No Malarkey: Even Democrats Think Biden Is Too Old
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In this week's The Reason Roundtable, editors Matt Welch, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and Peter Suderman assess President Joe Biden's tanking poll numbers and parse the continuation of seething protests against the Israel-Hamas war.
1:04: New polls are bad news for Joe Biden.
15:09: Protests surge against Israel-Hamas war.
36:54: Weekly Listener Question
44:11: An executive order attempts to regulate artificial intelligence tech.
49:37: This week's cultural recommendations
Mentioned in this podcast:
"Are We Really Doing a Trump vs. Biden Rematch?" by Steven Greenhut
"Both Biden and Trump Are Bad Candidates," by John Stossel
"Stop Calling Hillary Old," by Nick Gillespie
"Third Party Candidates Shouldn't Get Their Hopes Up," by Andy Craig
"RFK Jr. Dumps Democrats, Libertarian Party Blasts RFK Jr.'s Stance on Israel," by Robby Soave
"The Real Worry Behind the Unhinged Freakout Over No Labels," by Matt Welch
"Joe Biden More Vulnerable in 2024 Primary Than Donald Trump Ever Was in 2020," by Matt Welch
"The Very Strange New Respect for Authoritarian Democrat Robert F. Kennedy Jr.," by Matt Welch
"Blinken's Mission, Impossible," by Robby Soave
"Yascha Mounk: Avoiding the Identity Trap," by Nick Gillespie with Yascha Mounk
"Far-Left Support for Hamas is not an Aberration," by Ilya Somin
"Blaming Hamas Shouldn't Mean Ignoring the Palestinians' Plight," by Bonnie Kristian
"Is Restricting Pro-Israel-as-Jewish-Democracy Speech National Origin/Ethnicity Discrimination or Harassment?" by Eugene Volokh
"Don't Blame the Maine Shootings on 'Woefully Weak' Gun Laws," by Jacob Sullum
"Biden Issues 'A.I. Red Tape Wishlist,'" by Ronald Bailey
"Priscilla Is an Elvis Movie That Isn't About Elvis," by Peter Suderman
"Mitt Romney, Like So Many NeverTrumpers, Was Hobbled by His Own Grubby Political Ambitions," by Matt Welch
"Consultant in Chief," by Peter Suderman
"The Appeal of the Underdog," by Joseph A. Vandello, Nadav P. Goldschmied, and David A. R. Richards, in Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin
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Fuck Joe Biden
Fuck Joe Biden.
Fuck Joe Biden
It’s not his age, it’s the brain damage that came with.
It is mostly his terrible policies and execution of powers for me.
Bullshit. It's because he has a (D) behind his name.
His immigration policies are nearly identical to Trump's yet you accuse him of "open borders" because that is the narrative Republicans use to attack him.
His trade policies are nearly identical to Trump's yet you won't give him credit for that and you attack him for that.
I oppose both Trump's and Biden's immigration policies and trade policies. You support both but refuse to say so.
If his policies are so similar, why are the results so different?
This is just Jeffie trying to be clever. He’s not very good at it.
But what do you want for 50 cents?
To be fair he's still trying to argue Democrat talking-points unlike Buttplug who's resorted to basically trolling now.
Twenty-five centing maybe.
Be specific in your question
You claim above the following:
a) their immigration policies are nearly identical.
b) their trade policies are nearly identical.
Do you believe that they've performed similarly in those policy areas? If so, how so and by what metric(s)? If not, why not?
What a racist question! Don't you know that equality is a mathematical operation and all mathematics is racist?
What a policy is, and how it performs, are two very different things.
The end of the declared COVID pandemic had a huge impact on immigration, for example.
I mean, if you are going to blame Biden for removing Title 42, then that is not a fair criticism IMO. Any president in that situation would have done the same, because the pandemic was declared over and it was the correct thing to do regardless of what the effect on immigration would have been.
But, contrary to popular belief, Biden has not thrown the borders wide open. There is still a Border Patrol that is still catching illegal immigrants sneaking across the border.
The only major change is that the Remain In Mexico policy is gone. Which IMO is GOOD because IMO the Remain in Mexico policy violated treaty.
What a policy is, and how it performs, are two very different things.
What a dodge this ended up being.
Not a dodge, it is actually true, and fundamental to libertarian critique of, say, the welfare state - welfare policy is designed in one way, but the RESULTS of the policy tell a much different story, don't they?
Not at all.
Libertarians oppose welfare, period.
At what point did Trump Border Control remove razor wire to allow migrants to cross? At what point did Trump admin sue Texas for placing border control devices? Why, during his first days in office, did Biden sign an executive order to stop all on-going construction projects and redirect funding away from border wall construction. Why did Biden almost immediately seek to end Trumps "remain in Mexico" policy, then go all the way to SCOTUS to keep it ended? Why did Biden issue a moratorium on deportations (is that something Trump would do)?
Biden, Reagan and Bush applauded when Texas Representative James C. Wright introduced HR 5484, “a bill to strengthen federal efforts to encourage foreign cooperation in eradicating illicit drug crops and in halting international drug traffic, to improve enforcement of federal drug laws and enhance interdiction of illicit drug shipments, to provide strong federal leadership in establishing effective drug abuse prevention and education programs... and for other purposes.” Soon all of Lartin America was collapsing into the hyperinflation that hit Germany after the Versailles treaty empowered League of Nations drug prohibitionism. Who'd a thunk refugees would come pouring in?
Noble intentions. Jeffy delusionally believes in the better nature of (D)s.
Jeff openly supports benevolent authoritarianism.
Lie.
Sure you do Fatfuck.
"Jeffy delusionally believes in the better nature of (D)s."
What Jeff posts and what he actually believes are very different things. What part of "Lying Jeffy" don't you get?
Sure you do, that’s why you’ve been here everyday the last three years calling anyone who supports Biden’s policies a racist xenophobe (like you did the previous 4).
Oh wait…
Who here supports Biden's policies?
The only reason the Trump-humpers around here don't support Biden's immigration policies are: (1) he's a Democrat who defeated Trump in a "stolen election", and (2) he's not mean enough to the immigrants.
You certainly defend the administration on a regular basis and exclusively attack republicans.
Now wait justa gol-darned minnit there! Whutabout "Biden doesn't do enough to shove them uppity bitches back into Comstock slavery by banning all birth control"? Whutabout theyat, huh? huh? The Republican platform calls for jailing all blacks, latinos, hippies and furriners for twigs and seeds, and steamrolling state legalizations back into the Stone Age. Kin yew guess what new plank the Mises Caucasians have in store for the all-white, all-male bigot-friendly LP?
The (D) after his name comes with a myriad of malignant, unconstitutional, Marxist and oppressive policies you fat fucking piece of pedophile adjacent shit.
Now GTFO and leave the humans to talk.
No his age isn’t necessarily the issue, but his very evident lack of capacity is. As is often seen on the world stage.
sarcasmic 12 months ago
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What about the blind hatred for Biden in these comments? Seems like a majority of the people here start the day with the “Fuck Joe Biden” prayer. Why is that warranted while anyone who says “Boo” about Trump is accused of Trump Derangement Syndrome?
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I think a lot of it is the news. Put on FOX and they’ll tell you that Trump can’t do anything wrong while Biden can’t do anything right. Put on MSNBC and they’ll tell you that Biden can’t do anything wrong while Trump can’t do anything right. The truth has to be somewhere in between. Thing is, very few people care. Most just want someone to worship and someone to hate.
Sarcasmic is right here. It is blind reflexive hatred of anyone outside of the right-wing tribe. Look at the news articles that are commonly cited here. They are almost always from right-wing sites. They slant the news and give a distorted view of the world. And that is what their readers WANT, and that is what their readers GET, day in and day out. Biden is always wrong, Democrats are always wrong, everyone outside of the right-wing tribe is always wrong.
Just yesterday, Agamamnon tried to convince me that Republicans were extremely reasonable and moderate people when it came to abortion for years and years and years, UNTIL those crazy deranged Democrats started demanding abortion on demand until birth, and ONLY THEN did those Republicans start demanding extreme abortion restrictions. So in this narrative, all of the 'vexatious government rules' that red states have passed on abortion recently are all the Democrats' fault for going so overboard in their pro-abortion zealotry. This absurd narrative of course ignores 50 years of pro-life activism and pro-life litmus tests that Republicans have engaged in ever since Roe v. Wade was decided to gradually enforce a pro-life orthodoxy within the party up until this day. Oh no no no, they were the MODERATE and REASONABLE ones, and it was the Democrats who were the UNREASONABLE and INSANE zealots on the matter. Such an ahistorical gaslighting narrative can only come about from demagogues on partisan media pushing purposeful lies to further an agenda. And that is what these partisan media outlets do.
These partisan media outlets that people like Jesse and ML and others around here like to cite spend time and effort coming up with narratives to try to frame everything as the fault of the other tribe even when they know it is not true. They do this because they want to retain their audience of loyal tribalists and they won't do that if the media outlets were to tell the truth and not make the tribe the heroes of the story and the other tribe the villains of the story.
I am starting to believe that Trump doesn't really believe the 2020 election was stolen, that he knows he really did legitimately lose the election, but he continues to say in public that the election was stolen because that's how he can keep his tribe together. That is now a part of their collective tribal identity - a shared belief that they are all victims of a massive fraud perpetrated by the villainous other tribe. He will be the heroic figure who will return and smite his enemies and ultimately claim the victory that is rightfully his. That is the epic story that he wants his tribe to believe and that is one strong unifying story that holds his tribe together. THAT is why he does it.
I am starting to believe that Trump doesn’t really believe the 2020 election was stolen
Your faith based belief in your cynicism is hilariously ironic.
Lol. You really do think like a radical individualist, don’t you?
Damn.
He’s an obedient bolshie.
Right after the 1972 LP plank became Roe, BOTH the Prohibition Party and the Grabbers-Of-Pussy demanded a new Prohibition amendment to force women to reproduce by involuntary servitude. This began in 1976, steamrolled the Equal Rights Amendment and continues to this day as the rallying cry amid burning crosses, swastikas and the red caps that made America Gag Again. Canada on the other hand repealed ALL laws forcing women to reproduce.
Oh good. Jeff came to sarcs rescue. So I'll add Jeff's libertarian takes i guess. Trespassing being capital murder but only if you're a conservative.
chemjeff radical individualist 3 years ago
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What is there to talk about?
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From a libertarian perspective, Ashli Babbett was trespassing, and the officers were totally justified to shoot trespassers. Again from a libertarian perspective, the officers would have been justified in shooting every single trespasser. That would not have been wise or prudent, of course.
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They were all trespassers trying to be where they weren’t supposed to be.
The true libertarians are the oracles of the day.
Did Jeff take a test?
He wrote his own test and him and sarc scored 150%
Question 1: if there is a bear in a trunk how can you derail a conversation about rights.
He got a perfect score on that one.
Who was the fucking dipshit that tried to use the “bear in a trunk” analogy?
https://reason.com/podcast/2021/10/25/freedom-responsibility-and-coronavirus-policy/#comment-9176512
=)
LOL
It is so fucking stupid it is as if Biden and Fetterman worked on that as a duet. Priceless.
An instant classic.
He has tried to defend it multiple times too. It is hilarious.
jeffetterman
Question 1: Because there is exactly one paragraph in Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations in which Adam Smith discusses why tariffs might be good, doesn't that mean that the entire field of libertarian free market economics is wrong, and that every libertarian everywhere should now embrace tariffs like what Trump wants to do?
Tariffs supported the federal government for nearly 100 years.
How are they, as essentially a user fee, less preferable to income taxes?
This is mocking Jesse, who loves to pull out one single paragraph of The Wealth of Nations - probably the only paragraph he's read - that speaks favorably of tariffs, to try to prove to everyone why 200 years of free trade economics is wrong and Trump is right when it comes to tariffs. He's an idiot Trump mouthpiece.
You ignorant Humphrey Hippo Fatfuck piece of shit. You are hardly in a position to impugn the eduction of others. Considering what a worthless, weak minded bolshie you truly are.
Smith was a colonial mercantilist monarchist, the thing Karl Marx fanboys renamed "capitalist" in the 1850s, when "Red Republican" popped up in Harriet Beecher Stowe novels.
Question 2: Obviously libertarianism supports pedophilia, but please give the libertarian argument as to why the fact that the book Snow White exists proves teachers have the liberty to teach your 6 year old about anal sex without informing the parents knowing.
Another perfect score. And bonus points for adding from his own pedo collection.
Question 2: Because there are costs associated with immigration, doesn't that mean that there should be a border wall? Did I mention there are costs associated with immigration? Lots and lots of costs. Oh, tremendous costs. Outrageous costs. Out-of-this-world costs. That means we need a wall. A big beautiful wall. Therefore libertarians should support a border wall just like what Trump wants. Right?
Joe is building a wall.
Yes he is. Which one of our right-wing colleagues around here, who claim to oppose Biden because of "policies", will give Biden credit for continuing the same wall-building policy that they very enthusiastically supported under Trump? Hmm?
And for the record, both Trump and Biden are wrong for building a stupid wall.
No, they’re not. ‘Hmm’?
You pedantic pedophilic piece of piss.
A deterrent wall is seen a more humane than simply shooting the people crossing the border illegally.
Question 3: Discuss how government welfare is good since individuals don't donate enough to your preferred causes and you'll get choices back once you make the correct choices.
Another one he nailed.
Question 3: Is trespassing a form of violence - since it is an infringement of property rights - and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? Or is trespassing a harmless nonviolent act that should not be prosecuted and in fact is a form of protected political speech when it is part of a political protest?
The answer is: Yes/No if it is a BLM riot, and No/Yes if it is a Jan. 6 peaceful parade.
Clearly trespassing is a crime that requires shooting perpetrators in the face, so they get theirs just like that Babbit chick.
Question 4: trick question bitch. 2+2=5 not 4.
Question 4: To be a well-informed citizen in modern society, which websites should I read?
A. Breitbart
B. The Federalist
C. Just The News
D. Conservative Treehouse
E. BidenSucksCock.com
F. All Of The Above
"Math workbook says its racist to ask students to get the right answer"
Hey Jesse, why don't you tell us your position on free trade and tariffs. What, you're in favor of tariffs? Huh.
Why don't you tell us your position on immigration. Wait, you're in favor of restrictive immigration policies? Huh.
Why, it's as if you are just another bog-standard Republican.
Why don’t you tell us your position is on molesting children Jeffie?
That was an epic, emotional dump by someone that normally only engages in serious discussions. I recall that post inspired more passion with the FJB crowd here (aka libertarians) sharing their displeasure with his abysmal governance.
I think that coincided with the Act Blue directive attempting to push the “boaf sidez” narrative.
LOL the "FJB" crowd is not "libertarian" for the most part, they are right-wing tribalists. Libertarians will put liberty front and center, not left-wing or right-wing. It's right there in the name.
Case in point: Back in the dark days of 2020, when most of the country was on lockdown due to COVID, how many of you would begin the day with chants of "Fuck Donald Trump"? Hmm? Oh wait, none of you. Even though, according to many of you, those lockdowns represented the single biggest usurpation of liberty in living memory.
Is there anything that has transpired since, that have been worse from a libertarian perspective, than those lockdowns? The ones that Trump presided over?
"Oh but Trump didn't order those lockdowns, state governors did! Stop blaming Trump for things he didn't do!" You're right, Trump didn't order them, but I don't see any of you offering exculpatory comments for anything Biden is accused of doing. Trump could have done more to stop them but he didn't.
You claim you say FJB because of Biden's policies, but that is a lie. You say it because you hate Democrats and you are a right-wing tribalist, and that is your way to express tribal solidarity. You will excuse FAR worse from your own tribe, as we have seen.
Libertarians are saying Fuck Joe Biden because he is a horrible, big government, corrupt, child groping, career politician no matter how much pointing and sputtering you and those others trying to carry his water do.
I mean he only has 30+ years of policy to look at. All of them anti liberty. How can any libertarian not love the lil rascal.
And how many times did you say "Fuck Donald Trump"...?
Poor baby.
You’re an irrelevant authority, a rather numb one at that.
Trump didn’t intimate using F15s and nuclear weapons on Americans. Biden did.
Trump isn’t leading the funding of a corrupt Bandera regime in Kiev trying to win some warboner ego proxy war. Biden is.
Trump did vote to invade Afghanistan. Biden did.
Trump didn’t vote to invade Iraq. Biden did.
Fuck Joe Biden
Trump didn't use federal agencies to go after his political opponents, Biden did.
Trump didn't sign an EO to give away 500B, lose at the USSC, then create a new EO to keep giving it away, Biden did.
Trump didn't go on television to attack half of Americans, Biden did.
Trump didn't spy on journalists, Obama and Biden did.
Trump didn't mandate shots through federal rule making, Biden did.
This could go on a while.
This is why I love the anniversary of watergate so much.
I get to watch people pretend they are scandalized that the president spyed on a presidential campaign.
But Trump DID do a LOT of things which were awful, and you said nothing.
Why is that, Jesse? Hmm?
Hey I know, it's because you are a Republican who supports those things and don't really think they are awful. It's because you complain about Biden not because you merely oppose his policies, but because you are here to promote the Republican tribe. You're a right-wing shill nothing more.
Can you actually cite examples of the those terrible things Fatfuck?
Hmm?
Still waiting for those examples, you fat bitch.
Trump exploded the national debt to $27.7 trillion when he left office. Trump alone was responsible for 40% of the TOTAL national debt.
Trump sent cruise missiles to strike Syria.
Trump vetoed bills that would have ended the US's involvement in the Saudi war in Yemen, and he sent US troops and fighter jets to Saudi Arabia.
Trump initiated, or at the very least escalated, a trade war with China that weakened our economy and the cause of free trade.
Trump renegotiated NAFTA that made it WORSE when it came to free trade, with more union-friendly protections and deals.
Trump created a fake declaration of a national emergency to justify spending military money to build a useless wall at the border.
Trump based his entire campaign on xenophobic racist scapegoating of foreigners to sow division and fear.
And - most importantly - Trump presided over the single most destructive and widespread usurpations of liberty in the past 100 years, the COVID lockdowns.
And you said NOTHING.
This isn't support for Biden. You are right that Biden deserves criticism for those things that you mention (although I disagree with how you characterize the war in Ukraine). But somehow you cannot find it within you to offer even a tiny bit of criticism for the man who has his own list of criticisms, but arguably has one on that list that far surpasses anything that Biden presided over.
Trump presided over the single most destructive and widespread usurpations of liberty in the past 100 years, the COVID lockdowns.
Those were state issues, and you supported them.
Sorry, you all cheered it on when DeSantis issued a "freedom mandate" against the wishes of local authorities when it came to mask mandates in that state. So spare me your faux deference to federalism. And for the umpteenth time I never supported government mask mandates.
And by the way, why are so many people making excuses for Trump? Hmm? Why spend the effort to defend him? He's a douchebag politician.
Could it be because... you've been a Republican Trump-defender all along?
Jeff neither understands nor supports federalism. He again wants a globalist benevolent dictator.
He again wants a globalist benevolent dictator.
That's a lie, from Jesse the champion of liars
No Fatfuck, Jesse is spot on. You’re a liar, and now angry you’re being called out on your lies.
You should leave and never come back. There is no l,ac e for you here. Except as an object of scorn, ridicule, derision and blatant disrespect. You are also not worthy of civility, as you are an inveterate sea lion, in addition to your pathological dishonesty.
I never experienced a lockdown. I do recall blue cities and states doing that. I also recall how some of the (D) politicians that supported them also violated them (mayors of DC and San Fran come to mind). Nancy Pelosi (D) as well.
Oh, so you didn't experience a lockdown. Well good for you. LOTS of people did though.
And you didn't explain yourself. Why didn't we hear chants of FUCK DONALD TRUMP from you when he was doing all of his awful things? Hmm?
Never mind, we know the answer: because you're a Republican Trump supporter
Jeff, Trump didn’t order the lockdowns. They were largely due to Democratic party member politicians doing that. Perhaps people that experienced and didn’t like lockdowns should change their politicians.
Interestingly, despite your multiple weak efforts, the article is about Biden (D). The libertarian comments expand on how bad Biden (D) is. Libertarians know how awful of an executive Biden (D) is. How unlibertarian Biden (D) is. Libertarians may respond with Fuck Joe Biden no matter how many times the Act Blue crowd try to boaf sidez it.
Yes, Chumby, we know. Trump didn't order the lockdowns, you've offered excuses for all the stuff Trump did do, and you keep repeating Fuck Joe Biden. It's clear why you keep saying Fuck Joe Biden. It's not because you are merely opposed to Biden's policies.
Just above you were assigning the lockdowns to Trump. You ascribed the lockdowns as the single most destructive and widespread usurpations of liberty in the past 100 years. Trump didn’t do those. That was largely from a particular political party that is far from libertarian.
I recall when Biden (D) voted to invade Afghanistan. Also recall when Biden (D) was assistant manager overseeing that mistake for eight years. When Trump negotiated an exit, Biden (D) later unilaterally extended that deadline breaking the agreement in place. As CiC, Biden (D) oversaw the drone strike murder of eight kids and an aid worker there.
Fuck Joe Biden
Just above you were assigning the lockdowns to Trump.
He PRESIDED over the lockdowns. This is undeniably true. He did not create them, no. He bears some limited responsibility for them, by enabling Fauci/Brix/CDC, and by not doing more to stop them. But no, he didn't create them himself, and no one here has claimed that he has.
By way of comparison, Biden has PRESIDED over a period of unusually high inflation. This also is undeniably true. He is not solely responsible for it, and he does bear some limited responsibility for it, but that has not stopped you nor your fellow right-wingers around here from criticizing him endlessly for it.
Biden DOES deserve criticism for his role in causing inflation, absolutely. And Trump DOES deserve criticism for his role in enabling the COVID lockdowns.
The fact that you will bash Biden all day long while generate excuse after excuse for Trump tells us all we need to know about where your sympathies really lie. You're just another right-wing mouthpiece along with half of the other commenters here.
You ascribed the lockdowns as the single most destructive and widespread usurpations of liberty in the past 100 years. Trump didn’t do those. That was largely from a particular political party that is far from libertarian.
News flash: all but one governor issued COVID-related restrictions in the state. South Dakota was the only one that didn't. That means both red state and blue state governors.
Democrats presided over the lockdowns because they imposed them. For folks that disagreed with lockdowns, they should never vote for Democrats again. Thanks for helping to point out that Democrats own the lockdowns.
The debt talking point is so fucking tired. Biden shares as much blame as Trump for exploding it (read none) seeing as how the HOUSE controls the purse strings.
The President AND Congress share responsibility for all legislation passed (unless it was legislation passed overriding the president's veto).
So yes, Trump absolutely deserves blame for his share of exploding the national debt, and Biden absolutely deserves blame for his share of exploding the national debt.
If Trump vetoed an obviously veto proof bill you would be the first one here attacking him for it. So fuck off with your bullshit.
We all know better.
Trump had veto proof budgets presented for his signature. He could have vetoed them, but it would have been used against him by your fellow collaborators in state media. With you puking up democrat talking points (as you frequently do here).
Trump could have done more
How dare he let people decide how best to handle COVID.
Personal choice is not a liberty if someone makes the wrong choice. Jeff truly believes this and has used the belief to justify the actions of the left multiple times.
As Streep's character relates in that dystopian future: "When people have the freedom to choose, they choose wrong. Every single time."
Which is what the self-appointed elites use to justify their authoritarian controls, every single time.
Hey, remember when DeSantis usurped local authority and forced local businesses to stop requiring masks to enter their establishments? And you all cheered it on as a "win for freedom" even though the rest of us pointed out that his actions represented an infringement of the property rights of the establishment owners? Yeah, we all remember. So don't give me this "let people decide" bullshit. Your team is quite comfortable with top-down orders to "mandate freedom".
Hey, remember when DeSantis usurped local authority and forced local businesses to stop requiring masks to enter their establishments?
I sure do, but evidently it didn't occur to you that the highest level of general policing powers is at the state level.
This means that unlike your bitching, it was always within governors authority (if so granted) to oppose or enforce masking.
Subsidiarity did not stand in your way when it was DeSantis issuing “freedom mandates”, so why are you so willing to make excuses for Trump?
You are right that the powers of a president are different than those of a governor. But the president is not powerless. Why do you let him off the hook so easily?
It’s because you were always in his camp in the first place. You make excuses for him because you are one of his mouthpieces.
Why do you let him off the hook so easily?
Other than jailing/firing Fauci and Brix, what the fuck else did you want him to do?
Order the National Guard to end the lockdowns?
That would be about the last resort option, I would imagine.
Before it gets to that point, how about, say, filing some lawsuits?
Telling Congress to write into the CARES ACT legislation to make it conditional on no lockdowns?
Actually going on TV and telling governors, don't do lockdowns?
He could have done more than what he did, which was nothing. You let him off the hook for doing nothing.
Before it gets to that point, how about, say, filing some lawsuits?
Against who? Big Pharma? Congress? Fauci? China?
Telling Congress to write into the CARES ACT legislation to make it conditional on no lockdowns?
Actually going on TV and telling governors, don’t do lockdowns
Bully pulpit Ahoy! I'll remember this the next time you complain about demagoguery.
Against who?
The governors issuing lockdowns.
Telling Congress to write into the CARES ACT legislation to make it conditional on no lockdowns?
That's not "bully pulpit", that is part of the president's role of negotiating with Congress to pass legislation, you dimwit.
That’s not “bully pulpit”, that is part of the president’s role of negotiating with Congress to pass legislation, you dimwit.
Cooperating branches! I'll remember this the next time you complain about single-party governance.
Individual liberty is frightening to jeff. He prefers to continue to push single policy through corporatism even if influenced by government. He was very angry when governors elevated freedom to individuals. When the fed government tried to force cruises to require masks, DeSantis simply said no cruise can force mask mandates.
The most hilarious part is jeff supports forcing everyone to comply as the fascist tact instead if allowing individuals to choose what they want to do. No law or governor ever said you couldn't mask. You just couldn't force others to do so.
Jeff does not believe in freedom. Full stop.
A bear locked in a trunk doesn’t have freedom so neither should you.
Ironically, Jesse has a rather communist view of liberty. Like the communists, Jesse claims to believe that individuals possess liberty. But, also like the communists, when those individuals come together to form private associations, in the form of businesses, or corporations, or even institutions, then Jesse becomes suspicious and wants to start to take away their liberties. So what Jesse describes as "governors elevat[ing] freedom to individuals", what he means is governors using state power to force individuals to violate the property rights of the groups of individuals who own businesses and who may require that people on their property wear masks. Because Jesse does not think that property rights deserve as great of consideration as individual liberties. Just like the communists - he wants to take away property rights in the name of individual freedom. Jesse is a walking talking breathing example of the horseshoe theory of politics.
Libertarians rightly believe that there is no distinction between individual liberty and property rights - they are one and the same. For the state to deprive a property owner of his/her property rights *IS* a deprivation of that owner's individual liberty, full stop, in principle no different than for the state to mandate that property owner to wear a mask.
Jesse doesn't see it this way. He places property rights as inferior to individual liberty. Just like the communists.
Trump didn’t order those lockdowns, you miserable fuck.
We live in a federal system in case you forgot.
Mmmm taste the collectivism.
Never change, Jeff.
Could you BE any more radically individualist?
Too soon?
I see what you did there.
Media has signaled it is okay for their true defenders to mildly criticize him now. But back then it was verboten.
"...The truth has to be somewhere in between..."
No, it doesn't, TDS-addled shitpile. Trump was the best POTUS we've had for the last 100 years, while Biden isn't fit to lick his jockstrap.
If Trump were 12, Biden might try to.
https://twitter.com/Babygravy9/status/1721616179674984714?t=6NGGyWcOWPHExi0e6wissA&s=19
If you're in any doubt how mainstream the sentiments are that motivated the Nashville shooter to murder 6 elementary-school kids simply for being white, read the comments in response to this picture of a harmless Harvard society. A new Interhamwe is forming in the US.
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https://twitter.com/maxmorton6GDM/status/1721561573380981186?t=6fVYwzQM6Gud-yNtpmM7uw&s=19
The bad guys don't hire John Wick-type assassins anymore, they weaponize the mentally ill and point them towards their enemy.
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So did the Red Guard and SS.
Well, the mentally ill ARE the primary constituency of the democrats.
See SQRLSY as an example.
Whats funny is the governments main consideration is finding the leaker. They opened an investigation.
What really worries is if deranged leftists were to start going out and killing thousands of normal people for being white, imagine the backlash against non-whites!
I never ever thought that I would see it, but to my amazement, it finally happened: someone in the mainstream media finally had the courage to call out Block Insane Yomomma as the true #1 malevolent son of a bitch arsonist who's primarily responsible for the world (and especially the Middle East) being on fire:
https://www.newsweek.com/sorry-obama-we-arent-complicit-its-you-who-has-blood-your-hands-opinion-1841012
This author nails it in every single particular. Sorry you piece of shit mofo, "we" don't blood on our hands, just you. But this is exactly what you wanted, being the anti-American, anti-west, whitey-hatin' Joker that you are.
The author, Liel Leibovitz, is the editor at-large at Tablet Magazine so the stance doesn't surprise me quite as much. I do agree with him on his points. This part struck me in particular, with the parallels one can draw between the 28th and 44th.
It's no coincidence that Obama is the first person since Woodrow Wilson to remain in Washington, D.C., and the 28th president didn't leave only because he had suffered a stroke and wasn't mobile. And it's a very loosely guarded secret that most of the people in the current administration are much more attuned to Obama's wishes than to those of the Octogenarian Commander-in-Chief.
Obama is also trying to play the puppetmaster, with his marionettes running the 46th's show.
We've seen in these very comments people defend the left and their actions due to their words while ignoring the actions. It is pretty insidious and a bad sign of the time. They could piss on these people and tell them it is raining.
Liel Liebovitz is going to go right back to pushing globalist totalitarianism and hatred of whites in a month or two.
Protests surge against Jews, you mean. The protesters are perfectly happy with the war as long as it's Hamas killing Jews. Jews fighting back? That's the problem.
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How cruel of you to mention that fact!
Catching up on the Trump testimony in Court today. What a clown show the judge and prosecution are.
One of the topics they demanded Trump to explain was why his company paid off loans early thinking it was a gotcha.
Apparently Letitia James started the day by implying the company was guilty because the company was too old and too white.
The judge attempted to stop Trump from stating he paid off his loans with zero defaults and on time.
He got reprimanded from bringing up the false evaluation from the judge using tax assessments.
Just a clown like financial set of knowledge by the court.
Uh, I often pay off loans early, if I have the ability. Is that rare? There are plenty of legitimate reasons to do it, and the banks don't seem to mind.
If you have the cash it is the logical thing to do. This apparently confused the NYC prosecutor though.
I mean, the last time I bought a car, the shortest term loan available was longer than what I was looking for, so I just did some math and upped my payments so that the loan would end when I wanted it to. Bank did not complain.
Had a similar arrangement with NelNet for my student loans prior to the pandemic loan payment moratorium. It got to the point where I was so far ahead that my monthly statements would say things like, 'Your next payment is due [future month], [future year].'
https://twitter.com/k9_reaper/status/1721575662656319877?t=IGsiWo5_DQW59dFx_m2sfQ&s=19
You can "state-proof" yourself as much as you like.. but if no one else does - then you're only securing your long term survival in a very different way.
And that's okay.
But understand that if businesses can't survive, government stops repairing things and your neighbor isn't gana make it - you're in the same boat. Regardless of how many water tanks you have and solar panels are on your roof.
"State-proofing" only works if everyone else around you does it.. without everyone else doing it, you simply become a prepper.
A good example of this is the city of Orania. It's an entire city of individuals that have decided to state-proof themselves.. therefore they're all gana do just fine in the long term. Because they've worked together towards one goal - survival as a people. Not as one individual.
And by having an entire community like the above ???? state-proof you are effectively defending an entire area from what comes next in this country - large scale civil unrest.
Without your entire communities involvement, you are only securing yourself.. for a limited period. Imagine being one of 10 houses on the entire block that has solar power? In a large scale outage, you essentially become a flare.
And because your community hasn't state-proofed itself, they aren't on the same level as you when it comes to preparedness and mindset. In your world.. they're basically an invading force and you are now the defender.
Real state-proofing requires your neighbor and their neighbour to get involved. It requires resources that all households in an area have secured towards a common goal.
It's a mini initiative that also needs a strong community safety vibe. Where community members actively get involved in their areas safety. That is true state-proofing.
I fully support state-proofing yourself.. however, if your entire community isn't involved - you are essentially a prepper.
And again, that's okay. Just know the difference and what comes with that.
https://twitter.com/TheWorthyHouse/status/1721629706129191227?t=w0QH4i-7XMxGgCcLrEXsxQ&s=19
Mark it well, America has more political prisoners than East Germany did in 1989. (You can extrapolate from this 1985 LA Times article.) And our Stasi, the FBI, tries to add more, while protecting anyone who attacks whites, Christians, and non-perverts.
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He weakens his claim by not understanding how to normalize data. Not disagreeing but it hurts his argument.
So we'll nitpick American political prisoners vs East German, but not some other figures...
Normalization from two disparate population sizes is not nitpicking. It is required. How many people lived in East Germany. Look it up and get back to me. Will show you how silly the argument is.
I don't really give a fuck how big the populations are, I care that we have a regime taking thousands of political prisoners.
But sarcasmic, chemjeff, and all the other leftist totalitarians thank you for your autistic derailing of the point.
"9/11 wasn't as bad as 10/7 because population ratio!"
Youre using the same method as the left to justify lockdowns because America had more "covid deaths" than countries a tenth of the size. But you do you.
That’s a ridiculous comparison. Normalizing deaths (and other bad outcomes) per 100,000 is appropriate in context of a disease that has a consistent infection rate and presumably follows similar courses when untreated. It’s not necessarily appropriate when it’s a violent event.
Deaths per 1,000 patients in a Cuomo (D) overseen nursing home.
Normalization is always proper when comparing disparate population sizes. Including number of incarcerated per 100k. Thats why all statistical comparisons are normalized.
I mean even baseball analysts defer player comparison to statistical averages instead of counting stats.
If player A has 50 hits at 500 at bats would you say he is a better hitter than player B who has 25 hits at 50 at bats?
And this is a great example of how other conditions play a factor.
1) Did Player A face the same level of competition as Player B? Is Player A facing MLB level pitching while Player B is facing A-Ball pitchers?
2) What kind of hits? Did player A hit 50 homers while Player B hit 25 dribblers past the infield?
3) Where are the games being played? Is player B batting in Coors Field, or a Little League ballpark, while Player A is batting against the Dodgers?
4) Also, I have no idea what Player B is going to do over his next 450 at-bats. Even if it's at the major league level, under similar conditions to Player A, perhaps he's on the extreme fringe of randomness and he will only get 25 more his over the next 450. That's entirely within a realm of probability. It happens all the time in the MLB where you get small-sample size whackiness that normalizes when the sample size of events gets larger and more stable.
No, not necessarily. COVID can kill more people in a country where there's more targets because it's got the potential to spread across the population. Hamas can't just kill 41 times as many Americans just because there's more of us. For one, we're also far more spread out than Israel, so population density is an issue. Secondly we have a second Amendment.
The conditions aren't comparable, so the normalization is meaningless. You have to normalize other factors than just population.
But did they die from Covid or with Covid?
Yes, of course they did.
Pretty good
https://twitter.com/Emmyjewel/status/1721659940576931942?t=STydK_tsAUWuesvj0YnybQ&s=19
Why are you so anti hommus?
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I like how we keep repeating the 'too old talking point. As if age is the issue here. There Joe Biden is, spry and sharp, quick witted, but he sure is old!
https://twitter.com/loganclarkhall/status/1721578395039920475?t=hOwrBZtDIN5MBX9DBjGMXA&s=19
one of the left’s mentally ill circus clowns murdered christian children in broad daylight and the white house honored the killer with a “day of visibility” while celebrities hosted concerts and elevated them to martyrdom status
remember that these are their heroes.
their boos mean nothing. we’ve seen what makes them cheer
This is pure, unadulterated age discrimination! Biden is NOT "too old" and people can become demented at almost any age from a number of different conditions. He may be incompetent to manage his own affairs and is certainly not competent to manage the affairs of a central government of a large, advanced nation, but he was already in that condition when the Democrats elected him President of the United States. The fact that he was a political asset then and is a political embarrassment now is why they're trying to dump him, not because he's "too old!"
For instance, Biden's been mentally unfit for decades. Watch the Clarence Thomas appointment hearings sometime.
https://twitter.com/Trump_History45/status/1721671603585679655?t=8UEjKmg9XRU1y_a3lGzf9g&s=19
Donald Trump’s courtroom sketch artist did a FANTASTIC job drawing him! Spot on!
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https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1721643602776883582?t=HzG69kbQkw6Q_7clHASRng&s=19
State Dept. staffers wrote a "dissent memo" to Biden's policy of unconditionally supporting Israel.
They argue his policy "does not advance, and at worst harms, U.S. interests worldwide." It "suggests a growing loss of confidence" in Biden's approach.
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Fuck Joe Biden
Biden is clearly too old. Trump is too old, too -- he's not completely gone yet like Biden, but could be within 5 years.
Were's Liz?
I suspect a lot of people think Biden and Trump are too old or .. mentally infirm ... for the job. But they will still vote for them. Insanity.
Voting Libertarian was a good idea to over 4 million people in 2016. Then the commie anarchists changed the platform to import terrorists uninspected, and burdened Jo with an arnychist running mate. The Republican White Terror seen its chance and Alabama's own Von Mises Caucasians infested the fake Reno convention. The ousted Secretary, a girl-bullying harridan, was reinstalled, the platform changed again to spit on blacks, hippies, latinos and women, and our vote count now falls at a 27º angle. LAST in travis county (https://bit.ly/3UtPMYi)
He moves like an old man and people conclude his health must be bad. worse yet Kamala Harris will run as VP. Biden needs to kick Kamala to the curb and replace here with Mayor Pete. He needs to get Pelosi to drop out of the race also. Many purple states far from Calif will vote Congressional Red to stop Pelosi from becoming Speaker again and those voters are more likely to vote for Trump. Also, the Wokers will turn much of Centrist America towards Trump and GOP.
Nothing has changed since Jan 22, 2022 when it was clear that Wokeism dooms Biden.
https://bit.ly/3tPKAEg January 21, 2022, CityWatch, Joe Biden: Architect of His Own Demise,
Wasn't JFK 43 when he beat Nixon? Reagan was showing Alzheimer's symptoms at 77--Trump's current age. Right now Grabbers of Pussy are as popular with women voters as "new race" Comstock prohibitionist Herbert Hoover--also a Crash-and-Depression fanatic--in 1932. I'll bet $10 Trump does a George Wallace, this time bleeding votes from the girl-bulliers so that any yellow dog the other looters run is a shoo-in. You want to enslave women, so enjoy a bellyful of Chinese Global Warmunism for Jesus und Fuhrer.
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He's too corrupt, too lazy, too stupid....old is common to everybody but his kind of sub-sub-par folly is his alone.
Flashback to the Rocky Horror Picture show...
Riff Raff: "You're wet!" (Audience: "No shit, Sherlock!")
Janet: "It's raining!" (Audience: "No shit, Sherlock!")
Reason: "Biden's too old!" (Narrator: "Spoiler alert!")
He was an embarrassing idiot even 30 years ago. I’d like to know how many of his voters followed any great stretch of his Guinness-Book sub-sub-par 50 years in DC. Bottom 10 of his law class…. He ranked 506 out of 688 in his class at University of Delaware… a truly stupid man. And the plagiarism , lazy too and often a liar about his past.
Even Jimmy Carter read books, often quoting William James, Biden reads shtall
But he is goddam lazy and stupid, going back to his college days.
He was terrible in undergrad days, then went to law school and was 76th in a class of 85.Sure, he can be cocky and have a comeback but that is because he is stupid. You just say sht. We know he says asshole things and doesn't even hear himself. Two words Made in America.
Ok, faggot.
Lol, I love that Nardz triggered you that much.
So Bleeding Kentucky decided individual rights for women were more important than Teedy Rosenfeld's Race Suicide ravings. It's a punch in the eye for The Right-Wing Honnerable Long Dong and Ginni as role models for girl-bullying Comstockism.
I would flunk you in my English class, you write like a child, and an uneducated child Crude, no citations, no logical development. NOTHING