Is Science Rigged for the Rich?
A recent study claiming inequality of opportunity in the sciences commits statistical and conceptual errors that make its findings meaningless.
HD DownloadA recent paper published by the Centre for Economic Policy Research, titled "Access to Opportunity in the Sciences: Evidence From the Nobel Laureates," found that 67 percent of science Nobel Prize winners have "fathers from above the 90th income percentile in their birth country." The authors, affiliated with Imperial College London, Dartmouth College, Princeton University, and the University of Pennsylvania, claim that their paper reveals extreme inequality in the science world and suggests that undiscovered geniuses from poor backgrounds never had the chance to show what they could do for humanity.
The study received considerable press attention, including a piece in The Guardian claiming that it showed "a lot of talent wasted…and breakthroughs lost."
"The Nobel prizes highlight that we have a biased system in science and little is being done to even out the playing field," wrote scientist Kate Shaw in Physics World. "We should not accept that such a tiny demographic are born 'better' at science than anyone else."
This study contains several statistical and conceptual errors, making its findings meaningless. It provides no evidence that unequal opportunity in science limits human progress.
For starters, how did the authors determine who was "born better" and thus had a better chance of winning a Nobel Prize? The study examined what their fathers did for a living. It found that since 1901, people with scientists for fathers had 150 times the chance of winning a science Nobel than the average person.
Scientists earn more on average, which allegedly shows that coming from a wealthier family gave them a boost. But it's common sense that the children of scientists will have an advantage in winning Nobel Prizes. Children of successful people often excel in the same fields as their parents. The size of the advantage may seem surprising, but this is typical when you look at the extremes of the bell curve. Even small initial advantages can result in extreme differences in outcome.
Suppose instead of Nobel Prizes in science we were talking about an Olympic gold medal for the 100-meter dash. Suppose everyone in the world got to participate. There would be thousands of people a step or two behind the winner.

Now, suppose that 10 percent of the population—say, anyone with a left-handed mother—had started the race with a two-step head start. The average runner with a left-handed mother would only be two steps ahead of the pack, but we can almost guarantee that the winner would be one of them.

But the authors don't treat winning a Nobel Prize like a race, they suggest it's like winning a coin-flipping contest in which innate talent, culture, and hard work don't matter.
"If talent and opportunity were equally distributed," they write, "the average winner's parent would be at the 50th percentile."
Let's say everyone in the world participates in a coin-flipping contest to get 24 heads in a row, which is similar to winning a Nobel Prize. The one percent with scientist fathers gets two free heads, giving them a modest 8 percent advantage and 300 times the chance of winning the contest.

The same mathematics applies to children of scientist fathers, who have 150 times the chance of winning a Nobel Prize. That could result from a modest eight percent advantage in scientific talent and opportunity. The bell curve strikes again.
So why would having a scientist father put someone 8 percentile points ahead of the pack? The study authors say it's their families' higher income or education, but those are not the first factors I would point to.
One key factor is genetics. Though we haven't identified a Nobel Prize gene, some helpful qualities for scientific accomplishment—like IQ, lack of major congenital disabilities, conscientiousness, and curiosity—are partly influenced by DNA. Another factor is culture, and having a scientist father makes it more likely you were born in an atmosphere that values science.
Of course, children of scientists are likely to have more opportunities. According to the study's authors, that's the problem we need to fix. When writing about the paper's findings on X, co-author Paul Novosad quoted Stephan Jay Gould: "I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops."
The paper's authors write, "Our evidence suggests that there is a large number of 'missing scientists'—individuals who could have produced important scientific discoveries, but did not receive the complementary inputs required over their lives to do so."
Of course, improving education and opportunities for workers in cotton fields and sweatshops is a worthwhile goal. However, the paper misunderstands how scientific discovery works. Just because the children of nonscientists aren't getting their share of Nobel Prizes doesn't mean they aren't making valuable contributions to science or other fields.
Scientific progress is based on the contributions and discoveries of thousands of people whose names we never hear. Geniuses are important, but innovation doesn't depend on one individual. We'd have Newton's laws without Isaac Newton, we'd understand radioactivity without Marie Curie, and we'd have found the Higgs boson without Peter Higgs. Literature is different: We wouldn't have Shakespeare's plays and sonnets without Shakespeare.
Redirecting all children into science to help equalize Nobel Prizes won't mean more Nobel Prizes, only perhaps different winners. It would likely mean more scientists, but perhaps more than we can fund. It could deprive the world of top contributors in other fields like literature, politics, arts, and entertainment—fields where, unlike science, top contributions cannot be duplicated by others. And it won't necessarily equalize outcomes, because children of high socioeconomic status will still have advantages over children of low socioeconomic status, whatever fields people choose.
Nobel Prize winners also aren't always the most productive scientists. Some recipients win for a single insight or a fortuitous observation. Often the winners seem to be nearly random selections from several people who published similar findings around the same time. Some Nobel Prizes were awarded for work that turned out to be wrong.
The paper did show that children of engineers, doctors, business owners, lawyers, and judges were also more likely to win Noble Prizes, although they had a smaller advantage than the children of scientists.
Again that advantage probably had more to do with genetics, interests, and culture than family wealth.
The paper also has another significant problem: The authors use the father's occupation to guess childhood income and education, which in turn are used to guess socioeconomic status. However, these are not perfect correlations.
The authors are applying group characteristics to individuals, which is a classic statistical error known as the ecological fallacy.
There are plenty of Nobel winners whose childhood socioeconomic status was typical of their fathers' professions. But there are also plenty who don't fit the mold.
Ada Yonath, who won the 2009 Nobel Prize in chemistry, had a father who was a business owner and rabbi, which the authors coded as the 98th education percentile. However, Yonath's father was actually an impoverished grocer who died when she was young, meaning she had to take on multiple jobs to support her family.
Harold Urey, who won the 1934 chemistry Nobel, was the son of a minister, placing him in the 98th education percentile. However, his father died when he was six, and he spent his childhood in poverty.
Linus Pauling won the 1954 Nobel Prize in chemistry. His father owned a business, and Linus was coded at the 97th wealth percentile. However, the business was a drug store, and Pauling's father got sick when he was five and died when he was nine. Pauling's practical-minded mother thought going to college was a waste of time.
The authors acknowledged this issue but claimed that the Nobel Prize winners in their study were, if anything, more likely to be born to fathers at the high socioeconomic status ranks of their fields, and therefore, the imperfect correlations strengthened their results.
This is circular reasoning. The authors want you to start by assuming their finding is true—that socioeconomic status is a causal factor in winning science Nobel Prizes.
Good scientific inquiry doesn't start by assuming what the author is trying to prove. This bias leads researchers to make false assumptions about evidence.
It's like a detective who assumes someone is guilty and considers having an alibi as additional evidence against her. Innocent people don't need alibis.
If you don't assume family socioeconomic status is the main factor in winning science Nobel Prizes, there's no reason to think the winners' fathers had higher-than-average socioeconomic status for their fields. And therefore the errors in guessing wealth and education from profession weaken the authors' case rather than strengthen it.
The authors of this study fail to realize that their data actually show that science Nobel Prizes seem to be more meritocratic than anyone would have guessed. There is certainly more advantage to having the right parents for winning Oscars, top political offices, and sports awards. But good news doesn't make for sensational headlines or viral social media posts.
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>>Is Science Rigged for the Rich?
the Nobel Prize for Science appears to be
[Scans list of Peace Nobel laureates, sees faces of Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Kofi Anaan, Barack Obama... notes suits, immaculate cultural/religious clothing, lack of obvious maluntrition or *checks notes* congenital deformity...]
Apparently Peace is rigged for The Rich too.
Nice to see all these fallacies clearly explained. When the authors have an emotionally motivated outcome already in mind before the study is done this is not real science, it is political activism masquerading as science.
claim that their paper reveals extreme inequality in the science world and suggests that undiscovered geniuses from poor backgrounds never had the chance to show what they could do for humanity
This tear down might carry more weight in a magazine that otherwise was less overtly deferring to burgeoning rappers, would-be M.D./Ph.D. food truck operators, and the downtrodden Next-gen diverse tech CEOs who really can't get traction because they come from places where people still wear headdresses.
And no mention of the "J" word. By most counts, we Jews have won about 20% of science Nobels and 50% of economics Nobels (yeah, I didn't realise that there were so many goyishe economists either). If you're born Jewish, you're about 100 times more likely (roughly) to get a Nobel prize than if you're not.
Clearly you can increase your chances of winning a Nobel prize by becoming Jewish.
Sheesh...
The entire concept is bizarre. I can't imagine very many people being surprised that a good upbringing increases the chance for success, or that having a scientist father increases the odds of becoming a scientist.
I hope USAID paid these idiots and now they have to find real work commensurate with their abilities, like sweeping streets with toothbrushes.
It may seem bizarre to normies, but it ain't bizarre once you've done the very ugly work of deep-diving into the critical theories sewer. This comes straight out of the the Marxist post-modernism (yeah, I said it Nick, and I'll debate you any day, any time on that) which evolved into the thing that's now called 'critical theories'. It's the idea that everything is tainted by "power knowledge" and "power words"-- ideas and vocabulary that are dominated by the powerful and wealthy-- and sidelines or ignores "marginalized voices"... thereby restricting what's sometimes referred to as "other way of knowing/other ways of doing".
It's the idea that our objective facts are neither objective, nor facts and in fact, objective truth and factt is a lie. That our 'facts and truth' are artifacts or mere representations of "one way of looking at the world" and that there are infinite ways of interpreting facts.
This whole thing can be shortened into: Scientific conclusions are entirely based upon "lived experience".
It's the idea that everything is tainted by "power knowledge" and "power words"-- ideas and vocabulary that are dominated by the powerful and wealthy
And they still are, even when the powerful and wealthy are running around screaming about how their power and wealth are really about helping the "marginalized."
This is the key way that most everyone misunderstands both Foucault and Derrida, who IMHO are the most actually relevant 'post-modernists.'
Foucault's whole point was that the language of toleration, inclusion, liberation, democracy, freedom, etc., is just as effective as a tool to oppress the marginalized as any other tools that have been used.
The person beating someone to death on the sidewalk is still the person beating someone to death on the sidewalk even if they're screaming about 'social justice' as they do so.
The trouble with the 'post-modernist' social justice warriors is that they only see your truth as contingent and context-bound. Theirs is still absolute and undeniable, which is what betrays the fact that they are still the ones wielding the power and privilege.
Foucault's whole point was that the language of toleration, inclusion, liberation, democracy, freedom, etc., is just as effective as a tool to oppress the marginalized as any other tools that have been used.
Yes, and this was... in my opinion (and not only my opinion) the source of his disillusion with Marxism and why the "Vulgar Marxists" hated the post-modernists. Marxists such as Derrida and Foucault became disenchanted with the marxist project in the east where the "vulgar Marxists" continued to cling to Stalinism and old-school industrial class-struggle.
Nick is correct that the those Marxists hated the post-modernists... but they merely adapted and adopted the cultural neo-marxism foretold by Gramsci-- that Marxism would never capture the working classes in the west, and that we must move on to other disenfranchised groups such as minorities, sexual minorities etc.
Nick is correct that the those Marxists hated the post-modernists... but they merely adapted and adopted the cultural neo-marxism foretold by Gramsci-- that Marxism would never capture the working classes in the west, and that we must move on to other disenfranchised groups such as minorities, sexual minorities etc.
Exactly, which is what Foucault and Derrida were trying to warn people about, and they are both still hated to this day by mainstream academics for having noticed that the cultural elites were growing less-and-less interested in the class-struggle aspect of Marxism (which is arguably fundamental to actual Marxism) and turning the tools of Marxist critical theory into an attack on working class cultural values as a way of preserving elite hegemony while calling it 'liberation.'
Derrida's Spectres of Marx made this argument really explicitly - that in the modern world Marx is a tool of oppression, not liberation, which got him cast out of respectable circles and condemned as a Nazi (his defense of Paul de Mann didn't help).
I actually went and saw him speak in the late '90s and the 'respectable' professors in the audience were literally booing and hissing.
I actually went and saw him speak in the late '90s and the 'respectable' professors in the audience were literally booing and hissing.
I'm guessing those 'respectable' professors were and are the new Critical Theories professors who-- while claiming to reject post-modernism, maintain, keep and use the playful, deconstructive language (because it's damned useful in disruption) to tear down the current order for the ultimate purpose of building a new, objective narrative that capitalism is a tool of the white supremacy... objectively so.
Pretty much, yes.
It goes right along with 100% inheritance taxes. Individualism scares the piss out of them. Ability, personal responsibility, anything which degrades the collective is anathema. Harrison Bergeron is their utopia. Except them, of course; they are the elites and deserve to tell everyone else how to live.
I can strongly recommend "Higher Superstition - The Academic Left and Its Quarrels with Science"
Am I the only one thinking: Magic words woven into magic spells?
Though we haven't identified a Nobel Prize gene, some helpful qualities for scientific accomplishment—like IQ, lack of major congenital disabilities,
Ever hear of Stephen Hawking?
Ever hear of Stephen Hawking?
Was he born like that?
No, buit apparently DLAM was
Hey Reason, this is critical theories making its way into the sciences (hint: It's already there). This is the culture war of which you wanted to sit on the sidelines.
From the examples given, apparently they just made up the family incomes. What a worthless study! And just what do they propose to do about it? From past experience, the solution is never to raise up the lower achievers, but rather to tear down the higher achievers. These types are already damaging science by favoring various minorities instead of those who are actually best.
The Nobel Science prizes are sexist and racist as well. Only 5 women won the science or economic prize alone. The rest were shared with men. Only 1 black man received an award for economics, Only one Mexican man for Chemistry. 5 Muslims, all men, won 4 for chemistry and one for Physics, Unfortunately the Pakistan government declared his sect to be non-Muslim. They clearly need more DEI in Stockholm.
"Some recipients win for a single insight or a fortuitous observation"
And let us never forget that the Nobel Prize is heavily weighted for social(ist) correctness! Perhaps the science prizes are a little less biased in that direction, but the Prize Committees are no less biased than the mainstream media, and that says a lot!
The literature and peace prizes are commonly highly "socialised" - but the science prizes and usually the economics prize tend to be legit, though in the early days they were too conservative, which is why Einstein didn't win for relativity.
Now do families of Prime Ministers and Presidents.
The findings of the study are sort of right, but not for the reason the authors intended. You don't have to waste time and money to know there are victims of circumstance. The study is so pointless and wasteful that it ironically proves its own point. The "researchers" had the means to pursue, publish and market this garbage. That's the only reason it exists as the information inherently has no value.
As for the supposed geniuses dying in the fields, I hate these fake problems where nobody offers a solution. What are you going to do, reorganize society to pre-screen for potential scientific contributions and assign worth to individuals on this basis? Let's start jailing people for criminal tendencies and pre-crime as well. It's only fair.
What are you going to do, reorganize society to pre-screen for potential scientific contributions and assign worth to individuals on this basis?
Which again just reveals the socio-economic priors of the people making these judgments. My father is arguably a genius who never went to college, but who is probably one of the top half-dozen most skilled auto mechanics west of the Mississippi who can hand-build parts for cars that aren't made anymore. From the point of view of the elites, his genius is "wasted" because he's not studying the effects of gender-affirming hormones on mice.
This whole thing puts me in mind of Dr. Charles Murray, one of the most controversial authors in modern history.
Yeah - that's actually one of the key things that chased me out of academia, luckily much earlier than it seems to have occurred to Murray. I took all these claims of superior understanding and cultural utopianism and tried to do the math on why every professor I knew was on their third marriage and third decade of therapy and yet were still so full of rage and dissatisfaction, usually at the failure of the world to sufficiently appreciate their genius. This was on the Humanities side, I should note.
it ironically proves its own point... the information inherently has no value
Researchers pretty sure about the presence of bias in Science analyze the data and conclude that confirmation bias does, in fact, exist.
Excellent! Haha!
Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair!
"I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops."
Well, this would be true for ANYONE working in cotton fields and sweatshops (and bakeries, mines, hotels, Walmart, gas stations, etc.). Thus the most logical thing we can do to get more scientific geniuses and breakthroughs is to put everyone in a lab, right?
Sadly, SJG did let his political position colour some of his scientific positions. He didn't take on board his own principle of non-overlapping magisteria when it came to political beliefs.
Get all the Einsteins in the lab, who failed his entrance exam because of his botany, zoology, and language scores, taking charge of the Mexicans working the farms and fields.
It just makes sense. In the name of equality. True genius at work.
DEI is about countering this. MAGA is about keeping this status quo.
Pay no attention to the upside-down airplane. DiVeRsItY iS oUr StReNgTh!
"The authors, affiliated with Imperial College London, Dartmouth College, Princeton University, and the University of Pennsylvania"
Now can you cite a legit author doing actual research not surviving on my tax money?
You haven't discovered America with these studies. I can't speak for everyone, but mathematics and pharmacology have long been a club for the elite. People have equal opportunities only in words. It's true. Part of what I like about the internet is that it helps me find new opportunities. I found a part-time job site myself - https://1x-bet-ireland.com/ But not all people know how to search and find important information on the Internet.
As with more and more articles on here, a 3rd answer is just ruled out.
This --- in both of your analyses --- is the classic Julian Simon anti-Abortion argument :
""Our evidence suggests that there is a large number of 'missing scientists'—individuals who could have produced important scientific discoveries, but did not receive the complementary inputs required over their lives to do so."
Abortion kills humans and so kills PROGRESS
I'm a Mechanical Engineer. For a while my Niece and her daughter lived with me. I often worked from home and my Great Niece would watch while I worked. As she got older, I started to explain things to her and she became interested. After my Niece and Great Niece moved out she kept her interest. Some times I'd take her to work with me and she learned more. Now she's 15 on the Honor Roll and is thinking about schools.
My point is that I'm not "rich", neither are her parents. This article is just more Liberal bullshit. One thing that isn't mentioned here is that the children of engineers and scientists are exposed to things that many children may not be. I'll take any and all bets that if you look, the children of athletes, musicians and actors are more likely to follow in their parents footsteps.
I don't know if we are really talking liberal BS but I agree with you one hundred percent that exposure during youth will greatly influence a child's direction as an adult. There is no real way to address this fact. The only thing I would suggest is that if teachers spot a child with potential but without resources that they have programs to enrich that child. I also think that universities and private businesses, like you own, can help by offering mentor opportunities for high potential/low opportunity children. Some call this DEI but I see this as DEI as it is expected to work.