A video of a 13-year-old working at Chick-fil-A went viral recently after an advocacy group called More Perfect Union uploaded it to Twitter and then pointed the finger at the "National Restaurant Association—a lobby group funded by big food corporations," calling it "a key driver behind new bills letting kids work dangerous jobs."
Sure, taking drive-thru orders and slinging waffle fries at a Chick-fil-A your dad owns sounds like the definition of danger. Exactly like working in a coal mine.
Over the past year, to help deal with labor shortages, several states have pushed for legislative changes that would let more teenagers work. New Jersey enacted a bill allowing 16-year-olds to work up to 50 hours a week during summer break with parental approval. In Ohio, the legislature is considering a proposal that would make it possible for 14- and 15-year-olds to work longer hours during the school year—one of the few policies Democrats and Republicans in the legislature agree on. And last month, Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders signed a bill that eliminated a requirement that 14- and 15-year-olds obtain a permit before getting a job.
These bills don't primarily benefit the big food lobby, as the union-backed group that posted the video claims. And it's not an evil plot to exploit children for profit. The people who stand to benefit most are teenagers themselves, who by having a job can learn to show up on time, follow instructions, work collaboratively, and manage money that they earned themselves and therefore value more.
"I feel as if I've learned so much from this simple job over the past few years," a teen who worked as a ski instructor told The New York Times in 2022. "I've learned how to work with children, become a better teacher, and how to help different people based on how they learn new skills."
"My job has helped me personally in many ways, I was super shy before I started and now I am more confident," added another high school student, who was working 5 days a week after school. "I have learned time management so that I can get from school to work and then come home and do homework."
Plenty of data backs up the claim that holding a job as a teen has positive effects. A 2016 paper in the Southern Economic Journal, for example, found that high schoolers working 20 hours a week during their senior year had 12 percent higher earnings in their careers than those that didn't, although that wage premium has declined over the years.
"In a job, teens are forced to discover or build out parts of themselves that are not required for school, home or sports," psychologist Lisa Damour told The Washington Post last year. She stressed that having a job teaches kids to answer to adults who aren't their parents, because when they do the same thing "over and over, there's no need to grow."
We need to stop treating teenagers as inherently fragile, or they'll become that way. Real-world exposure to the challenge of getting paid to do things that other people value will benefit them for the rest of their lives.
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Still, it's refreshing to see an article from Emma that is actually libertarian, here.
100% not complaining about the author or article this time.
Unemployment is a tragedy for anyone
able to walk,said Emerson.
My, how things have changed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbGthv-dJp4&ab_channel=AK47bandit
"letting kids work dangerous jobs"
As I recall, many household chores expected to be done by your teenagers, are actually pretty dangerous compared to manning a drive through window:
you might run the power mower over your foot, you might fall down the steps taking out the trash, a cop may approach you while walking your dog.
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I had a babysitter when I was a kid who only had the inner three toes and metatarsals on one foot due to a lawnmower accident.
I had a friend's younger brother with two weirdly crooked toes. Mower accident but sewed back on.
Picking oakum has always been a job preferred by teenagers
I was picking potatoes on Gramp's farm by the time I was six.
Really? Spuds have to be dug up, right?
You mean okra? Prickly stuff indeed. I don't know if adults who would pick it without long sleeves or gloves.
Rural preteen and teen chores, set the bar.
Driving tractors & ATVs, stretching fences, running a chainsaw & a wood splitter, shooting predators, slaughter & butchering; the list goes on and on.
I knew kids on Eastern Long Island whose chores included shooting varmints on their families' duck farms. I stuck to my paper route {possible traffic accident while riding my bike,} mowing laws, other yard work until I was old enough to flip burgers.
Remember, sex work is work.
Ignore what they say and focus on what they don’t say.
They didn’t say “sex work for teens” which means they meant “sex work for teens.”
Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
Wait, what's wrong with Teens doing sex work?
Now you're defending Reason? That's treason!
I'm defending Teen Vogue.
Holy shit Late Rome is really kicking in the afterburner here.
I've always considered myself to be less of a hired goon and more of an influencer within the broader BDSM sphere. Look, contracts, explicitly-stated consent... it just spoils the whole illusion. So, instead, my clients just borrow money from people who openly state that I or one of my associates will break their legs if they don't pay them back. People think I'm a sadist, but it's all just performative. The client is completely safe and can call off the performance at any time with the safe phrase "I'll give you the money. I've got it right here.'
You'd be an object lesson to teach kids to use that Sharper Image Coin Wrapper...as well as eat fish for brain food.
Looks like you apply the "ignore what they say" rule to everyone, being that your quote says "consenting adults" and you claim they said "teens". That or you're trying to be a bigger liar than JesseAz. I don't think that's possible though. Especially because you'd have to shed at least 30 IQ points.
being that your quote says “consenting adults” and you claim they said “teens”
Your new "what they don't say" schtick in every thread is already boring and I really don't want to gratify your need for attention, but this is mind-numbingly obtuse. The article is in Teen Vogue. It is undeniably meant for a teen audience. 18 & 19 year-olds are "consenting adults".
Your not-so-witty rejoinder is nothing but performative outrage.
The article mentions the ages 14, 15 and 16 as teenagers.
That obviously does not mean 18 and 19 year old adults.
Are you stupid or mendacious?
The article mentions the ages 14, 15 and 16 as teenagers.
SARC 101: when criticized, don't double check your reference, just double down on the performative outrage.
Quote from the article: ...high schoolers working 20 hours a week during their senior year had 12 percent higher earnings in their careers than those that didn't...
Not too many seniors are 14, 15 or 16. Most are 18 by the time they graduate, still teens, while also "consenting adults". Your critical thinking skills really need work. They have classes you can take online. Sobriety also helps.
"Most are 18 by the time they graduate"
Are they? Honest question.
We've gone from an article talking about 14, 15 and 16 year-olds benefiting from work, and you guys claim it means Reason supports teenage prostitution because some high school seniors are 18?
And you accuse me of performative outrage?
I'm blinded and deafened by your projection.
Are they? Honest question.
I was 17.
And you accuse me of performative outrage?
Why, yes, I do.
...you guys claim it means Reason supports teenage prostitution because some high school seniors are 18?
What the fuck else would you call that pantsload? Seriously, you have gone full SQRLSY.
Kinda makes sense seeing as SQRSLY One is one of sarcasmic's sockpuppet accounts that the retarded drunk has outed several times by posting his SQRSLY copypasta from his sarcasmic handle.
Good lord, all I did was suggest that your daughter going on the pole is yet one more choice of work she could engage in! What's unlibertarian about that?
Well some states are considering letting 16 year olds go to the polls, so why not the poles?
Seriously, if they can be mature enough to decide without parental input about abortion or gender affirming care, then why can't they also decide to have sex for money?
I think Sarc doesn’t want the competition. Sucking cock at the transit authority men’s room is essential for him to augment his booze budget. A grizzled, broken down crap sack who looks like William Windom after a three day bender doesn’t compete well with teenage runaways.
Perv........
It takes jobs away from those with families to feed. Until the teens get knocked up.
"Sure, taking drive-thru orders and slinging waffle fries at a Chick-fil-A your dad owns sounds like the definition of danger. Exactly like working in a coal mine."
The local DQ here in coastal Oregon was advertising for 14-year-olds to work during the Covid boondoggle. What child-abusing fascists these be!!
all the "adults" aling the coast boogied up to Portland and Seattle for the freebies being passed out by the heartrhrob locals. Tent cities,riots every night, stores to empty out, free food.... why work?
Those 14 year olds who stayed behind to DO SOMETHING were the winners.
"sex work"
Enb, shackford
Don't forget minimum wage laws pricing the unskilled and inexperienced out of a job.
Are you implying they are saying something by omitting something ?
I think he’s complaining that he can’t even earn minimum wage giving blowjobs at the bus station.
Most States have done a decent job managing this issue. Reason keeps trying to infer that 17 year olds today are not permitted to work 20 minutes a month cutting a neighbor's grass - I compared most States to my being told a long time ago, to get my working papers at 16 and getting a full time (and after school) job for the coming summer and it's not much different today. If you really want to solve this issue, deport every illegal in this country, '...by any means necessary...'.
I live in an area where most of the semi-skilled and unskilled jobs are performed by illegals. My in-laws are retired dairy farmers who relied on illegals during the last few years they kept the farm in operation. People who rage against illegal Mexicans/ Guatemalans/ etc. would be griping just as loudly about prices or availability if those workers were in fact deported. Before he gave up and hired two Mexican brothers, my brother-in-law had gone through 7 hired hands in the previous 6 months. All seemed well suited for the work. 5 had grown up on farms and knew the work involved. But as soon as the temperature dropped to around zero my BIL said he *knew* that he would be the only one in the milking parlor at 4AM. The locals simply would not do the work. The Mexicans, OTOH were with him for 2 years. One of the two called in sick *once*. The other never missed a day.
We have put ourselves in an untenable situation by demanding that illegals must exit the country and apply from their home country. We need their labor. We just do. And the people who insist that they would be happy to allow migrant laborers to come in in through legitimate channels are largely full of shit and merely want to stomp on the fingers of whomever is beneath them on the socio-economic ladder. The people I see around where I live who are most vocal about illegals are on disability or unemployment as it is. They simply refuse to do the work that Mexicans will do without missing a day. The whole "By any means necessary" addition makes it pretty clear you're upset at more than Mexicans stealing the jobs no American will do. I guess it must hurt to be shamed by hardworking people- especially if they speak a foreign language.
I've employed spics on painting crews before and have had exactly two show up after they got their first paycheck at 2 weeks on the job. Never heard from them again. Might be why they make up half of the prison population and have the highest incidence of drunk driving of any ethnic group. If those people are outclassing you when it comes to laziness, you're probably just a piece of shit. Sounds like a you problem.
You might persuade without the bigoted language.
And the people who insist that they would be happy to allow migrant laborers to come in through legitimate channels are largely full of shit and merely want to stomp on the fingers of whomever is beneath them on the socio-economic ladder.
A mind reader walks amongst us.
Most people just want everyone to play by the same rules and not have border towns in TX, NM, AZ overrun with desperate people who have just been scammed by coyotes.
“Sure, taking drive-thru orders and slinging waffle fries at a Chick-fil-A your dad owns sounds like the definition of danger. Exactly like working in a coal mine.”
My understanding, or at least it was the case when I was growing up, was that there were exceptions in the labor laws for children under 16 who were immediate family in a small business situation. Also exceptions for being paid under minimum wage, for family of ownership.
Either that, or my folks were lying, no-good whip-cracking child slave masters.
There was a time when farmers needed the family to work the farm including the kids. Obviously, the solution to that is to get rid of family owned farms.
Yep. Then we sold the farm in 1978 - the grandparents farm that my dad ran. I ended up getting a job as a busboy.
As of 1993 in MD, that was the case for under 16. I still have a copy of the letter my grandma wrote asking permission to officially hire me. Though I was made min wage (that may have been more because the computer system or just hassle of explaining). I thought I was getting a raise (worked for my grandparents for years unofficially) until I found out about withholding taxes.
I worked in a few family-owned restaurants where the kids would help out after school. Taught them a great work ethic.
Unfortunately it's OMG CHILD LABOR if a kid that age who isn't family is put to work.
I have a neighborhood assistant who is about 11 years old now. His parents drop him off to mow my yard or if I have a project. I pay him cash. He's done construction - breaking up a concrete patio and loading a truck with concrete rubble. He has run my gas mower and now my new electric one. Trying to get his parents to let him just ride his bike over but it is a bit far.
Also, has a 10 year boy knock on the door asking if I needed the yard mowed. Offered to do it for a dollar. Ok, I thought, this is gonna be good. I pulled out the gas mower, self propelled with a working dead man switch blade clutch. I started it for him and showed him how to it works. He ended up mowing the front yard poorly and then annonced he had to go home for supper. Ok, I give ~$2 in change and told him to come back and finish the back yard with the intention of paying him a reasonable amount. He never returned. Note my whole yard is small enough for me battery powered self propelled mower to do it in one charge
Thank God he knocked on your door, and not Shrike’s.
"Real-world exposure to the challenge of getting paid to do things that other people value will benefit them for the rest of their lives. "
Preparing children for a lifetime of meek subservience is exactly what got us into this mess in the first place.
You want to foster independence, resourcefulness, and a cosmopolitan worldliness unobtainable at a fast food grill? Travel is the way to go. The further the better. You think flipping burgers is a challenge? Try negotiating for food, shelter and sex in a language you've never heard before.
Yeah. That will work.
You think challenging kids is setting them to work flipping burgers? You underestimate their capabilities. They can do much more than the menial labor adults eschew. Childhood is about exploration and discovering hidden potentials and talents. Leave the drudgery to the less than stellar adults. Those who really do find flipping burgers a compelling and challenging career.
Working as a youngster at menial tasks does far more than "preparing them for a lifetime of meek subservience!" It teaches them important skills that will continue to benefit them long after they become qualified for much less subservient occupations, while motivating them to pursue less subservient occupations. But if you feel that sneering at people who support themselves instead of leeching off mommy to travel in Europe makes you look hip, knock yourself out.
"Working as a youngster at menial tasks does far more than “preparing them for a lifetime of meek subservience!”
No question about that. It's inculcating them into the ideology of the protestant work ethic. You, the author, and the rest of the commenters still seem to be in thrall to it.
Take the case of Tani Adewumi. Came to America as a refugee from Nigeria at the age of 7. His family lived in abject poverty in New York. Did his parents put him to work doing menial jobs in the fast food business? No. The taught him chess and within a year, he was winning tournaments. Just last year, the US government granted his family permanent status which allowed young Tani to compete internationally. He achieved a FIDE Master title and seems to have the aggressive 'killer instinct' that separates those with a future in chess from other child prodigies that quickly fade away. The moral of the tale: Don't sell your children short, setting them to menial tasks adults are desperate to avoid. They have amazing potential, even illegal immigrants from Nigeria!
" But if you feel that sneering at people who support themselves instead of leeching off mommy to travel in Europe makes you look hip, knock yourself out."
You misunderstand me. I don't recommend travel to Europe. Try Asia, Africa or South America instead. Where the future lies. And mommy is a great back stop for assistance, which the young will probably have to turn to at some point. Your need to demean the role of motherhood is typical of commenters here. I bet you also hold nannies in contempt. Supporting yourself with work while traveling is a great way to learn independence and resourcefulness. I understand it falls outside your experience and expectations and is hip and bohemian, and you are more comfortable having children doing menial tasks like flipping burgers or mining cobalt for your mobile phone. Broaden your horizons if it's not too late is my advice.
This video skips over the most important question - Did Emma ever get that drink? And was she wearing that dress in the bar?
Emma is old enough to babysit?
Well, she sounds like a 15-year old girl, so yes.
That could pay big dividends for here if she decides to become a camwhore to supplement her meager salary from Reason.
Well, she sounds like a 15-year old girl, so yes.
As the father of teens/tween (boys), I think 15 would be the high end of the estimate.
ya. why I went with babysit.
One of my most positive experiences as a child was being allowed to help my cousins with farm chores during summers. I was a military brat and, although I thought the positives of moving every two years far outweighed the negatives, having a summer home provide me with roots that made those negatives much more tolerable. There is probably no occupation more dangerous than farming, yet I managed to survive driving farm tractors, operating Bache hoes and digging post-holes, feeding the hogs and baling hay at a younger age than any of the legislative proposals mentioned in the article. Not only did I grow up feeling more a part of society, I also felt more valuable being trusted to do more and more important chores and freeing up my cousins to do other things.
When you like what you're voluntarily doing with people you like, it is not work. The problem arise when a society allows productivity to be stolen from the producers and flow upwards to the 1% due to political power and not due to any merit on their part that we have a serious problem. You had an ideal life -- helping people whom you loved and liked and who loved and liked you. That's the opposite of being abused for someone else's profit
"If teens can consent to taking castrating and mentally/physically debilitating hormones, and can consent to medical procedures (abortions), then why again cant they consent to sex or sex work?"
- is a question the libertine lefty insanity cult has to answer
And then the follow up, "so how are you not a bunch of groomers?"
Hey, Mike! Why did you stop beating your wife?
That's not a bad first question (well, the abortion part for sure, are there laws proposed about 'castrating and...hormones' for teens without parental consent).
But it's easy to see that whatever answer they give to it doesn't imply "grooming" (they can hold whatever position without endorsing "manipulative behaviors that the abuser uses to gain access to a potential victim, coerce them to agree to the abuse, and reduce the risk of being caught").
There sure are! Hope that helps, Marxist faggot.
So true! Supporting laws that explicitly protect grooming behaviors does not necessarily make you a groomer. You might just be an altruistic groomer supporter who protects groomers out of the goodness of your heart. And that's totally different and noble.
You've got a repressed sex problem.
Hilariously, the reason so few teens work is because all of the minimum wage and under-the-table cash jobs are all occupied by the 25 million 3rd grade educated illiterate-in-two-languages brown people you insist we need another 20 million more of because there's such an extreme shortage of farm laborers and pool boys. It would be hilarious if you actually lived within 1,000 miles of the southern border and got raped and killed by one of them who skipped back to Mexico scot-free, like the thousands of American women who actually do have to share breathing space with these cockroaches.
Hi Tulpa.
Hi SQRSLY! It's funny this offends you since you stated you had never heard of a Cuban sandwich despite being a trained professional gourmet chef and working in professional kitchens because there's no spics in Maine. It would be even more hilarious if you got raped and killed by one.
You're an idiot and a racist. How many Mexican workers do you actually know?
I've employed about 18 of them over the years, Tony.
I worked as a kid and so did my children. I don't think the problem is government. The problem is parents who want their kid to focus on school or parents who don't want to be inconvenienced dropping kids off or picking them up. I also fault our college system and entrance applications which will give a kid credit for being a third string quarterback, but no credit for two years working at a fast food restaurant.
Just because you were abused does not mean abuse is good. I worked at 10 years old b/c I wanted to and went out and got 10 lawn cutting jobs in the neighborhood. If I was not treated properly, I quit that job. If I was not paid properly, I quit that job. I did not like baseball as I found it boring and gave me no exercise and the coach was an ass. Thus, I told Little League to shove it and got my jobs. I had to do something and most kids I know like to do stuff, but the idea of formal working to make some WS jerk-off wealthier is not want any kid wants.
Lol. So working is all well and good as long as its done illegally and under the table. You're really bad at this Tony.
Notice that it is Union groups that are pushing against this. One thing that a lot of people don't realize is that a minor cannot enter into a binding contract. This includes union contracts.
Compulsory school attendance laws and those restricting working by minors have been supported by union heads for a long time. While some might sincerely care about kids one can't ignore the anti-competitive effects of such legislation.
This article errs on several accounts: it begins by mocking the idea that working in the kitchen at a restaurant is “dangerous.” In fact, it is: “Commercial kitchens are hazardous by nature. Danger comes with the territory when you’re surrounded by knives, hot ovens, boiling oil, and slippery floors. Over 93,000 non-fatal injuries were recorded by restaurant workers in the previous year.” US law does not prohibit child labor but regulates it: “Federal child labor law generally prohibits the employment of minors in nonagricultural occupations under the age of 14, restricts the hours and types of work that can be performed by minors under 16, and prohibits the employment of minors under the age of 18 in any hazardous occupation.”
In many states, child labor laws are very permissive: “. In Arizona, children as young as 16 years of age can work during school hours, and outside of school hours children 14 years of age and older can be employed.” Now children can be doing 3 things: formal learning (school), enjoying the freedom of childhood in play and imaginative games, and working (where often informal learning takes place but learning to flip burgers or empty trash cans has very little educational value that will be useful). I will add “wasting time” but often this is an adult imposition on something a child enjoys (playing video games or watching cartoons). I would argue in my state of Arizona, a child working during school hours is losing the opportunity to educate himself and rise to an adult work level of both higher skills (and enjoyment) and income. The cost is lost opportunity. And children working instead of playing are losing the greatest gift of all, the gift of developing our imagination. Children are almost always given the most boring, repetitive,and unrewarding jobs, such as, historically, “Children performed all sorts of jobs including working on machines in factories, selling newspapers on street corners, breaking up coal at the coal mines, …” Where I lived in the Santa Cruz mts, I found skids used 80 years before for sliding redwoods down to the river. These skids were maintained by children as young as 1- or 12, greasing the skids with bear grease, as redwoods with 10 ft diameters slipped by. Most lost fingers or worse in this job. Let us consider why, globally, children work (72 million between ages 5 and 12) and ask if any of these reasons exist in the richest nation in history: “What are the causes of child labour? Poverty Like so many other issues in the world, the root cause of child labour is poverty. Unemployment and the need to survive often lead families to make desperate decisions. Lack of education can also impact children – since their parents may not understand or see the short and long-term value of their child receiving an education instead of working. Crisis Natural disasters or the death of one of both parents can force children into hazardous work to help their family survive day-to-day. Chronic emergencies Things like repeat drought or famine can leave families in dire circumstances where working to survive is one of the few options. Conflict War or government corruption can turn the lives of children upside down, forcing them to abandon schooling and regular routines to earn a living. Demand The demand for low prices and cheap obedient labour can trap children in hazardous work. ” worldvision.ca
Here is a cautionary recent story of why calls to expand child labor is wrong-headed and dangerous: “The Labor Department said Friday it found 102 children as young as 13 working hazardous overnight jobs cleaning slaughterhouses in eight states in what it called a “corporate-wide failure” by one of the largest food sanitation companies in the country, Packers Sanitation Services Inc.Feb 17, 2023”
Children older than 13 can already work...do we really want to lower the working age and allow young children to work in dangerous environments such as restaurants, as this article argue would be "good for children." The real purpose of course is cheap labor, and to hell with the kids and their need for education, free play, and protection. Money conquers all is the ultimate argument for loosening child labor laws.
The drive through window of a fast food joint != "commercial kitchen". We have illegal spics for those jobs, we don't need no stinking kids.
But this is obviously some half-assed rationalization for keeping labor as cheap as possible.
When teens have to work to help the family make ends meet, then someone is stealing wealth from workers. And, stop with this BS that they learn skills. In our society, there are tons of other ways for teens to learn skills other than making Wall Street asswipes wealthier. That argument is one step from the idea that "abuse is good" because it "makes a man out of you." A society which preys upon is youth to make the 1% wealthier is a society which has lost its moral justification to exist. Read the Declaration of Independence, para 2.
"A society which preys upon is youth to make the 1% wealthier is a society which has lost its moral justification to exist. "
It's worse than that. Childhood is a unique time of learning and exploration. If a child doesn't start learning the piano by puberty, it will never become a top flight pianist in adulthood. Much the same with fluency in a foreign language or a gymnast etc. There's only one period in the life of a human when the brain and body is so plastic. That's childhood, including the teen years that Reason wants spent in drudgery doing jobs adults do everything they can to avoid.
Some cultures understand all this and go to great lengths to take advantage of the opportunities offered to young people. Not so in America where the highest values are compliant obedience to work place discipline.
There were no pianists, gymnasts or linguists until child labor laws were enacted a century ago. It is known.
Also you can't possibly learn more than one thing at a time, especially not if you exchange labor for money during the 1/4 of the year you spend out of school every year between the ages of 5 and 18.
You must have been worked like a fucking dog to have turned out as paint-chip-eating fucking retarded as you did.
"There were no pianists, gymnasts or linguists until child labor laws were enacted a century ago. "
There were. They didn't spend their formative years doing menial labor. Childhood is a time for exploration and learning. Not doing the jobs adults refuse to do.
"have to work" is not what we are talking about. Most American kids do not have to work for the money since their parents already do. The idea is to get suburban kids off their duffs and out in the world doing something where they have responsibility - to show up and follow orders. I know that responsibility is not popular among Progressives, but it is the bedrock of civilization, both in law and in moral behavior. The sooner kids learn that, the sooner they will become good citizens.
My Mom, and nine, would bake bread using flour from broen sacks her Dad brought home from work. She'dput it, unwrapped, onto the bare bottom of her little Radio Flyer wagon and head int town and sell the bread for a nickel a loaf on the streets. Wagon empty, walk back home that cash helped the family get by.
Dad grew up in a farm, was too skinny at 12 to help buck the hay, so his bigger brothers would have him drive the wagon and team for the haywagon. All day long. At fourteen he drove the schoolbus, at fifteen he got a real paying job over the summer driving a dump truck on a jobsite in another state. Commercial license? How ever heard of THOSE? that dump truck would require a few months in truck school now, and cost about five or six grand to get. At ten he and his year older brother decided to take apart the family's dead Model T Ford cause it had stopped running. No one told them to, they just lit into it. Had the engine out and apart, guessed which parts wanted replacing hopped on their bikes and rrode into town to the parts store. Guy said he'd have the parts in about a week. Came bck, bought them, went home and in a few days had that old T Model Ford running again. No book, no advice, no one looking iver their shoulder or telling them it couldn't be done. Family ran that car for another few years.
When I was 12 I helped build a hundred feet of six foot high concrete block wall. At fourteen I startd my own house painting contractor company. Worked weekends and over the summer. At sixteen I was apprenticed to a house builder to do a three room addition on a home. At 15 I got a part time job assembling bikes in a bike shop near us in town. Got all the used parts I needed for y own, free. Perk of the job. By friend and I would build probably six or so bikes each day after school.
Apropos of child sex work:
"Pure Invention: How Japan's Pop Culture Conquered the World"
https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=138330098
An interesting account of the Hello Kitty phenomenon, among other things.
Japan once was scandalized by middle school girls prostituting themselves so they could buy high end accessories from Louis Vuitton etc. The people behind Hello Kitty consciously marketed their products to counter the motivations for teens to 'go on the game.' The products, despite the cheapness of the materials, were well made, attractive and a lot cheaper than anything made by Louis Vuitton. They became a huge success around the globe, and middle school girls could enjoy cutting edge fashion without prostitution.
They became a huge success around the globe, and middle school girls could enjoy cutting edge fashion without prostitution.
So spending fewer yen on dolls allowed these girls to buy high end fashion? I call BS.
" I call BS."
Because you don't understand. Hello Kitty is not primarily dolls, but accessories like purses, backpacks, and so on. The same sort of stuff Louis Vuitton makes, only cheaper. Hello Kitty became fashionable among young girls. The urge to acquire Louis Vuitton was supplanted by the much more easily attainable Hello Kitty. This is all laid out in the book I linked to which you obviously haven't read. If reading a book is not your cup of cha, the internet will give you an idea of what Louis Vuitton and Hello Kitty are all about.
Hell yeah, Emma Camp. Nice feature! I appreciate your perspectives and this is #textbookCamp
She's totally gonna fuck you bro!
I mean, how much could the grizzled, drunken, used up peace of shot charge eve with ithout competition? Then throw in some desperate teens as competitors for those bus station blowjobs, and his price drops from $10 to what? $5? $3? Spare change?
Of course he’s upset. Maybe he can learn to code.
In my experience, family-owned small restaurant businesses are much less likely to be drug dens than a corporate chain restaurant is.
I've worked at several; I made more friends and more money at our little family taco bar, even with no base pay (tips only) because you have the leeway to hire high quality people and fire low quality ones much more easily. And much fewer problems, generally, although when there is drama it can get pretty bad because of the whole family thing.
Well, it's like hypnotizing chickens.
R Mac was making a joke because sarcasmic used to brag about how he would buy weed off the busboys at the restaurants he worked at when he was supposedly a professional gourmet chef. He also stated that he had never heard of a Cuban sandwich despite his extensive culinary training and professional experience because there are no hispanics in Maine. No fucking joke. He actually said that.
Maine has French-Canadians, though. {dos de givre}