Elon Musk Warns Tucker Carlson: The Feds Are in Your Twitter DMs
The feds invoke national security to take away more of your rights and pretend they're keeping you safe.
HD DownloadWho's that sliding into your Twitter DMs? Is it the federal government? Well, according to Elon Musk, who took over the social media platform last year, government bureaucrats were routinely taking a close look at users' content.
Thanks to the Twitter Files, a collaboration between Elon Musk and independent journalists, as well as the Facebook Files, my own investigative project for Reason, we now know that social media companies constantly faced pressure to censor speech—and that pressure was coming from the government. The State Department, the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, and even the White House all targeted legitimate online speech. Federal law enforcement agents flagged tweets and posts for deletion under the guise of protecting national security.
And no one should be surprised. The feds love to invoke national security, and then take away more of your rights and pretend they're keeping you safe.
Well, guess what: They're at it again. Following a massive leak of U.S. intelligence documents that were posted on Discord, another social media platform, the Biden administration wants more power to monitor online chat rooms.
A senior administration official told NBC News that the government "is now looking at expanding the universe of online sites that intelligence agencies and law enforcement authorities track."
That's bad. We know where it will lead: More government surveillance of the American people, and eventually, more censorship of political speech. In the runup to the 2020 election, for example, the FBI warned social media sites to be wary of Russian-based disinformation. But then they also started flagging joke tweets written by Americans that happened to be about the election.
You see, the feds just can't help themselves: They'll use the new powers we give them to pressure the internet to shut down dissent. We've seen it happen time and again.
So let's keep the government out of our chatrooms. And watch out for your DMs.
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Because it shouldn't need to be said, but so many look but can't see:
All social media is online.
Anything and everything online can be seen by anyone knowing how to code.
The only way to avoid surveillance is to not be online, and even that just makes it less likely.
If you vote for fascists, you get fascism.
I'd even quibble with that. The only way to avoid surveillance is to burry yourself in a hole.
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You are probably more secure with an effective crypto-based communication with friends than you are having a conversation at a bar.
Whose crypto-based communication? Developed by whom, maintained by who and what?
Lots of stories (and rumours) about NSA and deep state tech people getting "involved" in open source projects.
Sure, until one of those friends turns "state's evidence" and gives the feds all your "private" messages.
It may be encrypted, but unless you're the only one with a key, that's not really enough to keep it secret under all circumstances.
Those obviously aren't effective if you are using something silly that can be exploited like that.
But I stand by my words- everything has drawbacks, even talking in a bar or trading letters. PGP has been an effective communication method that sidesteps government surveillance for 20 years.
"All social media is online."
Yes, but DM's are private correspondence, not public tweets or Facebook posts, so it's basically illegal tapping.
"You can't hack a typewriter" - Ron Swanson
Yeah, but have you ever tried to watch porn on a typewriter?
yes. slightly better than on an etch a sketch
According to a former NSA operative, the Feds can see and hear everything, no matter what type of software and private software you use. When a government sensors dissent, it ceases to exists as a democracy, and becomes a tyrannical government and all those who willingly participate, the FBI, CIA, NSA, Justice Department, and corrupt Politicians, to augment and uphold that unconstitutional tyranny, are no different than the willing apparatchiks of the former Soviet Union. The US is sliding fast into the depths of a police state.
^^THIS^^ +100000000000000.
Well said
It doesn't matter for me on Twitter anymore. Once on, I was constantly harassed by Leftists regarding my political beliefs. Several determined antagonists promised I'd be banned permanently, and that's exactly what happened.
"as well as the Facebook Files, my own investigative project for Reason"
Was it really an investigative "project"? Or was it just re-publishing the investigative work of two state Attorneys General?
Anyways, it is good to get this stuff published far and wide.
"when you vote for fascists you get fascism". At least as far as what the Democrats are doing and how they are acting that is a true statement. True to their color, the fascists are labeling everyone else as fascist.
Seems at least a few of those sheeple that follow the fascists pointing at all else and calling them fascists would have read some actual history and know the difference. Too bad that our education system does not teach history any longer.
What if you don't vote for fascists but the fascists win anyway, because they run the elections and have to protect you from fascism and you don't know what's good for you anyway? What do you do when they start putting people in jail who complain?
The Democrats despise business and yet are all multimillionaires. They insist on ever higher taxes to help the poor; each and every time they manage it they get richer and more powerful while the poor get more numerous and poorer. This isn't exactly a hard equation to solve.
What's a DMs?
DM = Direct Message
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They're spying on direct messages which are private messages between two people.
The equivalent of tapping a phone line.
I can just hear them using the "third party doctrine" to justify it.
The equivalent of tapping a phone line.
But much easier. With the DMs, you just gotta ask Zuckerberg or Dorsey and then the FBI hack who works in the office next to him forwards all the communications.
"The feds invoke national security to take away more of your rights and pretend they're keeping you safe."
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they're not in my DMs.
Sarcasmic says that this is a conspiracy theory.
Sarc is just an asshole. Not worth anyone's time, or a response.
Sarcasmic has also consumed the collective weight of the commentariat (including Groomer Jeffy) in bottom shelf liquor.
Thats a lot of weight if it includes jeff.
He’s consumed a whole lot of booze. It takes a lot of booze for a lifelong alcoholic like him to be as drunk as he is all the time.
I've been told repeatedly that this is just private companies and not anything anybody should worry or care about. Wasn't that you spouting that crap at every opportunity Robby?
Just because you're consistently 5 years late to condone it after abuse has already occurred doesn't mean you're not a libertarian.
And until that interview it was a conspiracy theory despite all the other evidence.
They wouldn't do this to the general public would they? I was assured these sorts of backdoors would only be used against killers, drug dealers and other violent criminal elements.
“…killers, drug dealers and other violent criminal elements.”
“Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.”
There are about 5,000 federal criminal codes, and somewhere over 360,000 regulations [attempts have been made to count them, including the OMB, but they gave up because it is an impossible task] in the CFR.
So how do you honestly know that you are not a criminal? According to the feds, I commit several felonies a day, without even realizing it. Own a gun and take a toke? That’ll get you 15 years in the slammer, and you don’t have to actually harm any one. Transfer some money between your checking and savings accounts? You money laundering son of a bitch!
Oh, I'm definitely a criminal*. The part you quoted was pulled from a Trump tweet on the subject of breaking encryption.
*for legal purposes this a lie, no mens rea for any crime I may have accidentally committed. Not that mens rea is a thing anymore.
If you are referring to "Show me the man...," it is from a true master of terror:
Lavrentiy Beria, the most ruthless and longest-serving secret police chief in Joseph Stalin’s reign of terror in Russia and Eastern Europe, bragged that he could prove criminal conduct on anyone, even the innocent. “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime” was Beria’s infamous boast. He served as deputy premier from 1941 until Stalin’s death in 1953, supervising the expansion of the gulags and other secret detention facilities for political prisoners. He became part of a post-Stalin, short-lived ruling troika until he was executed for treason after Nikita Khrushchev’s coup d’etat in 1953. Beria targeted “the man” first, then proceeded to find or fabricate a crime. Beria’s modus operandi was to presume the man guilty, and fill in the blanks later. By contrast, under the United States Constitution, there’s a presumption of innocence that emanates from the 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendments, as set forth in Coffin vs. U.S. (1895).
Read more at: https://www.oxfordeagle.com/2018/05/09/show-me-the-man-and-ill-show-you-the-crime/
It is estimated that he had his agents procure as many as 1500 young women, whom he raped with impunity.
To each according to his need, comrade.
No the“…killers, drug dealers and other violent criminal elements.”
But yeah my grandfather was heavily involved in anti-communism in his career and drilled the reasons why, Beria/Stalin "justice" being one of them.
This no longer about actual crimes. It's way more sinister than that. This has devolved into persecuting political opponents and ideologies.
Those are crimes now. Being an opponent or having the wrong ideology, that is.
It never was about crime, it's always about power when it comes to the Feds.
I was assured these sorts of backdoors would only be used against killers, drug dealers and other violent criminal elements.
Are covid skeptics, mask resisters, trans-deniers not violent criminal elements?
According to mike, they are killers
Yes, until the next election, then we get a whole new list of "criminals". Also you forgot parents at PTA meetings - the most dangerous domestic terrorists.
Ya know, actual fascism.
I guess it's good that Elon said it, otherwise it'd just be another conspiracy turned fact.
It's strange that Musk didn't include this in the information he released for the "Twitter Files".
Did he just discover it? Did it slip his mind?
Yeah... Where's the proof?? /s
The Feds need to SUE Elon Musk for defamation!!! /s
Welcome to the USA Nazi-Gestapo police.
Perhaps every government meeting and interaction should be recorded and made available by the public to browse and view at whims of the public.
This would provide a method for the public to protect themselves from the lies and dishonesty of the government.
Of course this would need to be required by law and failure to record each and every meeting and interaction should be punishable. Also remove any access to qualified immunity or privileges of office.
I distrust any government that spies on it's citizens and there is zero justification for the massive opportunity for abuse that eventually will occur.
The Federal gov't helps the states lead the entire world in imprisonment, primarily by stalking & imprisoning black people for things white people do more. Yet somehow this writer believes that these horrible white supremacists are the truly oppressed by gov't surveillance.
OK Mr. Author you make some pretty valid points. One question for you however. If, via fair elections, a bunch of ultra right wingers occupy government offices, then would you be equally opposed to this governmental meddling?
We saw how they reacted when a '90s Democrat was president for four years. "It's a private company, they can do what they want."
LMAO.... You're flipping the two.
It was Trump is after NYT and that an invasion of the 1A.
But when the Democracts were doing it; "It's a private company, they can do what they want."
Is your bias making up sh*t again?
Correction, they only flag "joke tweets" if they're actually funny.
Dude.
The EFF was talking about Carnivore over twenty years ago. You're a bit late to the party.
Are the feds also in our BMs? Asking for a sitting president.
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Time to defund the Federal government.
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UN-Constitutional Nazi-Agencies **ARE** the Gestapo police???
Was this suppose to be surprising to anyone but complete morons?
Oh look at that; The US Constitution was important after all.
I hope they’ve spent millions of dollars and thousands of hours monitoring my discussions about guitars, books, and Jeeps. I hope there is a team of young scrappy recruits recording every vapid joke I make. I hope they've had round-table and bullpen discussions about the frequency of my visits to YouPorn. I hope they go back to their on-base apartments at night with my life in their heads and in their dreams.
I hope that when they eventually commit suicide either by a bullet or alcohol they are thinking of me.
This is a very tough subject – all started with the Patriot Act and Bush II. Obviously we all HATE the idea of gov’t “spying” on its citizens, etc.
But if a dumb-ass/duped citizen is taking Russian talking points – America/democracy-damaging disinformation – and spreading it all over the place - creating all sorts of manufactured unrest and even insurrection - that’s DAMN NEAR the same thing as Russian agents doing it themselves – and no one would mind the gov’t defending our country and democracy against those Russian agents/attacks, right?
We live in a world of information WAR. We are AT war. Anti-democratic forces want nothing more than to see the United States and other democracies fail.
If we didn’t have SUPER-IRRESPONSIBLE “news” organizations (Fox, etc) and far-right websites spreading around and amplifying those same lies, radicalizing so many otherwise ill-informed citizens, the gov’t wouldn’t have to “spy” on citizens to thwart Russia and other enemies of democracy.
True Patriots check FACTS. They do NOT spread lies, esp about their own country and the people living in it. If citizens would CHECK FACTS FIRST before forwarding/posting, this whole problem would go away INSTANTLY.
Don't forward even ONE more email/post containing suspicious "facts" (and hate, etc), before checking those "facts" as well as you can. We can hugely benefit from existing and excellent fact-checking organizations that dig for the truth 24/7. Find one you trust (and is verified by OTHER organizations), and USE IT.
OK then, and how do we protect ourselves against gov't abuse of "spying"?
We trust the FREE PRESS (be ESPECIALLY suspicious of sources/posts that question the integrity of our free press). And again, we use other existing and excellent organizations that fight for democracy and to KEEP THE GOV'T IN LINE.
And if the government really DOES abuse its powers? We use DEMOCRACY and VOTE THEM OUT.
That's how a democracy works. It is messy but it's the best we have.
Unlimited Democracy is EXACTLY what's been going on and EXACTLY how this nation got to this point....
Your idiocy is EXACTLY the problem. "If only the Right TOP-MEN are in charge of everything!!" /s over and over and over again....
And what is suppose to ensure a "FREE PRESS"????
Think about it.
Here's a hint; It's often referred to as the Supreme Law (The people's LAW over their "democratic" government).