The Volokh Conspiracy
Mostly law professors | Sometimes contrarian | Often libertarian | Always independent
Florida Legislature May Impose Penalties on Local Legislators Who Illegally Impose Gun Control Laws
So the Florida Supreme Court held today.
From Fried v. State, decided today by the Florida Supreme Court, in an opinion by Justice Ricky Polston (joined by Chief Justice Carlos Muniz and Justices Charles Canady, John Couriel, and Jamie Grosshans):
[T]he common law doctrines of legislative immunity and governmental function immunity [do not] prohibit the statutory civil actions and penalties imposed against local governments and officials for certain violations of … the firearms preemption statute…
In 2011, the Legislature amended the Preemption Statute [that preempts most local regulations of firearms], to include a series of civil penalties and actions, which apply to:
Any person, county, agency, municipality, district, or other entity that violates the Legislature's occupation of the whole field of regulation of firearms and ammunition, as declared in subsection (1), by enacting or causing to be enforced any local ordinance or administrative rule or regulation impinging upon such exclusive occupation of the field shall be liable as set forth herein….
[The sections] applicable to local officials … provide as follows:
(c) If the court determines that a violation was knowing and willful, the court shall assess a civil fine of up to $5,000 against the elected or appointed local government official or officials or administrative agency head under whose jurisdiction the violation occurred.
(d) Except as required by applicable law, public funds may not be used to defend or reimburse the unlawful conduct of any person found to have knowingly and willfully violated this section….
[B]ecause legislative immunity as applied to local officials is a common law doctrine that the Legislature abrogated in the context covered by the Preemption Statute, we conclude that legislative immunity does not prohibit the statutory penalties ….
[W]e find no merit in Petitioners' argument that [the penalty provision] violates separation of powers principles because it authorizes the judiciary's interference with legislative acts of local officials. Petitioners have provided no basis in the Florida Constitution or precedent indicating that it would exceed the scope of judicial power for courts to interpret statutes and hear cases where parties seek to enforce statutory violations and penalties duly enacted by the Legislature. To the contrary, it is within the judiciary's constitutional authority and responsibility to do so.
We likewise reject Petitioners' argument that legislative immunity flows from article VIII of the Florida Constitution. To the contrary, article VIII expressly grants the Legislature plenary authority over the state's local governments, which have only those "powers of local self-government not inconsistent with general law." Local governments, including counties and municipalities, are creatures of the State without any independent sovereignty….
Petitioners also rely heavily on federal law recognizing legislative immunity for state, regional, and local legislators. For members of Congress, legislative immunity was established in the Speech or Debate Clause of the United States Constitution, which protects not only the speech and debate of legislators but also voting on legislative acts. To the extent Petitioners rely on federal case law that has stated that article I, section 6 of the United States Constitution (the Speech or Debate Clause) creates a form of legislative immunity, Florida's Constitution does not contain a Speech or Debate Clause providing legislative immunity to members of the Legislature….
[G]overnmental function immunity [also] does not prohibit the [penalty provisions] ….
Florida has a broad statutory waiver of sovereign immunity in tort suits for the State. However, governmental function immunity, also called discretionary function immunity, is a doctrine under which "certain 'discretionary' governmental functions remain immune from tort liability … because certain functions of coordinate branches of government may not be subjected to scrutiny by judge or jury as to the wisdom of their performance." We have explained that "[i]t is 'the nature of the conduct, rather than the status of the actor,' that determines whether the function is the type of discretionary function which is, by its nature, immune from tort liability."
Petitioners argue that the enforcement of penalties against local governments would violate governmental function immunity because the process of determining what is preempted under the Preemption Statute remains inherently discretionary. However, to engage in conduct that is prohibited by statute is not a discretionary function. As the First District concluded below, "[g]overnment function immunity does not shield entities that act contrary to or more restrictively than state law in the completely preempted field of firearm and ammunition regulation." …
The constitution … confers exclusively upon the Legislature the power to abrogate common law and restrict local government power. For example, the Legislature can abolish counties by general law, see art. VIII, § 1, Fla. Const. ("The state shall be divided by law into political subdivisions called counties. Counties may be created, abolished or changed by law …."), and municipalities exist only by virtue of general law. The Legislature is likewise authorized to enact general laws preempting all regulation in an area of the law.
By enacting the Preemption Statute, the Legislature exercised its power to preempt the field of firearms and ammunition (subject to limited exceptions)…. The imposition of these civil statutory [penalty] actions for violations of the Preemption Statute does not violate governmental function immunity….
Justice Jorge Labarga dissented:
As noted by the trial court, "[j]udicial power is vested in courts alone and judges cannot wield executive or legislative power. As a part of this separation, Florida courts cannot question any legislator about her or his legislative process because it would be impermissible judicial meddling in a purely political matter." Consequently, the requirement of judicial involvement in determining whether the action of the public official was "knowing and willful" amounts to nothing less than an impermissible judicial intrusion into the official's legislative thought process, and it undermines the official's ability to effectuate the constituents' will.
As aptly observed by the trial court, "[b]ecause local governments must have what amounts to small legislatures, and because courts cannot interfere in legislative processes, neither this court, nor any other court in Florida, can enforce the civil penalty provisions … against local legislators."
Congratulations to Daniel William Bell, who represented the state.
Editor's Note: We invite comments and request that they be civil and on-topic. We do not moderate or assume any responsibility for comments, which are owned by the readers who post them. Comments do not represent the views of Reason.com or Reason Foundation. We reserve the right to delete any comment for any reason at any time. Comments may only be edited within 5 minutes of posting. Report abuses.
Please
to post comments
Whether or not you agree with the substance of the State law, I find it hard to figure out how it's invalid. Maybe some Florida lawyer can explain.
How about cops who illegally beat people or steal people’s money?
If we’re wiping out immunity why not wipe out sovereign immunity so the state has to reimburse people harmed by their agents?
This is political stupidity.
Political stupidity because it doesn't allow leftist Democrats in Broward and Palm Beach Counties to pass symbolic laws, wasting taxpayer money, that infringe upon Constitutional rights?
“…the requirement of judicial involvement in determining whether the action of the public official was "knowing and willful" amounts to nothing less than an impermissible judicial intrusion into the official's legislative thought process, and it undermines the official's ability to effectuate the constituents' will.”
If such public officials didn’t wear like a badge of honor their intention to flout state firearms preemption laws, it might be harder to address the knowing and willful aspects of their actions. But nobody quietly and discreetly undermines the 2ndA - they plan front page headlines and news coverage of their work.
The field is totally preempted by state law. It's not like local governments trip and fall into enacting local gun laws. They absolutely know when they're doing it, and that they're not supposed to.
I've made 64,000 Dollars so far this year working online and I'm a full time student. Im using an online business opportunity I heard about and I've made such great money. It's really user friendly and I'm just so happy that I found out about it. Heres what I do. 🙂 AND GOOD LUCK.:)
More information→→→→→ https://WWW.DAILYPRO7.COM
This should be done and about damn time. These dictators pretending to be governing cities and town decide they can take away your Constitutional rights and try to do so repeatedly. They know the worse that can happen will be the law will be reversed. They should suffer personal costs for their repeated attempts to violate civil rights. The taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay.
So how much should Santos and the State Legislators have to pay when courts start tossing their bills for violating the First Amendment?
Doesn't this apply to every kind of regulation? I could imagine local governments motivated to pass their own version of every regulation in every area.
Suppose a village said, "No vaccines may be given here?" Suppose they had their own ATC for use of their airports? Suppose they said, as in Illinois, that gun laws do not apply here? Suppose they said, as in California that immigration laws do not apply here?
There must be a general rule to handle the general case, so why is a special law needed in Florida?
"There must be a general rule to handle the general case, so why is a special law needed in Florida?"
I guess the first thing that comes to mind is this is a Florida Supreme Court ruling regarding a Florida law, so there doesn't seem to be a need for the Court to craft the sort of "general rule" you're asking about.
There is a general rule. Legislative immunity is a common law doctrine in Florida and applies unless abrogated by the state. That is what the state did. No different than sovereign immunity. The state can wave it if it wishes but if it hasn’t then it applies.
Not quite the same, in that in the case of sovereign immunity of states, the state itself has to waive it, because the state itself IS the sovereign, whose sovereign powers can't be over-ridden by a higher level of government.
In this case, the state itself is still the sovereign, and we're dealing with the rights of lower levels of government, which are NOT sovereign, just convenient administrative districts for the sovereign.
As such, they have no rights that the actual sovereign can't over-ride if it chooses. The right here is a common law right, and falls before state statutes.
Usually the larger cities precede the states in existence.
We're discussing law, not reality.
City governments derive their legal authority from state governments and are subordinate to state governments, whether or not the city existed before the state was a state.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.33.html
"(1) PREEMPTION.—Except as expressly provided by the State Constitution or general law, the Legislature hereby declares that it is occupying the whole field of regulation of firearms and ammunition, including the purchase, sale, transfer, taxation, manufacture, ownership, possession, storage, and transportation thereof, to the exclusion of all existing and future county, city, town, or municipal ordinances or any administrative regulations or rules adopted by local or state government relating thereto. Any such existing ordinances, rules, or regulations are hereby declared null and void."
The statute is very clear, and there is no gray area. Legislators on the local level who have passed laws regulating guns have done so KNOWING they're illegal. There's no reason that should be tolerated, not in Florida, not in New York (with CCIA) or anywhere else.
Well, I think some states have "home rule" constitutional amendments that give some local governments a bit of sovereignty as a state constitutional matter. Other states haven't officially preempted the field.
But yeah, they do all at least know that they're violating a constitutional right at this point.
Correct, but Florida doesn't. There wasn't any gray area there.
And in New York, New Jersey, California, they basically know they're violating Bruen, but they figure delaying for a few years is a worthy goal in and of itself.
Which is why, as I've said elsewhere, the Supreme court has to start accepting cert and issuing summary reversals on any cases that uphold these laws. Screw remanding for action not inconsistent, screw waffling around. Curb stomps are in order, it's time to stop being gentle with any court that doesn't rule consistent with Bruen.
And if NY or CA appeal a decision against them to the Supreme court, they might consider treating the appeal as frivolous.
From the dissent - " "[j]udicial power is vested in courts alone and judges cannot wield executive or legislative power."
Um, imposing civil penalties in court... is a judicial power. Not an executive or legislative power.
This is an easy case and it's about time some of these governmental immunities disappear. A state does not have to grant immunity to government officials, and a state can choose to remove immunity from government officials.
Interesting. Now Virtue Signalling has a price tag on it.
Oh fuck off with that.
This may be about laws that are bad policy, or against state policy.
But don't assume the other side doesn't really care about a thing you yourself care about.
How has he assumed the other side doesn't really care? Of course they do, that's why he called it virtue signalling.
The thing about virtue signalling is the knowledge of the signaller that what he is doing has no actual effect, but he's going to do it for show. Perhaps another name to call it is bad faith. As in passing ordinances you know are illegal under state law.
So spare us your swear word tantrum because you don't like what Florida has done here. We get it, your feathers are ruffled.
Sorry about that nerve damage. Take 2 aspirin, go on a soft foods diet and call your Proctologist in the morning.
They might care, but knowingly passing a law that cannot be enforced is all about making sure your constituency knows you care.
It's about sending a message,not doing something about the issue at hand.
So yes, it is signaling virtue to their constituency that they're a true blue Democrat who salutes the platform.
Does the federal guarantee of a republican form of government permit judicial legislative supremacy, and judicial executive supremacy?