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Audio of Recent Federalist Society Teleforum on Sanctuary Cities

The event features Ilya Shapiro of the Cato Institute, and myself.


The Federalist Society has posted the audio of last week's teleforum on the sanctuary city/sanctuary state litigation of the last two years. The event featured presentations and rebuttals by Ilya Shapiro of the Cato Institute and myself. We covered all of the major sanctuary cases of the last two years, including challenges to President Trump's January 2017 executive order seeking to deny federal funds to sanctuary jurisdictions, cases involving then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions' efforts to force jurisdictions that receive federal law enforcement grants to assist in deportation efforts, and the legal battle over California's sanctuary state laws. I wrote about the big-picture issues for federalism at stake in the sanctuary cases here.

In the Teleforum, Ilya Shapiro agree on most of the questions at issue in the Trump executive order and Sessions law enforcement grant conditions cases, but differ on two of the three issues raised by the California sanctuary state case.

Because this event included both Ilya Shapiro and myself, there is a risk that it will exacerbate the already serious problem of #IlyaConfusion. Fortunately, I have created this definitive guide to telling the two libertarian Ilyas apart.

UPDATE: Unfortunately the audio at the Federalist Society website seems to include only first 2 minutes or so of the event. I have contacted the organizers and hope to have this fixed soon. In the meantime, I apologize for the annoyance.

UPDATE #2: The issue noted in the previous update has been resolved! The full audio is now available here, and also at the link in the text above.