the site, and he doesn't enroll himself when he has the chance?

    What if he falls and breaks his leg on his "vacation"?

  • jorgeborges||

    So, did Suderman ask the father if he knew that his son was claiming he already signed up?

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    And does he know that he and his father will mysteriously 'disappear' when this gets out?

  • Certified Public Asskicker||

    I'll try and restart my news detox over the weekend. In the meantime:

    WaPo Confirms Lie

    From Chaddy:

    I said I enrolled in the marketplace. I never said I chose a specific plan. But the number I gave you, the $175 or $200 or whatever, that is the plan I am choosing.

    $175 or $200. Hmm.

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    "Or $800 or $1000, or...wait, I'm a Blowbama d*ck sucking shill. Its all free..."

  • silvermoonsc||

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....signed-up/

    There's his back-pedal...

    He doesn't "believe" he's lying. Oh. Okay. Lying is like Tinkerbell...it's only lying if you "believe".

    What a complete and utter douche-bag of a human being that stinking little shit is.

  • Rasilio||

    "He doesn't "believe" he's lying. Oh. Okay. Lying is like Tinkerbell...it's only lying if you "believe"."

    Actually that is true, it is only a lie if you know that the statement is false at the time you utter it.

    That said in this case I think it is less that he doesn't believe it is lying and more that he just doesn't give a damn one way or the other whether his statements are literally true, he *BELIEVES* in their truthiness

  • DarrenM||

    Lying through his teeth to put lipstick on a pig. Chad has a bright future in politics.

  • Loki||

    Maybe he'll be president some day...

  • KimInGA||

    With his $7000 income, he's going to afford the $5000 deductible how?

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    He's a Blowbama d*ck sucking Libtard shill for Blowbamacare...it's all free.

  • silvermoonsc||

    Now his daddy is defending him on twitter, even while his own retweet of Chad claiming he enrolled is still there...hahaha...old dudes should not use twitter.

  • Brian||

    Journalism by anecdote. They deserve it all.

  • G-dub||

    I just linked to this story over on the Mother Jones threads. Here's the response I got:

    Vipsanius • 27 minutes ago −
    prove that these stories are fabrications.
    provide documeentation
    provide sworn depostions.

    They're just too stupid to parody...

  • SweatingGin||

    Come on, it's not like we want to hit him with a PenalTax for not signing up or anything. Just want to find someone who actually did.

  • Killazontherun||

    From the comments:

    abeisavol2
    2:43 PM EST
    then you should sign up for non subsidized private insurance online. I hear that is working perfectly

    In the regulatory frame work where every state imposes dozens of irrelevant expenditures attached to every contract, that would be a Goddamned miracle to pull off. Do the wonders of the market ever seize? Oh, you meant that comment above sarcastically. Private insurance is not working anywhere close to perfectly, gee, I wonder why.

  • Killazontherun||

    Do the wonders of the market ever seize?

    Only when you miss a payment.

  • XM||

    "cease", you mean.

  • Killazontherun||

    Hence the second comment aimed at my own word usage above you.

  • XM||

    Sorry, I missed it.

    They'll give us the edit function one of these days.

  • Brandybuck||

    Marketplace


    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

  • #||

    Well it still is a market. It's just not anything close to a free market.

  • SIV||

    Why are all the comments from the earlier post here?

  • DK||

    The ObamaCare glitch is affecting reason.

  • Killazontherun||

    Something weird just happened. The comment thread on the second story got deleted and replaced with the thread from the original story. There was some good posts by some of you'se guys that got deleted too.

  • Ken Shultz||

    I blame the NSA.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I posted my ATM PIN in that thread.

  • Killazontherun||

    I hope that means there will be free beer waiting for me at the door in a little bit.

    BTW, the New Castle Werewolf brown ale sucks ass.

  • SugarFree||

    What?!? You mean you don't like your beer to have a delicious tinge of grape soda?

  • Killazontherun||

    Nor the lingering taste of dish washing detergent.

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    More like warm cow pi$$ squeezed through a dirty sweat sock...

  • radar||

    Goddammit, my bama bangs insult done been vanished? That's outrageous!

    Who forgot to disable Weigel's login???

  • Killazontherun||

    I feel the same way about my Cass Sustain quip.

  • ||

    Last I check, no one had even mentioned fucking sheep.

  • GILMORE||

    I HAS BEEN MEMORY HOLED... I MISS MY DERRIDA REFERENCE MOCKING PPROGRESSIVE DISTASTE WITH THE ACTUAL 'MEANING' OF WORDS... I HAS A DIGITAL CRY NOW, TEARS IN RAIN, AND DECKERD IS A REPLICANT, HAHAHA LAST LAUGH IS -

  • wilonacoury||

    my roomate's sister makes $78 hourly on the internet. She has been laid off for 6 months but last month her income was $16950 just working on the internet for a few hours. go to this site
    http://WWW.WORKS23.COM

  • Swiss Servator, Kneel to Zug!||

    Oh, sure the spambot gets a comment carried over!

  • SweatingGin||

    Censored!

    Even having a thread of gold deleted can't take away the good mood of libertarian Christmas this week.

    The Federal Government is SHUT DOWN! Going to the wall to protect Obamacare!

    And Obamacare has likely signed up DOZENS! That no one can find!

    I can't wait 'til they start releasing sign up numbers. Boehner should be tossing that on bills. "Department of HHS shall be funded to release details on how many have signed up for ACA exchanges."

  • DK||

    It's a Festivus miracle! Libertarians have certainly aired grievances. What are the libertarian feats of strength?

  • Gbob||

    Well, the libertarian feat of strength is trying to keep Warty from raping you. I would much rather skip that part.

  • Killazontherun||

    That will certainly make your sphincter pucker up like Mt. Vesuvius, so definitely Olympian in the old school sense of a feat of strength.

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    It's a Festivus for the rest of us...

  • Floridian||

    I'm having a hard time being jubilant. I know they are going to reopen the government, give the parasites back pay, and the republicans will extract nothing of value to libertarians from the democrats. The only glimmer of light I see is the shut down last so long it becomes the new normal and people realize they don't need a massive government.

  • BigT||

    How can you be so sure they'll let you down one more time?

  • Floridian||

    The republicans aren't the Cleveland Browns but they are damn close.

  • montana mike||

    BOOM

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    And the brain dead Blowbama d*ck sucking doucheb*g Libtards are the Bob's Grocery PeeWee team. F*CK off, DUMBocrat POS...

  • LynchPin1477||

    The amount of attention being paid to one freaking enrollment (or lack thereof), both by the people who want Obamacare to succeed, and the people who want it to fail, is ludicrous. It is also a completely understandable reaction to a system that has been hyped so much and that forces people to care so much about the private lives of others.

  • silvermoonsc||

    Oh, dear, now he's getting his little friends to try to defend him to conservative journalists. Because they're mean and it's not fair and they don't know him and they're judging him, boohoo.

    The kid tweets, retweets, posts all over FB, gloats over all his interviews, promotes the hell out of them, and then when he's caught lying, he hides behind some Justin Bieber fan's skirts and whines about how everyone's mean and it isn't fair? Seriously?

  • Hillary's Clitdong||

    Well, in all fairness, lots of us were full of shit at that age. Teenage bullshit rarely looks good when put on national television.

    However, Chad does have a bright future career as a White House spokesman.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Isn't he a little old for that position now?

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    He will have to push Gay Carny out of the way and grab his ankles a little lower...

  • DarrenM||

    I'm sure it makes his father proud.

  • SweatingGin||

    We cynics figured there would be problems. They tried to manage expectations over Monday.

    This is way, way worse than I ever could have expected.

    Thinking the next talking point will be that it doesn't matter how many sign up in the first week. Next it'll be "how many sign up before January."

    The way this roll out is going, I'm thinking that won't be a huge number, either. Odds they sign up like 100k nation wide before the deadline?

  • JWatts||

    You legally must be signed up by 1/1/14 to avoid the penaltax. So if they don't get millions signed up in the next 90 days it's going to result in an awful lot of penalties.

  • SIV||

    So are comments on the older story appearing on the newer post?

    I'll try invoking the magic words to summon progtard derp:

    SCHIP poster-child Graeme Frost

    The Baltimore Sun asked the family to verify their claimed income but they declined

  • Hyperion||

    I imagine that it's folks like me, who have good employer provided PPO insurance that will suffer the least from this debacle(unless you work in Congress). We'll only experience gradually increasing rates. People who are forced into exchanges are going to experience a nightmare scenario of monumental proportions. But, in the end, none of us are going to escape the pain entirely (except again, apparently Congress).

  • SweatingGin||

    Gradually increasing rates, and decreasing benefits to stay under the Cadillac Tax. If I understand it right, the tax is bad enough that there won't be any high cost/high benefit plans, except for maybe for executives at non-profits or something. Taxed on the cost of the plan as if it was income? Bam, extra $12k taxable income. Hello new bracket.

  • Floridian||

    People who work in healthcare are going to be hurt. Part of the plan to save money is to decrease reimbursements to healthcare providers. One of the tricks is to make the paperwork difficult to fill out correctly and then deny payment. Under current billing you can correct a mistake and resubmit . Now if it is not done correctly the first time you don't get paid. Also reimbursement rates will be cut if you are bellow average in certain metrics. Half of providers by definition will be bellow average and suffer rate reductions. Already most hospitals survive on 1-2% margins.

  • Ken Shultz||

    I think fewer and fewer people will have access to good employer provided insurance in the future as costs continue to increase. I expect the costs of providing insurance to employees will rise much higher than where the penalty is for not offering insurance...

    Capping profits is an unbelievable stupid part of ObamaCare--saying that you have to spend 85% of what you collect in premiums on coverage. Idiot progressives generally don't understand that the profit motive is what keeps costs down. I'd go so far as to say that the primary reason it always costs more for the government to do anything is becasue they aren't trying to maximize profits.

    Anyway, now that slashing costs (and keeping prices the same) can't really push your profit margin over 15%, you're really talking about pushing the prices for coverage up. Add to that, all the expansion of Medicaid (which providers are already losing money on and gouging insurers to make up for), and there's no reason to think that employer provided insurance is going to be as available in the future as it has been in the past.

  • JWatts||

    Anyway, now that slashing costs (and keeping prices the same) can't really push your profit margin over 15%, you're really talking about pushing the prices for coverage up.

    Precisely this. Now, if an insurance company wants to increase profits, it can't cut costs (other than overhead). Instead, it's incentivised to increase overall spending.

  • LynchPin1477||

    This was probably one of the worst aspects of the law and it got so little coverage.

  • Hyperion||

    Don't get me wrong, I know I am going to feel the pain, I am already feeling it. My coverage costs go up again next year. I don't think I will lose coverage, it's just going to shrink my income some more.

  • JWnTX||

    Believe me--the real goal of Obamacare is to drive private insurers out of business and get us to single payer. They've said it out loud many times. They will squeeze and squeeze private insurers requiring coverage for screenings and treatments and regulating the costs they can pass onto beneficiaries until they just can't make money and leave the business. Then we ALL get to line up down at County and wait our turn.

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    You mean grab our ankles for our daily Gub'ment rape session...

  • Thorbie||

    I have decided to be a Willy Wonka Golden Ticket holder. No, I haven't actually even bought a Wonka bar yet, but I looked carefully down the snack aisle at Rite Aid, looking at various chocolate bars, reading the nutritional facts and checking the weight and heftiness of each bar and I have decided I want one with a Golden Ticket in it. Why do you ask?

  • Dweebston||

    Hah! That's good. You should troll around with that.

  • Dweebston||

    Hah! That's good. You should troll around with that.

  • The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc||

    I kind of feel sorry for this kid if he honestly thinks that Team Obama will come to his aid.

  • Hyperion||

    This is the type of real investigative journalism we need in this country. Could even get tight wads like me to donate to Reason.

    If we could just get this stuff out to a nation wide audience to compete with the MSM, AKA Ministry of Propaganda, maybe it might make a difference to people out there who still have some sort of cognitive thinking ability. Of course it also might mean that Reason writers start mysteriously crashing their Mercedes into trees at 3am.

  • Enough About Palin||

    That Chad fellow comes with rumors that he has fucked some sheep.

  • Sevo||

    And if you were interviewed, you could say you don't believe you were lying.
    Just like Chad!

  • Marc F Cheney||

    Suderman, you are the Winner of the Day.

  • Sevo||

    "He told me that he has indeed not purchased coverage but doesn't believe he was lying."

    Earlier, the story claimed he'd worked for Obo, and after that, this isn't hard to believe.
    Facts? The truth? Who cares? A fake story to promote socialism is all that matters.

  • Pax Libertas||

    This kid has the beginning makings of a functional sociopath, or Social Worker in training. The smiley face, the water carrying "snuggle with Authority" love, the "I love my overlords" vacuous tone to the whole thing, oh and the lying...err...I mean the "miscommunication".

    The Obama Admin is all about this type of Borg mindset though, after all. Hype, selling, marketing, flash, media blitz, viral videos and stories depicting a "hey everyone, you can be part of the cool crowd" vibe.

    Functional sociopaths in training...

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    Don't forget about the free unicorns and trips to the moon the incompetent doucheb*g PresiDEBT promised "voters" (sometimes 8 or 9 times each...)

  • Tomblvd||

    Suderman, you magnificent bastard, I read your post!!!

    Kudos to you and Reason for being out in front of this.

  • Biden's Scroteplugs||

    it gets better, Chad is a paid troll:

    I work for an organization that pays me quarterly to posts (sic) the political stuff as "advocacy"

  • Sevo||

    BS,
    Got a cite for that? I'm hoping it's true, but it's almost too good.

  • BMFPitt||

    Does the other side pay him extra to do it this poorly?

  • Biff7annen||

    Apparently his dad is trying to cover. Tweeted that his son "did not lie or mislead". Wonder if they've been talking to OFA lawyers.

  • Yancey Ward||

    Did anyone ask whether or not this boy was one of the navigators?

  • Sevo||

    The commenters of Mediaite are now claiming it doesn't matter about this guy since 'thousands of others' have signed up.
    Strangely, none of those 'thousands' has yet to be found.

  • Yancey Ward||

    I have tried 10 times to create an account on Healthcare.gov, and have failed every time (and all of those for reasons other than just not getting through to the account creation stage). In fact, in 4 days, I have yet to read a single believable tale of success in even creating an account. The the Post so willingly fell for this kid's story suggests that none of them have found a believable tale of success either.

  • Sevo||

    "The the Post so willingly fell for this kid's story suggests that none of them have found a believable tale of success either."

    Yep, if there were 'thousands', the kid wouldn't have been newsworthy.

  • Sevo||

    Oh, boy!
    Koz is now reporting that if Chad had signed up, Chad would have gotten a subsidy!
    So there!
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....de-Subsidy

  • JWatts||

    Yes, they wrote an entire article without mentioning the quite obvious fact that the story itself was based upon a lie. Classic cognitive dissonance. They are just pretending that he critical facts don't matter.

  • Sevo||

    If we had eggs, we could have ham and eggs if we had ham.

  • JWnTX||

    Another lying Obamabot...I'm shocked! NOT!

  • Carolynp||

    Another OFA nutball takes the credulous media for a ride.

  • wheelock||

    This is so utterly surreal. Media outlets run around in circles to promote a story that highlights a single person who was able to successfully fill in a registration form on a website, and this meant to show what a great success Obamacare will be. W. T. F. And then it turns out to not be true at all! Ha. We are a truly fucked up species...

  • ||

    Chad reminds me of the Way Outs!

    That's where the fun is!

  • Sevo||

    "Despite the glitches, more than 500,000 Californians have visited Covered California in its first couple of days, and hundreds of thousands more across the country, in red states and blue - far more than expected - signed on with the new health insurance marketplaces, a core element of Obamacare."
    Note that there is no claim that a single person was able to complete a transaction, just the claim that they had visited the sites.

    "Which would appear to make notions of "defunding," "delaying" or otherwise ripping out the heart of the 3 1/2-year-old Affordable Care Act quaintly absurd.'
    I'm sure this idiot has no idea what non sequitur means.
    http://www.sfgate.com/business.....867015.php

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    hundreds of thousands more across the country, in red states and blue - far more than expected - signed on with the new health insurance marketplaces, a core element of Obamacare."

    The catch here, and this is why these goobs leave it out, is that you typically have to sign on to the exchanges to see what kind of rates you can get. I wonder how many "signed on" just to see what their rates would be, said "Fuck that shit" when they saw the cost, and bowed out?

  • Sugarsail||

    30% of his pre-tax take home pay and he's fine with it....right. What is he smoking?

  • BMFPitt||

    The fact that they had to find one specific guy who supposedly succeeded in the first place is pretty damning.

  • amelia||

    Recently I finished grad school. Got my MA and am working part-time at the company where I interned. I'm taking the certification exam in January.

    Yesterday we got an email from the director stating that those of us who are not full-time employees must go sign up at the insurance exchange for health coverage. Today, through the grapevine, I found out that they have changed their criteria for full-time work. It is no longer based solely on hours, but also on funding source - 80% of hours must be from the correct source. As it turns out, none of my work is funded from the correct source. So I am as far away from being full-time as if I worked no hours at all (I work about 25-30 per week). Thanks guys, for showing how much you don't value me by not even informing me of the change.

    Yes, I am a parasite at a healthcare-related company that receives most of its funds from the government and the rest from insurance. All I can say it, I'm glad I'm not as naive as the 20-somethings I went to school with, some of whom are now my co-workers. At least I am not surprised by this. And I don't have illusions that it will be better at other companies. I'm sure this is par for the course at this point.

    Also, I know what the insurance exchange is. One person told me she is very confused and asked how it works. I said I don't know if it does work but you can check out the website.

  • Sevo||

    "Thanks guys, for showing how much you don't value me by not even informing me of the change."

    I don't blame you for anger, but if this comment is aimed at your employer, it is misdirected.
    It's an odds-on bet that some of the management folk are also getting bad news, and that bad news is a DIRECT RESULT OF OBAMA, PELOSI and the rest of that stinking crew, not those who really don't want to get blamed for it.

  • amelia||

    I don't know what's happening with management, and I'm trying not to take it severely personally. Nevertheless, their failure to inform me of such a major change is...demotivating. There will be two classes of full-time employees at this place, those who get benefits and those who do not.

    But don't get me wrong, I'm still properly pissed at Obama and Friends.

  • ||

    Get ready for life in the government slow lane, amelia. It's paved with much disappointments.

    "and I'm trying not to take it severely personally"

    Don't. Nothing personal just "fuck you because we say so."

  • ||

    There's another thing at play here if I may offer an opinion.

    I suspect the government knew there was going to problems and collateral damage. But that's the price to pay for this program. Eventually, everyone is gonna get used to the idea of the government involved in health and everyone is gonna love it - like Medicare. I don't know for sure but I get the feeling it was the same thing for Canada - only we did 50 years ago.

    Over time we just got used to it. In fact, people fell in love with the idea to the point it's considered a "Canadian value" to have universal health.

    I get the feeling this is just step one for the USA. In other words, you're fucked.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    Also, I know what the insurance exchange is. One person told me she is very confused and asked how it works. I said I don't know if it does work but you can check out the website.

    I see opportunities for continual undermining here. Every time someone asks about the exchanges, find some way to slag them so people will already come into the actual enrollment process with a hostile attitude. Then every time something doesn't go right, they'll be a lot quicker to abandon the exchange, and when they see the increased deductibles and rates they have to pay, they'll get even more pissed.

  • amelia||

    Oh, I will. I'll also be pointing how it's not at all coincidental that these changes are happening at the same the the Affordable Care Act is kicking in.

    Rufus may well be right that we are all fucked. I don't see why not -- since I got my undergrad in 1988 it's been nothing but economic recession, boom, and bust, so it's only appropriate that the final nail goes in the coffin right when I get a graduate degree.

    I never rode any of the booms either, needless to say.

  • Sevo||

    amelia|10.5.13 @ 10:56PM|#
    ..."I never rode any of the booms either, needless to say."

    Well, I got some good news for you.
    Obama & Co. may well hope to screw up the economy or more likely, they are simple ignoramuses who have no idea WIH they are doing. Having watched and lived through the process for a *very* long time, a (not totally screwed) market has a lot of ruin in it.
    Look around, see where new things are happening. The gov't is notoriously slow; find the areas where the gov't hasn't yet screwed things up. Grab the one you find now, and keep an eye out for the next one.
    You *are* smarter than the idjits in government; make the assholes chase and miss you.
    It is possible.

  • amelia||

    Thank you for the vote of confidence. One of the reasons I went into a credentialed field was because I wanted a clear, portable indicator of my job qualifications. Once I get credentialed and a few years' experience, I could be in a position to practice privately. I think I need to start looking into what that would take.

  • Michael S. Langston||

    Suderman - I wonder if the reason the kid's 175/month is so high, is because he actually signed up as his father, to help is father - and 175/month is with subsidy.

    If someone knew enough - I think this is easily testable :)

  • Michael S. Langston||

    oh & Suderman - Bravo.

  • Peter Bleswick||

    No. Read the whole article.

    "He also said that his father enrolled in separate coverage plan that would cost about $250 a month after factoring in the subsidies for which his father qualified on his approximately $24,000 annual income."

  • Jough||

    I'm sure his father appreciates his son announcing his income to the entire world, not to mention involving him in any political chicanery at all. The behind his back aspect must have made for some particularly interesting dinner table conversation.

  • Peter Bleswick||

    To me, the story isn't so much that the kid lied in order to get his 15 minutes of fame. It's that the media, with its LAYERS AND LAYERS of fact-checkers, saw fit to promote this 21-year-old doofus's fantasy as #FACT.

  • ||

    Peter, I read ESPN sports. With all its resources it still blows my mind how they get basic facts wrong and publish articles with grammar errors. Layers and layers of fact checkers who still get it wrong.

    I don't get it.

    I took a journalism class pre-university and it was incredibly difficult what the professor put us through. It made me understand the importance of reporting by getting the "story straight." There's a massive amount of responsibility not just to the people you report on but on yourself as well. It can literally ruin a life or praise one without reason.

    The basic tenet of journalism was ensuring you get your 5w's down. Make sure you get that down. It was drilled into our brains.

    Yet, it seems every time I read an article it feels as though this sacrosanct tenet is broken or ignored by journalists.

    Lazy, lazy, lazy...and the lack of intellectual curiousity is astonishing.

    I read a kid like Yglesias (and his ilk) and I think about that journalists class and wonder if he'd make it out alive.

  • Martha Cornertrader||

    If I have got the story right, it means Government has resorted to propaganda to make Obamacare popular? If this is true, the matter is serious. In fact, the leading news agencies (The Washington Post, et al) that had published the story of Chad Henderson and made him the posterboy of Obamacare should also be inquired here so that truth comes out. In fact, this should also be looked into whether this was a paid news or not. Let me say frankly, I'm also want Obamacare to be fully functional so that people can get better health care at lesser price. If this incident is true, it is not going to help Obamacare in any way.

  • Sevo||

    "Let me say frankly, I'm also want Obamacare to be fully functional so that people can get better health care at lesser price."

    You seem to be confused. Obamacare will do nothing of the sort, except for selected cases.

  • OsamasPajamas||

    OVERTHROW OHBUMMERCARE

    Where are the Senate Republicans? They are dithering. They are candles in the wind. They flicker in one direction, then another. And there are less kind observations now afoot, across the fruited plain.

    The Republicans cannot find their bums, with both hands and a flashlight.

    They keep their cojones locked in a bank vault --- although if they were valuable to Republicans, you'd think that they'd take them out for a spin, once in awhile, now wouldn't you?

    When asked how best to destroy the Soviet dictatorship, novelist and Nobel Prize winner Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn replied, "Don't lie." The corollary of that injunction is, "Tell the truth."

    This is a gangster government, of Barak Hushpuppy OhBummer, and the OhBummer Wrecking Crew.

    This is a dictatorship. If Republicans fail to smite it a mighty blow, then they are cowardly and worthless.

    For what do we need the Republicans, if they will not fight?

    For the moment, fund everything except OhBummerCare and let the Democrats shut down the government.

    It doesn't matter that the fascist Democrat-captured media will lie and blame the Republicans.

    The Democrats always lie. Lies are the heart and soul and the sword and shield of the Democrat party.

    To the Republicans I say this. "Be a man. Drive a wooden stake through the heart of OhBummerCare.

    "The American people don't want OhBummerCare --- so be a happy warrior --- and kill it."

  • ReasonableS||

    This is Reason.com, please be reasonable.

    Calling the Affordable Care Act demeaning names doesn't help.

    The truth is that the Affordable Care Act is a compromise law between Single Payer and what the Republicans proposed under the Clinton Administration.

    This isn't a dictatorship. If anyone is acting like a dictator it is the Tea Party Republicans and the Speaker of the House who won't let a clean CR to be voted upon.

    The Individual mandate is the worst thing about the Affordable Care Act. I think we can fix that once the law has gone into effect and we start concentrating on making it work better. People should not be compelled to pay private institutions for health care or insurance, but paying the government taxes to provide healthcare is acceptable at least according to the US Supreme Court.

  • cavalier973||

    *If anyone is acting like a dictator it is the Tea Party Republicans and the Speaker of the House who won't let a clean CR to be voted upon.*

    Huh?

    Preventing the implementation of a law that you admit compels people to do something they might rather not do is the same as a dictatorship?

  • Sevo||

    "If anyone is acting like a dictator it is the Tea Party Republicans and the Speaker of the House who won't let a clean CR to be voted upon."

    I notice the new talking point for shitheads like ReasonableS.
    "Clean" means 'an offer that gives the asshole-in-chief everything he and the sleazebags around him want.
    Hey ReasonableS! From where did you suck that up?

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    If anyone is acting like a dictator it is the Tea Party Republicans and the Speaker of the House who won't let a clean CR to be voted upon.

    Power of the purse, bitch. Given how massive the executive branch has grown, it's pretty mendacious of Obama to tell Congress "pay your bills." Maybe we should start with his and Moo-chelle's personal staff.

  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    Amen. That tranny wh*re b*tch has cost the taxpayers WAY too much. F*CK Mooooochelle, On second thought....ick.

    BTW...Reason S....Keep sucking Blowbama's d*ck, you traitorous, disloyal Communist POS.

  • Jough||

    Part-time Child-care worker? I'll do the indoctrinating, thank you.

  • Jough||

    New rule - always capitalize the C in Child-care...

  • space junk||

    The Ministry of Propaganda is working overtime selling the image of Obamacare.

    If it was so great, it would sell itself.

  • Sevo||

    It's so wonderful, people have to be forced to sign up for it!

  • space junk||

    Yeah. This isn't wonderful. It's shared misery with those who cant afford health care. Actually, I suspect some of them can. But, they are worried about buying iPhones first...

    How the fuck are their problems my problems?

    Can I write them off on my taxes?

    Can I at least get them to do some chores around the house?

  • ||

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  • shipley130||

    It's quite a talent to find a person to be the face of Obamacare who didn't actually sign up for Obamacare.

  • ReasonableS||

    Good catch. Reporters need to check their sources before publishing their accounts. What did you do to verify the father's story to make sure you weren't being mislead?

  • Sevo||

    ReasonableS|10.5.13 @ 8:21PM|#
    "Good catch. Reporters need to check their sources before publishing their accounts. What did you do to verify the father's story to make sure you weren't being mislead?"

    Well, dipshit, did you read the story?

  • Sevo||

    I read the MSM finally found someone who managed to sign up, but I've yet to see confirmation. And then the site shut down.
    I'm sure Obama is going to start asking for the slack we cut Edsel soon.

  • ||

    My friend - American - told me tonight that in his circle of friends every single one of them will see premiums shoot up significantly.

    Didn't the administration promise that wasn't gonna happen? But how could they do that since, you know, they had to divert (redistribute) money to others?

  • Sevo||

    Has anyone heard from Chad? Did Chad throw away his phone and tablet? Did Chad die from some disease he caught and couldn't get treatment for since he is a lying POS who didn't sign up for anything?
    Hey, Chad! Where are ya, oh Obamacare hero? You have to be somewhere within signal!
    Oh, and Chad, what about the story that you're paid to troll sites pitching lefty lies? Is that true?

  • ReasonableS||

    You're response is not reasonable. Reporters took him at his word instead of verifying that he did sign-up not that they really could given confidentiality rules. Still they shouldn't have written his story up without some qualifications. Reason did an update on the article where they reported on Washington Post reporter Sarah Kliff confronted Chad Henderson about what his dad said.
    http://reason.com/blog/2013/10.....ad-henders
    He says he has selected a plan, but hasn't purchased it yet.

    As far as the number of people who have successfully signed up for plans I am sure the websites could provide that information. There is a possibility that they might lie, but why would they? They will get caught and they've already admitted that there are serious glitches that are being worked on.

    Instead of making accusations based on insufficient information I would advise that you wait until you have more information before declaring the Affordable Care Act Insurance exchanges a failure. I would advised waiting until at least March. Sign ups only started last week and the insurance doesn't kick in until January 1st.

    Drawing premature conclusions just makes you look biased instead of reasonable.

  • Sevo||

    ..."I would advised waiting until at least March."...

    That's GREAT!
    Folks, ReasonableS will be here all week! Tell your friends and please tip the servers!
    Uh, ReasonableS, why in hell should anyone give a pass to a POS like Obamacare for 6 months? Is this some sort of Edsel rollout?

  • montana mike||

    more agitprop, fuck off progtard

  • ReasonableS||

    Not really giving it a pass. It is a law that is currently being implemented. I was talking about evaluating it's effectiveness and how well it is implemented.

    Right now it isn't being implemented online very well. We've been asked to give it time to get the expected bugs worked out. If you are going to give it an honest evaluation you should give it time. If you aren't going to give it an honest evaluation then I guess time isn't necessary.

    The reason you should give it a chance before drawing conclusions is so you can make an informed decision. The worst part of the Affordable Care Act is the Individual Mandate in my opinion. The Insurance Exchanges which is what this article discusses doesn't seem so bad and I would expect some problems when it first starts up. I would expect a steep learning curve.

    As this article points out though there are a lot of people trying to spin the success of the Exchanges both ways. You are very disrespectful in your attitude towards me and quite dismissive and flippant about the Exchange. Sarah Kiff appears to have been too eager to make the Exchange look like a success and didn't do her job as a journalist as well as she should have. Pragmatic and rational people need to fight the urge to become emotionally involved and attempt to give policies honest evaluations.

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    Honest evaluation of ACA:

    Is it free-market?

    No.

    Does it protect individual rational decision making (could I subscribe to insurance that does not cover shit I will never need, if companies were willing to offer it)?

    No.

    Will health care get better?

    No.

    Will health insurance at least improve or get more affordable?

    No.

    Conclusion: bad.

  • ReasonableS||

    That's not really the type of honesty I was talking about. You are presenting your conclusions based on the truth that you "just know". I meant a sincere attempt to objectively evaluate ACA's effectiveness based on its actual performance. You can't possibly do that until the law has gone into effect for a reasonable period of time. Unless you "show your work", your conclusions could be all guess work or predictions based on "hunches" and other emotionally influenced intuition.

  • Sevo||

    Right:
    "Obamacare sticker shock"
    "Some find Affordable Care Act gives them less affordable options than they had previously."
    "And if he wants a similar Kaiser policy, those added benefits will bump his costs 39 percent higher, from $625 a month to $931 in 2014."
    But he's not complaining, since he's a brain-dead O'bot.
    Go, ahead, read the entire article. "Some" is every single one they found. Really great stuff.
    http://www.sfgate.com/health/a.....872701.php

  • Sevo||

    BTW, there's a point you're ignoring:
    We are being forced into something. It is not up to us to show it is bad, it is up to you to show we should be forced into it.
    So, Reasonable S, let's see it. What value am I getting from this?

  • montana mike||

    It's not emotion, its the certainty that the government can fuck up a wet dream...proven over and over again. If you can't see that there's no hope for you, you are either too stupid to face facts or too biased to care...oh wait, just go back to fluffpost and rejoin the circle jerk.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    We've been asked to give it time to get the expected bugs worked out.

    "Expected bugs"??

    The site acts as a self-inflicted DOS whenever someone signs on. That's a hell of a lot worse than a "bug," that's a functional flaw that they should have anticipated.

    John Wooden used to say, "If you don't take the time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?" The real question is how much it's now going to cost taxpayers to fix what shouldn't have been broke in the first place.

  • Sevo||

    "The real question is how much it's now going to cost taxpayers to fix what shouldn't have been broke in the first place."
    I'm guessing that the costs involved there are miniscule compared to the overall O'care costs.

  • Jayburd||

    How much can u make as a paid troller anyway?

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  • Death Rock and Skull||

    If you really want to be freaked the fuck out, paste the Henderson photo in to an image editor and convert it to negative colors. This should be used in all future posts regarding Henderson.

  • wooffjordy||

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  • Owebama Is A Douchebag||

    TYPICAL lying, Libtard doucheb*g poster CHILD SHILL. Even if this were true (oy...) wow. ONE lousy person successfully signed up for Blowbamacare (Read: The UNaffordable Wealth Scare SCAM). Something the incompetent doucheb*g PresiDEBT Blowbama the wonder turd, and his little d*ck sucking puppet, A$$leen Stubbellius should be SO proud.
    NOT. The ground is crumbling under your feet, you Muslim-in-Chief POS...and its a LONG way to the bottom of the abyss, a$$hole. What is at the bottom you ask? GITMO.

  • JackBurton82||

    The Obama admin does what it always does. Manufactures a story that is so blatantly untrue and rely on the media to report it. Then they say they don't remember that story when it's proven false. And just look at the tweet. "I can't wait for affordable coverage!!" It OOZES of infomercial. Sad sad sad. I tried to argue with people about Obama's corruption and they called me a redneck racist. They also, like usual, couldn't or wouldn't answer factual claims and changed the subject or called me a redneck racist again. Liberal reasoning hard at work. This country is lost.

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  • Joxxxe||

    Chad Henderson tweets from an iPhone running iOS 7 on Verizon. Not too shabby considering his $7000 annual income.

    Just sayin': http://videodexxx.blogspot.com

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