Why We Can't Have Nice Things: Jones Act Traffic Jam
"It's just a very classic case of everything wrong with Washington."

From his second-floor office overlooking the harbor in Norwalk, Connecticut, Bob Kunkel can see Long Island looming over the horizon to the south.
It's only about 10 miles away, straight across the blue waters of the Long Island Sound. But shipping anything from Connecticut to Long Island—or back again—likely means loading a truck, sending it down Interstate 95 toward New York City, passing through some of the most congested highways in the whole country, and eventually meandering toward the final destination.
Kunkel, president of Alternative Marine Technologies, a design and construction supervision firm, says there ought to be a better way. This part of the country was built because Americans used to ship a lot of cargo by water—and he'd like to start doing that again.
"One Connecticut governor told everybody I-95 was a parking lot," he says. "So what are we doing to fix it? You're not going to build another highway. I mean, the costs are phenomenal."
Unfortunately, the costs to ship anything by water in the United States are phenomenal too, thanks to a federal law from 1920 that severely limits the number of cargo vessels operating here. The Jones Act requires that ships moving goods from one American port to another must be American-built, American-flagged, American-crewed, and registered in the United States.
That's a major stumbling block for Kunkel's plan to ease truck traffic along the I-95 corridor in Connecticut. He'd like to buy four mid-sized cargo vessels—big enough to fit more than 80 tractor-trailers but far smaller than the massive container ships built to cross oceans—to move goods from New Jersey to Long Island, bypassing the bottleneck of New York City.
A boat like that costs about $65 million on the international market, he says. But to get one that complies with the Jones Act will cost $125 million, or more.
"So now the numbers don't work," Kunkel tells Reason. "If we can't compete with trucking or support trucking, then there's no sense building the ship."
In the third episode of Why We Can't Have Nice Things, a new podcast series from Reason, we're looking at just some of the ways that the Jones Act drives up prices, makes it more difficult to ship goods to places like Puerto Rico and Hawaii, and snarls supply chains for American industries.
"It's just a very classic case of everything wrong with Washington," says Colin Grabow, a research fellow at the Cato Institute.
Further reading for this week's episode:
The Case Against the Jones Act, by Colin Grabow and Inu Manak
"How a Century-old Law Contributes to CT Traffic," by Jordan Nathaniel Fenster, CT Insider
"Building a Maritime Highway Across the Long Island Sound," by Ira Breskin, The New York Times
"The Obscure Maritime Law That Ruins Your Commute," by Scott Lincicome, The Atlantic
"Protectionist Policies Set To Inflate the Cost of Rebuilding Hawaii," by Colin Grabow
Written by Eric Boehm; produced and edited by Hunt Beaty; mixing by Ian Keyser; fact-checking by Katherine Sypher
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IIRC Trump made noises about adding The Jones Act to his list of things to deregulate, but members of his own party talked him out of it.
At least Trump listens because he wasn't a broken politician. Now, the biggest problem we have in America is that we believe too much in government. Big government will eventually lead to totalitarianism. This is why civics is so important to understand. Our founders didn't run away from a king so we could anoint another king! They wanted the people to self govern through a representative body that now thinks they are above the people. Unfortunately the people are too dumb to understand that.
You mean like when Biden's cabinet disagreed with Biden simply pulling out of Afghanistan & leaving billions in ordnance behind?
Hawaiian Islands holding on line 2!
They can't be because The Jones Act prevents us from running telephone wires out there.
I'm impressed they can even get a price to buy a compliant ship. I wasn't sure there was an american company still making such things!
they aren't.. because no one will pay $Mn125 to build a ship that should cost $Mn65 so no one is buying them.
BUT... put the Jones Act back ito Davey Jones' Locker whence it came, and plenty of folks will find the $Mn65 to build what will work. Ackshully no one HERE could build them anyway because unions and rigged pricing schedules will keep the cost high. This will continue to be constructed offshore, though. The Jones Act really does need to be dumped. The sooner the better.
I wasn’t sure there was an american company still making such things!
Why wouldn't you be? Stossel told you there were 150 of them in the last article we had on The Jones Act:
"There were once more than 450 American shipyards. Now there are only 150."
Reading and smiling. Northeasterners getting inconvenienced by high and increasing traffic. Northeasterners getting stuck with high and increasing prices. Northeasterners getting high and and getting stuck with more regulations and aggravation and petty crime. Northeasterners voting for (more) Democrats. Sounds like Karma to me!.
There have been plenty of proposals for bridges and/or tunnels across Long Island Sound to avoid interstate traffic around NYC. This included a privately funded/operated tunnel, which Cuomo stopped.
Long Island Sound Link
As I point out below, a privately operated tunnel makes more sense than this. The volume feasibly competes with/replaces existing volume on even a fractional level and the costs at that volume are imaginably on par with existing costs especially ameliorated over the life of the structure. For the above shipping scheme to work, you quickly bump up against very unrealistic ideas like moving 80 semis across the sound at 35 knots all day, every day, uninterrupted for 50 yrs.
This idea really is akin to what I say above, “The Jones Act is the reason we haven’t built telephone wires between CT and Long Island!”
I’m sure not going to waste time listening to a podcast that doesn’t even have a transcript or outline.
The Jones Act was rationalized for national security reasons. Following from the thinking of AT Mahan and Julian Corbett and law of the sea stuff dating back to Grotius. That the Jones Act has utterly failed to achieve that purpose is obvious. That its continued existence without reform is an equally obvious example that it is now about capture and cronyism.
But the Reason/Cato approach – scrap it and pretend there is no rational national security issue involving maritime navigation – is corrupt. And no I’m not talking about the OTHER corrupt approach which is to pretend that a massively expensive ‘standing’ blue-water navy can deal with all maritime issues during wartime so we don’t need the militia version of the navy (merchant marine).
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"...But the Reason/Cato approach – scrap it and pretend there is no rational national security issue involving maritime navigation – is corrupt.."
Chicken little has a new sighting of falling sky.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
It’s only about 10 miles away, … I-95 was a parking lot … big enough to fit more than 80 tractor-trailers
This is about as funny as the Robert Poole’s “Automated vehicles with the exact same footprint will take up fewer square feet of asphalt in total than manually-operated vehicles.” idiocy.
For clarity: 1. The I-95 corridor through CT moves something around 30,000 trucks at every day, and 2) the cumulative length of the 80 trucks is ~1 mi., less than 1/10th of the asserted ferry distance of the sound. Regardless of The Jones Act the assertion is rather overtly saying they’ll save costs and alleviate congestion in a “parking lot” by moving a tiny fraction of the volume slightly faster than a parking lot for more money.
Assuming the no-Jones-Act cost of $65M, the *entire* truck volume at, $1 per truck, would take 5 yrs. to pay off the $65M and that’s assuming this “maritime bypass” requires no maintenance and isn’t itself a rate limiting factor, which they admit it is. So, in order to meet that admittedly insane volume, they would have to perform 445 ferries per day. Assuming they (have to) cut the number of ferries to an still insanely generous 45, they’re going to have to charge $10 up front or push the payoff out 45 yrs. (well past the operating life of the boats) and the assertion of “reducing traffic on the I-95 corridor” in any meaningful way has evaporated. And this is all strictly on the quoted price of the boats.
This isn’t a sincere policy argument, this is, at best, Kramer and Newman bottle recycling scheme being propped up as an policy decision as to why the Jones Act should be repealed (or MI shouldn’t ban out of state recycling).
I don't think your math is quite right. According to Google Maps, the route from Norwalk CT around to Long Island takes something around 2.5 hours and 90 miles. Even assuming some alternative costs, the value of avoiding the cost and delay is probably quite a bit higher than $1 per truck. Time savings alone would suggest an incremental value above $20 per truck, maybe as high as $50 per truck.
I'd also argue that your assumption that "the I-95 corridor through CT moves something around 30,000 trucks at every day" is not a reliable starting point. That count includes traffic going around to Long Island but it also includes a far larger volume just going north or south along I-95.
I don’t think your math is quite right.
What is it about this topic that makes everyone utterly retarded?
I did make a mistake, it's pretty obvious, and it's in AMT's favor, and the numbers still don't work out to any sort of clear W.
But you don't care, because you're here to handwave about "time savings" and play shell games with $50 fares without acknowledging that the number of people who would pay $50 per trip to shave ~30 min. off their commute, sometimes, maybe, isn't enough to literally keep the boat afloat until after the loan is paid off, even without The Jones Act. Otherwise, there would be people paying $75 or $100 (which is getting onto par with air freight) now and the business would just scale.
I’d also argue that your assumption that “the I-95 corridor through CT moves something around 30,000 trucks at every day” is not a reliable starting point. That count includes traffic going around to Long Island but it also includes a far larger volume just going north or south along I-95.
First, I'm not the one who said, "That's a major stumbling block for Kunkel's plan to ease truck traffic along the I-95 corridor in Connecticut."
Second, no fucking shit, if the traffic moving from CT to Long Island only accounts for a tiny fraction of the traffic in the I-95 corridor then the promise of alleviating traffic in the I-95 corridor with a ferry service from CT to Long Island is a prima facie lie. The major stumbling block to easing traffic would rather obviously seem to be the rather literal other 98.5% of traffic (the 30,000 trucks only account for some 15% of total traffic volume) that Kunkel or Boehm isn't even talking about (except to distort the picture).
I’ve made all of those drives. They all sucked.
The one thing I can say in favor of a $50 ferry ride to Long Island is that it would be vastly less expensive than simply what the bridge tolls are on a Class 8 truck. It cost $130 to cross two bridges to get to LI from NJ. The George Washington Bridge in an 18 wheeler was $95, and the Throg’s Neck bridge in the same was $35. Now, the one time I drove a truck to LI, I went across the bridges at 0300 hrs to avoid the traffic, but still. On the way back out, it took me three hours to get from LI to NJ.
The biggest issue with the idea of either one and using LI as a shortcut is that trucks aren't allowed across the Verazanno Narrows bridge.
Honestly, as a New Mexican, the actual problem with the whole area is too many fucking people in too small of a space.
I know that NCW has muted me, but trucks are assuredly allowed on the Verrazzano: https://new.mta.info/agency/bridges-and-tunnels/trucks-commercial-vehicle-information
A decent freight rail system would have solved much of the problem but I don't think that, given current infrastructure and the displacement that would result, it's remotely feasible now.
If a full repeal of the Jones Act would have strategic problems, a partial repeal should be possible. I leave it to shipping experts, but possibly exemptions for size of vessel, or ferries, etc....
The one thing I can say in favor of a $50 ferry ride to Long Island is that it would be vastly less expensive than simply what the bridge tolls are on a Class 8 truck. It cost $130 to cross two bridges to get to LI from NJ. The George Washington Bridge in an 18 wheeler was $95, and the Throg’s Neck bridge in the same was $35.
Huh, you would think a libertarian magazine that was focused on repealing regulation rather than a globalist agenda would've brought that up. Even if only to note that if the Jones Act gets repealed *and* tolls get cut (or, and I know people are gonna think I'm crazy to suggest this, NY taxes the relatively-higher-emissions freighters), AMT's profit margin disappears.
It's almost like I've said before that Reason tends to ignore equal or greater domestic oppression and, instead, runs with the story about poor brown people that dovetails in with Koch's agenda.
I've got not problem gutting The Jones Act but, again, there were laws before The Jones Act that will come into effect if you don't repeal them as well *and* compared to the vetoes of private tunnels, vetoes private pipelines, regional corruption, and even backwards regional nativism that Reason would nominally oppose if the native's skin color were different, The Jones Act is a drop in the bucket.
Honestly, as a New Mexican, the actual problem with the whole area is too many fucking people in too small of a space.
Do you mean NY/CT or everywhere Reason is advocating repealing the Jones Act in order to get more foreign ships staffed by foreigners to support the natives?
You know, for someone talking about the topic making people "utterly retarded", maybe you should check your own premises. The article above is not about an improved ferry but about cargo transport. The time savings isn't an incremental "30 min off a commute" but the bulk savings of never having to put the cargo container on a truck bed at all and avoiding the entire trip.
I'm not trying to defend this plan as a good idea but your criticisms of it are unhinged.
I know the logic is difficult for some people to follow, but you do realize that if we aren't talking about ferrying between ports (despite the article being about ferrying between ports) *and* "never put the cargo on a truck bed at all" then the Jones Act pretty clearly doesn't apply, right?
I’m not trying to defend this plan as a good idea but your criticisms of it are unhinged.
The problem isn't that my criticisms are unhinged, the problem is that you don't want to discuss the larger picture. Nazi-Chipping Warlock exceedingly capably rebutted my criticism. The problem (for you, Reason, or both) is, the rebuttal demonstrates that the Jones Act isn't the only villain and people like you and Reason don't want to talk about that because then it becomes very obvious that you aren't about reducing the size of the leviathan, you're about finding the next group of bodies to feed it.
And I thought the point of the article was broader than the feasibility of a Connecticut to New York cargo ferry!
Meant for mad.casual….
I admittedly don't point this out every article, but the broader point of all these articles is to get more foreign assets and bodies to support Reason's preferred group of natives and businesses.
They, rather overtly, ignore vetoed oil pipelines, vetoed tunnel proposals, all manner of local control and corruption that prevents even essential goods from moving even one inch off of any local port or runway and act like an exceedingly niche law that's simultaneously strangling and empowering a crushing monopoly of a centuries-old industry, and that just happens to fit in with their benefactor's agenda, is solely responsible for all of it.
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All this protectionism needs to go away.
Just ridiculous.
You're analysis merrily skips over the very ROOT problem.
"A boat like that costs about $65 million on the international market, he says. But to get one that complies with the Jones Act will cost $125 million, or more."
WHY? Why would anything cost more locally than half way across the world? Could it possibly be the 50%+ "armed-theft" of the government for their Nazi-Empire?
YES. Also, cheap child slave like labor is not available locally.
WHY? Why would anything cost more locally than half way across the world?
Because of a government-created oligopoly.
WHY? Why would anything cost more locally than half way across the world?
Because wages are lower elsewhere and because shipping is so cheap.
That's a good thing, because you live in a place where wages are high so most any job you'll be making money hand over fist. As I've heard one immigrant describe it, America is the only place where you can work for an hour doing some menial job and make enough money to eat for a week. And with all that money you can enjoy the fruits of inexpensive goods shipped to your doorstep.
Why is the labor cheaper elsewhere?
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Perhaps it's exactly the reason I proposed.
Curiously what is the US citizen going to be working-on for those baffling good wages when everything is being imported and the USA is entirely a dependant (liability) of another nation? Is the goal here to see just how pathetic the USA can become?
How is it that a law in effect for 103 years is suddenly the death knell for American shipping? That law was in effect through the golden years of the 20th century and somehow magically didn't turn us into a 3rd world craphole. Could it be that we lost our way as a nation and just can't do things as well as our fathers and grandfathers did?
In the USSD (United States Socialist Democracy) every incompetence is paid for through 'armed-theft' of the competent.
Subsidizing incompetence and penalizing competency.
It's amazing the left can't seem to think past their criminalistic greed as to what the results of that will be.
The "golden years" of the 20th century were mainly brought about by the United State's relative stability while Europe and east Asia rebuilt from WW2 and Africa, South America, and south Asia were rocked with political turmoil. Unless your contention is that we need to blast the rest of the world back into the stone age, that period has largely passed (though Europe looks like it might be trying to tear itself apart again and who knows what will happen when the Chinese house of cards implodes).
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So, article aside, where is the viable political party or candidate, at any level, with a firm policy position of repealing The Jones Act? Or is this another of the libertarian policy positions, somewhere in the pile of infeasible, impossible, or inconsequential policy positions between raw milk and returning to the gold standard, that's just another wish beyond wish to toss into the wind?
To me more clear and pointed: If Trump ran on a platform of repealing The Jones Act, would he win with the Reason staff or would it just be another round of 'reluctantly oppose'? Assuming a principled anti-Jones Act stance, how deep does the art of dealing go? If it were an EO indefinitely suspending the Jones Act for HI, PR, and Guam in exchange for ACA or DACA repeal is Reason still on board? Because, make no mistake about it, repealing the Jones Act, in whole or in part, is going to require Trump or some similarly uncouth, erratic, aggrandizing, outsider to get done and, AFAICT, Reason reluctantly supported the admin that openly supported the Jones Act, the same party that originally enacted the Jones Act.
I wonder if substituting barges for cargo ships and using tugboats to pull them across the Sound would circumvent the Jones Act.
A tug can handle multiple barges at a time.
Careful now, you're pulling on a narrative loose end that Reason doesn't want you to tug.
There's some 40,000+ American-built, American-staffed boats, including tugs and barges in the American "brown water" fleet. All of them completely capable of performing this job function without violating The Jones Act. For some reason, none of them willing to do it for, presumably, $65-120M per boat, over the next however many years.
Fun Fact: When Trump granted a 10-day waiver in the wake of Hurricane Maria, cargo piled up at the Port of San Juan (and elsewhere including the airport) because infrastructure on the island had been disrupted to the point that it couldn't be distributed. Know how many ships *could've* made specifically under the waiver? 12. Know how many ships did? 0. Of the over 40 boats that could've ported under the waivers for Harvey, Maria, *and* Irma? 9. For reference: the Port of San Juan has 16 piers, 8 for shipping 8 for passenger ships. Guess how, despite the waivers, all the cargo piling up at the port(s and the airport) got there?
There are all kinds of Islands up and down the coast of Mexico, C. and S. America that could be served by American boats too. America, obviously, wouldn't (mostly) be as close as their native ports and shipyards, but we'd be closer than China or Europe.
But, again, Reason wants to play retard and act like the US is a peninsula/isthmus/archipelago, that we're the only country in the world with cabotage (or immigration) rules, that it's just as fast and easy to ship oil from (e.g.) Russia to PR as it is to ship it from TX to PR, *and* conflate Russian boats shipping oil from TX to PR with Russian boats shipping Russian oil from RU to PR and that the only reason none of that is true is because of The Jones Act.
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Section 27 of the Merchant Marine Act of 1920, to give the Jones Act its proper name, requires American waterborne domestic trade to be carried by vessels built, owned, operated and flagged in America. This in effect prohibits foreign involvement in transport between any two American ports. The law’s origin, as with many protectionist measures, lies in concerns over national defense. America’s dependence on foreign ships to transport soldiers and supplies to Europe in the first world war led to concerns that the country might be vulnerable in future conflicts. The Jones Act was intended to subsidize the American merchant navy, providing vessels and infrastructure which the armed forces could use in a time of war. - the-economist-explain
With war monger Biden in office we better keep the Jones act enforce.