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Public Opinion about Regulation
Is the publc getting what it wants from the administrative state?
University of Chicago emeritus professor of economics Sam Peltzman has a new paper in the Journal of Law & Economics, "Public Opinion about Regulation," looking at public perceptions of regulation. Here is the abstract:
The paper describes how ordinary citizens view economic regulation and summarizes answers to questions about regulation and regulators since the 1970s from the General Social Survey. The pattern is clear: ordinary citizens are skeptical and wary. They want less regulation and do not trust regulators to do what is right. The mistrust has become stronger over time. However, the public supports environmental and electricity rate regulation. These sentiments are shared across age, sex, race, education, and income groups and the left/right ideological spectrum. The public tends to oppose less traditional regulation, such as wage and price controls, government ownership of some industries, and regulation of steel prices. But there is less consensus across demographic groups: blacks, the less educated, and low-income groups are less hostile, or marginally friendly, to less conventional modes of regulation. The paper concludes by contrasting public opinion with the path of regulation since the 1970s.
And from the body of the paper:
the broad public seems to lean more toward the public choice rather than the public interest view. No single result is definitive, but the pattern is telling: ordinary citizens are not on average confident in regulators, nor do they trust regulators to do what is best for the country. By two to one, they say they want less business regulation. They are also wary of extending the reach of regulation.
This skepticism about regulation is apparently not a new phenomenon and is arguably on the rise. . . .
This skepticism of regulation is not universal, however. Environmental regulation, in particular, seems to be viewed more favorably than some other forms of regulation.
There are exceptions to this general hostility. The middle and lower panels include questions about particular kinds of regulation or government intervention in markets. They are questions of should we or should we not regulate rather than how much. I list the questions according to priors informed by how the typical student in a typical introduction to economics course might respond, that is, probably friendlier to regulation of externalities or natural monopoly than to, say, steel prices. The answers mostly bear out these priors.
For example, the public is nearly unanimous in favoring legal restraint on industrial pollution (see responses to grnlaws). Fans of Coasean bargaining or Elinor Ostrom might take comfort from the diminished support for regulation when the group to be restrained is people (pubdecid) rather than industry. But the overall message is clear: the public likes environmental regulation. The public is also decidedly positive toward regulation of electricity prices, less so toward financial services prices, and negative about steel price regulation. (The first three questions about industry regulation are effectively about price regulation, though they allow a government ownership option.)The public is decidedly hostile to government ownership of banks and electric utilities.
Whether this is due to the apparent need for such regulation, or a lack of examination of the public choice problems that can infect environmental regulation is unclear.
And from Peltzman's conclusion:
This brief tour has shown that public opinion is wary of regulation and skeptical about regulators in general, while making allowance for some particular kinds of regulation. The negative view of regulation is shared broadly across population groups: age, sex, race, education, and income. There is some evidence that this negative view is increasing over time. There is broad consensus favoring environmental and electricity rate regulation. This consensus breaks down for nontraditional government interventions like wage and price controls, maximum hours worked, regulation of bank prices, and government ownership of banks and electric utilities. . . .
I began by noting the muted role assigned to public opinion by interest-group-centric economic theories of regulation. In a way, the evidence here lends weight to those theories. If the general public is wary and skeptical, what has it got? The answer is more regulation, not less. . . .
Not only has the ordinary citizen gotten more regulation rather than less, but the gap between what the public wants and gets seems to be growing over time. This suggests an agenda for further research that might clarify what the public's preference for less regulation means specifically and what obstacles to related changes in policy stand in the way.
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Of course errybody wants less regulations.
Until the planes crash, or the rivers burn (or overflow their banks), or the apples are poisoned, or the drywall is moldy, or the car brakes lock by themselves, or . . . .
..and thanks to regulation those things no longer happen.
So you're saying . . . since absolutely no regulation (or no law) is 100% effect then we should get rid of them?
I don't see anyone saying "get rid of." But since overbearing regulations still aren't 100% effective (and even if they were!), there's definitely a cost/benefit conversation to be had about the degree of regulation vs. the degree of benefit. The proposition that any regulation is a good regulation if it reduces some risk somewhere to some degree is how we get silly stuff like crippled gas stoves, EV or bust cars, and hair-trigger standards that often result in discarding literally millions of pounds of food at a time over a distant maybe.
Or until someone turns on a gas cooktop.
The problem is that government types can’t limit themselves to things that really mitigate real problems. They have to keep on regulating way past the point of reasonable.
At abortion clinics, for example . . . or with respect to Disney, discussions about race and gays in schools, and the display of nonsense-based religious texts in classrooms?
Showing up to protest at an abortion clinic gets you visited by 30 armed FBI agents and a CNN crew.
Imposing big-government micromanagement on ladyparts clinics gets you Republican votes . . . and the endorsement of Faux Libertarians For Statist Womb Management.
Who should pay for the trivial routine maintenance of those same ladyparts?
The women to whom have those ladyparts belong?
Their employers?
Their insurance companies?
Taxpayers?
...and your parroted article of faith has...what to do with government over-regulation?
Specifically, such regulation concerning "...abortion clinics, for example . . . or with respect to Disney, discussions about race and gays in schools, and the display of nonsense-based religious texts in classrooms?"
Let me add to your list the number of new regulations for voting after the 2020 election. Despite no evidence of significant fraud we saw numerus states enact new regulations for the sole purpose of appease the vanity of a failed candidate. The 2022 midterm results are bringing calls to stop younger voters.
How much of the public's satisfaction with environmental regulation results from most individuals not having to personally comply with those regulations or personally deal with the regulators; that the downsides of those regulations are someone else's problem?
". . . having to personally comply with those regulations . . .,"
But the costs are passed on to the public.
Example, buildings have electrical codes they have to meet so the cost of meeting those are included in the rent.
But the costs are so diffused that they are much less noticeable.
Now try condo or co-op owners who face the costs of retrofitting to comply with bans on gas appliances.
Or not having to bear the cost of dirty air or water or polluted land. The people in those cancer corridors wouldn't have to comply with regulations that might stop them from being cancer corridors, but the people who would have to comply probably don't live in the cancer corridors they create.
Not only has the ordinary citizen gotten more regulation rather than less, but the gap between what the public wants and gets seems to be growing over time.
This shows me that the disconnection between DC and ordinary citizenry is becoming worse, not better. The trend is moving in the wrong direction.
What it shows me is that the disconnection between what people want and what they say they want is growing. (And/or that this survey doesn't do a very good job of capturing what people want, regulation-wise.)
Most surveys/polls don't do a very good job.
On what basis do you assume that people actually want more regulation when they say they want less? I think commenter is correct in his statement that DC is way out of touch with the opinion of the broad pubic.
And honestly it’s not just DC. State and local governments, the media, academics, business leadership. All of them have lost touch with what the majority of regular (for lack of a better word) people want.
Probably because they like clean air and water? And less dying and maiming in industrial/farming accidents? That sort of thing?
bevis, everyone has lost touch. What people say they want varies by where they are. And who they are.
In Appalachia, people say they want less regulation. In New England they say they want more regulation. In the deep South they say they want less regulation. On the West Coast they say they want more regulation.
White males say they want less regulation. Black females say they want more regulation.
People aren’t leaving California by the thousands for Colorado and Texas because they want more regulation.
You’re listening to the political/media class too much. Normies want the government to provide infrastructure and protect the borders and keep the playing field level and protect us from unscrupulous businesses (including polluters). After that, leave us be. Don’t tell us what to drive or cook our food on or eat. Don’t condemn our property to give it to your business buddies. Or tell us who we can or can’t marry.
The anti-regulation opinion is due to the overkill.
People aren’t leaving California by the thousands for Colorado and Texas because they want more regulation.
People follow jobs, jobs follow the race to the bottom between states in terms of regulation. (And: People follow housing, housing developers follow the race to the bottom.) None of that proves anything about whether people like clean drinking water or not.
You’re talking about government protecting drinking water from contamination, which is fine and overwhelmingly popular. Using an obvious need to excuse all kinds of ridiculous regulations.
I’m talking about government outlawing gas cooktops and fining people for feeding the homeless (and destroying the food in front of hungry people) and telling gays they can’t marry and outlawing vaping (and in a coming attraction in New York, outlawing smoking).
Dismissively referring to lower regulation states where people have a lot more free choice as “the bottom” demonstrates your bias honestly comes off as kinda smug.
You’re switching between state and federal with your goal of cherry picking and assuming people are moving out of California for your chosen reason, but without proof that’s why.
Some regs are good, some are not so good. Some are popular, others not so much.
The poll is bad because it's so coarse grained it's meaningless.
Nobody moves to another state because they want to own a gas stove.
No, they don't. Nobody moves because they can't feed the homeless either. It's a cumulative effect. The regulations themselves and the impact they have on the cost of living and quality of life.
This poll and the actual flow of people says that I'm right and you're wrong, but whatever.
'Don’t tell us what to drive or cook our food on or eat.'
Yeah, whatever you do, don't plan for the future.
bevis, there are regional cultures in this nation, which do not particularly conform to the political boundaries of states, or to census regions. They do reflect ethnicities, historical patterns of settlement, and sometimes even religious heritage values which have otherwise lost salience for most folks.
You seem to mistake your own regional cultural priors for nation-wide values. In most of New England, you would likely be an outlier among neighbors who disagree with you. But even there, you could sort yourself into a subregion which was culturally more like you.
If we ought to have nationwide debate about issues none of us can avoid—which we should—then it would be helpful to found the discussions on the basis of acknowledged variety, not on the basis of, "Everyone thinks like I do, except for a few evil exceptions."
You and martin are saying that the poll must be wrong because it doesn't reflect your beliefs. The poll suggests strongly that I am in the large majority on this.
And you're lecturing me for saying "evil exeptions", which I didn't say. Martin is the one that dismissed places that he doesn't agree with as "the bottom".
Ultimately, people are voting with their feet. Places like Colorado and Texas and Florida are growing and places like NY and California are shrinking. That's not me and it's not opinion.
I'm not sure what a paper like this is doing in the Journal of Law & Economics, since it doesn't seem like it's Law, Economics, or Law & Economics. If anything, it's a PoliSci paper.
Why do Democrats care so much about how much water I shit in?
This is the sort of issue for which polling is absolutely useless, and, if anything, creates opinions that did not previously exist and won't last long after the polling.
Really? Since the '70s? I think that's made up.
And no one wants taxes either.
This is a really dumb social science fail, or it's a push poll. Either way, bad show.
I think this is a good summary of the public view of regulations. It is a love/hate view. Regulation don't exist in a vacuum but rather are the response to real world things. People see things they don't like and want government regulation. Politicians, of both major parties, often see regulation as a quick way to address problems or to make political points, rather than looking at alternative solutions. In the end the public doesn't like regulations, except those that coincide with their personal views.