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Some Good News for Alec Baldwin, Here in a Libel Case
From today's opinion by Judge Nancy Freudenthal (D. Wyo.) in McCollum v. Baldwin:
This case arises from opinions expressed by Defendant [Alec] Baldwin through social media posts and private messages concerning Plaintiff Roice McCollum's attendance at the Washington, D.C. events on January 6, 2021. Plaintiffs ("the McCollums") allege Mr. Baldwin's opinions resulted in hateful messages and threats by third parties toward them, and they bring this action alleging various causes of action…. The Court finds and concludes that the McCollums have failed to meet their burden of proof in showing that this Court may properly exercise personal jurisdiction over Mr. Baldwin….
Focusing just on the allegations from the complaint which go toward the personal jurisdiction analysis, on January 3, 2022, Roice McCollum (who resides in Wyoming) posted on her Instagram feed a photograph of people surrounding the Washington Monument at the "Make America Great Again" protest in Washington. Roice McCollum had attended the Washington D.C. protest. Mr. Baldwin (from New York) commented on Roice's post by saying, "Are you the same woman that I sent the $ to for your sister's husband who was killed during the Afghanistan exit." {Jiennah McCollum's husband Rylee died in Afghanistan while on active duty as a marine. A GoFundMe account was started on behalf of Jiennah and her soon-to-be-born daughter.} The private Instagram messages between Mr. Baldwin and Roice McCollum on January 3, 2022 are as follows:
Baldwin: When I sent you the $ for your late brother, out of real respect for his service to our country, I didn't know you were a January 6th rioter
Roice: Protesting is perfectly legal in the country and I've already had my sit down with the fbi. Thanks, have a nice day!
Baldwin: I don't think so.
Your brother fought for this country bravely and honestly
Your activities resulted in the unlawful destruction of government property, the death of a law enforcement officer, an assault on the certification of the presidential election.
I reposted your photo
Good luck
Mr. Baldwin posted on his own Instagram feed his views on "the attack on the Capitol" and talked about the money he sent to Roice McCollum as "a tribute to her late brother, his widow and their child." His post continued with, "Then I find this. Truth is stranger than fiction." Following this comment, Mr. Baldwin apparently re-posted the photograph originally posted by Roice McCollum on her Instagram feed.
When Roice McCollum asked Mr. Baldwin about his public post, he responded saying, "There are hateful things posted toward you that are wrong. Irony was my point. The irony of sincerely wanting to honor your brother and the fact that you are an insurrectionist. Irony: 'the use of words that mean the opposite of what you really think especially in order to be funny' (Merriam Webster)." Roice McCollum then apparently copied some very hateful posts she received, and said to Mr. Baldwin, "Thanks for the follow Alec." Again, Mr. Baldwin responded by saying, "I find that abhorrent. My feelings were expressed by my gesture on behalf of your brother." …
"Specific [personal] jurisdiction exists where a defendant does not have continuous contacts with the forum state, but the plaintiff shows that 1) the defendant has purposefully directed its activities at residents of the forum state and 2) the plaintiff's alleged injuries 'arise out of or relate to' those activities." The Tenth Circuit has distilled these principles into a three- part test: whether the defendant took "(1) an intentional action; (2) expressly aimed at the forum state; and (3) with knowledge that the brunt of the injury would be felt in the forum state."
The only factual allegations relating to Mr. Baldwin's intentional actions are the few private Instagram messages he sent to Roice McCollum, and the post on his own Instagram feed (which re-posted her public Instagram post/photo). Mr. Baldwin's public post on his own Instagram feed cannot reasonably be considered expressly aimed at Wyoming given Mr. Baldwin's "2.4 million Instagram followers." Further, the allegations that Mr. Baldwin was aware that his followers are sympathetic to his political affiliation, that they are more likely to be politically active and opinionated, that he fueled the firestorm of hatred from his followers, and did nothing to remedy what he had started, also are not intentional actions by Mr. Baldwin that were expressly aimed at Wyoming.
In short, the well-established principles of personal jurisdiction are determinative in this case. A few Internet communications from Mr. Baldwin in New York to Roice McCollum in Wyoming are insufficient to establish that he expressly aimed any allegedly tortious conduct at Wyoming. See, e.g., Rockwood Select Asset Fund XI (6)-1, LLC v. Devine Millimet & Branch (10th Cir. 2014). Or as the Supreme Court stated more succinctly, "it is the defendant, not the plaintiff or third parties, who must create contacts with the forum State." Walden v. Fiore (2014). The entirety of Mr. Baldwin's relevant conduct occurred in New York through the use of Instagram, an Internet-based social networking service ….
Further, the fact that Mr. Baldwin placed content on his own Instagram feed from New York – that his 2.4 million followers could access world-wide – also does not subject Mr. Baldwin to jurisdiction in Wyoming.
Following the instructions given by the Tenth Circuit, this Court must examine whether the defendant "deliberately directed [his] message at an audience in the forum state and intended harm to the plaintiff occurring primarily or particularly in the forum state.'" That did not occur here, and neither Mr. Baldwin's wealth, fame or number of followers changes the analysis.
Also, the McCollum's argument that "Baldwin cannot simply pick a fight in Wyoming and scurry back to his Manhattan penthouse claiming he is immune from the consequences of his action in Wyoming" is entirely unpersuasive. Mr. Baldwin was never in Wyoming to "pick a fight" and did not "scurry back" as he never left New York. Mr. Baldwin is not "immune" from the consequences of any tort simply because of this Court's determination that it lacks personal jurisdiction. However, the allegedly tortious conduct by Mr. Baldwin in New York, by way of posting a photo and content on his own Instagram feed, was not deliberately directed at an audience in Wyoming, thus any allegation that it was intended to harm plaintiffs primarily or particularly in Wyoming is insufficient for personal jurisdiction….
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Aside from Mr. Baldwin's fame; this seems like a routine case, and the court's opinion (and underlying analysis) seems straightforward and unobjectionable.
Again, lawyer dipshits. Baldwin has an opinion. Others harass the plaintiff. Why not sue the harassers or have them arrested? Did Baldwin harass the plaintiff? If not, all costs should come from the personal assets of the plaintiff lawyer. To deter frivolous lawsuits.
Maybe he should have used all the time he spent siccing his fans on ordinary people to read up on gun safety.
"siccing his fans" What direct control does Baldwin have over the harassers? By that token, the hate speech of the Democrat Party that resulted in the BLM riots should be a cause of action against them by store owner plaintiffs who lost everything to those diverse thugs. How about store owners suing the advocaes of prison reform for the diverse thugs they loosed on their stores?
Avocados of prison reform.
I STAND BEHIND ALEC BALDWIN
because I sure as sh*t ain't standing in front of him.
I took a safety course. Without much knowledge, I spotted several hard rules broken by Baldwin. He should take the course now.
"I took a safety course."
Good for you, but we're not talking about tricycles right now incel.
Uh...you know what incel means right? Its not some catchall insult for people you disagree with. Did David tell you about his sex life? Do you sneak around and watch him in his bedroom?
I did tell him about my sex life. I returned to the dating scene several years after my wife died. I have 3 lady friends who do not know about each other. I have been utterly stunned by the ladies I met. I met someone who won an Emmy, someone who brought in $billion in investment in low income housing, someone who runs video conferencing accounts. She is likely worth $100 million and gave me inside info about Zoom, a competitor. They flipped out after I told them whom I voted for, and unfortunately, there was no match. They started screaming at me.
I decided to go with just regular people after that. I was then stunned by the sexuality of old ladies. They do not need an 18 year old boy. They need two 18 year old boys to keep up with them.
My first date after 45 years was to take a gun safety course and to shoot a gun. I have a slight tremor so aiming is a challenge. The hot brass does not go out the side, but in all directions. It hit me in the face. Not sure if shooting is for me. It is an excellent family activity, however, like bowling.
I expressed some of the views from here, to a prominent Ivy law alumna. That got me permanently banned from Match.com. I got banned from a dating site for my view of the lawyer profession. I asked for a refund and got one. I am deeply grateful to Reason and to the Koch Brothers for their hospitality.
Thanks a lot, QA.
Baldwin will not take a course. He denies any responsibility at all. The more he talks, the more I think that he should be charged.
Of course you want him to be prosecuted.
He is not a poorly educated, roundly bigoted, disaffected right-wing societal reject.
I did not want him prosecuted until I heard him interviewed. He tells a story that does not make any sense. His story changes. He denies responsibility. He rants against gun owners.
I think this is the right outcome. I also think this logic and precedent should have resulted in dismissal of all the lawsuits against Trump, et al. with equal speed and dispatch. The apparent discrepancy in treatment before the law is deeply troubling.
I honestly don't understand your point?
This is only dismissal as to jurisdiction (from the excerpt- I don't feel like reading the whole opinion). The plaintiff is perfectly able to file the lawsuit in the correct forum with personal jurisdiction... you know, New York?
What does this have to with Trump, et al. in general?
Does the below answer your question Loki13?
Nope. Personal jurisdiction is a specific thing, and I don't see the connection.
Normally Rossami has a point, but I don't see the legal issue here.
In personam jurisdiction is a trifle when any and all is a nefarious conspiracy against MAGA
I do try to have a point. In this case, it was that similar cases against Trump, et al appear to suffer the equivalent deficiencies yet have not been dismissed as expeditiously.
…. Which case or cases?
Again, personal jurisdiction is specific, and I don’t know what case you think it would apply to (and reiterate that it would just cause the case to be re-filed in the appropriate forum).
Leftists riot and vandalize and the frame is:
Freedom of speech! Democracy! This is direct action! Yeah for Freedom! Sometimes unanticipated results like simple property damage happen when people protest! This is why businesses have insurance!
When some rightist do the same thing, it is:
Your activities resulted in the unlawful destruction of government property, the death of a law enforcement officer, an assault on the certification of the presidential election.
Leftists can show up for 100 nights in a row to burn down a federal courthouse and it barely makes the local news. Some tourists are invited into the Capitol building, take pictures, and leave and all the sudden it is "insurrection!!!!" complete with political prisoners, commissions, and other trapping of authoritarianism.
Two words sum this up - Clown World.
"Some tourists are invited into the Capitol building, take pictures, and leave "
Clown world indeed!
Says the clown that thinks taking away special tax status of a multi-trillion dollar corporation is "fascism"....
Jimmy! This guy pled guilty yesterday:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/press-release/file/1498536/download
Key excerpt:
“On the Capitol grounds, NEEFE and SMITH participated in hoisting and pushing a large metal sign frame holding a oversized “TRUMP” sign into a defensive line of Metropolitan Police Department (“MPD”) and USCP officers attempting to prevent rioters from further advancing on the West Front plaza of the Capitol. NEEFE understood and admits that at all times, these officers qualified as federal law enforcement officers and were engaged in performance of their official duties.“
Soooo uhhhh, maybe not everyone was “invited”?
You are familiar with how Biden's jack booted thugs are coercing pleas right? I don't think anyone who pleads guilty at this stage is doing so willingly. They are simply crying "uncle" and trying to get on with their life. Fighting against the sheer weight of the political machinery of the federal government is darn near impossible, definitely completely unfair, and even if you "win" do you really win when you then have hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal bills and a completely tarnished reputation.
I dunno, if he had truly been “invited in” you think he would have mentioned it.
Is it your assertion that Mr. Neefe didn’t actually engage in the conduct described? Because…….. there’s video
My assertion was not specific to his case and you know that. There is ample evidence, some presented in court, that the Capitol Police determined the best crowd control tactic was to let non-violent protesters into the building. And, you know what, it was the correct choice. What resulted was people roaming around, taking pictures, and then when asked to voluntarily leave did so even picking up trash on their way out.
A similar tactic was used during the Kavanaugh building takeover, but the result there was the building being trashed, official proceedings of a committee being impeded, and many threats issued against politicians in an attempt to sway their votes.
Oh ample evidence!!! There are also ample guilty pleas. I also love the idea that these brave patriots, very fine people btw, pleading guilty to crimes that, at a minimum involve tens of thousands of dollars of restitution and potentially 28(!) years in prison to “get on with their life”. I mean do you even hear yourself? How many j6 defendants have even credibly asserted they were invited in? One?
Very fine people! Just taking pictures!!
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/guy-reffitt-january-6-capitol-riot-guilty/#app
Jimmy, have you ever threatened your kids like this gentleman?
Interesting black box terrorists show up routinely to harass and assault peaceful protesters in places like Portland (just last week throwing smoke bombs and feces at them) but the left says absolutely nothing. But one guy on the right does one thing and that is supposed to be representative of tens of thousands of people who were simply speaking their mind.
Hey, you’re the one who said that everyone was invited in and just taking pictures!
Portland argle bargle!!
The evidence indicates most of the tourists were invited in. You committed the logical fallacy of faulting an entire group based upon the behavior of one individual. Go watch the video evidence. The cops clearly pick up the barricades and let them in.
Oh, I watched the video of Mr. Neefe. And others. I also asked if you could point me towards anyone credibly claiming they were “invited in” and “just taking pictures” in court. And, sacre bleu, all I got was handwaving and argle bargle about feces. Do you threaten your kids like Mr. Reffitt?
Jenny Cudd! A very fine tourist just taking pictures!
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.227066/gov.uscourts.dcd.227066.90.0.pdf
“ So we get to the Capitol and some of the patriots had already broken down all of the barricades, and they had literally ripped out the fence . . . Pushing and pushing and pushing. And we got the police to back off. So we get up there and the scaffolding that they had put up for the inauguration, there were people that were starting to climb it. We had to scale a wall to get there. There were people that were starting to climb the scaffolding. And we just pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed and yelled ‘go’ and yelled ‘charge’ and on and on and on. We just pushed and pushed and pushed, okay? And we got in.”
Yep, definitely just patriots invited in to take pictures.
Or this guy! Pled guilty to SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY yesterday! Made no mention of being “invited in”. I suppose he just wants to “get on with his life” right? I’m sure that charge doesn’t carry much jail time!
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/press-release/file/1499056/download
Interestingly, if it was Ms. McCollum who lived in New York, and Baldwin who lived in Wyoming, and Baldwin actually flew in from Wyoming, and defamed her to her face, she would have to go to Wyoming to sue him. New York’s long arm statute doesn’t apply to defamation.
Fucking fascist.