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The Deal with Eric Adams is NOT a "Plea Bargain"
Why the Eric Adams Affair is a Big Deal
In response to my earlier post about the odious and reprehensible Eric Adams deal ("One Step Closer"), several commenters asked why this deal is any different from an ordinary plea bargain deal, in which the government agrees to drop the original charge(s) against a criminal defendant in return for the defendant agreeing to do or not do certain things - e.g., to cooperate with the prosecutors in various related cases, say, or to step down from a managerial role in a certain company, or to stop holding himself out as a financial adviser, etc. The government is agreeing not to prosecute Adams, and Adams is promising to cooperate with federal law-enforcement actions implementing its immigration policies. Why is everyone making such a big deal about it?
It's a very good question, to which there is a very good answer, which can help explain why the DOJ's actions are both unprecedented and chilling.
The Adams deal differs from business as usual in three important ways:
First, in an ordinary plea bargain, there's a plea; that is, the defendant pleads guilty to something that entails lesser punishment than would accompany the original charge. You're indicted for murder, say, but in your plea deal the government agrees only to charge you with negligent homicide, and as part of your plea agreement you enter a plea of "Guilty" to that lesser charge.
Here, though, Adams has not entered any plea (other than his original "Not guilty" plea). The government is simply going to ask the judge to dismiss the corruption charges against him, without requiring him to admit any guilt at all.
Second: More importantly, in an ordinary plea deal, the court is asked to dismiss the original charges with prejudice. This means that after the prosecutor drops the murder charge against you, that charge cannot be re-instated at a later date. You can be prosecuted later if you violate the terms of the plea deal; that is, if you promise as part of the deal to cooperate with prosecutors in related cases against your co-defendants but then refuse to do so, you can be prosecuted for that. But the murder charge can't be revived once it has been dismissed.
Here, the DOJ is asking the judge to dismiss the criminal charges against Adams without prejudice. That means that the original charges against Adams will be hanging over his head, and if he does not comply with the terms of the agreement, the prosecutors can re-institute the original corruption charges against Adams if it wants to.
Adams has, apparently, agreed to cooperate with federal ICE agents in a specific way - to allow ICE agents to interview detainees at the Rikers Island Detention Center.
Next week the Attorney General tells him: "ICE would like to have access to New York City high schools as well. And all their personnel records. And tax records for all personnel." And she reminds him - gently - that if he doesn't cooperate, they will reinstate the corruption charges against him.
You're not nervous yet?
And third: the quid pro quo requires Adams to take certain steps in his official capacity as Mayor of New York. The City of New York is not a defendant in the original action; only Eric Adams is, in his individual capacity. Adams is supposed to make official decisions based on his assessment, right or wrong, about the needs of the people of New York - not on the basis of whether it keeps his ass out of jail.
Still not nervous?
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‘He Who Saves His Country Does Not Violate Any Law’
Right?
AKA The Fuehrer Upgolds the Law.
Trump is saying he is saving his coumtry from exactly the same things Hitler said he was saving his country from - liberals and people of non-Aryan race.
Right now, we’re pretty much the richest, freest, and most secure people on earth. What, exactly, is he saving us from?
He’s saving us from being ruled by people other than him. But as I said above, he’s saving us from liberals and non-Aryans, same as Hitler. Isn’t liberty, prosperity, and security boring as hell?
The Adams situation is more like a deferred prosecution agreement than a plea deal.
I guess it’s very slightly more like that, but it’s certainly not like it.
Please expand on that for the class.
In a pretrial diversion or deferred prosecution agreement, the charges remain (and in most cases, the defendant admits to them) while the defendant agreees, in court, to perform certain obligations, which are usually connected to their rehabilitation (like completing drug treatment or paying restitution). If the defendant is successful, only then does the charge get reduced or dismissed.
The DOJ policy on pretrial diversion is here (you’ll note of course that this course of action doesn’t comply with any of it): https://www.justice.gov/jm/jm-9-22000-pretrial-diversion-program
Massachusetts has Continued Without a Finding -- same thing?
The distinction between the charges "remaining," i.e., not being dismissed for the time being, and the charges being dismissed without prejudice is certainly a subtle one. Can you explain why that makes a difference?
I may be reading Nosci wrong but I think what makes this different is the conditions and how Adam completes them.
According the link, pretrial diversion conditions are supposed to:
The major objectives of pretrial diversion are:
To prevent future criminal activity and promote rehabilitation among certain offenders by diverting them from traditional processing into community supervision and services, including, as appropriate, mental health and substance abuse treatment.
To conserve prosecutive and judicial resources.
To provide, where appropriate, a vehicle for restitution to affected communities and victims of crime.
So point one is that the condition we think was unofficially imposed - open Rikers to ICE - isn't really about any of that.
Point two is that the conditions aren't supposed to be secret or implicit. They're written down.
Point three is that in normal pretrial diversion you complete the written checklist and then it's over. Here, one fears, it's an open-ended commitment to let the DoJ set NYC municipal policy. Why would we fear that? Because we haven't seen the written checklist of things, selected from the quoted section above, that would get him off the hook.
It means that the case remains before the court, the agreement is filed in court, the terms of the agreement are public and know to both parties, and ultimately it’s the court responsible for supervising the defendant and determining whether the agreement has been fulfilled or not.
What deferred prosecution agreement requires official actions as a condition?
The ones which will be taking place routinely in the Trumperverse.
The demand for official action is still improper, but the comparison should be to a deferred prosecution agreement with an illegal condition rather than a plea bargain with an illegal condition.
Maybe you should direct that comment at the Trump supporter making the comparison, then?
Does "payback is a motherfucker" connect things up?
Not really. Who’s getting paid back, and for what?
Do I have to draw you a Diaphragm? The DemoKKKrats, for all the Bullshit "34 Felonies etc etc of the last 4 years, and it's not really a "Pay Back" it's more like that rat turd that the cook puts in your Salad when you send it back, Bon Appetit!!!!
So you're saying that Biden should have told Trump he'd drop all the charges if Trump dropped out of the race?
Then how is this different from a non-prosecution agreement?
The fact that the government isn’t agreeing not to prosecute him.
It is right now. Just not forever.
Seems a big difference.
No, not really.
Incorrect. It's not agreeing to anything. (Indeed, Bove's letter blusteringly denies the existence of a quid pro quo at all.)
As Josh Marshall noted, assuming dismissal without prejudice remains the arrangement Trump holds Adams’ freedom in his hands. Adams has to do whatever Trump says.
This leverage is the point, because if Trump truly believed Adams was being railroaded he would just pardon him. He’s not doing that because - no threat, no leverage.
With no will of his own, Adams can’t serve effectively as mayor. If he won’t resign the governor should remove him (state law allows her to do that).
"If he won’t resign the governor should remove him (state law allows her to do that)."
I don't think she wants to.
Couldn't Bondi go after her (personally) with "under color of law"?
Go after her for what?
Yeah, I need you to unpack that. What’s the theory under which invoking the governor’s authority to remove the mayor is a crime?
What if she removed him for being Black?
Same thing here -- he has a civil right to cooperate with the feds for any lawful purpose.
He does not. There is no "civil right" for a government official to undertake official acts.
Trump has pardoned thousands since he took office a few weeks ago. I’m not aware of anyone he pardoned who hadn’t already been convicted.
All the Jan 6th defendants who hadn’t been tried yet he ordered the charges dismissed. Although I will concede the charges were dismissed with prejudice for the J6 defendants.
But it hardly seems out of the question to requesting someone cooperate fully with federal law enforcement to get their charges conditionally dismissed.
If we ship out thousands of illegal aliens from Rikers, fine.
" "ICE would like to have access to New York City high schools as well. And all their personnel records. And tax records for all personnel."
How is this different from BankArussia giving Meritless Garland a list of everyone who was in DC on Jan 6th???
"Adams is supposed to make official decisions based on his assessment, right or wrong, about the needs of the people of New York - not on the basis of whether it keeps his ass out of jail."
Do you honestly believe this is the first time the Feds have done something like this?
And don't the Feds ALREADY have all the tax records???
I’m not aware of any other examples. Which are thinking of?
I appreciate the discussion why numerous conservatives, including those who support Trump in various ways, are quite nervous.
Yeah, it’s a very small step from this to Trump directly ordering prosecutions of his enemies. Which, in any event, he promised to do while campaigning.
So it's a step back from the Biden regime only with the State parasites in the cross hairs instead of the American people?
Yes.
Is this a "J6 Hostages" argument of some kind? Just checking!
It's very (D)ifferent. Just ask the law professors here who, with regard to the treatment of the January 6th defendants, finally found some law enforcement brutality and prosecution-overcharging that they could get behind and support.
Let’s assume arguendo that the January 6th defendants were subjected to “law enforcement brutality and prosecution-overcharging”.
Why would that make it right for Trump to do this?
Why WOULDN'T it?
Why would it?
They did an attempted coup. That is serious and I think they were undercharged.
More importantly, Trump escaped charges and actually ended up getting rewarded politically and personally.
Post's posts can be quite overheated at times.
This is not one of those times.
The official capacity issue gives everything away. This is not a plea bargain. This is political corruption. Trump is saying he will withold prosecution as long as you, acting in your official capacity as Mayor of New York, keep kissing my ass and doing what I want you to do, running New York as I want you to run it.
I do not not think a judge should dismiss the charges under these facts.
It's pretty damning stuff
Tell me. If the President says to Senator Dimbleweed :
"Sorry Ebenezer, but if you vote no on the Josh Blackman nomination I can't see how I can do other than back Dan Frothface in your primary next year. At least he'll support my program."
Is that "political corruption ?" Or business as usual ?
That is, unfortunately, business as usual.
Here is political corruption: "Senator, I have had the FBI, SEC, IRS, et al take a really close look at you, and we think we can charge you with -whatever-. I haven't decided whether we will, though, but I'm going to be watching your votes, and if you don't toe the line, it will be perp walk time for you. I'm glad I can count on your support going forward".
Is that a power you want Hillary or Kamala or AOC to have?
The point I am making is that Reader Y's assertion that the "official capacity" thing is decisive, is wrong.
Senator Dimbleweed is being offered a personal benefit - no serious primary oppo - in exchange for an official act.
You say "unfortunately" and I agree, in Utopia we would regret it. But on Earth, we know that politics as it is done could not possibly continue without horsetrading. merely because what is induced is an act done in an "official capacity" - it is not a slam dunk.
You're grasping the wrong end of the stick.
Trump threatening to back another MAGAloid in a primary is not equivalent to his threatening to sic the DoJ on someone.
And you're missing the point. This bit of the discussion is about who the threatened person is, not what the threat is.
Obama & Eric Holder DIDN'T???
Correct.
Your scenario is an ask of an non-compromised person. However like Post said, Adams is being threatened that unless he uses his position to advance policy favors, Trump will use the power of the state. This is just plain intimidation and corruption.
Of course, none of us would be talking about this had Adams not committed crimes and put himself into this position of compromat. The question is whether he will man up or will he become Trump's hostage/bitch. No one in New York City - reps and dems - will trust him after this no matter what he does
As mentioned above to Absaroka, my point was simply that yelping "officlal capacity !" does not resolve the question.
The question of whether and when it is acceptable for law enforcement to offer inducements to suspects to get their co-operation for other law enforcement efforts, is a different question addressed elsewhere.
Not nervous at all. Blue states will obstruct Trump at every stage, in order to further their perverted, anti-American goals. Any stick Trump's DOJ can use is a good thing.
As I understand it, the features that David Post objects to are three :
(1) any kind of understanding, or even mutual assumption, whereby someone at risk of criminal penalty agrees to do something entirely legal for law enforcement in return for the hope of light or no sanction, unless it is a formal “plea deal”
(2) any such arrangement which leaves the someone at continuing legal risk until the something has been delivered
(3) any something which involves the someone doing something in his “official capacity” (which is within the someone’s lawful authority)
So let’s do a hypo.
Mr Big runs his vast criminal enterprise from the premises of Acme Hardware Corp. Bugsy is employed by Acme as Mr Big’s right hand man, and driver. The cops want Bugsy to lure Mr Big to a meeting at 435 E 21st Street, so that they can arrest him with minimum danger to themselves and the public from flying bullets. The deal, entirely unofficial, no paperwork and long before any charges are filed against Bugsy, is simply that the cops and the DA will go easy on Bugsy. So long as Bugsy co-operates in the safe capture of Mr Big. So Bugsy tells Mr Big that the meeting with the heroin suppliers has been arranged for 2.30pm Thursday at the specified address and he drives Mr Big there. Arranging meetings and driving being entirely within Bugsy's normal employment duties, and therefore in his “official capacity” as an ACME employee charged with booking meetings for Mr Big and driving him about.
Which of David Post’s horror factors do we have here ?
1. OMG it’s not an official plea deal ! It’s an understanding that charges will not be brought, or will be light when brought. An unprecedented scandal obviously.
2. Until Bugsy has done his something, he’s still on the hook. OM Double G ! Nothing like this has ever been tried by any cop or DA in the history of the Republic !
3. Bugsy is being asked to perform a couple of his official duties – arranging meetings and driving … in the interests of the cops. Again staggeringly unprecedented. Never happened before.
Of course there are innumerable variants where these features can occur singly. They do not all have to be packaged into one hypo. For example even a sacred plea deal can have conditions, like giving evidence against the other members of the gang, thereby violating the second of DP’s horrors.
The smell of burning hair is becoming disagreeable.
Um. What you describe is quid pro quo.
Mr. Bove wrote that there was no qid pro quo.
You imply that nabbing some illegal immigrants is more important than addressing corruption. I guess that is one point of view.
1. indeed
2. so what ? Post insists there is one and makes his criticism based on that assumption. I'm accepting his stipulation for the sake of argument. Don't fight the hypo.
3. it is indeed a point of view, which the law enforcement authorities are entirely free to make. Law enforcement priorities may change from one administration to the next. That's what elections are for.
Deferring one prosecution seems a very cheap price for nabbing and ejecting lots of illegal immigrants. Within the hypo of course.
2. then Mr. Bove is lying? It's not a problem for you to support the#2 person at DOJ when you know he is a liar.
I can understand you arguing that we should not support someone you think is lying.
Very Machiavellian of you
You are obviously unfamiliar with these ideas :
- stipulating for the purposes of argument
- hypotheticals
Come back when you feel you have grasped the concepts.
Ok, then. Your argument is that there is no quid pro quo, and that is OK. And even if there is a quid pro quo, that is OK.
But why? Mr. Bove said there was none. The only other option seems to be... what, exactly? There seems to be little merit for what he is doing. If he thinks the prosecution is bogus, should he not have asked for dismissal with prejudice?
I'm simply addressing Post's argument which is based on assuming that there's a quid pro quo, and explaining why even if there is, this kind of quid pro quo seems entirely normal and not remotely unprecented, as the flaming-haired Post insists.
Elsewhere in other threads I have addressed the question of whether there could be any conceivable justification for withdrawing charges without prejudice, other than a quid pro quo. Concluding that there obviously is.
I have not yet deigned to favor VC readers with my opinions on what a "quid pro quo" is; and whether things falling short of a formal explicit agreement - such as nods and winks, mutual understandings, inducing a party to assume, or merely hope for, something without actually speaking to him, failing to correct a party's misconceptions about what the future may hold, and so on - do, or do not, amount to "quid pro quos."
I feel the board will be grateful if I continue to hold fire on that one.
So I am not voting "quid pro quo" or "not quid pro quo" here. All I would venture is that I would be very surprised indeed if there were a formal written agreement. Which is not to say that I am restricting "quid pro quo" to written agreements.
This entertainting tale is instructive on the definitional question of the quid pro quo, I think :
https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/06/hillary-clinton-cattle-futures-windfall/
You've been tapdancing furiously, and it's tiresome.
1. Is this deal OK, or is it an abuse of power?
2. If you don't have enough facts, what other facts would you need?
The rest of this is just various proportions of smoke screens and mental masturbation.
One man's sticking to the point raised in the OP is another man's tapdancing, it would appear.
May I ask - I am right in thinking you were, and relished, the position of class monitor in school ?
My opinion that there's no problem with this whether there's a quid quo pro or not, or something in between has already been given at tedious length in this family of posts. If you didn't know it you haven't been paying attention.
As for additional facts - if we learned that Eric had slipped Mr Bove a couple of grand under the table - I would disapprove.
Sarcastr0 was the classroom snitch.
Yes, it is hard to understand Post's objection.
Not for intelligent people.
You aren’t defending the argument that Post is countering, which is fine, but explains why Post didn’t address your hypo in his post.
> 1. OMG it’s not an official plea deal ! It’s an understanding that charges will not be brought, or will be light when brought. An unprecedented scandal obviously.
In your scenario, Bugsy gets an unenforceable agreement for the DA to “go easy” on Bugsy. That might (or might not) translate into the DA offering a somewhat better plea deal to Bugsy. Because Bugsy is the “right hand man” of the head of a “vast criminal enterprise,” he is going to do jail time, and have a criminal conviction on his record.
This is, as Post notes, different from the Adams case.
> 2. Until Bugsy has done his something, he’s still on the hook. OM Double G ! Nothing like this has ever been tried by any cop or DA in the history of the Republic !
Yes, but in your scenario, Bugsy will presumably be arrested right after Mr. Big. The concern raised by Post is that the government will make additional demands beyond the initial ask, and that doesn’t seem likely in your scenario.
> 3. Bugsy is being asked to perform a couple of his official duties – arranging meetings and driving … in the interests of the cops. Again staggeringly unprecedented. Never happened before.
Post is probably using the term “official” to mean a person who holds a position of authority in a government. Since Bugsy does not hold such a position, he has no official duties. But he does have duties, so that’s not the central issue.
What is the central issue is that society has an interest in government officials carrying out their duties faithfully, and an interest in employees of criminal enterprises NOT carrying out their duties faithfully. When we catch employees of a criminal enterprise faithfully performing their duties, we send them to jail.
The hypothetical does not correspond. If Bugsy had a separate legitimate job and was caught doing criminal things outside that, and the DA used the threat of prosecution to get Bugsy to rip off his legitimate employer's legitimate business and bring the DA the stolen money, that would be a more accurate analog. Adams is being coerced, and possibly to do things that violate New York City's sanctuary laws.
As noted below at 3. I think it is the other way round. Bugsy is arguably acting outside his employment authority - he is not hired to arrange fake meetings.
Whereas Adams is not. Giving access to the Feds to various NYC facilities is within his authority, and it's certainly nothing to do with any office or employment other than Mayor.
Unless he is breaking NY law. In which case NY can charge him. The Feds can't immunize him or pardon him for that.
You evidently think a lot of incorrect things. Your hypothetical has Bugsy doublecrossing his criminal confederate; not much worse than wearing a wire or testifying against him, but Mr. Big might be able to offer a defense that he was entrapped if Bugsy persuades him to undertake some criminal scheme that he never contemplated. Adams is being coerced to ignore New York City law, and there does not seem to be a limit as to what other actions he might be pressed to take against the interests of his constituents.
Bugsy is Mr Big's employee - he is employed to do the job Mr Big has given him.
As I say, if you are correct Adams is acting contrary to NY law, then NY can indict him.
You really would say anything to promote your cult! By your analogy, Mr. Big can indict Bugsy, or at least sue him to recover his pay. But the analogy only works to justify this if the DOJ is getting Eric Adams to do something that will get them an indictment of someone else, not commit a crime that is in the administration's interest.
I don't think Mr Big can indict anyone. I don't know how easy it is for employers to sue employees for breaches of duty. I presume quite hard, but not impossible. So if Mr Big is in the inventing business, and Bugsy using the opportunities provided by his employment sells a Mr Big invention to a competitior, or even gives it to a competitor out of spite, I should imagine that Mr Big could have a go at suing Bugsy. Maybe Mr Big could do so in the hypo. Who knows ?
You're obviously pretty fixated on the notion that Adams doing what you imagine he's made a deal to do - eg letting the Feds into Ryker's Island - is illegal.
I don't think the Feds should be inciting folk to commit crimes. But we will have to wait and see if you are correct. I suspect not.
the analogy only works to justify this if the DOJ is getting Eric Adams to do something that will get them an indictment of someone else
Nearly right. I don't think an indictment of someone else is necessary. An indictment is one of several different law enforcement objectives the Feds can legitimately pursue. In my hypo, the objective has actually an arrest rather than an indictment. Though an indictment might follow.
Deporting illegal immigrants is also a legitimate objective even if it involves no indictment. But you get the general drift. It's OK for the Feds to encourage suspects to assist them in the pursuit of legitimate law enforcement objectives, but without encouraging law breaking.
1. You’re fighting the hypo. Bugsy may get jail time. Or he may not even be charged. Adams ditto (ie charged second time round.) Nor is there any difference in principle between Bugsy getting a sweet deal with little jail time, and getting off scot free. It’s still law enforcement offering a personal benefit in exchange for assistance with law enforcement.
2. Again I think you’re making a distinction without a difference. Why should the task required of Adams not be “assistance to ICE until such and such a target of collections and deportations is reached ?” It doesn’t have to be limited to one task. Likewise Bugsy may be invited to set up the meeting AND give evidence. It’s the same thing, Bugsy is not off the hook until he has done the needful, whatever the needful is. Ditto Adams.
3. I appreciate that. It is not an analogy if you regard putting the squeeze on (or off) a public official to assist with law enforcement as wicked, but doing the same thing to an employee of a private organization as just peachy. I’m just not that much of a statist. I can see that the law might choose to establish a distinction based on raison d’etat, but ethically I see no difference. If there is a distinction, to my mind it favors the Adams squeeze over the Bugsy squeeze. The latter consists of squeezing Adams to do things that he is unquestionably authorized to do, and might choose to do anyway. Whereas Bugsy is unmistakably engaged in a breach of faith – he may have the job of setting up meetings, but he’s setting up a fake meeting not a real one.
(For the avoidance of doubt, we are remaining firmly within Post’s hypo that Adams has agreed to a deal.)
But congratulations for engaging with the argument rather than just going "Waaaah !"
Lee Moore: 3. Bugsy is being asked to perform a couple of his official duties – arranging meetings and driving … in the interests of the cops. Again staggeringly unprecedented. Never happened before.
Incorrect. Bugsy is NOT being asked to perform "official duties" because he has no "official duties" as I'm using the term - he's not a public official. Eric Adams is a public official, and his quid pro quo concerns actions he promises to take AS MAYOR OF NEW YORK.
Thank you.
I look forward to your coming post, refuting Josh's argument in his post immediately after yours, which argues that there's nothing special about elected officials, and that the DoJ is not a virgin when it comes to cajoling elected officials into co-operating.
But in your post, I do hope you will cover the related non-legal, purely ethical, point. As to why it is inherently more sinful for the law enforcement authorities to cajole, with pressure or the withdrawal thereof, an elected official to co-operate; than to so cajole an employee of a private concern ? In each case to further a legitimate law enforcement objective.
And holding the correctness of the act cajoled equal in the two cases - ie if the act is something that the elected official is authorized to do and not obviously contrary to the polity's interests, though it might be other than what he might choose to do absent the cajoling; then you need a corresponding act for the private employee. Whereas if you pick an act that is within the official's authority but clearly contrary to the polity's interests and would not otherwise have been done, then ditto for the private employee.
It's obvious from your posts that you are not merely trying to make cold legal points, but are offended by the sin. So whatever the law says, I look forward to your views on the matter of sin.
Your hypo is nonsense:
The intersection of "official duties" as a minimal impact on Acme's operations. And your description implies that Acme might be a criminal enterprise itself.
In reality the City of NY, which has done nothing wrong, is now going to undertake a political policy it doesn't want, because the Mayor knows he'll be thrown in prison otherwise.
Here's a different hypothetical. The AG of Texas is charged with corruption. The feds promise not to prosecute him as long as he agrees to vigorously enforce state laws against voter suppression.
What legitimate federal law enforcement interest do the Feds have in inducing him vigorously to enforce state laws against voter suppression ?
Trump supporters who don't mind his administration breaking the rules, especially to go after their preferred enemies, will not be "nervous."
This isn't all of the supporters, who support him for various purposes. But those who question why Ed Whelan is concerned are not going to be too "nervous."
They supported him for this sort of thing, roughly speaking. It's also why those against him (who aren't too surprised at all) felt him dangerous. It was not "deranged." It was quite A+B=C.
Agreed. Nothing he does will make Trump supporters "nervous".
This sort of perversion, corruption and cruelty is exactly what they voted for.
Until the leopard eats their face.
Those defending this have undoubtedly considered the possibility of Trump "deferring" charges for legislators and judges if they vote/rule in his administrations favor, and decided they would prefer that to constitutional democracy. This isn't the sort of genie that goes back into the bottle.
No surprise that Post would like the republic to function, Blackman is happy with it broken if he's in the privileged class, and Volokh just can't decide without more facts. Darn those sneaky facts.
All of this is moot unless and until Adams acts officially due to coercion. If that can be proven then how would this be different from extortion?
The problem for a prosecutor would be to prove that Adams's act(s) result from coercion. I don't see how that would be possible.
Hasn't he already acted officially by granting ICE access to Riker's Island?
Federal prosecutors aren't going to be trying to prove that Adams' act resulted from coercion because federal prosecutors coerced him.
Defense attorneys in New York courts would have a motive. Official action was taken against my client because the Mayor was improperly putting his personal interest above his job. But what official enforcement action is being taken by the city? All he's doing is opening the doors to let federal agents do their job.
"He who saves his Country does not violate any Law."
Drewski: Those defending this have undoubtedly considered the possibility of Trump "deferring" charges for legislators and judges if they vote/rule in his administrations favor, and decided they would prefer that to constitutional democracy.
Nicely put. How would those who are defending Trump's actions here - Lee Moore, DixieTune, Frank Drackman, others [Where's Bob from Ohio??!] - feel about an arrangement exactly like Adams' but involving, say, a Supreme Court Justice?
"Justice Barrett, we've uncovered serious wrongdoing on your part, and we have prepared a criminal tax fraud claim against you. But we're holding off - keeping it open. In return, we'd like you to vote in the President's favor when the case of the constitutionality of XYZ comes before the Court. We're watching you."
Either you think "Sure - nothing wrong with that" (in which case I'm not sure further discussion is going to get us anywhere), or you need to explain to us all why that's different than the Adams scenario.
Professor Post, maybe you can tell me.
What happens if the judge says, 'NFW, I am not dismissing the charges b/c I don't accept the govt's representations'?
Or
Governor Hochul removes Mayor Adams from his mayoralty?
As I said earlier, there is no clear answer. I think it is highly doubtful that the Supreme Court would uphold the appointment of a special prosecutor. (In Young v. United States ex rel. Vuitton et Fils, 481 U.S. 787 (1987), the Court upheld the practice in contempt of court proceedings, but it was controversial at the time, relied heavily on the special nature of contempt proceedings, and is out of sync with modern separation of powers and appointments clause jurisprudence. Although the situation is bad enough that it could prompt some justices to rethink things.)
The most likely outcome, in my opinion, is that the court will refuse to grant dismissal without prejudice: while that would not exactly fix the problem, it would at least somewhat ameliorate the most objectionable part of this arrangement.
I have trouble seeing why Gov. Hochul’s removal decision would be affected by this in any way.
Thank you Professor Hypothetical.
Would you care to take a stab at answering it?
I really wish one you you esteemed law professors would take a stab at answering it. Best I got thusfar; the judge appoints a special counsel to prosecute the case.
Have you ever heard of that happening?
I’m talking about Prof. Post’s hypothetical (which you’re free to answer too!). I answer yours when you first asked it a couple of days ago.
I would explain the difference as follows. (All hypothetically, naturally.)
In Adams’ case – say letting the Feds in Ryker’s Island, the act demanded is legitimate. It is something that Adams is authorized to do, and he might choose to do it anyway without any cajoling from the Feds. It falls within his discretion. As to the exercise of his discretion, he will take, and we could not possibly forbid him taking, into account politics and his own personal interests. Will this lose us a couple of marginal councilors ? Are crowds of rioters going to assemble outside my house ? What about political contributions ? Will it affect my own re-election ? Politicians believe that they are the best person to run the thing they run – narcissistic perhaps, but universal.
So Adams doing the act demanded is only sinful if it is clearly against the interests of New York City (always assuming he has the authority to do it.) He has discretion about his executive acts. So long as the Feds ask him to do something that is not obviously against NYC’s interests that’s OK. It’s an act within his discretion, it’s an act he might do anyway, and it is perfectly normal and lawful for politicians to consider personal and political objectives when using their discretion (lawfully.) That’s what voters are for – they police that, not the courts.
Always provided that the act demanded is to further a legitimate law enforcement objective. (As mentioned elsewhere things like national defense are OK too.)
Barrett is different.
First she has NO discretion. She is obliged to produce an opinion that reflects her best view of the law and the facts. Delivering an opinion that reflects something that she does not believe is correct in law, is breach of her duty as a judge. That doesn't mean that different judges might not honestly happen upon different conclusions, but each is individually obliged to reach the conclusion that they think is correct in law.
Now I know that some cynics say that judges, particularly ones whose names begin with R, often have an eye to the crowd when they rule, and are influenced by cheers and boos as well as their analysis of the law and the facts. But that, if true, just means we have some unethical judges. This sort of thing is a clear foul. Whereas an elected official with his ear to the crowd is entitled to pay attention to the crowd.
Second, SCOTUS Justices do not have any legitimate political interests. Period.
Third, what sort of ruling could a SCOTUS Justice make that advances legitimate law enforcement objectives ? Legitimate law enforcement interests are confined to enforcing the law as it is (ie as defined by the legislature and the courts) using the methods permitted by the law as it is.
Getting a judge to rule in a way contrary to the judge’s conclusion of what the law is, is not – by definition – a legitimate law enforcement interest.
Why would I be nervous? I quite literally voted for this.
Indeed.
One largely unremarked angle is Trump’s claim not to have any involvement in or knowledge of this decision.
1. Does anyone actually believe that?
2. If that is true, isn’t that also a big problem?
Yes.
No.
I'm a Truman fan; the buck stops in the Oval Office. You hire people, you own their mistakes. If he wants to correct this mistake, he can admonish the AG and reverse the decision.
I believe that Trump knows that Eric Adams approached him with an offer of a bribe, and that Trump told his henchmen, "That sounds great. See how you can make it happen." I doubt Trump has any idea of the details of how they chose to implement this order, because Trump is famously anti-detail-oriented and uncurious.
I don't think it's a big problem that he didn't originally know; a president can't micromanage. He has to hire people he trusts and rely on them get things done. (Who Trump relies upon, of course, is a separate issue.) But once it blew up to the point where the press were asking Trump about it, the fact that he didn't know was a big problem, yes.
Having served as a District Attorney for Twenty two years in my district and as a Pro Temp DA in several other districts I believe that a plea to testify or assist another government agency in return for not charging is valid.
Prosecuting authorities have wide discretion to seek assistance from an individual, particularly from a public official with authority to assist the government.
So what if it isn't a plea deal? Prosecutors make mutual help deals with people who *could* be prosecuted all the time. They are called informants. Big Fat Deal.
I would be concerned if a deal were made in order to effectively punish rightful conduct. But I see none of that here. Adams is legitimately open to being charged for aiding illegal immigration.