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Facing Fauci's Fury: Q&A with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya

The Stanford professor and Great Barrington Declaration coauthor stands up to COVID-19 autocrats and disastrous lockdowns by following the science.

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On October 4, 2020, when COVID-19 was raging, American schools were mostly shuttered, and vaccines were believed to be years away, a team of top researchers at the world's most prestigious universities—including Stanford's Jay Bhattacharya, Harvard's Martin Kulldorff, and Oxford's Sunetra Gupta—published the Great Barrington Declaration, a controversial open letter challenging the official U.S. response of lockdowns and government control of ever-larger parts of the economy and everyday life.

Recognizing that COVID overwhelmingly affected elderly Americans and others with specific, identifiable health conditions, they called for a policy of "focused protection," in which the vulnerable would be kept safe and the rest of us, especially children and young adults, would be able to get on with our lives.

The response at the very highest levels of government was quick and draconian. Francis Collins, then the director of the National Institutes of Health, wrote a private email to presidential chief medical adviser Anthony Fauci, which was later obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request, denouncing Bhattacharya, Kulldorff, and Gupta as "fringe epidemiologists" who deserved to be the subject of a media "takedown."

"Big tech outlets like Facebook and Google followed suit, suppressing our ideas, falsely deeming them 'misinformation,' says Bhattacharya, a professor of medicine at Stanford who also holds a Ph.D. in economics. "I started getting calls from reporters asking me why I wanted to 'let the virus rip,' when I had proposed nothing of the sort. I was the target of racist attacks and death threats."

I sat down with Bhattacharya to talk about what it was like to be at the very center of an official effort to suppress heterodox thinking about the pandemic, why he believes he and his Great Barrington Declaration co-authors have been vindicated, and whether the public health establishment can ever recover from ongoing revelations of incompetence, malfeasance, and politically motivated decision-making. He also discusses how the centralization of science funding encourages dangerous groupthink, why he believes in mRNA vaccines but remains staunchly anti-mandate, and why he stopped wearing masks a long time ago.

Narrated by Nick Gillespie; edited by Adam Czarnecki; intro by John Osterhoudt; additional graphics by Lex Villena and Isaac Reese

Photo: CNP/AdMedia/Newscom; gbdeclaration.org; Stefani Reynolds - Pool via CNP/MEGA/Newscom; CNP/AdMedia/SIPA/Newscom

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  1. It's funny because faucinis a half with not even worthy enough to carry Dr Jay's jock

    1. And with the name Dr Jay I'm sure he's a dynomite basketball player

      1. just like I'm the King on the microphone so is Dr. J and Moses Malone

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  2. More like this, less on how wonderful Kenny G or some equally shit pop music is.

  3. Safe to stick your head above the parapet I see.

  4. "...the Great Barrington Declaration, a controversial open letter challenging the official U.S. response of lockdowns and government control of ever-larger parts of the economy and everyday life."

    We are just beginning to pay the costs of allowing tin-pot-dictator wannabes to 'plan' our economy. We'll be paying for that mistake for a long time to come.
    Yeah, I know it was only 'part' of the economy, which left the remainder without the ability to take care of their business; who could predict which side of the bed Newsom would get up on and when he'd close down the restaurants AGAIN?

    1. The GBD was only 'controversial' because Fauci and the rest of the clown show made a concerted effort to denounce it.

      Sort of how like Republicans are 'divisive' for not going along with Democrats.

      1. Yes, like how only ONE Senator is holding up legislation, or any of a hundred other very obvious political ploys get played by the media completely unquestioningly anymore.

        And for Sevo, the Newsome restaurant thing is just fine because the only restaurants that were closing because in my town were the small one restaurant or one bar companies owned by a local guy. The chain restaurants all did just fine in the end.

      2. We will be paying heavy prices for these ridiculously confusing, changing and conflicting "mandates" for at least one or two generations. Our children got the shit scared out of them like my generation did during the Cuban missile crisis. Many folks are afraid to take off their masks and start living free. All and all this "crisis" has been a godsend to the Marxist/Leninists whose Bible is Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals.

  5. Jay Bhattacharya, Martin Kulldorff, Sunetra Gupta, their Great Barrington Declaration, and Scott Atlas are true scientific and public health heroes.

    In sharp contrast, Fauci, Birx, Redman, Walensky and other DHHS officials (who lied about covid's origin, and imposed unscientific and disastrous lockdowns, mask and vaccine mandates) should be indicted for public health malpractice, locked down in federal prison for a decade, and forced to wear a mask daily for the rest of their lives.

    1. and forced to wear a mask daily for the rest of their lives.

      A cloth mask.

      1. A vinyl mask.

  6. Fauci deserves a medal. This medal, to be exact.

    1. Fauci did a lot of good for AIDS patients. He set the proper tone by doing an about face when ACTUP members questioned his stance, shoed up at his clinic lab, he met with them, listened, and changed course. He should have done likewise in the COVID scenario.

  7. Now do those healing crystal guys.

    1. I think you’re the one who wants to do guys.

    2. Pretty sure healing crystals, chakras, acupuncture, telepathy, clairvoyance, astrology, anti-GMO, CRT, naturopathy, aromatherapy, Panchagavya, kinesiology, phrenology, Reiki, primal therapy, Ayurveda, correactology, cryonics, humorism, iridology, colon cleansing, electromagnetic hypersensitivity, energy medicine, homeopathy, lunar effect, Lysenkoism, magnets, palmistry, Feng shui and Trans ideology are all big (D) pathologies, Joe.

  8. As noted early and correctly, the Puny Barrignton Whimper is wrong because you cannot establish herd immunity when those who catch Covid have immunity that peters out in about 6 months, may not be transferable to different variants, and as many as 29% of them never develope anti-bodies. Further, the nature of long covid - about 20% of those who catch Covid return to their doc later with symptoms affecting the heart, lungs, and brain, you know the minor organs - means the risk of catching it is even greater than.

    These guys have been shot down by every leading medical research group and institution on earth and Stanfor should fire his ass if he isn't tenured.

    1. noted early and correctly, the Puny Barrignton Whimper is wrong because you cannot establish herd immunity when those who catch Covid have immunity that peters out in about 6 months, may not be transferable to different variants, and as many as 29% of them never develope anti-bodies.

      Long term immunity, conferred by COVID vaccines and exposure to the virus, develops via B cells (antibodies) and T cells (long term memory). The CDC, NIH, FDA, Legacy media, have focuses on antibodies when it is T cells that allows those exposed to overcome the mild to severe illness. Not antibodies.

      Further, the nature of long covid - about 20% of those who catch Covid return to their doc later with symptoms affecting the heart, lungs, and brain, you know the minor organs - means the risk of catching it is even greater than.

      There are not objective diagnostics to “measure” LTC. Few of the patients at our university clinic have reported such symptoms, nothing close to 20% returning back.

      These guys have been shot down by every leading medical research group and institution on earth and Stanfor should fire his ass if he isn't tenured.

      Medicine is all about challenging dominant paradigms when they fail or creating paradigms where none exist. There were no treatment paradigms when this all evolved. The harm that the CDC, NIH, FDA inflicted on the USA is indeed catastrophic, and this from an illness with an IFR of 0.05%.

      Stop selling panic porn.

      1. "...Puny Barrignton Whimper..."

        Joe Asshole makes a funny!

      2. 1 million dead buddy and maybe 1/3 of them needlessly because they listened to the anti-vaxx idiocy promoted by many here. For the reasons I stated above. herd immunity by exposure was not going to happen and gladly most did not follow these 3 fools, only 1 of whom is an epidemiologist.

        1. PS We don't know what long covid will bring yet .

          "Researchers who study long COVID, which has been estimated to afflict about 14 to 30 percent of people infected with the coronavirus, say that because Omicron appeared so recently, they can make only educated guesses about its long-term impact. But the scientists note there are reasons to be both cautiously optimistic and very concerned."

          https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/long-haul-covid-cases-could-spike-after-latest-wave/

          Are you feeling lucky, punk?

          1. What’s it like living in constant fear of everything?

            Ever tempted to end it all?

          2. "But the scientists note there are reasons to be both cautiously optimistic and very concerned."

            Oh no! Not optimistic or concerned exactly like everything else in life!
            PANIC, PANIC, BE FRIGHTENED EVERYONE!

            It's absolutely fucking nothing you fearmongering stooge.

          3. "Are you feeling lucky, punk?"

            Are you feeling stupid, fuckface? You are.
            Stuff it up your ass so your head has some company.

        2. "1 million dead buddy and maybe 1/3 of them needlessly..."

          Oh, look! Joe Asshole makes up a number and then adds a "maybe".!
          Fuck off and die, steaming pile of lefty shit.

        3. I guess you didn’t read the GBD. All 3 main authors are epidemiologists:

          Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.

          Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.

          Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.

          Plus it’s been co-signed by nearly 1,000,000 others. And it’s the strategy employed by Sweden led by Anders Tegnell Which proved equally effective to lockdowns without the massive economic or Social disruptions experienced in the US and other western countries.

          You are not only wildly wrong about the GBD but also the numbers you’re citing and your claims about long covid. I suggest that you find other sources of data to consider.

      3. What a lying fucking asshole. An IFR of 0.05%? That equals 175,000 deaths - over the last two years - assuming every single person in the US contracted COVID before they got vaccinated.

        The reason people still listen to an authoritarian like Fauci is because - what's the alternative when moron and assholes like you are still spewing your manure. Still.

        1. You remember the 5.5% WITH Covid, JSlave? That's it.

          1. The imperial college estimated IFR was 0.9% - which was posited as the worst case scenario
            Course 3 million dead is a fuckload scarier than 0.9%.
            So hey just lie about everything.

            1. CDC statistic there, JSlave.

              1. World Health Organization:

                In people younger than 70 years, infection fatality rates ranged from 0.00% to 0.31% with crude and corrected medians of 0.05%.

                Conclusion:

                The infection fatality rate of COVID-19 can vary substantially across different locations and this may reflect differences in population age structure and case-mix of infected and deceased patients and other factors. The inferred infection fatality rates tended to be much lower than estimates made earlier in the pandemic.

                Bull World Health Organ. 2021 Jan 1; 99(1): 19–33F.
                Published online 2020 Oct 14. doi: 10.2471/BLT.20.265892

                Let the dead bury the dead. The Panic Porn purveyors cant get enough off of beating their shtick. Let them.

                1. And that was early Covid, which was much more severe than recent strains. lol

        2. "What a lying fucking asshole..."

          You've made a career of it, you lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. You just never learn, or admit mistakes, do you?

      What a joke.

  9. Are we sure we can't blame this on a far right candidate like yesterday's article?

    1. Nah, but Joe Asshole will blame Trump

    2. What does “far right” even mean if Joe Rogan counts as one of them?

      1. Just like Democracy now means a government run by Democrats, you're an extremist threat if you're not left of Mao.

  10. "On October 4, 2020, when COVID-19 was raging, American schools were mostly shuttered, and vaccines were believed to be years away, . . ."

    In October of 2020, we had been talking about vaccine developments for months, and it was predicted that vaccines would be available to everyone by April 2021. Here's a Reason Article from September:

    https://reason.com/2020/09/25/deregulate-pharmacists-now-to-increase-covid-19-vaccine-uptake/

    1. That is correct Minadin. Most estimates were for the spring of 2021

      1. Thank goodness we skipped the safety checks and just took manufacturer data at face value.

  11. So after two years of screeching about testing and jabs Reason finally discovers Barrington. Typical.

    1. What, do you expect them to read the comments?

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