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The Political Strategy of "Making the Other Side Better"
Economist Tyler Cowen argues this approach is too often neglected. But is more common than he suggests.
In an interesting recent Marginal Revolution post, my George Mason University colleague, economist Tyler Cowen, argues that we overemphasize beating the other side in political conflicts, while simultaneously neglecting the alternative strategy of "making the other side better":
So many political strategies are centered around "beating" the other side(s), and claiming victory over their defeat. For evolutionary reasons, it is easy to see why these attitudes might have won out. Yet in general those approaches are a sign of a narrow vision. Beating the other side is a possible strategy, but it should hardly be the only strategy you attempt, even if we forget about the "you might be the one who is wrong!" worry.
Quite simply, a lot of the time you never beat the other side, though over time the terms of the debate do shift ground.
An alternative strategy is to try to make the other side better, even if you do not agree with the other side. You might try to make the other side saner and more open, and I do not mean by telling them how wrong they are. You do this, believe it or not, by supporting them in some ways, or at least supporting the best parts of the other side.
It is remarkable how few people pursue this strategy….
[T]he unpopularity of this strategy once again suggests that politics isn't about policy, in this matter it is more often about internal norms of group solidarity and intra-group status.
Many of Cowen's points here are well-taken. It is indeed true that total victory is rarely possible in politics. And it is also hard to deny that much political discourse is really about signaling "group solidarity," indulging various cognitive biases, and other things that have little connection to improving policy. He's also right that "improving the other side" should be an important objective.
At the same time, I think he overstates the extent to which that strategy is neglected. If "improving the other side" means getting them to move closer to your own (correct!) positions, there are many examples of people and movements that have sought to do exactly that.
It's important to recognize that beating the other side and improving it aren't always mutually exclusive. The former can often facilitate the latter. If your side's policies turn out to be political winners, that may well incentivize the other side to adopt them, or at least stop opposing them. A famous example is the political success of many of FDR's New Deal policies, such as Social Security. After they helped the Democrats win numerous elections, most Republicans came to accept them. When the GOP finally recaptured the White House in 1952, after five straight defeats, it was with a president (Eisenhower) who accepted most of the New Deal, even if sometimes grudgingly.
Later, one of the great triumphs of Ronald Reagan in the US and Margaret Thatcher in the UK was that opposing parties ultimately acceded to many of their policies. Bill Clinton's New Democrats and Tony Blair's New Labor were politically successful in the 1990s; but they had to accommodate many of Reagan's and Thatcher's innovations in order to win. Much of what was "new" in their platforms was actually implicit acceptance of aspects of Reaganism and Thatcherism.
Most recently, Barack Obama's greatest success may be the way in which the Affordable Care Act has gradually been accepted by Republicans. After years of seeking to "repeal and replace" Obamacare, such calls for repeal were noticeable by their near-absence in the 2020 election cycle, and this year, as well. Few Republicans even call it "Obamacare" anymore! Why did that happen? It's pretty obviously because the issue eventually turned out to be a political loser for the GOP.
"Making the other side better by beating them" won't always work. Some policies have greater potential for widespread popularity than others. And it's worth emphasizing that the policies that do prevail in this way aren't necessarily good. Thanks in part to widespread political ignorance, the correlation between popularity and quality is often tenuous, at best. I myself am no fan of either the New Deal or the ACA, despite recognizing their political success. Still, this is a strategy that pays huge dividends when it does work.
Another common strategy for "making the other side better" is to appeal to them in terms of their own values. A policy associated with the left might be defended on the basis of right-wing values - or vice versa. And either can sometimes be justified in terms of widely shared commitments that cut across political lines.
I have previously written how such appeals were crucial to the remarkable recent success of the same-sex marriage movement, and before it the abolitionist, civil rights, and women's rights movements. As far back as the time of the Revolutionary War, opponents of slavery argued that abolition was a necessary implication of America's founding commitments to liberty and equality. Frederick Douglass later made similar arguments, as did Martin Luther King in his calls for ending segregation.
I am no Douglass or King. But, in my own writings, I too often try to make use of arguments rooted in broadly shared values or those associated with the other side. In my book Free to Move, I defend expanding migration rights and other "foot voting" opportunities in part on the basis of conceptions of political freedom associated with the political left, such as "non-domination" and John Rawls' theories. I deliberately avoided relying primarily on distinctively libertarian ideas. I have also argued that dropping migration restrictions advances conservative values of meritocracy and color-blind government free of ethnic or racial favoritism.
Similarly, in my work on property rights issues, I have emphasized how tight restrictions on the use of eminent domain and exclusionary zoning can be justified from the standpoint of a wide range of both left and right-wing values and constitutional theories. Racial justice as well as property rights; living constitutionalism as well as originalism. And I am far from the only one who makes efforts of this kind.
The strategy of appealing to the other side's values has its limitations. Doing so effectively requires some depth of understanding of what those values really are. Many participants in political debate often fall short of that, myself included.
In some cases, such appeals are simply impossible because the gap between the two sides is too great. For example, I cannot plausibly defend broad migration rights from the standpoint of ethnonationalist theories holding that a particular racial or ethnic group are the true owners of a particular nation, and thereby have a right to exclude others. My only realistic option is to just argue that ethnonationalism is wrong (which is what I do in Chapter 5 of Free to Move). Similarly, I probably cannot hope to defend strong private property rights from a socialist standpoint. I have little choice but to urge people to reject socialism entirely.
But appeals to shared values - or even values unique to the other side - are often a promising strategy. They have been very successful in combating slavery, racism, and homophobia, and could be so in other situations, including migration rights. And, despite Cowen's fears, such appeals are far from absent today. I see them regularly in debates over a wide range of issues, including criminal justice reform, gun rights (both sides emphasize the protection of innocent life), abortion (both sides appeal to widely shared values of life and liberty), and much else.
In sum, Cowen is right to suggest that "making the other side better" is often a valuable strategy. He's also right that there is plenty of dysfunctional political discourse, that isn't really about improving policy. But efforts to "make the other side better" are a lot more common than he thinks.
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This approach was in fact tried by Clinton and Obama, who embraced Republican positions on some important issues, and it succeeded only in flipping Congress to the Republicans.
When there is no agreement on what "better" means, "making the other side better" is indistinguishable from beating the other side.
"I see them regularly in debates over a wide range of issues, including criminal justice reform, gun rights (both sides emphasize the protection of innocent life),…"
Gun controllers are happy to send the police out after innocent gun owners, knowing that some innocent people will be killed in the course of enforcing gun laws. Those people are not like us, gun controllers say to themselves. So it’s ok if the police kill some of them and imprison some others.
"Most recently, Barack Obama's greatest success may be the way in which the Affordable Care Act has gradually been accepted by Republicans. "
Because it’s been a long time and any drastic change now would be exactly the same wrong committed by Democrats: meddling with peoples' health care. Casually meddling in innocent peoples' lives is mostly a Democrat behavior.
I'm sure everyone loves being forced to buy insurance that some unaccountable Federal dictated they need and not what they decided they need.
Some modest reforms that help people by repealing requirements would neither be "drastic change" nor meddling. We will probably see those after the election in November.
There may well be some sensible improvements.
Too bad the GOP spent all that time yelling "Repeal and replace," even though they had no replacement, rather than working on incremental improvement.
Almost as if they were more concerned with noise-making than with legislating.
Only Dems get to engage in rhetoric and political maneuvering. It’s teh evil when GOP does it
You see right there, how you justified your own bad behavior by pointing left and just kinda waiving your hands?
This is a fundamental problem with your side. Everyone does this, but your side *only* does this. Like a reflex.
I didn’t say it was bad behavior. It’s normal bland politics.
You absolutely agreed with everything I said though. You think it’s teh evil when the GOP does it and that’s different when Dems do the same stuff.
You’re not even a little bit convincing.
It's not normal politics, it is bad and a failure of statesmanship.
That you set the law so low that you call disfunction bland is just another way to rationalize bad behavior.
I'm old enough to remember when Congress worked a lot better than this; don't pretend this is just how it's gotta be.
Congress worked fine in 2017 and 2018. We got long overdue tax reform and we no longer have the highest business tax rate in the world.
Yes, that's because you don't care if the government runs by brinksmanship, because you're either dumb as hell about risk analysis or don't much care about America so long as your side gets the blue ribbon.
we no longer have the highest business tax rate in the world.
We never did, if you judge by effective tax rate, which is the only reasonable way to judge it.
"We never did, if you judge by effective tax rate"
So no argument that it was the highest rate.
(It might have only been second highest after Qatar or whatever. So what? Bad policy is bad policy, even when it’s not the absolute worst policy in the world.
Why even try to argue this? Do you think defending almost the world's worst policy is good in any way? It isn’t.
"risk analysis"
Show us your study of the risks along with the historical analogues. We'll wait.
You’re pretty good at pretending to have information when you’re actually just making shit up. Some people are probably fooled sometimes.
Neither side wants to make better fascists.
Who prioritizes political cooperation to solve problems? Everyone except white evangelicals. We asked adults whether it was more important to overcome differences to solve problems or overcome opponents. WEs are the ONLY group w/majority saying they'd rather overcome opponents.
This largely reflects the fact that white evangelicals are VERY Republican & VERY conservative. When we look at answers to these questions across partisanship & ideology, clearly the more Republican & the more conservative, the more you prioritize conquering over cooperating.
https://twitter.com/profsamperry/status/1548794843652128774
Sorry, all the conservatives saying compromise is bad but that's not crazy because the other side thinks the same thing -
Nope.
You are the baddies.
Compromise, giving a little to get a little, is fundamental to human social interaction. I don't know when you folks jettisoned functioning in a society, but please stop it.
They learned it from you. Unfortunately, leftist extremists have captured the Democrat party and broke Congress by doing things like refusing every amendment proposed by Republicans for lots of bills.
But that’s different…
Not according to this study.
But keep pointing left to rationalize your own bad behavior.
There is no study. Maybe there will be one in the future. But there is no such study now. Please stop claiming there is.
Lying is certainly bad behavior.
It's prepublication data in service of 2022 national addiction and social attitude survey.
Is your point that it's bunk?
My point is there is no study, despite your claims otherwise.
We don't know what the methodology was, who was sampled, what was asked, or anything other than the chart this tweet reveals.
You cannot draw any conclusions from an chart unsubstantiated like this, and telling people to trust it because you claim it's a "study" (when it isn't) is baseless. Further demanding they properly "dispute" a "study" that does not exist is downright disingenuous and dishonest.
"Compromise, giving a little to get a little, is fundamental to human social interaction. I don't know when you folks jettisoned functioning in a society, but please stop it."
Pro--lifers did so for decades. Pro-abortion side did not.
Gun rights advocates compromise incessantly. Gun control nuts do not.
Fuck off with your hacking nonsense.
I am a gun rights advocate who is also a gun control nut. Naturally, I seek compromise.
Pro-lifers were big on compromising? For decades??
LOL, you actually typed that.
damikesc thinks that compromise is when you lose at the Supreme Court or don't get your way, despite trying everything to get your way.
That's not compromise. Gun rights advocates (if we mean organizations like the NRA and people who think like them) famously don't compromise even on things 80% of the public supports. Given an example where gun rights advocates compromised (much less incessantly).
Ditto for pro-lifers. They constantly introduced uncompromising legislation (see Texas, the many trigger laws in effect, etc.) that take very nearly the most extreme position possible (some rape and incest exceptions, vague "health of the mother" exceptions that discourage doctors making decisions women want based on their health because they can't be sure a prosecutor won't disagree that the threat was sufficiently serious.
If you want to demonstrate compromise from the right, the two issues you shouldn't bring up are guns and abortion.
You’re saying it’s all the fault of a religious minority.
Read the later paragraph, and also it's a study.
"A study". Well, lord knows no chance that is a sketchy load of shit. Social science studies are always known for their diligence and repeatable results.
If you want to dispute a study, there are plenty of ways to do so. Just saying 'naaaaaah' is not one of them.
It says quite a bit about how brittle your worldview is that you can't address a bit of correlation.
One way is to point out that "willingness to compromise" isn't something you can quantify.
Even for the one chart that this guy was willing to show his followers, take a look at the actual question and answer:
"More important that we overcome our differences to address our common problems"
or
"More important that we overcome opponents who are leading in the wrong direction"
Notice how the bolded part was not included in the title? Doesn't it seem relevant in how people answered?
Isn't that assumed in 'opponent?'
What do you mean? You ask people to rate it on a scale.
"and also it's a study."
So it's not bigotry, it's scientific bigotry?
Coming out against knowledge? Oh, that is some bullshit.
Good science is *never* bigotry, don't go down that censorious path.
If I applied it to every individual of the group, or if I refused to stop saying it was true after it was debunked, then we could talk.
Also unethical? Hiding the info.
There is no study, so it can hardly be good science.
You know what is also unethical? Trying to deceive people by claiming that something is a study, when there is no such study.
It isn't a study:
"Haven't pub'd this yet. Just raw data" (July 17, 2022)
Unless you think he wrote a paper and got it peer reviewed and published in the past 6 days?
The source is given as the "2022 National Addiction and Social Attitude Survey", which doesn't seem to be a thing. It's not published anywhere I can find, and his own websites (personal or professional) does not list any such thing.
I'm not sure that quoting an tweet of a chart of unpublished data by a radical social justice proponent and critic of "Christian Nationalism" based on a survey with no provenance, unknown methodology, and hidden data actually shows anything.
But to you, I guess, "it's a study".
Um, OK. That's still a refutation of Ben's ridiculous post. Study, prepub, raw data - it's not blaming anything on a religious minority.
I'm not saying anything about Ben's post.
I'm pointing out to everyone that YOU are lying about this supposed data.
There is no study. Not published, not prepub, not even blog notes.
We know nothing - zero - about the supposed data. No survey methodology, no data analysis techniques, nothing - certainly not the raw data.
All we have is a Tweet, and you attempting to claim that Tweet is a full study.
Your falsehood is my target, and that is what I am showing - not addressing anything said by anyone else, so stop trying to distract.
The problem in USA right now seems to be that both parties are continuing to purge members who might allow themselves to be changed by the other party's ideas. The Republican Party more than the Democratic Party, but the Democrats too. My only hope for the "make the other side better" strategy is: the Republican Party has already made its big generational shift, to Trumpie purge-the-heretics monochromery. The Democrats haven't made their big generational shift quite yet - most of the top leadership posts still seem to be occupied by Tithonus-types. We can only hope that when the younger Dems get the Ring of Power, they won't be afraid to crib good ideas from the other side - at least, from the guys who used to be the other side but are now homeless wanderers in the political/ideological spectrum. The Trumpies' loopiness ought to make it easier for new Dems (really new) to say: maybe the privatizers and the warmongers weren't such bad fellows after all.
Agreed that it'll be interesting when the 70-year-old Dem leadership gives way to like 40-year-olds (the Gen Xers are all up and out by now having gotten sick of waiting for their bosses to retire).
If the new leadership can get their heads out of their own navels and attacking one another, we may have something new and good. I give it 50-50.
How many pro life Democrats are there?
Zero. And it has cost them state races and governorships in the interior of the country.
Sidebar
The most effective outside litigation counsel I worked with (and learned from) approached opposing counsel in every case to hear them out, understand their client's position, listen to their arguments while not asserting our case. In more than a few cases, opposing counsel responded to sympathetic listening by volunteering information about the case or clients which was invaluable in resolving the case.
Not much downside to listening unless you assume it is a sign of weakness however some clients cannot tolerate their counsel appearing friendly to the opposition.
Nice.
I have spent endless hours, and worked my fingers to the bone, to help the vile, toxic lawyer profession advance to the modern era and to improve. It has not worked yet. I am not sure this tactic can overcome the $trillion they take in rent seeking, and returning nothing of value to us. That rent is too big for this tactic.
You will be hard-pressed to find any evidence that Obama was or is a "radical," outside the RW bubble.
Your claim is just silly.
If Obama is the new center, God help us...
Why should anyone care what bernard11 wants to call "radical"?
It was 8 years of governing exclusively for about 30-35% of Americans and name-calling everyone who didn’t cheer for it.
Every accusation an admission.
Obama talked a lot about governing as he thought best for America.
Trump could not stop talking about helping those who voted for him, and screw those losers who did not.
Everybody to the Right of Marx is far right to you.
Works both ways.
Projection, kids. This is called projection.
"worked my fingers to the bone"
What did you get?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MBaGjVdaIk