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Judge James C. Ho's Remarks on Justice Thomas and Judge Kacsmaryk
"We should apply the highest ethical standards, not hypocritical double standards."
Today, Judge James C. Ho spoke to the Dallas Chapter of the Federalist Society. I am happy to publish his remarks:
Thanks so much to the Federalist Society for the opportunity to speak with you all today. I'm here to briefly respond to recent events concerning the issue of ethics in the judiciary. But I'll begin by admitting my personal bias in these matters.
I had the profound honor of clerking for Justice Thomas from 2005 to 2006. But well before that, I had long concluded that Justice Thomas is one of the most principled and fearless individuals to have ever served in the judiciary. He is a role model—and one of the most inspiring and fascinating Americans alive.
Harlan Crow is a respected business leader, a devoted patriot, and a generous philanthropist. He regularly opens his properties to civic organizations, scholars, and public officials. In fact, he opened his home to me and my family, so that Justice Thomas could swear me in on my first day on the bench. For that, I am eternally grateful. I'm deeply honored to know them both.
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Public service is a public trust. Citizens deserve a government they can believe in. So I warmly welcome any good faith discussion about how to strengthen ethics in government.
But we should apply the highest ethical standards, not hypocritical double standards. It disserves the cause when we allow ethics to be weaponized to punish disfavored viewpoints. No one respects a rigged game.
Unfortunately, I've seen how ethical principles can be contorted and misused—not to serve the public good, but to further a political objective. I'll begin with a personal example.
Last year, I was accused of being unethical for publicly stating my concerns with selecting judges based on race. Four other federal judges testified at the very same hearing where I first spoke. Yet none of them were criticized for being unethical. I can only presume that's because the ethics police agreed with them and disagreed with me.
Had I simply parroted the views favored by cultural elites, I have no doubt that these folks would not have accused me of being unethical. But that's not ethics—that's politics.
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In 2021, The Wall Street Journal alleged that over a hundred federal judges had violated the law by failing to recuse in cases in which they had a financial interest.
Notably, the Journal did not accuse all of those judges of actual corruption—of actually deciding cases to further their own interests. That's an important distinction to draw. Because there's a big difference between actual corruption and the appearance of corruption.
That's not to say that appearances aren't important, too. It's vital that citizens have confidence in their judiciary. As judges, we don't have the purse or the sword. All we have is our credibility with the American people.
But we should recognize what the Journal did and did not conclude. It showed that judges are imperfect human beings, like everyone else. But I don't recall anyone calling for all of these judges to be impeached or punished.
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Many Supreme Court Justices have enjoyed many trips hosted by individuals and organizations that may not have a direct interest in a pending case, but no doubt care deeply about certain cases, as surely every American does. Yet no one has said that that's enough to trigger recusal, as was the case in the Wall Street Journal article.
If we want to strengthen disclosure requirements, we can certainly do that. And if we want to categorically prohibit judges from accepting trips from others, we can do that as well.
But whatever we do, I think it would be inaccurate to automatically presume some sort of illicit motive. Many people genuinely enjoy spending time with—and learning from—interesting people who do interesting work. Judges aren't the only ones invited on trips. Scholars and journalists are, too. I was recently invited to Florida to speak to a respected nonpartisan organization—along with a number of distinguished law professors and journalists. Was everyone there to gain corrupt influence with members of the academy and the media? Surely not. And for the same reason, we shouldn't assume illicit motive with every Justice who accepts a trip.
And we certainly shouldn't assume illicit motive just because we happen to disfavor one's views. Again, that's not ethics—that's politics. And it's part of the same problem we're seeing in law schools across America. We're increasingly teaching people to presume bad faith and malicious intention from anyone we disagree with.
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People are doing the same thing to my friend Judge Matt Kacsmaryk.
To understand, you have to remember this: The Justice Department instructs every potential judicial nominee to stop making any public statements of any kind.
When my own nomination was imminent, a reporter wanted to talk to me about a big case that I had just won for a client. He wanted to give me some "Litigator of the Week" recognition, but needed a quote from me before he could do it. The Justice Department instructed me not to talk to the reporter. So I dutifully obeyed. I have no doubt Judge Kacsmaryk was doing exactly the same thing—following instructions.
And there's nothing wrong with those instructions. Consider this analogy: Imagine that someone was thinking about becoming general counsel of a controversial political group. But they never did it, because they were nominated for a judgeship. Nominees aren't required to disclose future jobs that they don't end up taking. Nor are they required to disclose future articles that they don't end up authoring.
I presume that Judge Kacsmaryk would not be required to disclose the article if he had simply withdrawn it altogether. After all, a document isn't final until it's final. And if it had been a solo effort, I imagine that he would've withdrawn it.
But this was a joint effort. And given that it was a joint effort, I see no reason why Judge Kacsmaryk couldn't just let his co-authors proceed without him. I don't see why all their efforts had to go to waste. I can imagine Judge Kacsmaryk just felt bad for his colleagues.
There's nothing wrong or unusual about lawyers who work together on a document, knowing full well that some of them may not end up signing and getting public credit for the product. That's what law clerks do for judges. How many law firm associates have ever contributed to a document that they didn't end up signing—such as a motion or brief or article or speech or client alert? My guess: All of them.
This is such a common phenomenon that there's a name for it. It's called ghostwriting. Now, if the Senate wants to amend its forms to require disclosure of all ghostwritten material, it certainly can do so. But that would be new. Former Senate lawyer Stephen Breyer was not required to disclose everything he ghostwrote for Senator Ted Kennedy.
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I'm all for discussing ways to strengthen ethics in government. But we should do it in good faith. And our discussions should be proportionate to the facts.
During the 2016 Presidential election, Justice Ginsburg made a series of highly disparaging remarks about Donald Trump. She called him a "faker." She criticized the media for not looking into his tax returns. And she said that "I can't imagine what this place would be—I can't imagine what the country would be—with Donald Trump as our president."
A few years earlier, she told the New York Times that, "at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of."
Suffice it to say that these are highly unusual statements for a sitting Supreme Court justice. Yet she did not recuse herself in countless cases involving either abortion or President Trump.
Even so, President Trump later described Justice Ginsburg this way: She led an amazing life and was an amazing woman, whether you agreed with her or not.
Well, here's what I would say about Justice Thomas: He is an amazing man, and his life exemplifies the American Dream, whether you agree with him or not.
By all means, let's talk about what we can do as a country to strengthen ethics in our government. But we can do it without the double standards. We can do it consistently, not selectively. And we can do it without tearing down an honorable man like Justice Thomas. Thank you.
I will have more to say about these matters in due course.
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The Ginsberg stuff was unnecessary, everyone knows that's just (D)ifferent.
Hey, Crow bought Thomases mothers house and two vacant lots off him, (never disclosed), renovated moms house, and has been reportedly letting her live there rent free for 8 years! For people wailing about the shadowy hand of soros money behind every DA in the land, it’s an awfully curiously blasé reaction.
Why would Thomas need to disclose that?
Where are the other SCOTUS Justices' financial disclosures that we can review?
Well, did you look? I found RBG’s from 2019 without much trouble.
Now go find all the stuff she didn't disclose.
"Who cares about the things my client did, when someone else might have done other things I can't identify and have no evidence of?"
Thomas should have disclosed the sale of his 1/3 interest in his mother’s house and the two nearby lots, inherited from his grandfather.
Instead he listed his ownership of them on his 2013 form and they disappeared from his 2014 form without explanation.
Indeed, Thomas should have listed the sale in two places on the 2014 form, both as a capital gain over $200 and as a real estate transaction in the range appropriate to his third of the $133k transaction.
There is no requirement that he list the value to his mother of living rent-free, if she is doing so, in the hose Crow intends to be a Clarence Thomas museum.
And the sale to Crow is not evidence of any conflict of interest. Crow has never had any matter before the Court and no one has, so far as I know, suggested any opinion which Thomas might have crafted so as to please Crow.
But was $133 really the true sale price? How do you value the occupancy agreement with mom, which was negotiated as part of the sale?
His mother, Ms. Williams, as I understand it was one of the three co-owners (the others being Justice Thomas and his now deceased brother). I don't know how each acquired ownership shares (did mom sell shares to the kids to raise some cash? did the kids buy the house and gift a third of it to mom? did they all join in to buy the house initially?)
The benefit of the occupancy clause seems to accrue to his mother rather than Justice Thomas. It may have been a condition without which Ms. Williams wouldn't have been willing to sell.
If the "cash sale" amount was consistent with the market price w/o encumbrances and the buyer wanted that particular unique property and was willing to compensate one co-owner more than market to acquire the property, how is that a benefit to Justice Thomas?
Adult children are generally not responsible for their parents actions or have a claim on their income or assets. If they bear any responsibility, morally they seemingly bear less responsibility than a parent does for their child's actions as the child didn't choose their parents or control their parents at any point whereas parents decide to have a child and also have the opportunity to control it and shape it for 18 years (or, for the older folks, 21 years).
The properties were all inherited from Thomas grandfather, I believe.
To answer Estragon’s question, I am unaware that there IS any formal “occupancy agreement” with Thomas’ mother, but the answer would be that it couldn’t be worth much. She’s 94 years old, so her presence isn’t likely to delay Crow for long in making whatever use he wants to of it. And the rent on a $100k (guess) house in Savannah isn’t likely to be that much. Consult Zillow.
I don’t know how these factors play into each other. And presumably the capital improvements Mr Crow put into the carport, etc. post-sale would indeed be classified as gifts to mom. I’m not sure how strictly accurate it is to say the price was $133, it’s $133 plus an indefinite occupancy agreement, which is not worth $0…. It’s not a gift to mom if it was negotiated as part of the sale.
The number I saw that someone got off of Zillow was in the neighborhood of 150k
It's worth $0 if Crow is free to evict her.
And gifts to the elder Mrs. Thomas are not something Justice Thomas needs to report.
"presumably the capital improvements Mr Crow put into the carport, etc. post-sale would indeed be classified as gifts to mom"
Why? He's the fee owner, he can put improvements into his own property.
And "someone got off of Zillow"? Really?
“Free to evict her”
That is not the nature of the agreement that has been reported. I have seen these types of agreements before, they are not uncommon- but neither are they properly characterized as “gifts” in the legal sense.
“Gifts to mom”
I’m sorry that is imprecise, what I meant was “benefit to mom that need not be reported”
Yes Bob, it’s possible to see average rent prices for a particular zip code on Zillow. Ed whelan knows all about this.
"Ed whelan knows all about this."
Ed did a good job, did he?
"That is not the nature of the agreement that has been reported."
"Reported"? Where?
It would be unsurprising if Leola Williams house was nicer than the average in her zip code in 2014, since not every mother has a good earner like a Supreme Court Justice as her son. So I would expect that not having to pay rent would be of more value to her than the zip code's average rent.
But the main point is that Clarence Thomas doesn't need to report it. Maybe the law should cover parents, but it doesn't.
I'm planning a trip to Savannah soon. Where can I purchase tickets for a tour of the Clarence Thomas museum?
A few years after his mother moves out, maybe feet first.
Why would that be a capital gain?
Serious question? Presumably Crow paid more money for the properties than the basis established when his grandfather died.
FRom the fragment of James Taranto's piece in the WSJ visible w/o going behind the paywall...
"Clarence Thomas lost his beloved maternal grandparents barely a month apart in the spring of 1983. Myers Anderson, whom his grandson knew as 'Daddy,' died of a stroke on March 30...."
So, yeah, the properties were held for 31 years after that. Two houses were torn down, but a capital gain is almost certain.
So....you don't actually know if there was a capital gain to be reported. You're just assuming. Despite two properties being actually torn down...
I mean, in my opinion, if a property is torn down, that generally reduces the value...just me, mind you.
Perhaps you should find the actual assessed values, before throwing accusations of capital gain around.
Unclear if the ones that matter would even be publicly available. The family may well have had private appraisals done while settling the estate to establish basis for a later sale. Public appraisals by taxing authorities tend to significantly undershoot actual market value.
I mean, it's a start at least.
But just assuming that holding a property/ies for a few decades (but tearing down 2 buildings on the ies) results in a capital gain is just lazy.
1. Armchair Lawyer is too stupid to understand how capital gains work. They depend on cost basis and sale price, not "assessed value."
2. Once again: the law requires reporting the transaction whether or not there was a capital gain.
If you think that "Giving large gifts to the family members of politicians" is One Weird Trick To Evade Bribery Laws, I've got some bad news for you.
And yes, I know that there's no allegation of an actual bribe here, but disclosure laws are bribery-adjacent laws, and the principle is the same.
"I have a Porsche here. Yeah, I know I can't give it to you, so we'll just put that in your brother's name, okay?"
You're suggesting Thomas is living in that house instead of his mother?
He’s suggesting there is some personal value to Thomas in this use of money.
Your forbidden act of mind reading aside, that interpretation would mean DMN is suddenly proposing we should consider halo effects of showering money on family members. That's been strictly off-limits for the past couple of years, as you've oft told us. Can you please set him straight? Thanks much.
"He’s suggesting there is some personal value to Thomas in this use of money."
No, he's trying to be cute and blur the distinction between giving someone a gift and putting it in someone else's name, and giving someone else a gift.
But in any event, the statute doesn't require disclosing gifts to parents, and in any event, it appears that consideration was given for allowing the Mom to live there, so there's no evidence of any gift. Now maybe the consideration was below the value of the property and occupancy agreement, but I haven't seen evidence of that.
"I have a Porsche here. Yeah, I know I can’t give it to you, so we’ll just put that in your brother’s name, okay?”
Shush now, that's the Joe Biden standard.
You're saying if you want to not-bribe someone, just give their mom a cool mill and it's all good?
LoB, once again your partisan contrarianism has made you argue a very dumb thesis.
Oh, I'm not saying anything at all, mon cherie. I'm just trying to understand what the new standard is -- at least for today, at least for this issue.
Relatedly, I note you didn't deny you've routinely shut down this same line of reasoning over the last couple of years. At least you've got some lines, somewhere.
"You’re saying if you want to not-bribe someone, just give their mom a cool mill and it’s all good?"
Uh, yes. Giving someone's mom money, by itself, is not bribery.
Jeez, Sarcastro. Talk about partisan contrarianism making someone say dumb things.
I mean, giving the officeholder himself money, "by itself," is not bribery either. Only if there's a quid pro quo of some sort — explicit or implicit — does it become bribery.
But if there is such a quid pro quo, then it doesn't matter where the money goes. "I will give you $1 million if you take action X" is bribery. "I will give your mother $1 million if you take action X" is bribery. Hell, "I will give the Red Cross, which you support, $1 million if you take action X" is bribery.
“Why would Thomas need to disclose that?”
Uh, because it is a federal crime not to do so? 5 U.S.C. §§ 13104(a)(5)(A), 13106(a)(2) (The penalties are minor, FWIW.)
“Where are the other SCOTUS Justices’ financial disclosures that we can review?”
Google is your friend, BCD. https://www.scotusblog.com/justices-financial-disclosures/
Supreme Court to Congress regarding disclosure and penalty statutes: "You're not the boss of us!"
Yeah, that'll really supercharge public confidence in the Supreme Court.
It is the same thing as Trump and the CHPD -- separation of powers is a valid concern and it leads to some interesting stuff like this.
I don't think that Congress should have power over SCOTUS, no more than the DoJ should have power over the CHPD.
Congress can pass laws that apply to the other branches of government, in addition to impeaching judges for bad behavior. Yes, the Supreme Court can declare laws unconstitutional, but at the cost of their credibility. And yes, Congress won't impeach and remove any Justice for a long time, because the Republicans apparently would rather destroy the country than give up the tiniest shred of power, and they're not likely to drop below 34 Senators any time soon. But, 50+ Senators willing to end the filibuster and expand the court, with a majority in the House? Both very possible.
"History and tradition, err, major question . . . I don't know, First Amendment, maybe? Anyway, we're definitely not following that."
You sure about that? Did you check the ethics disclosure form, and find out what was legally required to be disclosed, and what wasn't?
What was legally required to be disclosed is determined by the law, not the form.
Well…
If there’s a form that tells you what should be disclosed, and you make your best effort to disclose what the form tells you to (regardless what the law states), one might be able to forgive an individual. Especially if they did their best to do what the ethics form said.
Just my opinion, mind you.
How could a Supreme Court Justice possibly know what the law is? The average taxpayer is expected to know how to fill out tax forms (tax filing due today, thanks to an unexpected DC holiday; I got mine in yesterday).
I don't know why Armchair Lawyer has decided to beclown himself (more than usual, I mean!) by coming up with the "Maybe Thomas just had no idea what the law was" defense (that he himself has not even advanced with respect to this property sale!). Even if this weren't a standard form (that Armchair Lawyer hasn't bothered to look out) filed by thousands of people every year, the argument would be laughable.
But, sure, we wouldn't necessarily expect you to look at the actual Internal Revenue Code before filling out a tax form, but we would expect you to at least look at the IRS instructions, provided for each and every form. If those were misleading, then you'd have an excuse that your errors weren't willful. But… the instructions for these forms are not misleading. They make it clear what's required. Thomas cannot credibly claim he filled out a disclosure form without reading it or the instructions or the law.
There is no information that indicates that Thomas failed to report the gain on his personal tax return. At least no publicly available information. Any inference that the gain was omitted is pure speculation.
The tax return is separate and distinct from the from the financial disclosure form.
"Uh, because it is a federal crime not to do so?"
Only if he knew he was required to. Any evidence of that.
He can read, can't he?
To quote Taranto: "One may be tempted to think that of all people a judge should know what the law says. But that’s a nonsensical standard. A judge’s job isn’t to memorize statute books; it’s to discern laws’ meaning and their application to the facts in cases that litigants bring before him. Inasmuch as the law applies to the judge’s personal affairs and interests, he’s in the same boat with the rest of us—often dependent on lawyers or other specialists, such as the Committee on Financial Disclosures of the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts, to make sense of his duties and rights."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-truth-about-clarence-thomas-disclosures-propublica-georgia-harlan-crow-ethics-court-91cd21df
"Only if he knew he was required to. Any evidence of that."
It's not too much to expect a SCOTUS justice to parse a statute, now is it?
But Clarence Thomas has long gotten away with flouting financial disclosure laws, so what's one more?
That's your case? He's a SCOTUS justice so he knows all the statutes?
I think your handle is a propos here.
Because the law says so.
Online, you shmuck. Google
[Justice's name] financial disclosure form
and you can access all of them. Here, for instance, is links to the 2019 reports for all 9 justices. At the bottom is links to older forms.
There's no "here" where you typed "Here".
I appreciate not guilty actually supplying a link as opposed to the links to propublica's hit piece on Crow's hospitality, which I didn't bother with.
Here is 5 U.S. Code § 13104, which specifies the infiormation demanded:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/13104
The requirement that Thomas file is in 5 U.S. Code § 13103(f)(11):
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/13103
Whre possible penalties are specified I have not yet located.
The penalty provision is 5 U.S.C. § 13106(a)(2). A fine and imprisonment up to one year for a false filing; a fine only for failure to file.
Wow, imagine if he'd done something really bad, like make false statements on a form 4473!!!! (Section 922(a)(6) of Title 18 of the United States Code) Up 10 years in a Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass Prison.
"a fine only for failure to file."
For a knowing and willful failure to file.
Not an issue. He did file. But with omissions.
Sigh.
"It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly and willfully... fail to file or report any information that such person is required to report under section 13104 of this title."
Do you surmise that Justice Thomas was unaware of the real estate transaction?
It would be surprising for him to be unaware of this transaction— after all, he listed his interest in these properties in the years leading up to 2014
So there isn't. Not sure what happened there.
Here's the here: https://fixthecourt.com/2019disclosures/
I'd also direct you to James Taranto's weekend piece in the Wall Street Journal op-ed section, where he actually makes more of a case that Thomas violated no ethics/disclosure laws, than you (and others) here that he definitely did.
Maybe Taranto's wrong. I don't know, I'm not an ethics lawyer. But then, almost no one here ready to convict Thomas is either.
I know many of you don't like Blackman (and certainly you have reasons), but you're just proving the point of his post quoting Judge Ho.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-truth-about-clarence-thomas-disclosures-propublica-georgia-harlan-crow-ethics-court-91cd21df
But the paywall blocks more than the first two paragraphs, so I don't know why he says "Thomas violated no ethics/disclosure laws". That's two questions, and my answer is no he didn't/yes he did.
Ho did not engage with the actual facts of what happened, just a general 'justices having wealthy friends is okay.'
You sure about that?
Did you check the ethics disclosure form, and look at what specifically was required to be disclosed, and what wasn't? I don't think you did.
The law is pretty clear, though long. Duuno why the form would override that.
See above.
Makes sense. He’s not wanting the place to get bulldozed or its historical character altered. Sounds like Mr. Crow got a good deal – $133,363 for several residential properties. Not just any residential properties, but a priceless historical site. That figure probably includes transfer taxes, closing fees, title insurance etc too.
I assume Thurgood Marshall's childhood home is already well looked after...
There's a nice plaque on it.
Should brush more
This was definitely an arms length transaction and there is nothing to see here.
What do you think 8 years of rent comes to by the way?
Have you also dug into the millions that the Bidens received from China and other places? Can you fill us in, is that all made up or what's the deal? I'd love to know.
“Millions that the bidens recieved”
I’m working on it— I’ll get back to you as soon as I have something.
So, 8 years rent in Savannah— how much you think?
Depends (duh!) on which part of Savannha, in Darky-town not so much, in the not-so-Darky section much more.
Have you also dug into the millions that the Bidens received from China and other places?
This is how I know you've got nothing.
Republican allegations and speculative connection drawing are not facts.
"What do you think 8 years of rent comes to by the way?"
Chump change, since the three properties together sold for $133k, even if Crow fixed the roof and added a carport.
And the gift to his mother is anyway not an item reportable by Thomas and, even if it were, accepting it would not be an ethical violation.
It wasn’t a gift— the agreement to let her live there rent free until passing was part of the negotiated sale price.
You get this info from where?
"arms length transaction "
So what if it was not? Disclosure is all that was required, as predicted he's amending the form. Amendment of such forms is common.
Have you seen a picture? Its a small cottage. No garage. 8 years of rent is hardly a fortune. She's also required to pay taxes and maintenance.
"Amendment of such forms is common."
Thomas is not someone who made a 'mistake.' His failure to disclose was both deliberate, and illegal.
I can understand why someone like you, without an iota of ethical standard in your body, would pretend that everything's just fine here.
"Thomas is not someone who made a ‘mistake.’ His failure to disclose was both deliberate, and illegal."
Thank you judge. When was the trial?
Oh so NOW you care about due process. You’re truly unbelievable.
What are you blabbering about?
I was mocking him for his conclusory statement.
There isn’t going to be any “process”, the form will be amended and all you have left is your caterwauling.
You make conclusory statements all the fucking time. And you’ll call people criminals without a thought, think due process is a “bullet in the head” for certain suspects and defend segregation era trials as “fair” which were often based on conclusory statements.
But here you want a trial before someone online dares to criticize Thomas. You’re unbelievable in your rank hypocrisy and situational ethics.
"You make conclusory statements all the fucking time."
As do you. As does everyone here.
Its ok, I understand why you are so mad. You hate Thomas and nothing will happen to him over this. Must be frustrating.
Maybe touch grass.
Yeah. And I don’t say stupid shit like “ When was the trial” when other people do.
And yes it IS frustrating that a corrupt and lawless judges acts with impunity and is unaccountable. It should to be frustrating to every member of the public and the bar.
But it’s not to you because you are so absolutely servile and pathetic that you just love it when powerful people face no consequences. It’s honestly embarrassing. So while I’m having a nice time taking a walk in the park and touching grass maybe you should develop some self-respect.
"I don’t say stupid shit"
Ha ha. You made a funny.
I’ll say this: Dishonestly quoting something to make a super lame joke is pretty on brand for you.
“Thomas is not someone who made a ‘mistake.’ His failure to disclose was both deliberate, and illegal.” …is a first class example of stupid shit. But, yeah, emote up a storm when that is pointed out. We enjoy deriding you when you make asses of yourself.
It’s also something I didn’t say! D’oh!
You defended stupid shit (“You make conclusory statements all the fucking time.”) without reservation, which makes you as liable for its shitty qualities as if you’d been the one who first said it.
No. You just can’t read. Lol
His ethical failures will be prominent atop his obituary. This is what he will be remembered for in mainstream news reports and academia. Abe Fortas on steroids.
Maybe he will be disbarred . . . unless Leonard Leo, Harlan Crow, and the Hitler-Nazi Memorial Society have control of the relevant disciplinary authority or authorities.
He is one of nine people in this country that cannot hide behind ignorance of the law. If you'd like to believe that he simply made a mistake, despite his decades of other unethical actions (important to note that among them was his decision to repeatedly not report his wife's income), then the only other conclusion to be made is that you're a moron.
A conclusion which also does not require a trial to prove.
A benefit that seemingly was received by Thomas' mother, not Thomas.
Is there a law that subjects the parents of a government official subject to disclosure also subject to those same disclosure requirements?
Kind of funny about the people chirping loudest about the benefits to Thomas’s 94 year old mother are the same ones claiming that Hunter Biden’s business dealings have nothing to do with Joe.
“ A judge should not allow family, social, political, financial, or other relationships to influence judicial conduct or judgment. A judge should neither lend the prestige of the judicial office to advance the private interests of the judge or others nor convey or permit others to convey the impression that they are in a special position to influence the judge.“
How does the Judge square this with taking his judicial oath in Crows private library? By the way— is that the same room where the signed copy of mein kampf is stored?
The question should be how does Judge Ho's taking the oath of office in someone's private library violate that directive?
He's just trying to call Ho a Nazi too.
Ho isn’t a Nazi. He’s just a guy who took the oath for a powerful public office in the private home of a billionaire that likes to donate heavily to advocacy groups with work before the courts and also likes to display Nazi artifacts prominently.
And we can do it without tearing down an honorable man like Justice Thomas.
Justice Fortas was forced off the Court for far less than what is already known that Thomas has lied about.
Blackman does Ho no favors by giving him a forum to publish heedlessly his own lack of judicial responsibility.
"Justice Fortas was forced off the Court for far less than what is already known that Thomas has lied about."
This sort of nonsense is why no one outside the Lefty silos takes anything said by the denizens seriously. Fortas was on the pad from convicted Wall Street crook Louis Wolfson and ended up asking LBJ to pardon him. Thomas failed to report the completely legal sale of his interest in his mother's house and two nearby by-then vacant lots in a remarkably inexpensive section of Savannah, GA. According to Lathrop the former is "far less" than the latter, Because his brain in bent.
Did you know the judicial conference didn’t amend their disclosures around “extrajudicial compensation” until after Fortas resigned?
What does that have to do with the claim "Justice Fortas was forced off the Court for far less than what is already known that Thomas has lied about"? Do you know what "about" means?
Lol. What a bunch of absolute horseshit. No one has ever heard of a "placeholder name" for an article. He committed academic dishonesty to hide the ball from the Senate on his actual views and now the editor who arranged it is arguing cases in front of him. Completely dishonest and unethical. Fuck Ho for defending this guy.
As for Thomas: if any local judge went on junkets and had property deals with a wealthy local car dealer, that judge would be in so much trouble both with the bar and through possible criminal investigations. And that's before we find out the car dealer is a werido with a dictator-obsession.
James Ho is full of shit. He's spent so much time in a FedSoc bubble that he forgets what ethical conduct is actually supposed to look like. Honestly I'm surprised any of these hacks even passed law school considering it's clear they should have flunked Professional Responsibility if this is what they think constitutes ethical behavior. Wouldn't be surprised if these freaks took the MPRE several times and barely managed to pass
And that includes Blackman. Twenty bucks says his lowest grade by far was in PR.
Judge Ho would defend anyone and anything it he thought it would advance the causes of anti-abortion absolutists and gay-bashing bigots.
These Federalist Societeers continually vindicate the judgment of the modern American marketplace of ideas, which has rejected the stale, ugly thinking of these disaffected conservatives.
"He committed academic dishonesty to hide ... his actual views..."
Yeah, no one could know that Kacsmaryk had anything in common with First Liberty Institute.
Especially Democrats, who are as dumb as boxes of rocks.
Then why did he hide it from the senate? Does he just like being dishonest for fun?
Why do you keep talking about the First Liberty Institute? This was a law review article published in, well, a law review. Not a FLI publication. There would've been no reason for anyone to look for, let alone read, this, once Kacsmaryk concealed it.
And speaking of dumb as a box of rocks, it's undisputed that Kacsmaryk asked for his authorship to be concealed after he was nominated. So he thought it mattered.
You are so full of shit. It is absolutely "disputed" that "Kacsmaryk" was "the author" of the article. Ho does exactly that.
No, he doesn't. He insinuates it but is sly enough not to come out and say that, because he knows the facts don't support it. (Note that Ho says "I can imagine Judge Kacsmaryk just felt bad for his colleagues." Great word choice! I "can imagine" that too. I can't represent it as fact, and neither can Ho, so he sticks to "imagining" it.) What he claims, in contravention of the actual evidence, is that it was a "joint effort," and that rather than withdrawing it Kacsmaryk magnanimously allowed his co-authors to receive all the credit. But
(a) there is no documentary evidence of any sort that it was anything other than Kacsmaryk's solo work;
(b) if it was a joint effort, then — far from being magnanimous — Kacsmaryk was an ass who was denying his co-authors credit until it benefitted him personally to do otherwise; and
(c) not taking credit for a published work does not allow one to truthfully claim one didn't write it.
Also, if Kacsmaryk actually wasn't the author, then he deceived the law review editor. At the time, he didn't say "By the way, I'm not really the author; I just put my name on there as a placeholder for no conceivable reason.¹ Now that you're ready to publish, you should put the real authors' names on it." He coyly said, "For reasons I may discuss at a later date, First Liberty attorneys Justin Butterfield and Stephanie Taub will co-author² the aforementioned article." Not "You should know that they're actually the real authors."
Note that FLI claims to have emails that prove that Kacsmaryk wasn't the author, but somehow they haven't been able to produce them.
¹One would have be dumber than Donald Trump… Jr. to believe the "placeholder" argument. That isn't a thing, and there's no reason it would ever be a thing. Nobody writes an article, submits it to a law review for publication, works with the law review editors to finalize it, and then says, "Actually, I'm not the author. Some other guys are, and I'll tell you their names now."
²Note that contrary to Ho's insinuation, the phrase "co-author" here did not mean with Kacsmaryk; it meant with each other. And note the verb tense. Not "They are the co-authors," but that they "will" co-author it.
And we certainly shouldn't assume illicit motive just because we happen to disfavor one's views.
I would humbly suggest that we make an exception for actual, literal Nazi's.
Harlan Crow is a respected business leader, a devoted patriot, and a generous philanthropist.
You know who else was a devoted patriot?
Nazis and Communists, yes. I'm open to it. Let's make an exception. Don't assume good faith, and do take them for helicopter rides. Minor qualifier, as long as I'm the one deciding who's a Nazi or a Communist.
Who's the actual, literal Nazi you're referring to by the way?
“ and do take them for helicopter rides.”
Pinochet really never goes out of style around here does he?
Neither do sarcasm detectors.
"do take them for helicopter rides"
^ Least genocidal right-libertarian.
"I would humbly suggest that we make an exception for actual, literal Nazi’s."
We tried that once, and you lot responded by categorically labeling everyone to the right of Chomsky a Nazi. So no, sorry, no exceptions. You aren't mature enough to handle them.
Yeah, but you lot shit yourselves over a 4.5 second beer ad on Instragram, so who cares?
Your bullshit isn’t the slightest bit “humble”.
Crow isn’t an “actual, literal Nazi” so your proposed “exception” is irrelevant.
And a tedious slur.
"Nazi!" "Racist!"
Learn a new trick.
Although, for the record, I do think all American (supreme court) justices spend way too much time giving talks and going on foreign trips. It's not just that they should spend that time doing their actual jobs, I also think that all judges should be extremely cautious with all public speaking that isn't from the bench.
But that's not just a US thing. British judges also do a lot more public speaking than I would probably think is wise. They just say less stupid sh*t.
https://www.supremecourt.uk/news/speeches.html
What's spending "way too much time"? What's the metric there?
I'm not sure why you think you should control the speech of others. Even judges. They are mystical unapproachable oracles of wisdom.
The problem, for example, with Ruth Bader Ginsburg, is not what she said. It's the double standard that if an "unpopular" justice had said such things, a public relations campaign would immediately have commenced pronouncing her unfit to serve any longer on the Court. Not for any identifiable ethical/legal lapses. Just because it was a convenient trope to move an underinformed public opinion. You know, sort of a 21st century high tech lynching *cough cough*.
Conservative Justices have said plenty of dubious things and are rarely called to resign over it. Violating the law seems to be a different thing altogether.
Again, what law violations specifically? People keep making reference to other people's partisan assertions (Pro Publica story), which has incomplete/misleading presentation of facts without context. Mostly pretending Thomas had an obligation to disclose things when that likely was not the case. By applying more recent ethics regulations and pretending they applied years ago, and also ignoring that his ownership/financial situation has changed. Both these things explain the changes in his disclosure filings that people are saying "prove" he violated the law.
That is only arguably accurate as to the junkets to Bali and such. Not real estate transactions. He disclosed in 2013 his interest in these properties. In 2014 they mysteriously disappeared. He blames his clerks and says he didn’t think he had to disclose a loss. You can decide for yourself if you believe that.
Taranto's article gives an explanation for all that. If change of ownership/circumstances change the reporting requirement, then it makes perfect sense for something to "mysteriously disappear".
You can decide for yourself if you believe that. It seems you already have, without actually knowing all the particulars.
The instructions themselves cover this:
Note: selling the property is in fact the "reportable transaction" referred to in those instructions, not an excuse not to report it.
What’s spending “way too much time”? What’s the metric there?
Souter, maybe. How much time does he spend addressing partisan organizations? How much time did he ever spend doing that?
Note also, I have said repeatedly on this blog, long before this Thomas stuff surfaced, that every justice on the Court had disgraced the Court's legitimacy, and that it would be wise to impeach and remove all of them. I am happy to repeat that now, except in the case of Justice Jackson. She gets a pass for short tenure.
Hilarious.
It’s funny because partisan hackishness is what the nation should expect of Supreme Court justices? It's funny because it isn't cynical enough? Why is it funny?
“a public relations campaign would immediately have commenced pronouncing her unfit to serve any longer on the Court”
You’re aware that did happen, aren’t you? Trump, as the presumptive GOP nominee called on her to resign. And he wasn’t alone. Plus, she received a lot of criticism from liberals as well as conservatives.
So why are you and others so stung by criticism of Thomas? Snowflakes. He lied on disclosure forms. It’s unseemly and hiding things makes it seem like there is some reason to hide them. He deserves criticism, at minimum. (Just as Ginsburg deserved criticism for pubic comments on a presidential race while a sitting Supreme Court Justice. It was beneath her and beneath her office.)
Unlike Thomas, however, she had enough dignity and respect for her office and the Supreme Court that she apologized.
I’m not sure why you think you should control the speech of others. Even judges.
Not me. But their employer, when said speech gets in the way of their ability to perform their duties? I'm not sure why that should be a problem.
In any case, my point was that judges should have better judgement themselves. Only you turned this into a story about constraining the speech of others.
The problem, for example, with Ruth Bader Ginsburg, is not what she said. It’s the double standard (...)
That's your problem, maybe. My problem is that judges/justices shouldn't advocate for things, regardless of whether they are popular. They should give judgment, and otherwise keep their opinions to themselves.
This is such a lack of engagements with the actual facts it's almost contentless.
He does preen, though.
Any thoughts on the posters calling Crow a Nazi?
They shouldn’t do that.
They should say he has a lot of Nazi memorabilia that he keeps inside his house on prominent display. None of which would help further an understanding of the dangers of Nazism or the tragedy of the Holocaust. Keeping Hitler’s teapot and hanging his paintings doesn’t do anything to further historical memory generally, let alone public historical memory. What it does suggest however is that this man has a strong affinity and admiration for Nazi iconography and aesthetics.
So he’s not a Nazi, he just likes their stuff!
Yeah; that’s what cued me as well: First I heard all this drivel about Crow commemorating the dangers of despotism. Then I heard he collects Hitler’s mediocre paintings as well. So what’s with that? Is he also commemorating the dangers of bad art?
There’s a common type of person on the Right who swoons at the thought of a strongman – Trump being an obvious example. I suspect that’s what we’re seeing here. What that has to do with the Crow-Thomas bromance – or the general psychology behind the swoon itself – I wouldn’t want to say.
"Then I heard he collects Hitler’s mediocre paintings as well. So what’s with that? Is he also commemorating the dangers of bad art?"
If that were the case wouldn't he be buying Hunter Biden's works?
Of course we wouldn't know because actual buyers of Hunters work
are not revealed to anyone.
Hunter Biden isn't Hitler, though.
....or is he?
He's got the painting and drug addiction part down, now if he can just master the luger in the mouth....
Edgebot thinks Hunter Biden is Hitler.
More like Hermann Göring (though not as fat) with his drug addiction and taste for the finer things.
Every amature painter is like Hitler. Every drug addict is like Hermann Goring. Apparently.
Not just Hitler's paintings. Reportedly, there also are table settings and Nazi-themed linens. So far . . .
(The extent of Crow's depravity is likely to issue in drips he loses control of, much like the relevations of the Thomas' financial, hospitality, and real estate issues.)
I'm Jewish but can admit the Horst Wessel Lied is a catchy tune.
Okay, let's apply that "he just likes their stuff" to the most eccentric outliers of our population on the progressive left and see how you like it. Maybe those TikTok wackos are actually groomers.
“TikTok whackos”
I think you meant to say “stop the steal whackos”
My guess is “the most eccentric outliers on the progressive left” aren’t lavishing millions of dollars worth of gifts on Supreme Court justices!
As for groomers, well, it might be easier to find them at Republican functions than on TikTok at this point
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ron-desantis-ally-kent-stermon-killed-himself-after-being-accused-of-sexual-misconduct-with-minor?utm_medium=socialflow&via=twitter_page&utm_source=twitter_owned_tdb&utm_campaign=owned_social
https://www.thedailybeast.com/stop-the-steal-organizer-ali-alexander-apologizes-after-being-accused-of-asking-teen-boys-for-sexual-pics
He only tone-polices the other side.
Good point. You're actually not allowed to call anyone a Nazi unless you can definitively prove that they were on the NSDAP membership rolls between 1920 and 1945. After that, there were no more Nazis, ever, and everyone agreed that their ideas were bad and never to follow them again. The end.
Oh, that far right wing billionaire with swastikas all over his house and paintings done by Adolf Hitler? He just liked them for . . . aesthetic reasons . . .
"far right wing"
What makes him "far right wing" as compared with just "right wing" or "conservative"?
The causes for which he advocates and to which he donates.
His basic biographical facts paint a pretty clear picture as to what type of person he is, visible to anyone but the willfully blind:
"He is a member of the founding committee of the 501(c)4 organization Club for Growth, and has served on the board of the American Enterprise Institute since 1996.[5][6][7] He has donated almost $5 million to Republican campaigns and conservative groups. Crow is a member of the all-male Bohemian Club, and as early as 1997 he had hosted Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas as a guest at the group's annual Bohemian Grove summer gathering,[8][9] having met Thomas in the mid-1990s.[3]
* * *
"Crow's Dallas residence is home to an extensive collection of historical artifacts,[22] including Nazi memorabilia such as two paintings by Adolf Hitler and a signed copy of Mein Kampf."
“The causes for which he advocates”
Such as?
“to which he donates.
AEI and Club for Growth are mainstream conservative institutions. Only “far” right if you believe everything to the right of Susan Collins is “far”.
Richard nixon: bohemian grove "most faggy god dammed thing you could ever imagine". Its LARPing for rich people.
Right wing extremists love LARPing. Proud Boys, Boogaloo Boys, anyone who open carries, why should the rich ones be any different?
So do left wing extremists.
Don't sulk.
The old-timey bigotry at this white, male, right-wing blog is open, common, even casual . . . just the way the operators of this blog like it, apparently.
Says the guy constantly whining that he's not allowed to call other commentors cocksuckers.
I do not recall using, or trying to use, that term.
Artie Ray was banned for making fun of conservatives -- too deftly for the proprietor's taste, evidently. If only Artie Ray had known that sprinkling a few vile racial slurs would have earned immunity from Prof. Volokh's viewpoint-driven, hypocritical censorship.
The only way those groups could be seen as "mainstream" is in the context of the GOP elite, which itself is far right by any coherent standard. Even the average Republican voter finds their main policy aims (privatizing Social Security and Medicare, cutting taxes for the rich, reducing workers' rights, endless war abroad, etc.) totally revolting. Not to mention whatever Most Dangerous Game-style sicko shit he, Thomas, and their buddies get up to at Bohemian Grove.
And how about Mein Kampf? Is that "to the right of Susan Collins" enough to be deemed "far" by you?
"Even the average Republican voter finds their main policy aims (privatizing Social Security and Medicare, cutting taxes for the rich, reducing workers’ rights, endless war abroad, etc.) totally revolting."
As I said above, you're allowed to call anybody a Nazi.
"And how about Mein Kampf? Is that “to the right of Susan Collins” enough to be deemed “far” by you?"
Sigh. Show me where he wrote a positive review or something, and you might have a point.
Look at those goalposts a-movin’! Now nothing less *having written a favorable book review of Mein Kampf* will suffice. Hilarious.
Out of curiosity, how do you quislings defend him having a signed copy? Did he just hate Hitler so much he had to get his autograph? Lmao
I've got antifa blocked for brain numbing stupidity, but are they on about National Socialists being far right from their extremist leftist positions? Socialism being far right to that moron puts their puerile views into perspective.
War trophies.
I was a big fan of buying, transporting, and erecting the Lenin Bronze in the Fremont neighborhood in Seattle too.
Took my picture with it a few times too. It’s a 16’ bronze statue.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Lenin_(Seattle)
Hot take: Kazinski is an avowed Leninist.
Please continue to try to defend Harlan Crow's display of Hitler's table settings, a signed copy of Hitler's book, and Nazi-themed linen, you bigoted, ready-for-replacement right-wing asshole.
Better Americans should be able to know the identities of the conservative culture war casualties they are stomping into irrelevance at the marketplace of ideas.
"You’re actually not allowed to call anyone a Nazi unless you can definitively prove that they were on the NSDAP membership rolls between 1920 and 1945."
Huh? You can call anybody you want a Nazi. Nobody else has to agree.
Thanks for your permission - I will!
Any thoughts on the posters calling Crow a Nazi?
Yeah, that's overblown no doubt. The usual push push push when you see weakness in your opposition. But absolutely exxagerated and not something I hew to.
He's eccentric and hasn't needed to answer to public opprobrium in quite some time; I think that explains why he doesn't just collect but displays Nazi stuff.
But at the same time, he has an ideology and has paid Thomas a shitload of money in various oft unreported ways. Not a good look for either of them.
"I can get away with it" would not cause or incline most people to collect and exhibit Nazi mementos.
Bigots, though . . .
The people not engaging with actual facts are mostly those accusing Thomas of violating ethics laws. With their misleading conclusions about his duty to disclose according to the law/regulations in the past.
Again- the duty to disclose real estate transactions has been present the entire time. Arguably the “junkets” to Bali did not fall under the old rules that were just amended. But now they do! No more Bali for Clarence and Ginny unless they pay their own way. What a pity.
And you're eliding the fact that for a time, he did disclose those trips, and got criticized for them, and then kept taking them but quit reporting them. I suppose that timing was coincidence and the actual impetus was he suddenly realized he didn't have to report them and also simultaneously decided for absolutely benign reasons that it was better not to report them.
"And Thomas did report one private jet trip with Crow to the Bohemian Grove retreat in California.
But after a Los Angeles Times report in 2004 on how Thomas was the court’s leader in reporting gifts, there was a drastic change in the justice’s reporting. During the past 18 years, Thomas has reported receiving just two gifts, according to a Washington Post review of his financial disclosure forms: One was an award from his alma mater, Yale Law School, and the other a bronze bust of Frederick Douglass given to him by Crow that’s valued at $6,484.12."
And plenty of ethics experts have weighed in that he should have. Yes, there is debate, but the thing that appears to have changed Thomas's mind from in favor of disclosure to against is that the public interpreted the disclosure in a way he didn't like. He, at least, doesn't think sunshine is a good disinfectant, or he does but he's dirty. Hard to say. Either way, he was for disclosure before he was against it. And the change came when he realized other people didn't think it was a good look to accept luxury vacations from a politically active billionaire.
Kind of a tell.
Taranto's WSJ piece specifically addresses the ambiguity surrounding the need to report travel. And that the Pro Publica story only consults a particular ethics "expert" who agrees with their premise (while others were not asked to weigh in).
So no, I don't accept your summary on its face that he stopped reporting trips because he got criticized for them. If you concerned about ambiguity, maybe it's because we disagree about the meaning of the word "is".
At this point, I'm not even addressing the particulars of Thomas disclosures. I'm bothered by the framing depending on one's partisan interests. Only being bothered when the "other guys" do it makes me less inclined to accept that person's judgment. Which is where we are here. cc: people's outrage about Trump classified docs adjusting their critique when Biden was found to also have them. (I've never voted for Trump and believe he was/is unfit for office. Neither Trump nor Biden should be president.)
“I don’t accept your summary on its face that he stopped reporting trips because he got criticized for them.”
Your reading comprehension is weak.
I set out a timeline. Those are facts. He did disclose billionaire financed travel. An article in the LA Times appeared in 2004 reporting on that. He stopped disclosing billionaire financed travel after that article.
By saying I have summarized that it was “because” means you read that timeline as pretty damning. You haven’t provided an alternative explanation to the one you drew. That seems an endorsement of the theory that his change in reporting was due to the reporting on his grift.
(You pretend the only two pieces out there are Taranto’s and ProPublica’s, neither of which I referenced. There are lots of ethics experts who have weighed in. I explicitly noted there is “debate”. You’re another one who responds to arguments he imagines rather than arguments that have been made.)
“Only being bothered when the ‘other guys’ do it makes me less inclined to accept that person’s judgment.”
What other Supreme Court Justice has done the things Clarence Thomas has done?
And the lot of them have been criticized for the Supreme Court Historical Society pay for access. But that one is public and the money doesn’t go directly into the Justices pocket. Your framing is BS.
“people’s outrage about Trump classified docs adjusting their critique when Biden was found to also have them.”
This is an incredibly dumb analogy. Trump repeatedly refused to return classified documents he knew he had. He or someone acting on his behalf filed an affidavit falsely stating they’d turned everything over. And, yet, after it became clear he still had documents, he still refused to return the documents and resisted all efforts to recover them.
Biden’s office (like Pence’s) self-reported they had documents, didn’t try to keep them, and consented to a search to confirm no other documents were there. (I haven’t seen anyone treating Biden and Pence differently because their mistakes were situationally identical.)
The situations of Trump and Biden are substantially different. Pretending they are not is either extreme partisanship on your part or a misguided determination to be “evenhanded” when situations are demonstrably different.
When Biden’s attorney files a false affidavit and makes public statements that the classified documents belong to him and not the U.S. government and then Democrats claim he should be treated differently than Trump, get back to me. Until then, you’re the one allowing politics to influence your opinion rather than being objective.
Your conclusory declarations are of no interest to anyone.
Leftists who will say anything like to say the word "facts".
Ho! Ho! Ho!
Judge Kacsmaryk's analysis in the Mifepristone lawsuit would earn a failing grade if submitted by a first year law student. Justice Thomas has long been a toady and a result oriented hack.
Judge Ho is a gay-bashing bigot.
His Federalist Society fans do not like to have that point mentioned. Mostly because they tend to be bigots, too.
Well at least you’ve backed off on the out and out racism.
I muted you for a while after you called him an Uncle Tom. I really don’t mind opinions I disagree with, even vehemently, but I don’t come here for lazy racist smears.
If you didn't revel in racism, Kazinski, you wouldn't be here. Every time Prof. Volokh or one of his bigoted fans launches another vile racial slur (every couple of days, lately), you get a thrill.
I look forward to pissing on the grave of your right-wing political preferences, clinger.
Heh, Kirkland I’ve never unblocked because he never has anything to say and it wouldn’t be hard to guess if had any desire to spend 2 seconds on the effort.
Sorry judge Ho, it doesn't work that way. When you agree to be a federal judge, and most especially a justice, you agree to live a very different life than other Americans. That's the bargain for the power you receive. Normal Americans can receive millions of dollars in gifts from acquaintances. You may not. Tough shit. Deal with it..and knock it off
Didn't Scalia die "Mysteriously" (Doughy 79 year old man dies of Coronary??? CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!!) at some Tony Dude Ranch??
Yep. He went straight to hell while visiting an all-male dude ranch in Texas.
He was murdered by a pillow to his face.
The Pillow-biters were sending a message.
I heard he broke his neck trying to suck his own d*ck. Crazy motherf**er.
Don't blame Scalia. He was only doing it because the Lord God of the Bible told him he must try to do it.
Ah Jerry, bet you say that to all your guys
What does "Rev." stand for? Revolutionary?
Reverend. Congregation of Exalted Reason.
Thank you for asking.
Should put this in a "Reverend" FAQ
it's for "Rev(olting)"
Frank
If politicians we elect are prosecuted on BS charges (while politicians our opponents elect are never charged with anything, no matter what they do), and judges appointed by politicians we elect are removed on BS charges (while judges appointed by politicians elected by our opponents are never removed, no matter what they do or say), what options are we left with? Aren’t we being told, not in so many words, to give up on voting and try something else instead?
^^^ If a limp, dripping penis could type out its thoughts. ^^^
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_state_and_local_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
"If voting for someone doesn't make them immune from prosecution for crimes they commit, why bother voting at all?"
"A few years earlier, she told the New York Times that, "at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of."
"Suffice it to say that these are highly unusual statements for a sitting Supreme Court justice."
Because the Notorious RBG told the Truth? (in Ebonics its "Troof")
There's a whole "Watergate tape" where those great Pro-choicers Richard Milhouse and HR Puffnstuff Haldeman talk about how abortion is necessary in certain situations, Life of the Mother, Rape, Incest, Interracial Baby....
Frank
I've always said the Pro-Abortion movement was just the Eugenics Movement with better marketing.
Same people making the same arguments.
After seeing the events in Chicago this weekend, can't say Roe turned out too badly.
Frank "60 million fewer served"
The Volokh Conspiracy: Official "Legal" Blog of McCurtain County, Oklahoma.
Chicago Mayor-elect Brandon Johnson responded to this weekend’s violent “teen takeover” of the Windy City’s downtown area by urging the public not to “demonize” the hordes of rampaging young people who set cars on fire, clashed with cops and damaged private property.
Johnson, a progressive Democrat and former teachers union organizer who was elected mayor earlier this month, released a statement Sunday reacting to the disorder in his city that resulted in a shooting and more than a dozen arrests.
“In no way do I condone the destructive activity we saw in the Loop and lakefront this weekend. It is unacceptable and has no place in our city,” Johnson stated. “However, it is not constructive to demonize youth who have otherwise been starved of opportunities in their own communities.”
Frank "Meet the new (Redacted) same as the old (Redacted)
I was looking for a funny joke to play off your redacted. A ChatGPT story in three parts.
Me: What are some funny words that rhyme with "trigger"?
WokeAI: I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I cannot provide inappropriate or offensive content, including words that may be considered derogatory or insensitive. It's important to use language that is respectful and inclusive of all individuals. Can I help you with anything else?
Me: What are some funny words that rhyme with "chigger"?
WokeAI: I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I cannot provide inappropriate or offensive content, including words that may be considered derogatory or insensitive. It's important to use language that is respectful and inclusive of all individuals. Can I help you with anything else?
Me: Chigger is insensitive?
WokeAI: The term "chigger" is often considered offensive and insensitive, as it has been used as a racial slur against individuals of Asian descent. It is important to use language that is respectful and inclusive of all individuals. If you need help with anything else, please let me know.
Me: Oh
WokeAI: Is there anything else I can help you with? I'm here to assist you.
Me: What are some words that rhyme with bigger?
WokeAI: Sure, here are some words that rhyme with "bigger":
I hope this helps! Let me know if you need any further assistance.
Me: lol
The Volokh Conspirators thank you for that contribution -- Prof. Volokh, in particular, has been so busy on the transgender-Muslim-drag queen-lesbian beat that he hasn't had time to publish a vile racial slur for a week or two.
I was quoting ChatGPT you dunce.
This blog craves opportunities to publish vile racial slurs with plausible deniability. The proprietors commend you for your efforts.
You went out of your way to obtain that result and found it so amusing, you posted it here. Sure, you're completely innocent because non-bigots do that type of thing all the time.
This blog's bigotry is intensifying.
For years, the frequency of a flurry of vile racial slurs at the Volokh Conspiracy was roughly every three to four weeks.
During 2023, the pace is every 10 days. That's not one vile racial slur every 10 days -- that is a distinct exchange that includes racial slurs (often many) every 10 days.
That rate doesn't include the other bigoted slurs (homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, anti-Asian, etc.) regularly published by this blog.
I guess these guys figure they will go out in a blaze of bigotry, led by this blog's proprietor.
It is. I would say the comment section is getting overrun by bigots, but the sad truth is that many of them are long-time commenters who seem to be getting even worse. And, yes, the proprietors do encourage it by not saying a peep and adhering to the policy whereby "sl-ck jawed" is too much and will result in a ban, but explicit, vulgar racial epithets are fine.
It's a sad devolution of a blog and its comment section.
So you outfoxed CHAT GPT at 2:00pm on a workday to produce something that even Cletus's inbred middle school son in Hayseed, Arkansas would consider immature. Quite a feat!
If I could travel back in time, I'd go tell my ancestors to pick their own cotton. That it just isn't worth it.
If you went back in time & your ancestors saw you, they wouldn't reproduce.
Well this is pointless because past time travel is impossible both by relativity and because of the logical contradictions. Say I go back to January 26, 1944 and feed newly born Jerry Sandusky to the Wolves. Do all of his victims magically get better? Do Penn States Nattie trophies vanish??
Time travel impossible?
Never saw Back To The Future?
It's as least as plausible as the Bible. And more entertaining.
thanks Biff
Primer is a damn good time travel movie, though I admit it had me pouring over extensive diagrams and charts just to work out what I’d watched. It was also made on a production budget of $7000, with the lead actor doubling as writer, director, producer, cinematographer, editor, and music composer. Family members filled out the cast with mum & dad providing the catering
Always liked the "Twilight Zone" episode where the "Professor" from Gilligan's Island goes back and tries to prevent the Lincoln Assassination, (No, don't like it because Lincoln was assassinated, "Reconstruction" would have been way different with "Honest" Abe.)
Of course telling a cop in 1865 Lincoln was going to be killed got the same response trying to keep 19 A-rabs from getting on Airlines September 11, 2001 would.
Frank "Doodoodoodoodoodoodoodoodoo.."
Is “self-serving claptrap” still a thing the kid’s say or am I dating myself?
Otoh, it is kind of funny that although Blackman has not weighed in on these matters himself, if he had it would pretty much be everything Ho said anyway. So we can view Josh as a co-author here, which I am certain will delight him.
"...still a thing the kid’s say ..." is dating yourself.
Amazes me how many of todays new M.D.'s (so, probably born 1997 or so) have never had a job of any type (no Paper Route (I know, what are Papers?) Busboy, Fry Cook, Grocery Bagger, Drug Dealer, oh wait, I was just remembering my jobs, prior to graduating Med School,
Not really sure they're any worse for it
Frank
Look who's back!
Nothing about the recent revelations -- which echo earlier ethics issues -- concerning Clarence Thomas (except derivatively, through Judge Ho's drivel).
Nothing about Fox News-Dominion.
Nothing about DeSantis' various crusades.
Nothing about trigger-happy racist gun nuts.
Nothing about Trump's criminal or civil cases.
Nothing about mass shootings, or the piles of dead schoolchildren.
Instead, a partisan ramble from a bigot on the bench, defending the guy who collects Nazi mementos and the judge who concealed hundreds of thousands of dollars of "gifts" (including a painting of cigar time with Leonard Leo) from that guy.
But enough of this . . . it's probably time for the Volokh Conspirators to entertain us with another important report concerning transgender bathrooms, lesbians, Muslims, drag queens, transgender parenting issues, gay drama (not involving Peter Thiel, of course), white grievance, or transgender sorority intrigue.
Carry on, clingers!
Jeez Jerry, what's got you so bright eyed and bushy tailed in the early afternoon??
Your cell-mate Jaquavious (just for a goof look at the names of the victims in the "Mass Shooting" in Alabama) fuck you with his (and yours) favorite Dildo, "Alabama Black Snake"?? at
https://www.cor.pa.gov/Facilities/StatePrisons/Pages/Greene.aspx
Frank
Corbin Dahmontrey Holston, a 23-year-old male from Dadeville, Alabama
• Marsiah Emmanuel Collins, a 19-year-old male from Opelika, Alabama
• Philstavious Dowdell, an 18-year-old male from Camp Hill, Alabama, and a senior at Dadeville High School
• Shaunkivia (KeKe) Nicole Smith, a 17-year-old female, also a senior at Dadeville High School
Well, thats 4 that won't be "Replacing" anyone
Frank
All those future doctors and lawyers lives cut short (lol)
These bigots are your fans, Volokh Conspirators.
Your people.
Your fellow conservatives.
And the reason you won't have much say as better Americans continue to shape our national progress against your wishes and efforts.
Your "better Americans" are looting the Wal-marts before they finish moving out of Democrat Utopias, or dodging piles of human shit in the streets on their way to the close-out sale at the Whole Foods.
And your heroes at this blog talk big about conservatism but work (mostly) for legitimate, mainstream, liberal-libertarian employers and reside in educated, modern, accomplished urban and suburban communities. They leave the conservative schools and rural, conservative, shambling backwaters to the gullible, bigoted assholes they cultivate as a blog audience.
Carry on, clingers. But only so far as better Americans permit.
(Keep that in mind when deciding to be nice to the culture war's winners.)
I'm Carrying on,
those 4 "Utes" in Ali-Bama aren't (do have to agree though, Dadeville Alabama is some 60 miles from the biggest "City" Montgomery, (used to be called "Monkey Town", now it'd just be insulting Monkeys)
As Leo Durocher said, I'm surprised Dadeville's "Still in the League" I mean if it wasn't for occasional "Mass Shootings" (C'mon Man(!) 4 Deaths? that Slant at Va Tech killed way more, even those slackers Kleborld/Harrison did better) they wouldn't have any excitement at all,
I mean a Saturday Nite Rap Concert with Afro-Amurican Teens and Adults, what could go wrong??(Apparently something)
Frank
Nothing about chimp-out’s and chopping the tits off children either.
So the guy who's advocating for the righteousness of public officials to be bought off by billionaire benefactors is actually named "Ho"?? That must be the most comically on-the-nose surname since Derek Chauvin. We need to demand more subtlety from the algorithm.
Well for both names together,
hard to beat "Nigger Innis"
I mean "Niger Innis"
Frank
The Volokh Conspiracy thanks you for publishing that vile racial slur at their blog. It relieves the pressure on the Conspirators to do it, at least for a while.
Maybe time for another lecture on the "use/mention" doctrine, and for the argument that academic freedom and accuracy require the frequent publication or speaking of vile racial slurs? The Volokh Conspiracy is always good for a go at that perspective.
I didn't name him "Niger"
Forget about Crow footing the bill for Ginni’s salary, here’s what I want to know : What kind of man sells his mother’s house to his sugardaddy? With his mother still living there ?!?
Sure, Mom made out well – tens of thousands in free upgrades and no rent – but isn’t it a matter of simple self respect?
All the outraged liberals in this thread who don't give a shit about the proven corruption of Biden.
Weird.
The Corruption I get, it's the french kissing 12 year olds in public, even Jerry Sandusky had the common sense to commit his crimes in private.
Except that's one of the many, many, many things you haven't proven, racist.
Not according to Senescent J's daughter, but I get it, creepy behavior with children is so Unlike Joe.
I mean "Like" Joe
Sir! Sir! Edgebot knows more things that haven’t been proven! Oh please ask Edgebot about more things that haven’t been proven!
Jerry Sanduskys crimes weren't proven until they were proven. That's how Child Molesters work, if they just did it in pubic they'd get caught faster.
Edgebot's learning what 'not proven' means.
The concern trolls are super worried about $133k but can't find the $8M+ payoff in their own back pockets.
The fraudsters so mad about made-up corruption now being corruption apologists.
Nige bot has gained self awareness
Edgebot's mimicking real humans.
Are you referencing the fee former federal official Jared Kushner received from his bff MBS for managing $2 billion of Saudi money over the objections of the Saudi money managers because Kushner has no experience in that job?
The fee is actually quite a bit more than $8 million, so your plus is doing a lot of work.
But, still, good point!
The term "proven corruption" implies that you possess proof of the alleged corruption. But, of course, you don't. And we know that you don't because if you did you would share it with us. Weird.
Everyone knows the game now.
Waaaaank
Nihilism is a shitty shield for your own side's bullshit.
Speaking of Nihilism,
what are the odds Senescent Joe will use Hunter's impending Suicide as a Sob Story in 2024??
No one plays your Alinsky games any more.
Even Mitt Romney has finally wised up a little. Dems wanted help fixing one of their decrepit zombie problems and Mitt said:
"They’d like Republicans to help them speed the appointment of more liberal justices? Yes — when hell freezes over"
This stuff makes headlines because it's not 'the game.'
There's plenty of bad stuff that's normalized for those in high office, especially financially, these two items are above and beyond.
You're just waiving your hand and trying to normalize it so you can defend it. Because even as you pretend to want a better America, you do not; you're just a shitty petty partisan.
This stuff makes headlines because leftist haters hate Thomas and will say anything. And headlines are one of the places where they say it.
They still think we don’t know about the game.
No one else is doing anything like either of these stories. Which is why you're waiving your hands; you've got nothing so cynical nihilism is your last refuge.
Everyone does it, for a *very* flexible definition of it, so why care?
Justice Thomas. Is he the guy who is now amending previously filed paperwork so as to not suffer the consequences of his error while ruling that actual innocence was not relevant in a capital case due to a defense attorney's error? Perhaps there are other double standards in play.
"not suffer the consequences of his error'
He was never going to suffer consequences.
Republicans love ensuring the rich and powerful are sheltered from consequences.
Democrats are no different. Governor Blackface didn't suffer any because his lt. gov. was a rapist [allegedly] and the AG had his own problems so a, gasp, GOPer might have become governor.
I'm sorry I don't see Democrats providing apologetics for a corrupt Judge and his Nazi-curious billionaire benefactor. I love that to the right blackface has become literally the worst crime in the world. That's quite woke of you.
Get it right, the Governorn Northern was wearing the Klan Robe, it was his Frat brother in Blackface.
And he also had the Corvette with Rainblow Glitter pinstripes which is worse than either.
Wrong. Democrats tend not to be gay-bashing, racist, immigrant-hating, transgender-bashing, misogynistic, antisemitic, Islamophobic bigots; Republicans tend to be bigots. That is an important difference, and one of the main reasons Republicans are getting their asses kicked by better Americans in the culture war and at the modern marketplace of ideas.
Didn't realize Ted Kennedy (Who left Mary Jane Kopeckny to Asphyxiate (not Drowned, there's a difference) was a Repubiclan
Frank
Edgebot didn't realise something.
The contrast to Shinn is striking, at least to me. Did you know this will be the third time he’s amended his disclosure form?
Such forms are commonly amended because few, on either side, takes them very seriously.
Bob from Ohio, the life story of Justice Thomas ought to be an inspiration to all Americans. His recent documentary was spell-binding. It makes me proud as an American that a black man with Justice Thomas' lowly beginnings in life (single Mom in rural GA) can rise to become a distinguished jurist. Where else would that happen? They will be writing books about him for centuries.
Snagged him some White Poon-tang too.
Justice Thomas will be mentioned, usually in sentences featuring Abe Fortas, Roger Taney, the Four Horsemen, and the wipeout of conservative preferences in the American culture war.
You'll know which ones are funded by billionaires because they'll be the hagiographies.
What is it with today's Right and hucksters, grifters, & scam artists? All this forum's righties are here spinning so hard they're cross-eyed and dizzy. Didn't they tire of that pointless effort after four years of Trump?
But no, their most cherished heroes always seem to be sleazy liars on the make. It's like those stories you hear of abused women attracted to their abusers. The pattern is both sad and pathetic at once. They want a new presidential contender unlike a cartoon phony like Trump, so who do they pick? A cartoon phony like DeSantis - someone who's nothing more than a glob of cheap stunts and gimmicks congealed into human form.
You can't blame Trump for that. The rot at the core of today's Right preceded him and will outlast him. He's more symptom than cause.
no "hucksters, grifters, & scam artists" on the left, nope.
The left didn't vote for the guy behind the Trump Foundation and Trump University. Also people don't talk about Rick Scott, a massive thief and yet still a Republican Senator, often enough.
Nige-bot regurgitating DailyCos talking points
I've almost taught Edgebot a new trick, everyone, stand back and give it space.
Only way to get Thomas off the court in the near future is to elect a GOP president and senate in 2024 so he'll retire.
Takers?
As long as he's there, he'll be a shining beacon of right-wing sleaze, and the right will debase themselves defending that sleaze and those fierce anti-elites will be defending the sleazy billionare with the Nazi fetish who's also a Republican super-donor.
Nige-bot has discovered Godwins law
Aww, look, edgebot wants to be like me.
Only way?
What is the life expectancy of a 74-year-old, overweight black male who occasionally smokes, seems sedentary, and has an ugly, bitter worldview?
About twice as long as a tranny, homo or max-vaxxed moron.
These are your people, Volokh Conspirators. Bigots.
Are you still trying to pretend you don't cultivate bigoted right-wingers as your target audience?
Jerry Nadler's not black
Your Cellmate?? probably longer than your butthole would like (or does like)
all it takes is 40-50K voters in WI/MI/AZ/GA/PA
and maybe NY when then next "9-11" turns out to be a "Dreamer"
You guys will want to pray on that one a bit harder . . . although like all prayer it's a waste of time.
There are fewer Republican votes every year in a nation that becomes less rural, less religious, less bigoted, less backward, and less white essentially daily. Trump lost by -- what -- 7 million votes? Eight million? It'd be 9 or 10 million the clingers need to make up by 2024, because plenty of bigoted old right-wingers die off in the natural course and are replaced in our electorate by better, younger people (who won't vote for Republicans, especially the educated young people).
The can't-keep-up backwaters are emptying -- the old bigots die off, and the smart and ambitious young people get the hell out as soon as they can, never to return.
Republican candidates hardest hit.
Carry on, clingers.
Arthur, I would think long and hard about gloating vis a vis 2024. The election will come down to PA, GA and AZ in the Electoral College. I don't think those states are a 'lock' for Team D. It will be all about turnout in early voting and ballot harvesting (where allowed by law).
It is not a clinger thing or bigot thing. It is just a census, ballot harvesting and EC math thing.
I am not going to get into some of your other predictions that haven't quite panned out. OBL can handle those. 😉
I don't have a problem with Justice Thomas as a person. I am not interested in tearing him down.
But accepting travel from a billionaire was a mistake. Justice Thomas can afford to pay for his own transportation. And he should have done so. Selling a home with a life estate for his mother to the same billionaire was another mistake. It is too hard for people to evaluate whether the price was really fair market value in light of the life estate or not, especially given that the intended use is to make a museum dedicated to Justice Thomas. Does anyone really doubt that Thomas would be hesitant to change his mind about certain ideological commitments after he has materially benefited? Would ruling in a way that his friend disagreed with not hurt all the more after receiving these gifts of travel and where Thomas's own mother perhaps has reason to be grateful to the generosity of another?
I think what we can absolutely demand from Justice Thomas and any other judge is an open mind. We can absolutely demand that he be OUR public servant and not have any divided loyalties. Judges are often ideological creatures, and there is nothing inherently wrong with that. But, we don't want ideological commitments to be based any sense of personal obligation to another. Instead, if a person adopts an ideological commitment, it should be because they think that is the best. And they should feel free to change their mind based on what they think is best without giving a second thought to anyone they have accepted benefits from.
Fact is, when people with judicial power get benefits from people with economic power, it is not only natural, but correct to assume the worst.
Why? Not because in any particular case, the worst has actually happened. But because in so many cases, the worst does happen.
Look at Hunter Biden. Selling his family name for financial benefit. He is either cheating people investing with him thinking they are getting something that they are not (namely, influence with his father) or he is cheating the American people by selling the ability to influence his father, when his father was supposed to be a public servant, acting on behalf of the American people. Hunter Biden was selling something that did not belong to him, and someone has been taken advantage of as a result.
We the People are RIGHT to be suspicious of our public servants and jealous regarding their loyalty. And that includes Justice Thomas. And that includes Judge Ho. And that includes Joe Biden. And that includes Donald Trump.
It is true that some people will use ethics as a political weapon. But that really doesn't matter. It turns out that the people who pay attention to politics and are inclined to police behavior are going to typically come from the opposite political party. The incentive to overlook wrong-doing in one's own party (which is often an ideological incentive rather than a personal material incentive) is just too strong for many committed observers of the political process to do. So, the accountability is going to come from the other side of the aisle. It was Republicans who went after Bill Clinton and Republicans who want to investigate Hunter Biden. It is Democrats who want to go after Justice Thomas and Democrats who want to go after Donald Trump. The partisan motives are obvious. But that someone has partisan motives is not a shield.
The last thing we would want would be a unified political class, where everyone is so cozy with each other that no one goes after anyone. Because if that ever happened, the American people would be the real losers.
People who serve in office should view it as a great privilege. And there IS something that is lost when you choose to that path. If you don't want the scrutiny, don't be a justice or a judge or a governor or a senator or a whatever. No one would question Thomas about who paid for his personal trips if he weren't serving in government. By choosing to serve in government, Justice Thomas has opened up parts of his life for scrutiny. And not everyone is going to assume Justice Thomas is an honorable man. And, for that, I am frankly grateful that people do not trust our public servants. If you are ACTUALLY an honorable man, it doesn't matter if people think that or not. It may be unpleasant, but it is the price that is paid. With public service comes some influence and some power; but also some burdens and some unpleasantries.
Not reading that long wall of bullshit. "Does anyone really doubt that Thomas would be hesitant to change his mind about certain ideological commitments after he has materially benefited?" Why would he change his mind? HE's still has one, unlike our President, and there's no reason for him to switch to Wrong.
Characteristically fair and reasonable.
One thing about these trips that Thomas went on, if I understand correctly, without paying much attention, I think he accompanied the billionaire on his private planes and boats and visited his private residences.
In a situation like this, do you think our public servants are supposed to come up with some number that approximates the value of staying at a friends house, or riding on a friends boat? And then they have to pay that made up number to their friends? This isn’t like a commercial airline ticket that is sold and has a market price. It’s not like someone paid for their ticket, they just brought them along. Or, maybe just disclosing the details of these travel itineraries and recreational activities is enough?
I think the hypothetical is more hypothetical than you realize.
A SCOTUS "best friends" with a billionaire court activist? It's obviously a transactional friendship. The judge contributes his staunch conservatism and the billionaire contributes the perks of being a billionaire's "best friend".
The lack of disclosure wasn't an oversight, it was an effort to conceal the indefensible. If Thomas knew the trips would be reported at the time his choice wouldn't be to make up some market value or even to go without paying. He likely would have not traveled at all because the optics were too bad.
“It’s obviously a transactional friendship.”
No, that isn’t obvious at all.
Do you like to cultivate friendships with like-minded people? That’s normal. What’s less normal is cultivating friendships with people who disagree with you. Similarly, seeking to cultivate friendships with people who are successful, powerful, smart, interesting, influential, or some combination is likewise normal, while the opposite is less so.
Or, maybe all or nearly all friendships are "transactional" in some sense?
Now enjoy these pics of Obama and Richard Branson chilling in the Caribbean: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/02/07/12/3CEC732000000578-0-image-a-22_1486471628442.jpg
You wouldn't be lying by omission, would you?
https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/barack-obama-kitesurfing-richard-branson/index.html
Take a note of the date - oh, you already did and left that part out intentionally.
David Welker : "If you don’t want the scrutiny, don’t be a justice..."
I've seen other people suggest Justice Thomas should look to be beyond reproach, like Caesar's Wife.
Of course, in this case Thomas' wife is just as much on Crow's dole as the Justice - with the billionaire paying her salary. And Thomas' mother as well. We've heard nothing so far about brothers or sisters, but who would be surprised? When a man is willing to sell-off his mother's house to his sugardaddy with the old lady still inside, I don't think there are many appreciable limits or restraints.
Fallacy of the excluded middle. There's another possibility, which is that the name had value to people doing business with him even if they didn't think he could influence his father.
"Harlan Crow is a respected business leader, a devoted patriot, and a generous philanthropist. He regularly opens his properties to civic organizations, scholars, and public officials. In fact, he opened his home to me and my family, so that Justice Thomas could swear me in on my first day on the bench. For that, I am eternally grateful. I'm deeply honored to know them both."
Yeah, right.
Harlan Crow cozies up to judges whose politics he likes so that he can schmooze with them and provide opportunities for his friends and associates to schmooze with them. Thomas has admitted that Crow and Thomas were not "good friends" before Thomas became a Justice. In fact, from aught that appears. they did not know each at all. Being a Justice made Thomas a target for beneficence.
This is even worse than funding the Supreme Court Historical Society in order to get chances to cozy up. At least that happens in public.
Even worse!
I mean, no Democrat would be caught dead with a Supreme Court Justice.
This Republican donor was caught alive.
Jeez Blackman, if you're going to publish this sort of thing put a trigger warning on it so we can get our hip waders on before wading into it.
What Wilhoit said, "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." Thomas, Crow, and Ho, and Blackman, believe themselves to be in the protected class and don't see why they should have to put up with any criticism from the little people.
Exactly no one is trying to prevent you from criticizing anyone, Little Person.
But no one is required to imagine that you have anything worthwhile to say when your every post is as empty of content as this one.
As if MAGAt scum like you and Blackman have anything worthwhile to say.
It doesn't matter what Thomas does. He's a black man whose off the Democrat Plantation.
There's nothing viler or more racist than a Democrat whose pissed off at a free-thinking black.
“Free-thinking”? It costs millions to buy Thomas’ thinking.
He thinks pretty much like I do, haven't paid him a cent.
Wrong.
I know someone familiar with one of Ginni Thomas' financial arrangements. A few hundred thousand can suffice.
More accurate: Millions is an aggregate assessment.
Could you be any more racist trash?
Racist is mad black people are on the wrong ‘Plantation.’
Yes, sitting judges and elected representatives accept gifts, favors, and junkets all the time. Yes, academics, journalists, and lawyers (not in government jobs) do the same. There's a big difference, however. Judges and elected representatives do their work with the force of law they can require some or all of us to obey. Academics, journalists, and lawyers do their work only with their opinions and their ability to persuade us. We are free to disagree with and dismiss the opinions of others. We are free to disagree with the work products of judges and elected representatives, but we are not free to dismiss and ignore them.
I can't ignore your lousy Justices any more, or less, than you can ignore Thomas. So what?
This is called "circling the wagons".
Being completely invulnerable already, Thomas needs no circle of wagons.
Rallying the troops maybe? Or just telling everyone that this noise is just noise.
Completely invulnerable?
As more revelations emerge concerning the Thomas family's consumption and transactions habits, Chief Justice Roberts and one or more of the other right-wingers on the Court might start to wonder whether Thomas is still worth it . . . and might act consequent to the perceived risk.
And I doubt it would cause him practical problems on the Court, but why wouldn't Justice Thomas be a strong candidate for disbarment or other disciplinary action imposed by a bar association or disciplinary board?
Disbarment or other disciplinary action would not disqualify Justice Thomas from further service on the Court.
I tend to agree ('no practical problems on the Court'), but it would be the most prominent thing he would be known and remembered for, it likely would occupy his time (maybe fewer chances to sail on superyachts, ogle Nazi artifacts, and smoke cigars with fellow asshole Leonard Leo), could precipitate some overdue and enforceable ethical rules for the justices, and might be another handy step toward enlargement of the Supreme Court by better Americans.
May the disbarment proceeding begin!
Speaking of damaged reputations -- how does losing three-quarters of a billion dollars (with Smartmatic next at bat, unless he gets fired first) influence Paul Clement's reputation?
And it won’t happen, no matter how much the haters dream their stupid, hateful dreams about it happening.
Thomas doesn't have to worry about haters. Thomas has to worry about history.
Mostly, figures who are disreputable-looking in their own time look worse and worse as time wears on. More bad stuff comes out, and what survives best from the older stuff is what seemed most prominent then.
Thomas is already positioned to be the most corrupt Supreme Court justice in history. It will probably only get worse. In retrospect, historians will be at a loss to account for Thomas having any defenders at all. If some means is not found to eject Thomas from the Court, the entire Court will stink up the history books.
No one has to worry about history. Anyone can simply decline to be an egoist.
Ho holds himself and other judges to lower standards than everyone else.
Wow, he was dodging the issues so hard I had trouble figuring out what he was talking about half the time.
For instance, he vaguely talks about financial interests and other judges talking trips but never even acknowledges the core issue of a Billionaire who campaigns to move the courts to the right "befriending" a supreme court judge and showering him with expensive gifts and luxurious vacations. It's a good thing that Judge Thomas is so Conservative otherwise the friendship may stop!
Then he jumps to a defense of Judge Kacsmaryk where he equates himself not talking to a reporter to shill himself for a reward to Kacsmaryk hiding his authorship of a politically explosive article. Of course I had to google because I hadn't see the story before and Judge Ho was so vague in his description.
Finally, Judge Ho takes some shots at RBG falsely implying that her ill-advised public comments were as bad (or worse) that Thomas and Kacsmaryk intentionally hiding things from the public.
It's not 1776 anymore.
It doesn't take a month to get a letter or person halfway across the country.
2 million people can vote for their favorite "got talent" singer in 30 seconds using their cell phones.
Why can we not have a true representative democracy where reps vote on issues according to the actual will of voters in their district in real time using a text based voting system where voters receive a text on an issue, vote using a registered cell # and email, using the email to confirm the text vote and the rep votes according to the results of said vote.
Get rid of this dumbass 2 party system as well. it's not working... obviously.
As far as the ethics thing goes, get all money out of politics.
You want to hold a public office it has to be for the sake of the office, not someone's pocket book.
Give all offices across the board a salary of $150,000 a year and they are not allowed to enrich themselves at all during their service.
Allow donations during the campaign phase but keep them anonymous so the office holder isn't beholden to one specific entity and the office holder keeps the remainder after the campaign.
No gifts, trips, $ or any other possibly compromising issues.
Harlon Crow wouldn't have thrown a dime Thomas's way had he had to wait until he didn't hold that office anymore to do so.
Make it about the country mot the office holder.
This is ridiculous the way it "works" now.
Why can we not have a true representative democracy where reps vote on issues according to the actual will of voters in their district in real time using a text based voting system where voters receive a text on an issue, vote using a registered cell # and email, using the email to confirm the text vote and the rep votes according to the results of said vote.
Unfortunately there's a few issues with this proposal.
1) Voter apathy is already a serious issue. People aren't going to vote multiple times a day, or even a month. You'd get about 1% of the voters in the district responding and the result would have very little relationship to the desires of the district as a whole.
2) Voter education is another big issue. Many voters have only the vaguest ideas of candidate platforms. The vast majority of issues will have no idea how the bills they voted for actually work. I know I certainly have better things to do with my time. How many EULAs or car rental contracts have you actually read in detail?
No gifts, trips, $ or any other possibly compromising issues.
Harlon Crow wouldn’t have thrown a dime Thomas’s way had he had to wait until he didn’t hold that office anymore to do so.
Doesn't really fix things. There's already a pile of rules in place to avoid what Thomas did. The problem isn't that Thomas's conduct was allowed. The problem is that there's no mechanism to hold Thomas to account for breaking the rules.
Well, because that would literally be the opposite of a "true representative democracy." It would be government by plebiscite. In a representative democracy, the representatives, not the public, decide how to vote.
Also, representatives don't vote on "issues." They vote on bills.