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Short Circuit: A Roundup of Recent Federal Court Decisions
Heated depositions, wellness checks, and strip searches.
Please enjoy the latest edition of Short Circuit, a weekly feature written by a bunch of people at the Institute for Justice.
New cert petition! In 2013, a Clovis, Calif. officer disclosed to a fellow officer that his girlfriend had filed a confidential domestic violence complaint against him—knowing full well that she was trapped in a room with him at that very moment. He then brutally attacked her. And though the Ninth Circuit ruled earlier this year that it was "obvious" that disclosing the report put her in grave danger, it granted the first officer qualified immunity anyway, finding that no factually identical prior case gave the officer fair notice the disclosure was unconstitutional. The decision reinforces a circuit split and also conflicts with Supreme Court precedent that says a factually identical case is not necessary in situations where an official has time and opportunity to deliberate (as opposed to a split-second decision on the use of force). Today, IJ asked the Supreme Court to weigh in.
Is school choice racist? Did it originate with post-Brown v. Board opposition to public school integration? Shameful mistruths! IJ Senior Attorney Michael Bindas takes to the Syracuse Law Review and sets the record straight.
Over at the Advisory Opinions podcast, IJ's Anthony Sanders indicts Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., who turns out to have been a bit of a bad egg Constitution-wise.
- The USDA goes after Amazon for allegedly aiding and abetting violations of the Plant Protection Act and the Animal Health Protection Act because importers of illegal plant and animal products had them delivered through Amazon fulfillment centers. An ALJ agrees and fines the company $1 mil. D.C. Circuit: But SCOTUS has told us that aiding-and-abetting liability requires culpability. As for USDA's argument that its strict-liability reading of the statute is entitled to Chevron deference . . .
- Fun fact: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals once operated a blog called "The PETA Files," a name that apparently no one on their staff ever read out loud. But that's not the limit of their online presence—they also like commenting on the Facebook and Instagram pages of the National Institutes of Health. Seeking to moderate "off-topic" comments, NIH deploys a keyword filter, concealing comments containing words like "PETA," "cruelty," and "torture." PETA sues, alleging the filter policy violates the First Amendment. D.C. Circuit: And it does. NIH can exercise some moderation, but it has to draw reasonable lines, which the filter policy does not.
- The DFINITY Foundation is a Swiss-based nonprofit that develops technology that enables the Internet Computer blockchain and its ecosystems, which are powered by novel "chain-key cryptography," allowing smart contracts to serve web directly to end users and mass market Web3 services to run entirely on-chain, all while being governed by a protocol-integrated DAO that decides using liquid democracy. Your summarist doesn't know what any of that means, but can confirm that the Second Circuit has rejected the Foundation's defamation lawsuit against financial analysts who speculated as to why the Foundation's cryptocurrency token lost 95% of its value within two months of its release.
- North Carolina officer attempts to stop an allegedly stolen car, eventually blocking it into a dead-end section of a parking lot. Officer leaves his car while the driver of the stolen car tries to turn around and drive away. The officer fires one shot through the windshield and more shots through the passenger window, killing the driver. His estate sues for excessive force. District court: Dismissed; the claims in plaintiff's complaint are contradicted by bodycam footage. Fourth Circuit: They're not blatantly contradicted, and that's what it takes for video to torpedo an otherwise valid complaint. Case un-dismissed.
- West Virginia officer seeks to stop motorcyclist whose passenger isn't wearing a helmet. The motorcyclist flees! But police soon have the pair (plus the motorcyclist's girlfriend) surrounded in their house. Was it a clearly established constitutional violation for officers to (allegedly) force their way into the home? Fourth Circuit: Indeed, the warrantless entry claim goes forward. But it was not excessive force to shoot the motorcyclist dead after he jumped out a window and pulled an AR-15 on an officer. Partial dissent: The officers should also have gotten QI for shooting the unarmed girlfriend, who jumped out after him.
- Fifth Circuit: Do these tanker-truck drivers transport property in "interstate or foreign commerce" even though they only move crude oil inside Texas? Our precedent—which we very pointedly do not say is correct—requires us to say the answer is yes. Judge Oldham, concurring: And let's have a quick word about how bonkers that precedent is.
- Allegation: After three youths driving in New Orleans ask an officer for his help in looking for a lost chihuahua, the officer gets a funny feeling and—along with another officer—tails the youths and orders them out of the car at gunpoint. Everything being in order, they're permitted to leave. Unreasonable seizure? Excessive force? Might be, says the Fifth Circuit, reversing the lower court's judgment in favor of the officers. Sadly, however, the panel also notes that it is unable to grapple with plaintiff's argument that qualified immunity sits on a throne of lies—only the Supreme Court can do that.
- In 2021, Galveston County, Tex. officials redraw voting maps and eliminate the sole majority-minority district, where a combination of Black and Hispanic voters had outnumbered white voters. Fifth Circuit (en banc, 12-6): We overrule our precedent that had allowed coalitions of different minorities to bring voter dilution claims under Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act.
- A fleet of airlines challenge a proposed DOT rule regulating how they disclose fees during the booking process and seek a stay while their challenge goes forward. DOT: Surely you can't be serious? Fifth Circuit: Don't call me Shirley. And if Congress had wanted to allow rulemaking in this area they would have said something about it. Stay granted.
- Is the Rio Grande "navigable"? The en banc Fifth Circuit splits on this subject as it applies to a 1,000 foot stretch where Texas' governor installed some tethered buoys. The majority reverses a preliminary injunction but the full trial is still upriver. And one concurring judge says that if the governor thinks there's an invasion—like there was from 19th century cattle rustlers—courts must abdicate defer. Dissents: Haven't y'all read Gibbons v. Ogden?
- New Orleans crime lab employee warns superiors that one of their drug tests is unreliable. They respond that the lab's employees will themselves be subjected to the potentially unreliable drug tests, and the employee asks to go on leave. His supervisor then goes to his home with two other armed officers to conduct a "wellness check," and they both force their way into the home and force him into a police car to take him to police headquarters. Employee sues, saying the home search and his seizure violated the Fourth Amendment. Qualified immunity? Fifth Circuit: No immunity for the supervisor, but the Nuremberg defense works for the two other officers.
- Consider this timeline. 2018: Brentwood, Tenn. police detective gets a search warrant for a lawyer's private Facebook records. 2020: Lawyer learns of the search through discovery in a criminal proceeding against her. 2022: Detective testifies that one of the main reasons she got the search warrant was because the lawyer criticized the police, and the lawyer brings a First Amendment retaliation suit. Is the lawsuit timely under the one-year statute of limitations? Sixth Circuit (per curiam): Under our circuit's discovery rule, the lawyer knew about the search and who did the search in 2018, and that's enough to start the clock. Claim time-barred. (Any equitable-tolling argument was forfeited.) Concurrence 1: The real problem is just that the facts show the lawyer should have known in 2018 that she was being retaliated against. Concurrence 2: Our discovery rule seems wrong, and Supreme Court precedent says what matters is just whether the elements of the cause of action have occurred, whether or not the plaintiff knew about them.
- Ohio school district prohibits students from intentionally using another's non-preferred pronouns that rise to the level of harassment. Parents with children in schools who believe that biological sex is immutable challenge the policy under the First Amendment. Sixth Circuit: You can use their names, thus avoiding pronouns, or not speak to them at all. No injunction. Dissent: The policy is a viewpoint-based regulation that compels students to speak in a manner with which they disagree, namely that biology doesn't determine gender. It should be enjoined.
- Teen witnesses two assailants—one who is 320 pounds and one who is bald—commit a murder in Saginaw, Mich. in 2015. At a lineup, a police sergeant presents two suspects—neither of whom are bald or weigh anywhere near 300 pounds. The teen says they are not the assailants and later, at trial, testifies to the same. But wait! The sergeant produces a report saying that on the day of the lineup the teen did indeed finger the suspects, who spend over five years incarcerated before they're cleared. Sixth Circuit: Their fabrication of evidence and malicious prosecution claims against the sergeant can go forward.
- Hamilton County, Ohio judge is indicted on multiple felony charges, including claims that she backdated documents to prevent appeals. Her 2014 trial attracts a great deal of interest; two people attending a pretrial hearing are arrested for taking pictures in the hallway (charges later dropped). They sue. Sixth Circuit (2018): No qualified immunity. Sixth Circuit (2020): Qualified immunity for all claims other than official-capacity claims. Jury (2022): One arrestee's rights were violated, and she gets $35k in damages plus $500k in attorney's fees. Sixth Circuit (2024, unpublished): The arrest was not in retaliation for protected conduct or caused by the county's failure to train its employees, so the jury verdict is reversed and money yanked. (The judge was convicted of improperly using her position to help her brother, spent 75 days behind bars, and saw her law license suspended.)
- Portage County, Ohio woman left near dead with severe head injuries after a hammer attack. She first has no memory of what happened, but, after police show her a photo of a man who they say did it, she eventually (months later) says she knew all along that he did it. Suppress the identification? Ohio Court of Appeals (2018, over a dissent): Nah. The cop shouldn't have done that, but her identification of the man was nonetheless reliable. Sixth Circuit (2024, over a dissent): Calling the cop's procedures "'impermissibly suggestive' is a gross understatement." Habeas granted.
- Listen, friends: We've all had that deposition where we thought opposing counsel crossed the line from zealous representation to unreasonable and obstructive conduct. Don't curse them out afterwards. Definitely don't physically push them. And definitely, definitely don't later tell the district judge you "unintentionally" brushed against them. Seventh Circuit: Sanctions award affirmed.
- The Seventh Circuit voted to go en banc last year because its take on the Rooker-Feldman doctrine was a mess. After careful deliberation, the en banc court holds that the Rooker-Feldman doctrine is, in fact, a mess and that SCOTUS should really do something about that. In the meantime, if you add up the votes across three dueling en banc opinions, different parts of which are joined by different judges, the court reaches at least a few holdings about how it's going to apply Rooker-Feldman going forward, but, honestly, your summarist ran out of fingers trying to count the votes and respectfully refers you to the summary in Judge Hamilton's lead opinion, which we're sure is right.
- Lobbying gets a bad rap, but, the Eighth Circuit reminds us, petitioning the gov't for a redress of grievances is, in fact, a core component of the First Amendment. As a result, Missouri's prohibition on former state legislators and staff working as lobbyists for two years after they leave office is subject to strict scrutiny, which it comes nowhere close to passing.
- Allegation: Over the course of three days, pretrial detainee at White County, Ark. jail repeatedly alerts officers that a spider bite has caused an infection in his arm and hand, which are oozing pus and swelled to the size of a small watermelon. They ignore him. Eighth Circuit: We've previously held that ignoring a detainee's serious medical need for two days is unconstitutional. The lower court's denial of qualified immunity to the officers is affirmed.
- Man suffering from mental illness calls Las Vegas police for help. Though he's unarmed and nonthreatening, two officers drag him to the ground and pin him down. He dies of asphyxiation. Officers: We stopped kneeling on him after he was cuffed; in the prior case at issue, officers continued pinning down the decedent after he was cuffed. Ninth Circuit: No need for a factually identical case here; he wasn't a threat. No qualified immunity.
- Allegations: Georgia political candidate runs for city commission on a platform of "replac[ing] Caucasian employees with African Americans," including, specifically, the white city manager. He's elected, warns the city manager he'll be replaced with a Black city manager, and encourages the other Black commissioners to vote to do just that. The fired city manager is then told he can't return to his former position as finance director because he "did not look like" them. Eleventh Circuit: "The question for us is whether those allegations permit the inference that the City Commission fired McCarthy because he is white."
- There are two things your summarist knows to be true: Defamation lawsuits draw more attention to the alleged defamation, and nobody is ever going to start referring to Twitter as X. Relatedly, the Eleventh Circuit (per curiam) holds that former Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court Roy Moore cannot sue over tweets calling him a pedophile, which were inspired by multiple news reports of women who accused Moore of groping them while they were underage.
- Each week, the federal courts of appeals decide cases with complicated facts featuring lurid tales of murder, mayhem, and misadventure. So when the Eleventh Circuit starts its opinion with "Warning: This is going to get messy," you know what you're going to get: an extended discussion of class-certification standards under Rule 23.
- Defendant: Google had to pull my account information in response to gov't's "geofence" warrant, and I want all the evidence suppressed. Eleventh Circuit: Maybe it did. But the only account information Google actually turned over in response to that warrant belonged to your girlfriend's daughter, so you don't have standing to object.
- Georgia prison officers invasively strip-search a woman visiting her inmate husband for seemingly no reason, violating prison policy in the process and dissembling about the incident afterwards. Woman sues under the Fourth Amendment, and officers assert qualified immunity. Eleventh Circuit: Strip searches are "embarrassing and humiliating," the Constitution requires that prison visitors can be subjected to them only if there is reasonable suspicion and the search is not more intrusive than necessary, and most circuits had held as much when this search occurred. But our circuit doesn't allow out-of-circuit precedent to clearly establish the law (or care that prison policy was violated), so the officers get qualified immunity. Concurrence 1: We should take this case en banc because our refusal to consider an out-of-circuit consensus goes against Supreme Court authority. Concurrence 2: K. Newsom, Considerations on Qualified Immunity, 44 11th Cir. L. Rev. 211 (2024).
- One of the great joys of civil procedure is that you can, as in this Eleventh Circuit case, recite truly bonkers allegations about secret affairs with appellate judges and quid-pro-quo arrangements to spring criminal defendants and then just say there's no need to bother with any of it because the whole thing is barred by the Rooker-Feldman doctrine anyway.
- Wayne County, Mich. sheriff's deputies seek to forfeit woman's car based on allegation that her passenger might have had drugs in the car at some previous time (no drugs were found). Michigan Supreme Court (over a dissent): To be forfeitable under the statute, a car has to be used to transport drugs for their sale or receipt. That didn't happen, so no forfeiture. (This is an IJ case.)
New case! In 2009, officials tried to install a new sewer line on Melisa and Michael Robinson's property, a small mobile home community they own and operate in Okay, Oklahoma. But they made a hash of it! They didn't grade the pipes properly, and sewage backed up into the homes. They hit an underground power line, killing the power and blowing out tenants' refrigerators and air conditioners. Moreover, officials never bothered to obtain the necessary easement or even notify the Robinsons before they started digging. All of which, after 13 years of litigation, led to the Oklahoma Supreme Court (and a jury) declaring the whole thing to be an unconstitutional taking. The Robinsons are now owed over $200k, but—and here's where IJ comes in—the town says it does not have to pay and that court-ordered judgments are merely unenforceable IOUs. Fiddlesticks! The Fifth Amendment is made of sterner stuff, and the gov't must pay for what it takes. Click here to learn more.
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D.C. Circuit.
While NIH may lack the resources to manually review every post, it likely does have the resources to review posts flagged by software as containing dirty words. See page 17:
I think manual review of auto-hidden comments would not be done in practice. It would be more speech-tolerant to have the posts flagged for manual review without hiding them.
Gibbons v. Ogden taught us that the Roman Empire declined and fell for want of central regulatory authority.
In the Sixth Circuit fat bald case, it appears that the five years in prison were spent waiting on appeals rather than collateral review after discovery of new evidence.
Reviews of life sentences also move slowly in my state. It's going to be affirmed so why rush?
Sixth Circuit: "You can use their names, thus avoiding pronouns, or not speak to them at all."
The only pronoun I normally use when speaking to a person about that person is "you". The language police want me not to call a "he" a "she" when speaking to third parties.
I have enough trouble associating names and faces. I'm not throwing pronouns into the mix, especially when they can change on a whim.
If you don't wish to speak favorably about the King, you can simply decline to speak about the King at all. Where's the free speech violation?
The free speech violation in your example is suppression of speech, not compelled speech. The Sixth Circuit is discussing plaintiff’s argument that the district policy compels students to say things that the students don’t wish to say. That’s a compelled speech argument, and I think the Sixth Circuit was right to reject it.
This jumped out at me too.
Also, the troll in me is sorely tempted to tell people my pronouns are "You/I" when asked.
And people wonder why I use "Doctor."
We sure do!
I don’t wonder, you’re a Pompous Ass like (Dr) Jill Biden (Dr) Henry Kissinger (would (Dr) Julius Erving have fucked Vietnam up as much?) I’ll leave out (Dr) Martin Luther King (Jr) because he didn’t go around calling himself “Dr” (his friends called him “Marty”)
I OTOH, only use “Dr” because it’s expected, like MLB players wearing Uniforms instead of Tank Tops and Jorts, In the old days, you got called “Dr” from the first day of Med School, except it was usually said in such a Sarcastic belittling manner that’d you rather they just called you Shithead (“That’s “Dr” Shithead!) finally, toward the end of your Senior year, when you actually did something that didn’t shorten a Patient’s lifespan, you might get it pronounced normally.
“Congratulations Dr. Drackman, you took that Mastectomy Patients blood pressure in the arm we didn’t do the Axillary Lymph Node Dissection in”
Internship was even worse, because you had to sign the Death Certificates of patients you killed, I mean “had an adverse outcome” with (don’t get it, I always felt fine)
But like the Bishop in “Caddyshack” My names Frank, and I’m a man, same as you!”
Now, when I had teenage daughters, and they had teenage friends, and they’d call me “Dr” Drackman and ask me to check their……
get your mind out of the gutter, Ankles, my daughters played Basketball, Volleyball, and Tennis, always a Jennifer, Jessica, Becca, with an ankle that needed a "Drawer" test
Hey Now!
Frank
Hamilton County, Ohio judge is indicted on multiple felony charges, including claims that she backdated documents to prevent appeals. Her 2014 trial attracts a great deal of interest; two people attending a pretrial hearing are arrested for taking pictures in the hallway (charges later dropped). They sue. Sixth Circuit (2018): No qualified immunity. Sixth Circuit (2020): Qualified immunity for all claims other than official-capacity claims. Jury (2022): One arrestee's rights were violated, and she gets $35k in damages plus $500k in attorney's fees. Sixth Circuit (2024, unpublished): The arrest was not in retaliation for protected conduct or caused by the county's failure to train its employees, so the jury verdict is reversed and money yanked.
Way to yank everyone's chain for years. You can sue, no you can't (except for one of you), she wins, she loses.
Like the guy who got hurt at a BLM march in Louisiana. The case went up to the United States Supreme Court and sideways to the Louisiana Supreme Court and back down to federal District Court. After several years spent litigating a motion to dismiss he couldn’t come up with admissible evidence to back up his allegations. It would have been so much simpler to go straight to summary judgment on a plaintiff-friendly standard of fault.
During the presidential immunity discussions, several people here seemed confused about how a judge could be prosecuted for official acts. Here's an example.
Is fabricating evidence of an official act an official act?
What is it about right wingers and performative tin foilery?
I don't understand how that relates to my comment.
Why do you say the judge was prosecuted for official acts?
Backdating a document isn't an official act.
Um, yes, it is. (I mean, not all documents, obviously — only ones related to her job.) Following links from above gets us to an article that says:
"The most serious of Friday's indictments against Hunter accuses her of tampering with documents in some of the cases before her, alleging that she backdated documents to prevent prosecutors from appealing her decisions against them, and a forgery charge involving those documents. The Enquirer first reported in September that prosecutors suspected Hunter was backdating documents."
And then in one of those is a link to a memo describing the specifics of what she allegedly did:
https://www.scribd.com/document/168616266/Hunter-Backdate-Pros
Yeah, entering orders on the court's docket is in fact an official act. It's pretty much in the core of what a judge's job is.
Issuing orders? Sure, that's an official act.
Forging documents related to the timing of those orders? Not so much.
Of course it is; that was the whole point of doing it: because entering the documents onto the docket is part of the process of issuing the order.
Your argument may be that because she wasn't authorized to do it, it couldn't be an official act. But that's wrong and circular. If it were right, then there would never be immunity for official acts because if something were illegal then it wouldn't be official in the first place. But that's not what an official act is. An official act is anything done pursuant to the color of one's office, permissible or not.
Creating accurate docket entries might be official acts, but that doesn't mean creating inaccurate docket entries is.
If a judge issues a written order, that's an exercise of the judge's authority. But if the judge issues the same order backdated to a week ago, (I know that's not what this judge did) that's not an exercise of the judge's authority, that's fabricating evidence that the judge exercised his authority a week ago.
Ultimately, it depends on Ohio judicial immunity jurisprudence.
Any experts on that subject matter willing to weigh in?
“Backdating a document isn’t an official act.”
Leave the thinking to others.
In the Georgia ethnic cleansing case, the city official who was out for racial purity is not liable. He arguably persuaded his colleagues to vote to fire a man for being white. He did not cast a vote when termination came before the City Commission. He seems to be in the same position as any crank who called up City Hall and asked for something illegal. Only the city itself is potentially liable.
This appeal involves a complaint about racial politics in a
small town in rural Georgia. Joshua Deriso campaigned for election
as chairman of the City Commission of Cordele, Georgia, by publicly stating his intent to “replace Caucasian employees with African Americans”; to lead “an entirely African American” City Commission; and to replace Roland McCarthy, the white City Manager, with a black City Manager. On social media, Deriso declared, “Structure needs to change . . . More Blacks!!!”; “The new City Manager should be Black”; and “it is time for African Americans to run our city.
There would be cities on fire if white politicians talked like this. It’s an unstable equilibrium in American politics that black people organize around race but white people don’t; if blacks are racist and whites are even-handed, then whites will be at a massive political disadvantage. I’d prefer not to play these games, but if black people are going to then unilateral disarmament is suicide. I hope someday we have a post-racial society, but racists seem determined to make it never happen, certainly not in my lifetime.
(moved)
It's coming.
No one under the age of 65 (70?) has any personal knowledge of Jim Crow and the concept of White Guilt will die with them.
And then the Klan will be reborn with avengence. It won't be pretty.
Does Dr. Ed think discrimination and segregation ended on July 2, 1964?
John, what about tortious interference with contracts or whatever that is officially called?
What about it? How do you think it would apply to this discussion?
" Heated depositions "
I have conducted hundreds of depositions. I can't recall one that was not conducted in a room with comprehensive, effective HVAC service. Not even in Tennessee, West Virginia, backwater Ohio, Kentucky, or central Pennsylvania.
There were at least two appeals from different parts of Roy Moore's defamation case, where some parties were dismissed early. I think the 11th Circuit has not yet decided whether he gets to keep the $8.2 million judgment he won against other defendants.
Roy Moore, the theocratic bigot?
Roy Moore, the guy removed from two judgeships for misconduct?
Roy Moore, the superstition-addled admirer of remarkably young girls?
Roy Moore, the drawling birther nicknamed "Fruit Salad" as he stumbled through law school?
Roy Moore, the leering clinger repeatedly accused of sexual assault?
Roy Moore, the knuckle-dragger who tried to open court proceedings with a prayer?
Did I mention Roy Moore is a right-wing bigot?
That Roy Moore?
The thing I don't understand about Ray Moore is that if the State of Alabama, in its infinite wisdom, sets the age of consent at 16, then there was absolutely nothing wrong with Moore flirting with 16 year olds.
Conversely, if they set the age of consent at 21, assuming it passed constitutional muster, a 20 year old girl would be underaged.
What shocked me in my research was a Kentucky AG opinion that a married girl under age 15 was not truant because her duties to her household/husband superseded her obligation to attend school. Well, if the State of Kentucky, in it's infinite wisdom.....
And the Mass SJC recently upheld lifetime smoking bans -- no one born after 2003 will EVER be able to lawfully purchase cigarettes.
"The" thing he doesn't understand.
"a Clovis, Calif. officer disclosed to a fellow officer that his girlfriend had filed a confidential domestic violence complaint against him—knowing full well that she was trapped in a room with him at that very moment. He then brutally attacked her. ..."
Poorly written summary. 'He did this to him, and then he told him that he was going to...' Please use first names, or even X, Y, and Z. I had to read and re-read this several times before it made complete sense to me.
This would be better in your mind?
(I kid, but only a little. At least, I didn't have problems inferring that "his", "him", "him" and "he" all referred to the second officer.)
But our circuit doesn't allow out-of-circuit precedent to clearly establish the law (or care that prison policy was violated), so the officers get qualified immunity.
I really admire the legal fiction that prison guards are reading circuit court opinions, but know that in their circuit out-of-circuit opinions don't "count." There's so much wrong with this entire line of cases. SCOTUS should clean up this mess.
Lawyers in the prison administration read the opinions and provide training, policies, and procedures to the COs. This is why there's a propagation delay in the clear establishment doctrine.
Even if this weren't the case and your fevered imagination were correct, it's not outrageous to expect public officials to perform their job duties or for the courts to expect such. That isn't how it works, but if it did it would be fine. We'd probably have to pay more to keep up staffing though.
Maybe they do, maybe they don't, but QI doesn't turn on any such training. (The failure to set training, policies, and procedures based on those opinions might lead to liability for the government liability under Monell, but it has nothing to do with personal liability.)
No, there isn't.
Of course, the fiction is worse than described by textfirst, because under QI doctrine the courts pretend that whether something is "clearly established" is based on close parsing of minor differences in the opinions, and the notion that guards can predict how the courts will decide which opinion is closer to the facts of the given situation.
IIRC there are cases where QI was granted even when the cops clearly violated their training guidelines and departmental policy - because neither counted.
Correct; neither counts for § 1983 purposes. And it's worse than that: there was a case a few years ago out of the 9th circuit where cops were accused of stealing valuables that they had seized during a lawful search. Obviously doing so would not merely violate training guidelines and departmental policy, but also the penal code. But the QI "clearly established" requirement doesn't care whether the action is illegal — only whether it's clearly established that it's unconstitutional. And since no previous case had held that it violated someone's constitutional rights to steal his property after it was seized, the cops were given QI.
For 1983 municipal liability based on inadequate training, see, e.g., City of Canton, Ohio v. Harris, 489 U.S. 378 (1989), but it was a well-established principle in most circuits by then. Sometimes the officers are liable and sometimes not, depending on the objective analysis, which is in fact dependent on training.
Propagation delay is part of the "fair notice" requirement of the clear establishment test. It's circuit-specific, and while there's no split I'm aware of the standards are not clear. I think it's only come up in a handful of circuits. In mine, 30 days definitely isn't enough time for a circuit opinion to become clearly established and the law's complexity is (by dicta) probably a factor.
The whole thing is a mess, but the mess isn't "officials need more immunity." There are edge cases where the defendants get screwed in the QI analysis but they're almost always vindicated at trial. There are a large number of cases where inappropriate grants of immunity allow officials to violate rights with no recourse to the victim.
Private schools developed for a number of reasons.
Some parents -- wealthy people -- wanted a different, perhaps better, education for their children, much like people today purchase Land Rovers to drive something different than a Lexus, BMW, or Mercedes, something perceived to be distinctive (although it customarily isn't).
Some parents were driven by bigotry, especially as better Americans arranged desegregation even in the most desolate, deplorable backwaters.
Some parents were driven by superstition, desperate to avoid having their children exposed to science, reason, and the reaility-based world (rather than being immersed in indoctrination and nonsense-based education).
Modern America was built on public schools. People who hate public schools are disaffected, un-American assholes and mostly bigoted, superstitious culture war casualties.
People fleeing the public school system are almost always fleeing violence or extremely bad educational outcomes. In practice, every bad child is on an IEP for some """disability""" and once they're on an IEP, they can't feasibly be suspended for more than ten days in a school year, can't be expelled, and can't be punished for anything if they claim it was because of their """disability.""" So, how do you keep a child under control when they know they can do whatever they want and won't suffer any consequences? Well, good question; you don't. Hence government schools have chaos and violence that's simply not tolerated at private schools. If you're troubled by private schools, fix the government ones.
How do you keep a child under control
You don't. Not at the original school anyway. The school district you live in may have a school/institution that takes in all "troubled" youth. And put them in the same room together. And the room has an adjacent lockable padded room. It honestly is where they just put kids they don't want to deal with. Kids who out of the blue throw desks at people in the room. Kids who haven't done homework because they don't want to. Kids teased mercilessly by classmates who tell the kid to kill themselves. And then they attempt it. Any kid that would cause disturbances, lower grades/test scores, or kids they just don't want. 6-10 to a room with one "staff" member (only two teachers in the office) with 15-20 'classrooms'.
In case you were wondering what the curriculum is... Tuesdays and Fridays are movie days. Wednesday's are coloring days. Monday's are reading days and Thursdays are "free" days.
In too many schools an IEP is a death sentence for dreams of basic education.
Kudos to the schools trying to keep kids in their original schools and feel like the kids are worth something.
In Boston, charter schools are overwhelmingly popular with Black parents. It's really hard to claim that all those parents are racists and want an inferior education for their children.
Charter schools are public schools.
" People fleeing the public school system are almost always fleeing violence or extremely bad educational outcomes. "
That is unpersuasive. Plenty of shitty parents choose nonsense-based schools or downscale cyber schools for first-graders, without any experience involving public schools. They make that choice because they're superstitious and ignorant, not because of anything a public school does (other than teach science, reason, and the reality-based world).
Parents don’t have to send their child to a school to know if the school is good or bad, presumably you know this since I assume you’ve never sent your kids to a private school, yet still have a strong opinion on their quality.
Some parents don’t care about and may be too dumb to recognize good or bad. They focus on the superstition, bigotry, and backwardness.
Arthur, what is a parent supposed to do when the schools are bad, and the public resources are not there to fix it? Then what?
That is why there will be school choice.
Superstition-fouled, nonsense-based schools are never the answer, at least not from the perspective of competent, educated Americans.
1 out of every 5 kids doesn’t graduate high school in urban schools.
68% of all state inmates have no high school diploma.
70% of all state inmates can’t read above a 4th grade level.
Only 25% of new military enlistees are high school graduates.
So, what’s the answer for those folks? More taxes to spend more on education? Local and property tax increases wont garner much. These are folks that cant make it out of the city to the burbs. Can’t get blood from a stone.
The policy/law decisions starting from the top down are made by people from private schools. The kind where people spend $ to get their kid into.
If school choice is in the cards, your opinion is that it should never involve schools with ideologies or religion. To echo Commenter_XY’s question, if they cant get the problems fixed where are they supposed to go to avoid becoming a statistic?
Assuming Shapiro is the VP pick, here’s a list of some of the private schools attended by the President, and both parties prez/vp nominees. Are any of them competent, educated Americans?
University of Delaware*
Syracuse University**
Archmere Academy (Catholic)
Howard University
University of Pennsylvania***
Fordham University (Jesuit)
New York Military Academy
Defense Information School
Yale (Protestant/Congregationalist)
Georgetown University (Catholic)
University of Rochester (Baptist)
Akiba Hebrew Academy
Forman Hebrew Day School
*”we are not affiliated with one particular denomination. We have Christ as our center and want to serve Him with the gifts He has given us!”
**Has membership in NASCUMC and receives funding from the United Methodist Church.
***Penn, though secular, was Anglican and started out of a hall dedicated to hearing Anglicans preach. It currently receives money from different denominations including LDS.
What kind of obsolete dumbass respects a degree awarded by a school whose foundation consists of fairy tales, other nonsense, and plenty of disgusting bigotry?
Evidently quite a few voters?
I am *very* interested in hearing any and all alternatives from you or anyone else for that matter. This is one area that I am stuck.
One is given the very strong impression that Kirkland has no kids and no understanding of how parents make these decisions.
Three children. Two with advanced degrees, the third soon to have one. In a family with more advanced degrees than inhabitants.
I sense that some parents -- motivated by preferences for religious dogma over science, childish superstition over reason, and nonsense over the reality-based world -- choose schools for reasons other than sound education. They have disdain for the modern American (liberal-libertarian, reasoning) mainstream, precipitating a decision to indoctrinate their children with conservative superstition, conservative ignorance, and conservative bigotry.
People are entitled to study and teach as they wish. People are entitled to attend and operate Liberty, Wheaton, Ouachita Baptist, Franciscan, Regent, Ave Maria, Biola, Hillsdale, Grove City, and a hundred shit-rate institutions like them. But better people are not obligated to respect degrees awarded by those institutions or provide accreditation with respect to nonsense-based education.
What kind of obsolete dumbass respects a degree awarded by a school whose foundation consists of fairy tales, other nonsense, and plenty of disgusting bigotry?
A conservative, of course.
I absolutely believe this self-aggrandizing made up biography from an anonymous person.
Well, you can protest and let the school board know how you feel, but then the DOJ will designate you a domestic terrorist.
no need to bother with any of it because the whole thing is barred by the Rooker-Feldman
Forget it, Jake, it's Rooker-Feldman.
In the First Circuit there is precedent to say that tipping a suspect about a rape allegation, causing him to go on a murderous rampage, is not protected by qualified immunity. The case appears to have settled after the First Circuit decision denying qualified immunity, Irish v. Fowler, 979 F.3d 65 (1st Cir. 2020).
I would hope the precedent is just that "tipping a subject about a rape allegation" is not protected by QI -- the tipper doesn't have any reliable way to know what offense the suspect might commit in response to the tip, so whether that's a murderous rampage or something lesser (or even nothing) should be legally irrelevant to the question of QI.
Isn't there also a criminal statute being violated?
This came up in the infamous 1999-00 UMass Campus Pond Rape Hoaxes where the DA threatened to prosecute those who knew the names of the woman who had made the false allegations of being raped.
This included a reporter who personally knew one of the purported victims and her prior psych history.
I'll take "things that didn't happen" for $1,000, Alex.
What the hell, I’ll bite.
What statute do you think is being violated?
There were three rapes prior to the false allegation of a knife attack, which have neither been solved nor the reports discredited. No false allegation of rape was made at that time.
https://dailycollegian.com/2002/05/campus-faced-sexual-assaults-in-past/
Does that mean I can look forward to ending discrimination over my proper name, "Dick"? I have been fighting that problem since the days before the Internet on USENET.
Court "disclose" identities of victims all the time, worse yet, they release DV suspects they know has a very high likelihood of attacking their victim again. I really don't understand why the Clovis situation is any different. Should judges lose absolute immunity when their actions knowingly place victims at risk? I would love that since judges lack all accountability for even reckless and negligent actions.